STATE OF WEST VIRGINIA, Plaintiff Below, Respondent v. JEREMY S., Defendant Below, Petitioner
No. 19-0006
IN THE SUPREME COURT OF APPEALS OF WEST VIRGINIA
June 8, 2020
CHIEF JUSTICE ARMSTEAD delivered the Opinion of the Court.
January 2020 Term. Appeal from the Circuit Court of Calhoun County. The Honorable R. Craig Tatterson, Judge. Case No. 14-F-29.
AFFIRMED
Submitted: March 24, 2020
Filed: June 8, 2020
Jeremy B. Cooper, Esq.
Blackwater Law PLLC
Kingwood, West Virginia
Counsel for Petitioner
Patrick Morrisey, Esq.
Attorney General
Lindsay S. See, Esq.
Solicitor General
Caleb A. Ellis, Esq.
Assistant Attorney General
Charleston, West Virginia
Counsel for Respondent
SYLLABUS BY THE COURT
- When a circuit court polls a jury pursuant to
Rule 31(d) of the West Virginia Rules of Criminal Procedure , it is within the circuit court‘s sound discretion to evaluate the jurors’ responses and determine whether clarifying questions should be asked of the jurors. - When a circuit court polls a jury pursuant to
Rule 31(d) of the West Virginia Rules of Criminal Procedure , and appropriate, neutral questions reveal that a juror is confused about a matter, feels coerced to join the majority‘s verdict, or is otherwise in need of further instruction, the circuit court may respond in a very limited manner with appropriate, non-coercive, neutral statements that address the concern.
Armstead, Chief Justice:
Petitioner, Jeremy S.,1 was indicted for incest, sexual assault in the third degree, and
Based on the record before us, the arguments of the parties, and the applicable law, we find no error; therefore, we affirm.
I. FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND
On August 13, 2013, Corporal J.B. Hunt of the West Virginia State Police received a Child Protective Services (“CPS“) referral about Petitioner‘s fourteen-year-old daughter. Cpl. Hunt and two CPS workers interviewed the daughter, who reported several instances of sexual abuse by Petitioner. The last instance had happened just two days before, and the daughter said that it happened on or under a sleeping bag and a blanket, both of which she described.2 Cpl. Hunt obtained a warrant that same day and searched Petitioner‘s house. He recovered a sleeping bag and a blanket and later delivered them to the West Virginia State Police Forensic Laboratory (the “State Police Lab“) for testing. Cpl. Hunt arrested Petitioner on September 2, 2013.
A Calhoun County grand jury indicted Petitioner on May 6, 2014. The indictment charged Petitioner with eight counts, each, of (a) incest, (b) sexual assault in the third degree, and (c) sexual abuse by a parent, guardian, custodian or person in a position of trust to a child for a total of twenty-four counts. Petitioner appeared for arraignment on May 19, 2014, and requested discovery.3 Petitioner (by counsel) advised that he wished to be tried in the same term, so a pretrial hearing was set for June 30, 2014. Trial was set for July 15, 2014.
On June 30, 2014, the State moved to continue the trial because the State had yet to receive the police report. Petitioner objected, and the circuit court denied the State‘s motion to continue, observing that “[t]he State [wa]s at risk of having cases dismissed[.]” Trial remained set for July 15, 2014.
Three days later, on July 3, 2014, the State provided its first discovery response. This response was supplemented on July 7, 2014, and again on July 9, 2014. The latter supplement included a report from the State Police Lab dated June 25, 2014, which the prosecutor seems to have received by fax on July 8, 2014. According to the report, the State Police Lab found semen and hairs on the blanket. No relevant material was found on the sleeping bag. The report advised that reference specimens should be collected from relevant persons if the State wished to conduct further testing.
The State moved to continue the trial a second time on July 10, 2014. According to the motion, neither Cpl. Hunt nor CPS Worker Loretta Smith, who had interviewed the victim, was available for trial on July 15, 2014. The trooper was scheduled to be on vacation then. The CPS worker had already left the state on her scheduled vacation and would not be home in time to appear.
On July 12, 2014, Petitioner moved to suppress the State‘s evidence and dismiss the case with prejudice. Petitioner argued that the State‘s discovery responses were untimely and that he was “substantially prejudiced” by them.
