State v. PiresState v. Pires
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Paul J. Narducci, senior assistant state‘s attorney, with whom was John P. Gravalec-Pannone, former senior assistant state‘s attorney, and, on the brief, was Michael L. Regan, state‘s attorney, for the appellee (state).
Opinion
NORCOTT, J. This certified appeal presents us with another opportunity to determine whether, pursuant to Faretta v. California, 422 U.S. 806, 95 S. Ct. 2525, 45 L. Ed. 2d 562 (1975), statements made by a defendant indicating dissatisfaction with the performance of his appointed counsel developed into a clear and unequivocal request invoking the right to self-representation under the
The record and the Appellate Court‘s opinion reveal the following relevant facts and procedural history. The defendant, along with Michael D. Pires, Jr., and Tamir Dixon, were charged with murder in violation of
Prior to the commencement of trial, the defendant made several requests to the court to remove defense counsel, [S]pecial [P]ublic [D]efender Linda Sullivan, from the case. On May 25, 2005, the defendant requested that the court, Clifford, J., remove Sullivan from the case. The court found no cause to do so. Similar exchanges occurred on October 12, 2005, and November 15, 2005, in appearances before [the court, Handy, J.] On December 20, 2005, the defendant rеnewed his request, and [Judge Handy]4 also denied the request. When the defendant mentioned his constitutional rights, the court informed him that as an indigent defendant, he had the right to counsel but not the right to choose his own counsel. After a recess granted by the court so that the defendant could discuss strategy with
The next time the defendant appeared before the court, in March, 2006, Sullivan filed a motion to withdraw as counsel, and attorneys Kevin Barrs and Bruce Sturman asked to be appointed due to the conflict between Sullivan and the defendant. The court [Handy, J.] granted the motion to withdraw and appointed Barrs and Sturman with the proviso that it did not want the defendant to continue requesting a new attorney at every hearing. The defendant did not make another request to replace counsel until August 2, 2006, at the start of trial, when he filed a pro se motion to dismiss counsel. At a hearing on August 3, 2006, the defendant withdrew that motion. The defendant filed another motion at the time of sentencing, titled motion to dismiss that the court [Schimelman, J.] treated as a motion to dismiss counsel, and the court denied the mоtion. (Footnote added.) Id., 733.
The defendant appealed from the judgment of conviction to the Appellate Court, contending, inter alia,6 that he was denied the right to self-representation because the court failed to canvass him pursuant to the federal and state constitutions and
With respect to the December 20 hearing, the Appellate Court concluded that any pretrial request by the defendant to represent himself was not clear and unequivocal such that it would trigger the trial court‘s responsibility to engage in an inquiry under
The Appellate Court then concluded that the defendant‘s comments at the sentencing hearing did not constitute a clear and unequivocal request to proceed with self-representation. Id., 742. The Appellate Court rejected the defendant‘s argument that his request was one for self-representation because the court stated that granting his request to dismiss counsel would result in either him proceeding pro se or in delaying the hearing. Such an acknowledgement, however, simply stated the possible outcomes of a dismissal of counsel at that point in time. At no time was the issue of self-representation ever raised by the defendant in either the motion or in his statements to the court.9 (Emphasis omitted.) Id., 742–43. Accordingly, the Appellate Court rendered judgment affirming the defendant‘s conviction.10 Id., 750. This certified appeal followed. See footnote 1 of this opinion.
On appeal, the defendant contends that (1) he clearly and unequivocally invoked his unqualified11 right to self-representation through Sullivan‘s comment to the trial court at the December 20 hearing, (2) the trial court was obligated to inform him of his right to represent himself, and (3) he again clearly and unequivocally invoked his right of self-representation through a written motion and oral argument at the sentencing hearing. We address each claim in turn.
Before turning to the defendant‘s specific claims in this certified appeal, [w]e begin with general principles. The
It is well established that [t]he right to counsel and the right to self-representation present mutually exclusive alternatives. A criminal defendant has a constitutionally protected interest in each, but since the two
The inquiry mandated by
State and federal courts consistently have discussed the right to self-representation in terms of invoking or asserting it . . . and have concluded that there can be no infringement of the right to self-representation in the absence of a defendant‘s proper assertion of that right. . . . The threshold requirement that the defendant clearly and unequivocally invoke his right to proceed pro se is one of many safeguards of the fundamental right to counsel. . . . Accordingly, [t]he constitutional right of self-representation depends . . . upon its invocation by the defendant in a clear and unequivocal manner. . . . In the absence of a clear and unequivocal assertion of the right to self-representation, a trial court has no independent obligation to inquire into the defendant‘s interest in representing himself . . . . [Instead] recognition of the right becomes a matter entrusted to the exercise of discretion by the trial court. . . . Conversely, once there has been an unequivocal request for self-representation, a court must undertake an inquiry [pursuant to
Although a clear and unequivocal request is required, there is no standard form it must take. [A] defendant does not need to recite some talismanic formula hoping to open the eyes and ears of the court to [that] request. Insofar as the desire to proceed pro se is concerned, [a defendant] must do no more than state his request, either orally or in writing, unambiguously to the court so that no reasonable person can say that the request was not made. . . . Moreover, it is generally incumbent upon the courts to elicit that elevated
Finally, in conducting our review, we are cognizant that the context of [a] reference to self-representation is important in determining whether the reference itself was a clear invocation of the right to self-representation. . . . The inquiry is fact intensive and should be based on the totality of the circumstances surrounding the request . . . which may include, inter alia, whether the request was for hybrid representation . . . or merely for the appointment of standby or advisory counsel . . . the trial court‘s response to a request . . . whether a defendant has сonsistently vacillated in his request . . . and whether a request is the result of an emotional outburst . . . . (Citations omitted; emphasis altered; internal quotation marks omitted.) State v. Jordan, supra, 305 Conn. 12–15.
I
We begin with the defendant‘s claims arising from the December 20 hearing, namely, that (1) Sullivan‘s statement informing the court of the defendant‘s desire to represent himself was the requisite clear and unequivocal request required by Faretta, and (2) the trial court improperly failed to advise him of his right to proceed as a self-represented party.
The Appellate Court‘s opinion sets forth the following additional relevant facts and procedural history. At the December 20 . . . hearing, Sullivan reported that the defendant had cut short their discussions concerning the case. When the court inquired into the reason for the defendant‘s refusal to communicate with his attorney, the defendant expressed the desire to fire his attorney.12 The court informed the defendant that he did not have the right to fire his attorney and that no cause existed for dismissing Sullivan from the case. The defendant mentioned his constitutional rights while making his request to remove his attorney. In response, Judge [Handy] told him that his constitutional rights only include the right to be represented by an attorney, not to be represented by the attorney of his choice. After several similar exchanges, Judge [Handy] told the defendant and Sullivan to try and work things out between them and then return to the courtroom. The record reflects that when they returned, the court asked for an update. Sullivan stated: Well, I did go downstairs and attempt to talk to [the defendant]. He did want to discuss strategy with me. He indicated now that he wishes to represent himself in this matter. I informed him that I didn‘t think Your Honor was going to allow him to represent himself on a murder charge simply because that would be much too dangerous and it would not be in his best interest. And that‘s about
The court then asked Sullivan whether the defendant refused to discuss evidence and whether he had copies of the transcripts from the probable cause hearing. Sullivan affirmatively answered the court‘s questions, and the court responded: I‘m going to put this on the trial list because at some point you need to communicate with [Attorney] Sullivan. You‘re on the firm trial list. You‘re on two hour notice. The hearing ended. On March 8, 2006, after granting Sullivan‘s motion to withdraw, [Judge Handy] appointed attorneys Sturman and Barrs as counsel. The court engaged in the following colloquy with the defendant:
The Court: Simply because you may not like the advice that you‘re getting from your attorneys, who happen to have law degrees and happen to know what they‘re doing, is not a reason for me to remove an attorney. Do you understand that?
The Defendant: Yes. I do, ma‘am.
The Court: I think you‘re going to have differences of opinions with these guys as well, and, you know, I don‘t want to hear complaints about the fact that you feel you‘re not being properly represented. Do I make myself clear?
The Defendant: Yes, ma‘am.13 (Emphasis added; footnote altered.) State v. Pires, supra, 122 Conn. App. 736–39.