Instead of trying the case on July 15, 2014, the court heard the parties’ motions. The court denied Petitioner‘s motion to dismiss and granted the State‘s motion to continue, finding that the State had shown good cause. Trial was rescheduled for September 30, 2014.
The September 30, 2014 trial was continued several times, and on July 29, 2016, Petitioner moved in limine to exclude the State‘s DNA evidence. Petitioner claimed that the State‘s DNA analysis was unreliable and could not establish when, where, or how the DNA came to be on the blanket. Accordingly, Petitioner asserted that the probative value of the State‘s DNA evidence was substantially outweighed by the danger of unfairly prejudicing Petitioner, confusing the issues, and misleading the jury.4
Petitioner‘s case was eventually set for trial on March 14, 2017, but the circuit court was unable to proceed for lack of jurors. Accordingly, the court heard testimony on Petitioner‘s motion in limine to exclude the State‘s DNA evidence.5 Petitioner called Cpl. Hunt to testify about the search for and seizure of the blanket. Petitioner then called his own expert to testify (a) that DNA analysis could not say when or how the DNA was deposited and (b) that the DNA on the blanket could have come from other objects in the laundry room. After hearing Petitioner‘s evidence, however, the circuit court did not rule on his motion.
The court withheld its ruling until November 28, 2017, on the morning of the first day of Petitioner‘s first trial.6 At that point, the circuit court denied the motion to exclude the State‘s DNA evidence, stating that “the jury can look at that and put whatever weight the jury deems appropriate on that evidence.” As a result, the jury heard testimony regarding the blanket and the State‘s DNA analysis at both trials. Jurors also heard testimony from Petitioner‘s expert witness.
When the State rested during Petitioner‘s first trial, Petitioner moved for acquittal on all counts. The State agreed that there was no evidence on 15 of the 24 counts, so those counts were dismissed, and the case was submitted to the jury on the remaining nine counts.7 After several hours of deliberation, the jury advised by note that it could not reach a unanimous decision. In response, the court called the jury back to the courtroom and exhorted jurors to keep an open mind and to attempt to reach a unanimous verdict, if possible, without sacrificing their individual convictions.8 Then the court instructed the jury to try again for another half hour.
An hour later, the jury submitted a note requesting “a better explanation” of the instruction that they were to acquit if the evidence permitted opposing conclusions of both guilt and innocence. The court replied with a handwritten note—approved by both counsel—stating, “If the jury feels two conclusions (guilty and not guilty) are possible
The jury resumed deliberations and minutes later reached a verdict of not guilty on all remaining counts. After the verdict was read, the following colloquy occurred:
THE COURT: . . . .
So says each member of the jury, is that your verdict?
(Affirmative responses.)
THE COURT: Is there a request to poll the jury?
[THE PROSECUTOR]: Yes, Judge.
. . . .
THE COURT: You heard the verdict which your foreman signed and which the clerk read. When your name is called, you will answer and signify whether the verdict was then and is now your own true verdict.
THE CLERK: Marisha Collins, is that your verdict?
JUROR: I guess it has to be by the law.
THE COURT: Go through the list.
. . . .
[THE CLERK/THE COURT]: [Juror], is that your verdict?
[TEN JURORS]: Yes
THE CLERK: Ryan Slider, is that your verdict?
JUROR: By law, I guess.
THE COURT: Ms. Collins, you expressed some hesitation as to whether or not that was your verdict. There were several questions9 back to me to further explain the law. After you heard my—what I‘m going to say are written explanations as to the law, was—is that your verdict?
JUROR: If it has to be.
THE COURT: It doesn‘t have to be.
JUROR: Then no.
THE COURT: Okay. Mr. Slider, if I were to ask you the same question I had just asked Ms. Collins, you there were several questions made during the course of deliberations. I submitted handwritten answers. Is your verdict a verdict of not guilty on all charges?
JUROR: No, Sir.
(Footnote added.)
After hearing this, the court sent the jury out to determine whether there was any point in allowing more time to deliberate on their verdict. After a brief recess, the jury advised the court that their minds were made up; they were deadlocked. The court asked counsel, “Is there a motion? Or do you want the Court to make a finding on its own?” Petitioner‘s attorney moved for a mistrial, which was granted.