A
We first address the defendant‘s claim that Sullivan‘s statement informing the trial court of the defendant‘s desire to represent himself must be viewed in the context of his multiple requests to dismiss counsel, including that made later at sentencing. See part II of this opinion. The defendant argues that these motions constituted an inexperienced layman‘s way of expressing his desire to proceed as a self-represented party, rather than have new counsel appointed. The defendant argues that, under State v. Flanagan, supra, 293 Conn. 426, he was not obligated to reassert his request to proceed as a self-represented party once the trial court, Handy, J., implicitly rejected it by failing to acknowledge Sullivan‘s remarks at the December 20 hearing. The defendant contends that this relief extended even after Judge Handy had permitted Barrs and Sturman to appear in lieu of Sullivan, arguing as a corollary that he did not waive his clear and unequivocal pretrial request to represent himself on December 20, 2005, when he accepted the appointment of counsel in Mаrch of 2006 and it is clear that he maintained the desire to be pro se through sentencing.
In response, the state first observes that whether a defendant has clearly and unequivocally invoked his right of self-representation is a fact intensive inquiry
We view the record in the present case under the totality of the circumstances standard set forth in State v. Jordan, supra, 305 Conn. 15. Under this standard, we first conclude that Sullivan‘s comments at the December 20 hearing, namely, that the defendant had, in an off-the-record conversation, indicated . . . that he wishes to represent himself in this matter, did not constitute the requisite clear and unequivocal request for self-representation. The defendant accurately observes that, as a general proposition, the trial court may rely on factual and legal representations by counsel to the court, which are then attributable to and binding on the attorney‘s client.14 See, e.g., Collins v. Lewis, 111 Conn. 299, 305, 149 A. 668 (1930); see also State v. Smith, 289 Conn. 598, 609, 960 A.2d 993 (2008). This isolated statement by counsel cannot, however, be considered a clear and unequivocal request for self-representation in the context of the present case. Specifically, the defendant remained silent at that time, including when Sullivan informed Judge Handy that she had advised the defendant it was unlikely that the court would grant his request. This silence is, at best, indica-
Second, although a defendant may condition an invocation of the right to self-representation on the court‘s denial of his request for a new аttorney, that alternatively phrased request still must be clear and unequivocal. See, e.g., State v. Jordan, supra, 305 Conn. 18–19; see also Williams v. Bartlett, 44 F.3d 95, 100 (2d Cir. 1994) (a defendant is not deemed to have equivocated in his desire for self-representation merely because he expresses that view in the alternative, simultaneously requests the appointment of new counsel, or uses it as a threat to obtain private counsel).
The record demonstrates, however, that, beyond the one isolated comment by Sullivan at the December 20 hearing, the defendant‘s energies at and before that pretrial proceeding had been exclusively devoted to trying to fire Sullivan and have her replaced with different court-appointed counsel. This pattern of activity began with the defendant‘s motion to dismiss [counsel] filed on May 25, 2005, and denied that same day by the trial court, Clifford, J., which had specifically requested that I be appointed a special attorney for my case, because me and my attorney are having a conflict of interest. Therefor I ask to dismiss [counsel].16 Thereafter, at a pretrial conference held on November 15, 2005, wherein Judge Handy reviewed a plea offer with the defendant and gave him until the December 20 hearing to accept or reject it, the defendant informed the court: I‘d like to fire my lawyer. I havе this on record. Although Judge Handy declined to replace Attorney Sullivan at that time, the defendant stated in response only that I still want her off my case, not once saying that he wanted to represent himself in lieu of having new counsel appointed.
Thus, in this context, the one isolated comment made by Sullivan on December 20 did not amount to the requisite clear and unequivocal invocation by the defen-
Further, Judge Handy‘s failure to acknowledge Sullivan‘s comment about the defendant‘s apparent desire to represent himself—and rule definitively on that particular matter—suggests that Sullivan‘s comment was not a clear and unequivocal request by the defendant. The trial court‘s response is one factor that we consider in determining whether the defendant‘s request was clear and unequivocal. See, e.g., State v. Jordan, supra, 305 Conn. 15; see also State v. Flanagan, supra, 293 Conn. 425 (request was clear and unequivocal given that trial court recognized and ruled on the defendant‘s request when it stated [i]n a word, no in response to the defendant‘s request, [d]on‘t I have the right to finish this case myself without [defense counsel] there and, more tellingly, when the court stated that if you‘re making a request of me that you be allowed to represent yourself or that you be allowed to retain or have a new counsel appointed for you, that request is denied [emphasis omitted]). Contrary to the defendant‘s argument, the trial court‘s failure to rule definitively on whether the defendant could represent himself did not amount to agreement with Sullivan‘s comments about the likely success of that request.18 Indeed, in a recent decision, the Second Circuit specifically rejected the argument that a trial judge‘s failure to rule definitively on a defendant‘s apparent request to proceed as a self-represented party constitutes a pocket veto of his request, holding that concept inapplicable to this judicial proceeding. United States v. Barnes, 693 F.3d 261,
Moreover, the defendant‘s conduct at his subsequent court appearances after the December 20 hearing suggests that Sullivan‘s comment on that date was not a clear and unequivocal request invoking the defendant‘s right to self-representation. Although a defendant is not required to reiterate fruitlessly his request for permission to proceed as a self-represented party once the court has denied that request; see, e.g., State v. Flanagan, supra, 293 Conn. 426; the record in the present case demonstrates that, at December 20 hearing, the defendant wanted the court to appoint new attorneys to his defense—relief that the defendant received on March 8, 2006, when Barrs and Sturman replaced Sullivan as appointed counsel.19 At that proceeding, the defendant expressed no dissatisfaction with the appointment of Barrs and Sturman as Sullivan‘s replacements, and did not request to represent himself. Thus, on March 8, 2006, the defendant received exactly what he requested during the December 20 hearing, namely, the appointment of new counsel.