Petitioner‘s second trial began on August 14, 2018. He was tried on nine counts, in accordance with the evidence submitted at the first trial and the court‘s “judgment of acquittal on the other [15] counts.” During voir dire, a juror indicated that she knew the victim and the two CPS workers and that she had a business or social relationship with the prosecutor. She maintained, however, that these relationships would not affect her ability to be fair.
Subsequently, the court conducted an individual voir dire of the same juror. At that time, the juror said that she knew the victim from Civil Air Patrol. The juror was deputy commander for cadets, and the victim had been a cadet. The juror thought that she had known the victim since 2014, but they “really [had not] had contact in the past couple of years.” As for CPS Worker Smith, the juror said that she knew her “around town[,]” but they did not spend time together.10 Finally, the juror knew the prosecutor because the juror had taught developmental guidance at the prosecutor‘s school when the prosecutor was in fifth grade. The juror had also participated in 4-H activities (such as camp) with the prosecutor and her parents. The juror guessed that she knew the prosecutor “pretty well,” but she thought that she could fairly assess the evidence. Petitioner‘s attorney moved to
strike the juror for cause, but the court refused to do so, citing the juror‘s “body language and how she answered.”
II. STANDARD OF REVIEW
Petitioner assigns five errors to the proceedings below. First, Petitioner contends that he was acquitted at his first trial and that the circuit court manufactured a hung jury—and thus a mistrial—by polling the jurors in an improper manner. Yet, as Petitioner concedes, his counsel failed to object when the circuit court was polling the jury. Counsel‘s failure to object forecloses appellate review of this issue, unless the circuit court‘s alleged error was plain error.11 State v. Miller, 194 W. Va. 3, 17, 459 S.E.2d 114, 128 (1995). Plain error is error that is plain, that affects substantial rights, and that seriously affects the fairness, integrity, or public reputation of the judicial proceedings. Syl. Pt. 7, Miller, 194 W. Va. 3, 459 S.E.2d 114.
Petitioner also contends (a) that his first trial was wrongly continued over his objection, (b) that both trials were tainted by irrelevant, non-probative, and prejudicial evidence, and (c) that his second trial was tainted by a biased juror. When we review circuit court rulings on motions to continue, on evidentiary matters, or on whether to excuse jurors for bias or prejudice, we review the circuit court‘s rulings for abuse of discretion. Syl. Pt. 2, State v. Bush, 163 W. Va. 168, 255 S.E.2d 539 (1979) (motion to continue); Syl. Pt. 4, State v. Rodoussakis, 204 W. Va. 58, 511 S.E.2d 469 (1998) (evidentiary rulings); and O‘Dell v. Miller, 211 W. Va. 285, 288, 565 S.E.2d 407, 410 (2002) (juror bias or prejudice).
Finally, Petitioner asserts that two or more errors accumulated to his prejudice. When a petitioner alleges cumulative error, we inquire whether “the record . . . shows that the cumulative effect of numerous errors committed during the trial prevented the defendant from receiving a fair trial, . . . even though any one of such errors standing alone would be harmless error.” Syl. Pt. 5, in part, State v. Smith, 156 W. Va. 385, 193 S.E.2d 550 (1972). However, we apply this doctrine “sparingly” and only where the errors are apparent from the record.” State v. Peterson, 239 W. Va. 21, 35, 799 S.E.2d 98, 112 (2017) (quoting Tennant v. Marion Health Care Found., Inc., 194 W. Va. 97, 118, 459 S.E.2d 374, 395 (1995)). With these standards of review in mind, we will consider Petitioner‘s assignments of error.
III. ANALYSIS
As noted above, Petitioner raises five assignments of error. We will address each one in turn.
A. First Trial—Acquittal
Petitioner argues that his conviction should be reversed because his first trial resulted in an acquittal. According to Petitioner, the circuit court thwarted his acquittal by polling the jury in an improper manner.
The West Virginia Rules of Criminal Procedure require a circuit court to poll the jury whenever a party requests it or the court deems it appropriate.
During polling, however, it is not always clear whether a juror agrees (or disagrees) with the verdict. Sometimes a juror‘s candid response to, “Is that your verdict?” creates ambiguity. Accordingly, we have held “that appropriate neutral questions may be
asked of the juror to clarify any apparent confusion, provided the questions are not coercive.” Syl. Pt. 2, in part, Tennant, 173 W. Va. 627, 319 S.E.2d 395. Such questions are appropriate “when a juror indicates in a poll that he either disagrees with the verdict or expresses reservations about it[.]” Id. Tennant authorizes, however, “only a very limited inquiry” in order “to prevent the possibility of coercing the juror to conform to the verdict.” Id. at 630, 319 S.E.2d at 399. If, after limited, neutral, and non-coercive questioning, the juror continues to disagree with, or have reservations about, the verdict, “the trial court must either direct the jury to retire for further deliberations or discharge the jury.” Id. at 628, 319 S.E.2d at 396, syl. pt. 2, in part.12
In Petitioner‘s case, the State asked the circuit court to poll the jury, and ten out of twelve jurors answered “Yes” to the finding of not guilty without qualification or any apparent hesitation. Yet two jurors offered qualified responses—“I guess it has to be by the law” and “By law, I guess“—that evidently suggested to the circuit court that these jurors may have disagreed with the verdict or had reservations about it. Petitioner argues that these responses were not sufficiently equivocal to prompt further inquiry, and he refers us to a case in which the District of Columbia Court of Appeals held that a “juror‘s response
[(“Guilty, I guess“)], in context, [did] not demonstrate uncertainty about appellant‘s guilt[.]” Johnson v. United States, 470 A.2d 756, 759 (D.C. App. 1983).
Yet Petitioner ignores Johnson‘s reason for reaching this conclusion: “The trial court is in a much better position to evaluate these factors than . . . an appellate tribunal.” Id. at 760. As the Johnson court observed, “Guilty, I guess” can be understood several different ways,13 and “[t]o determine which of these meanings should be ascribed . . . , one must consider the juror‘s demeanor and the tone and pattern of his speech.” Id. Because of this, “the trial judge possesses ‘a measure of discretion’ in evaluating such responses, and ‘the reasonable exercise of this discretion should be accorded proper deference by a reviewing court.‘” Id. (quoting United States v. Brooks, 420 F.2d 1350, 1353 (D.C. Cir. 1969)). In Johnson, the fact that the trial court allowed the jury poll to continue, and the fact that defense counsel failed to object, showed that the juror‘s response of “Guilty, I guess” was unequivocal and that the trial court judge acted reasonably in interpreting the response that way. Johnson, 470 A.2d at 760.
To return to Petitioner‘s case, we were not present to hear or observe the jurors’ responses, and Petitioner, himself, argues that their responses were susceptible to
Petitioner also finds fault with the circuit court‘s statement—“It doesn‘t have to be“—contending that it “amounted to abetting jury nullification” and was “wholly improper[.]” We note that, in Tennant, we authorized a circuit court to ask “appropriate neutral questions . . . to clarify any apparent confusion, provided the questions are not coercive.” Syl. Pt. 2, in part, Tennant, 173 W. Va. 627, 319 S.E.2d 395 (emphasis added). This language from Tennant might be taken to suggest that, in seeking to “clarify any
apparent confusion,” a circuit court must confine itself to asking questions. We reject that understanding of Tennant.
As Tennant explains, “the chief purpose behind an individual poll of jurors is to enable a juror to express any reservation he may have about the verdict free from the pressure of his fellow jurors.” Id. at 630, 319 S.E.2d at 399. To advance this purpose, we allow circuit courts to pose “appropriate neutral questions . . . to clarify any apparent confusion[.]” Id. at 628, 319 S.E.2d at 396, syl. pt. 2, in part (emphasis added). If a circuit court‘s appropriate, neutral questions reveal, for example, that a juror is confused about a matter or feels coerced to join the majority‘s verdict, we fail to see how a circuit court can correct the juror‘s confusion, or assure the juror of his or her freedom to decide, without making appropriate, neutral statements in response. We hold, therefore, that when a circuit court polls a jury pursuant to
In this case, the circuit court asked a juror if her verdict was to acquit Petitioner. When she replied, “If it has to be[,]” the circuit court responded, “It doesn‘t have to be[,]” and the juror answered, “Then no.” This exchange, and the circuit court‘s statement in particular, is subject to interpretation. According to Petitioner, the circuit court‘s statement “explicitly invited [the jurors] to change their verdicts[.]” The State, by contrast, argues that this statement assured the juror that she need not go along with the majority. Either way, there was nothing coercive about the circuit court‘s statement. On the contrary, the circuit court‘s statement seems to have freed the juror to express a verdict that accorded with her views pursuant
Accordingly, the circuit court‘s statement was neutral and appropriate.16 Therefore, we refuse to reverse his conviction based on the circuit court‘s manner of polling the jury.