Further, as the state notes, this pattern of conduct continued into trial, as, on August 2, 2006, the defendant filed another motion to dismiss [counsel], authored on July 26, 2006, wherein he complained at length about the failures of Barrs and Sturman, as well as Sullivan, to provide him with evidence and transcripts from the probable cause hearing that had been held in this case. After informing the trial court of his belief that Barrs and Sturman are going to damage my case, the defendant asked the court to [as]sign me a special public defender after explaining that groups such as the Connecticut Bar Association and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) had declined to assist him. Subsequently, on August 3, 2006, the defendant informed the trial court, Sсhimelman, J., that he had changed his mind about proceeding with that motion, and withdrew it.20 Indeed, the defendant again sought to replace counsel during appellate proceedings, seeking a pro bono to assist me on my case and did not mention his right to self-representation.21
Finally, even if we were to assume that Sullivan‘s comments on December 20 amounted to a clear and unequivocal invocation of the defendant‘s right of self-representation, the defendant subsequently waived that right through his conduct following the appointment
B
We next address the defendant‘s claim that the Appellate Court improperly concluded that the trial court was not obligated to advise him of his right to proceed
This line of cases is grounded in the policy and practical consideration that, such advices might suggest to the average defendant that he could in fact adequately represent himself and does not need an attorney, and it would be fundamentally unwise to impose a requirement to advise of the self-representation procedure which, if opted for by the defendant, is likely to be to no one‘s benefit. (Internal quotation marks omitted.) Russell v. State, supra, 270 Ind. 60; see also State v. Smith, supra, 215 N.W.2d 226 (noting that admonition of right to proceed pro se would add nothing to the rights of the accused, save only the hope of another possible omission because [t]he courts in Iowa and throughout the country have demonstrated no dangerous tendency to saddle unwilling accused with unwelcomed counsel); Commonwealth v. Myers, supra, 51 Mass. App. 629–30 (noting the obvious danger associated with such judicial intervention, i.e., that a defendant will treat advice regarding the existence of the right as a subtle indicator that the judge is in fact recommending that he exercise the right). It also is consistent with well settled Connecticut law, that, [i]n the absence of a clear and unequivocal assertion of the right
II
We next turn to the defendant‘s claim that the Appellate Court improperly rejected his claim that the trial court, Schimеlman, J., had failed to canvass the defendant in response to his clear and unequivocal request for self-representation, made at the sentencing hearing. The defendant argues that the record demonstrates that Judge Schimelman, through his comments praising the trial performance of Barrs and Sturman and noting his concern about the defendant‘s ability to represent himself at sentencing, clearly understood the defendant to be invoking his right of self-representation. The defendant further argues that Judge Schimelman improperly ignored the request, failed to inquire and focused instead on inappropriate factors such as whether granting the defendant the right to represent himself would be beneficial to the defendant, the family of the victim, or to the judicial process. We disagree. Assuming, without deciding, that the defendant made a clear and unequivocal request for self-representation at the sentencing hearing,25 we conclude that Judge Schimelman‘s ruling on that request was not an abuse of discretion under the balancing test set forth in State v. Flanagan, supra, 293 Conn. 433.