B. First Trial—Continuance
Petitioner argues next that the circuit court erred when it continued his first trial past the first term of court,17 over his objection. According to Petitioner, “the sole basis for the continuance was to spare the State the rightful consequences of its dilatory discovery and failure to prepare.” Petitioner‘s characterization captures the State‘s predicament in June and July 2014. The State had failed to provide discovery in a timely manner,18 and it had failed to secure two of its witnesses (Cpl. Hunt and CPS Worker Smith) for trial.
The West Virginia Code provides that, “[w]hen an indictment is found in any county, against a person for a felony or misdemeanor, the accused . . shall, unless good cause be shown for a continuance, be tried at the same term.”
As of June 30, 2014, when the State first moved to continue the trial, the State had yet to receive the police report, and the State‘s first expert report from the State Police Lab had only just been issued on June 25, 2014.19 When this motion to continue was denied, the State provided its first discovery response days later, and it supplemented this response twice in the coming days. This Court has previously held that a continuance is not improper where, “there is nothing to indicate that the State intentionally or oppressively sought to delay the trial[,] nor is there a showing that the delay [of the trial] caused any substantial prejudice to the petitioner.” State v. McCartney, 228 W. Va. 315, 324, 719 S.E.2d 785, 794 (2011). Likewise, we do not believe that the State acted “intentionally or oppressively” in this case or that Petitioner was caused any substantial prejudice as a result of the delay.
Moreover, because the State‘s delay in providing the requested discovery was not intentional or oppressive, the circuit court correctly determined that a continuance was the proper remedy to address such delay. “Our cases and the West Virginia Rules of Evidence have declared an implicit preference for a continuance when there has been a discovery violation[,]” and we have held that Petitioner‘s preferred remedy of “dismissal
“derelict.” Under the circumstances, continuing Petitioner‘s case caused no “great . . . disruption in the trial process” and, by affording Petitioner additional time to prepare for trial, fully dissipated any arguable prejudice caused by the State‘s untimely disclosure.20 Id. Accordingly, we find no error in the circuit court‘s decision to continue Petitioner‘s trial, and we refuse to reverse his conviction based on the circuit court‘s reasonable exercise of discretion.
C. First and Second Trials—Improper Evidence
Petitioner also challenges the circuit court‘s decision to admit the State‘s DNA evidence, which was extracted from a blanket found in Petitioner‘s laundry room. According to Petitioner, the State‘s DNA evidence was “wholly irrelevant, non-probative, and prejudicial” because “there was no way to distinguish between DNA that could have had a nexus to the alleged crimes, and DNA that was wholly explainable as a natural result of the Petitioner having contact with his own articles in his own home.” Petitioner alleges that the circuit court made “no findings that the DNA evidence was relevant, nor that it was substantially more probative than prejudicial under Rules 401 and 403 of the Rules of Evidence.”
without the evidence[.]”
jury,” or any other outcome of concern under
In the end, we agree with the State that the defect that Petitioner ascribes to the State‘s DNA evidence—that it did not necessarily exclude his innocence—is true of many forms of circumstantial evidence. Yet for nearly twenty-five years, we have rejected a rule that “circumstantial evidence will not support a guilty verdict unless the fact of guilt is proved to the exclusion of every reasonable hypothesis of innocence[.]” Id. at 668, 461 S.E.2d at 174 (quoting and overruling State v. Noe, 160 W.Va. 10, 15, 230 S.E.2d 826, 829–30 (1976)) (alteration removed). Instead, we have recognized that
[c]ircumstantial evidence . . . is intrinsically no different from testimonial evidence. Admittedly, circumstantial evidence may in some case[s] point to a wholly incorrect result. Yet this is equally true of testimonial evidence. In both
instances, a jury is asked to weigh the chances that the evidence correctly points to guilt against the possibility of inaccuracy or ambiguous inference. In both, the jury must use its experience with people and events in weighing the probabilities. If the jury is convinced beyond a reasonable doubt, we can require no more.
Guthrie, 194 W. Va. at 668, 461 S.E.2d at 174 (quoting Holland v. United States, 348 U.S. 121, 140, 75 S. Ct. 127, 137–38, 99 L. Ed. 150, 166 (1954)) (alteration to conform quotation to original). For these reasons, we find no error in the circuit court‘s decision to allow the jury to hear the State‘s DNA evidence, and we refuse to reverse Petitioner‘s conviction based on the circuit court‘s reasonable exercise of discretion in this matter.
D. Second Trial—Biased Juror
Petitioner finds additional fault with the circuit court‘s decision, at his second trial, to seat a juror who admitted to knowing the victim and the prosecutor.23 According to Petitioner, “it was an abuse of the Circuit Court‘s discretion to leave on [the jury] a juror who had so many indicia of connections to the case,” especially a juror who formerly held a position of “heightened trust” with respect to the victim and the prosecutor.
Petitioner was entitled to a fair trial, and “[a] fair trial . . . requires a fair and impartial jury.” State v. Peacher, 167 W. Va. 540, 552, 280 S.E.2d 559, 569 (1981). “[A] trial court must grant a challenge for cause [and remove a juror] if [the] prospective juror‘s
actual prejudice or bias is shown” during voir dire. State v. Miller, 197 W. Va. 588, 605, 476 S.E.2d 535, 552 (1996). “Actual bias can be shown either by a juror‘s own admission of bias or by proof of specific facts which show the juror has such prejudice or connection with the parties at trial that bias is presumed.” Syl. Pt. 5, Miller, 197 W. Va. at 593, 476 S.E.2d at 540. “Once a prospective juror has made a clear statement during voir dire reflecting or indicating the presence of a disqualifying prejudice or bias, the prospective juror is disqualified as a matter of law and cannot be rehabilitated by subsequent questioning, later retractions, or promises to be fair.” Syl. Pt. 5, O‘Dell v. Miller, 211 W. Va. 285, 565 S.E.2d 407 (2002).
Yet, in Petitioner‘s case, the juror neither confessed bias nor admitted to facts that showed she was presumptively biased. The juror said that she knew the victim from Civil Air Patrol, where the juror was deputy commander and the victim had been a cadet, but the juror had not been in contact with the victim for a “couple of years.” The juror‘s connection to the prosecutor was even more remote. The juror knew the prosecutor because the juror taught at the same school the prosecutor attended when the prosecutor was in fifth grade and because the juror shared
The circuit court‘s credibility determination carries substantial weight with us. Miller, 197 W. Va. at 606, 476 S.E.2d at 553. We have said that “the challenging party bears the burden of persuading the trial court that the juror is partial and subject to being excused for cause.” Id. Only “a clear and definite impression that a prospective juror would have been unable faithfully and impartially to apply the law” will lead us to intervene on appeal. Id. As we said in Miller, Petitioner has met “neither the burden of production nor the burden of persuasion[,]” and we decline to intervene in this matter.24 Id. Accordingly, we find no error in the circuit court‘s refusal to dismiss the challenged juror, and we refuse to reverse Petitioner‘s conviction based on the circuit court‘s reasonable exercise of discretion in this matter.
E. Cumulative Error
Finally, Petitioner contends that the circuit court‘s several alleged errors accumulated to his prejudice. We have held that, “[w]here the record of a criminal trial shows that the cumulative effect of numerous errors committed during the trial prevented the defendant from receiving a fair trial, his conviction should be set aside, even though any one of such errors standing alone would be harmless error.” Syl. Pt. 5, State v. Smith, 156 W. Va. 385, 193 S.E.2d 550 (1972). The threshold standard is “numerous errors committed during” a single trial. Id. Petitioner had two trials and has yet to show that the circuit court committed a single error in either trial, whether harmless or otherwise. Accordingly, Petitioner has no basis for relief, and we refuse to reverse his conviction on the alleged ground of cumulative error.
IV. CONCLUSION
For all of the foregoing reasons, we affirm Petitioner‘s conviction and the circuit court‘s November 30, 2018 amended sentencing order.
Affirmed.
Notes
At this point, I am probably not in a real good position to analyze the probative value of the evidence, either way it turns out. Obviously, if it‘s not Mr. [S.‘s], it might be deemed to be exculpatory evidence. It may not have a high degree of probative value, I don‘t know. But this is something the State has the burden of going forward here, and if the State wants to go this route, I think the State is entitled to secure samples and swabs.