The Appellate Court‘s opinion aptly sets forth the following additional relevant facts and procedural history. On October 2, 2006, the defendant filed a handwritten motion to dismiss. On October 13, 2006, the court took up the motion prior to the sentencing portiоn
The Court: . . . [S]o that I‘m clear, are you telling me why it is that I should dismiss your lawyers at this point? Is that why you‘re telling me this? Is that what you want?
The Defendant: I asked that from the beginning. That‘s why I wrote you the motion to dismiss.
The Court: I‘m well aware of what you wrote me, and I‘m well aware of what I have done to date. I‘m asking you now, sir, whether or not you are asking me to dismiss your lawyers prior to this sentencing hearing. Is that what you‘re asking?
The Defendant: Yes.
After allowing the defendant further opportunity to explain his request, during which the defendant continued to comment on the evidence and facts, the court stated: There is nothing that you said to me that leads me to believe that I [should dismiss] them at this time. In fact, it would be to your disadvantage, in my mind, to dismiss them because they have the ability to explain to the court in a way that perhaps you, as a layperson, [do] not have, those matters that need to be discussed during this sentencing. And it would be counterproductive, in my mind, to dismiss them and to leave you without representation or to make the determination that this sentencing should be delayed. I think neither is necеssary, nor neither would be beneficial to you and, or, to the family of the victims in this case and, or, to the judicial process. Accordingly, your motion to dismiss your attorneys is denied. State v. Pires, supra, 122 Conn. App. 741–42.
A defendant‘s right to self-representation is not unqualified when that request is made after trial proceedings have commenced—even if the request is clear and unequivocal. Under Faretta v. California, supra, 422 U.S. 806–807, a trial court may deny a defendant his right to self-representation, inter alia, if he makes the request in untimely fashion such that granting it would disrupt the proceedings. (Internal quotation marks omitted.) State v. Flanagan, supra, 293 Conn. 431; see also id. (other grounds for denial are serious obstructionist misconduct and defendant‘s failure to knowingly and intelligently [waive] . . . right to counsel [internal quotation marks omitted]). With respect to the timeliness ground [for denial], the Second Circuit has stated previously that [a] criminal defendant must make a timely and unequivocal request to proceed pro se in order to ensure the orderly administration of justice and prevent the disruption of both the pre-trial proceedings and a criminal trial. . . . Assuming, how-
In Flanagan, we adopted the Second Circuit‘s balancing test to determine whether the defendant made his request in untimely fashion such that granting it would disrupt the proceedings . . . . (Internal quotation marks omitted.) State v. Flanagan, supra, 293 Conn. 432–33. We concluded that, when a defendant clearly and unequivocally has invoked his right to self-representation after the trial has begun, the trial court must consider: (1) the defendant‘s reasons for the self-representation request; (2) the quality of the defendant‘s counsel; and (3) the defendant‘s prior proclivity to substitute counsel. If, after a thorough consideration of these factors, the trial court determines, in its discretion, that the balance weighs in favor of the defendant‘s interest in self-representation, the court must then proceed to canvass the defendant in accordance with
Assuming, without deciding, that the defendant‘s request at sentencing to dismiss Barrs and Sturman constituted a clear and unequivocal request to proceed as self-represented party, we nevertheless conclude
Specifically, Judge Schimelman considered the defendant‘s reasons for his self-representation request, namely, that he was dissatisfied with the work of Sturman and Barrs, and the quality of the representation that they had provided, when the court observed that, you don‘t want to kill the messenger. Your lawyers, in my mind, did fantastic legal work with respect to your representation. Unfortunately for you, the result was not that the result that you sought. I‘m sure if there had been an acquittal, you would be the first to be congratulating your attorneys on what they did. Consistent with the third factor namely, the defendant‘s prior proclivity to substitute counsel; State v. Flanagan, supra, 293 Conn. 433; Judge Schimelman had been aware of and commented on the defendant‘s past motion practice and difficulties relating to his appointed attorneys. Finally, with respect to the determination that the potential disruption of the proceedings already in progress outweighs the defendant‘s interest in self-representation; id.; Judge Schimelman observed that, it would be counterproductive, in my mind, to dismiss [Barrs and Sturman] and to leave you without representation or to make the determination that this sentencing should be delayed. I think neither is necessary, nor neither would be beneficial either to you and, or, to the family of the victims in this case and, or, to the judicial process. (Emphasis added.) Having thoroughly reviewed the record, we conclude that Judge Schimelman‘s denial of the defendant‘s request for self-representation at sentencing was not an abuse of discretion. Accordingly, the defendant‘s right to self-representation was not violated, regardless of whether his request at the sentencing hearing was clear and unequivocal.
The judgment of the Appellate Court is affirmed.
In this opinion ZARELLA, EVELEIGH, MCDONALD and ESPINOSA, Js., concurred.
Notes
(1) Has been clearly advised of the right to the assistance of counsel, including the right to the assignment of сounsel when so entitled;
(2) Possesses the intelligence and capacity to appreciate the consequences of the decision to represent oneself;
(3) Comprehends the nature of the charges and proceedings, the range of permissible punishments, and any additional facts essential to a broad understanding of the case; and
(4) Has been made aware of the dangers and disadvantages of self-representation.
[Defense Counsel]: [The defendant] has cut short our discussions before I was able to discuss [the return] with him. And obviously I didn‘t have the opportunity to discuss that with him.
The Court: Why did he cut short your discussions?
[Defense Counsel]: Apparently he does not want to talk with me, Your Honor.
The Court: Mr. Pires, [W]e‘ve been through this before.
The Defendant: Yes. My constitutional—rights; I‘m firing my lawyer.
The Court: . . . [Y]our constitutional rights are as follows: You have the right to be represented by an attorney. If you can afford to hire an attorney yourself, then you are entitled to be represented by the attorney of your choice. If you are unable and financially incapable of hiring an attorney, then the court appoints an attorney to represent you. [Attorney] Sullivan has been appointed to represent you, and for some reason you‘re not cooperating with that; and I don‘t understand why because it‘s clearly in your best interest to do so, sir, because she is the attorney who is going to be representing you.
So, I suggest very strongly that you sit down and speak with her and that I don‘t have you coming out of lockup every time you‘re here, saying, I want a new attorney, because it‘s not going to happen . . . . This is the attorney who has been selected to represent you. She has a great deal of experience. She‘s been trying cases for years. She knows what she‘s doing. So, instead of bucking her, I expect that you will cooperate with her.
So I‘m going to pass this case and I want you to talk with your client . . . . Thank you, Mr. Pires. I‘ll see you shortly after you talk with Attorney Sullivan.
The Defendant: I still—
The Court: Mr. Pires.
The Defendant. Constitutional rights, I am firing my lawyer.
The Court: You can‘t fire her; you didn‘t hire her, Mr. Pires.
The Defendant: I want that to be on the record, too.
The Court: Mr. Pires. Bring him right back over here. Let me repeat this again, sir.
The Defendant: I did what you said.
The Court: The United States constitution and the constitution in the state of Connecticut, sir, you are entitled to be represented by an attorney.
The Defendant: Yes.
The Court: You, unfortunately, are not in a financial situation to hire who you would like. Therefore, the court is required to appoint someone to represent you. That has been done. That individual is Attorney Sullivan. With all due respect, Mr. Pires, you cannot fire her; you did not hire her. The only situation under which a new attorney would be appointed for you, Mr. Pires, is if for some reason [Attorney] Sullivan was deemed incompetent or incapable of representing yоu.
The Defendant: There you go. There you go. I put in a motion for question—
The Court: She is not incompetent and she is not incapable. You, sir,
have refused to speak with her, to work with her, and to help her with your defense. And so I am passing this case and asking you to do so because the case is on for accept or reject today, and we either need to go to trial or you need to plea. So, speak with your client. Please take [the defendant] downstairs, and [Attorney] Sullivan will meet him there.[Defense Counsel]: Thank you, Your Honor.
After counsel and the defendant returned to open court, the trial court asked Sullivan to educate the court on what happened. In response, the following colloquy occurred:
[Defense Counsel]: Well, I did go downstairs and attempt to talk to [the defendant]. He did want to discuss strategy with me. He indicated that he now wishes to represent himself in this matter. I informed him that I didn‘t think Your Honor was going to allow him to represent himself on a murder charge simply because that would be much too dangerous, and it would not be in his best interest. And that‘s about where we stand, your Honor.
The Court: You‘ve attempted to discuss with him the evidence and he refuses to discuss that with you?
[Defense Counsel]: Yes, Your Honor.
The Court: He has copies of the transcripts from the probable cause hearing?
[Defense Counsel]: He does.
The Court: I‘m going to put this on the trial list, because at some point you need to communicate with [Attorney] Sullivan. You‘re on the firm trial list. You‘re on two hour notice.
[Defense Counsel]: Thank you, your honor. (Emphasis added.)