The ultimate question before us is whether the trial judge had sufficient reason to revoke the probation of appellant (Young) based on evidence that he had murdered his grandmother (a crime for which he had not been tried). In the course of answering this question, we must answer two others: (1) Does the Supreme Court’s decision in
Crawford v. Washington,
I.
Young was convicted in 1995 of possession of a firearm during a crime of violence, an armed robbery; imposition of sentence was suspended and he was placed on probation for five years. In September 1997 he was arrested and charged with the murder of his grandmother, Eddie Mae Taylor. The government dismissed that case after a judge ruled that hearsay statements to the police by Young’s codefen-dant, Marcus Coleman, were inadmissible at Young’s trial. But, in the meantime, the government sought to revoke Young’s probation based on his involvement in the murder. Following an August 1999 hearing, the trial judge (Duncan-Peters) revoked the probation and sentenced Young to five to fifteen years’ imprisonment.
Evidence adduced at the revocation héaring and credited by the trial judge revealed the following. The 78-year-old Ms. Taylor was found dead in her home at 1010 C Street, S.E., on the afternoon of September 22, 1997. Death had occurred between 8:00 p.m. on September 21 and 4:00 am. that morning. Ms. Taylor had multiple blunt force wounds to her chest, neck, and head. An empty Citibank, F.S.B. envelope was found on top of her clothes in a dresser drawer in her bed *806 room. She had withdrawn a total of $150 from Citibank in the past two months and, according to one of her daughters, Pamela Lewis, always kept her money in the bedroom dresser in a bank envelope. The house had not been ransacked, there was no sign of forced entry, and the front door was unlocked.
Young had previously lived with Ms. Taylor and still had a key to the bottom lock on the front door. (Ms. Taylor, according to another daughter, for a while had used only a key to the bottom lock.) Around the time of her death Young had been in the process of cleaning her windows, thus had spent time in the house. Pamela Lewis also described an incident during the year before the death when $300 from Ms. Taylor’s tax refund had disappeared from the bedroom dresser while Young was in the home. After Ms. Taylor told him that “that money better appear back in this house,” Young went into the bedroom and came out with the money, claiming his grandmother had not looked carefully enough for it — though Lewis herself had previously looked for it unsuccessfully in the place where Young “found it.” On other occasions, Young had also asked Ms. Taylor for money, apparently prompting her anger.
In a statement to the police after the murder, Young admitted that he and Marcus Coleman had been just across the street from Ms. Taylor’s house at 2:00 in the morning of September 22. They had gone to 1017 C Street, S.E., to take money from Coleman’s mother’s beauty shop. 1 While Coleman tried unsuccessfully to enter the shop (he had no key to the top lock), Young said he waited in the car and noticed that Ms. Taylor’s porch light was on; he thought this strange but decided not to go over and knock for fear of awakening her.
In addition to the above evidence, the government was allowed to introduce successive statements that Coleman had made to the police following the murder. In an interview at the police station on September 23, Coleman explained that he and Young had gone to his mother’s store on C Street to get “goodies” and that Young waited in the car. When a detective commented that it seemed a coincidence that the two were across the street on the night Ms. Taylor died, Coleman responded that Young in fact had gone into Ms. Taylor’s house and that when he returned to the car, he looked sad and said that his grandmother had slipped, fallen, and hurt herself while he was on his way out the door. A day or so later, after being arrested for a probation violation of his own, 2 Coleman gave a more detailed statement incriminating Young (and, to a much lesser degree, himself) in the murder. Young, he said, had asked him to take him to Ms. Taylor’s house that evening, saying “it would be easier to sneak in the house at that time to get money.” After they drove to C Street in Coleman’s father’s car and Coleman was unable to enter his mother’s shop, he returned to the car but saw that Young had gone into his grandmother’s house through the front door. A few minutes later Young returned to the car with his keys in his hand, looking sad. He told Coleman that he had gone into Ms. Taylor’s bedroom where she kept her money in a drawer, that she had been asleep but woke up, and that she followed him downstairs yelling at *807 him. He went out back, obtained a brick, and beat her with it before leaving the house with $150 he had taken from the drawer. On the way home, he showed Coleman a bundle of $10 bills.
Coleman did not testify at Young’s revocation hearing because he had asserted his privilege against self-incrimination.
II.
Young contends first that Coleman’s “presumptively unreliable” statements to the police while in custody,
see Lee v. Illinois,
Due process, of course, gives the probationer at a revocation hearing a qualified right “to confront and cross-examine adverse witnesses (unless the hearing officer specifically finds good cause for not allowing confrontation).”
Morrissey,
Young argues, nevertheless, that
Crawford
reinforces the Supreme Court’s previous recognition that statements such as those admitted here are “presumptively unreliable,”
see Lee,
III.
When we turn to that issue, we are met at once with a similar misapplication by Young of Sixth Amendment principles to the present context. Citing
Idaho v. Wright,
*810 Young makes one additional challenge to the trial judge’s consideration of Coleman’s hearsay statements. He contends that where revocation of probation is premised on the probationer’s commission of a crime that has not (or not yet) resulted in a conviction, the government should be required to prove the crime (hence the probation violation) by clear and convincing evidence. Coleman’s hearsay statements, he argues, because “presumptively unreliable,” cannot possibly meet that standard. We reject the premise of this argument, i.e., that commission of a new crime, alone among the reasons why probation may be revoked, must be assayed by a heightened standard of proof. In Harris, supra, we explained:
Practice has shown that probation violations fall into three general categories: (1) technical (e.g., failing to report to the probation office ...); (2) substantive (e.g., using illegal drugs, or failing to abide by a substantial probation condition such as drug treatment ...); and (3) commission of a new criminal offense.
Harris,
It is ... unclear whether a clear and convincing standard would be in the best interests of defendants as a class. When a district judge makes the initial choice between incarceration and probation, he no doubt considers the ease with which probation can be revoked if the defendant does not honor the conditions of probation. The more difficult we make it for trial judges to revoke probation the less likely they will be to offer defendants probation in the first place.
Id.
at 238 n. 1,
Essentially for the reasons stated by the trial judge in her exhaustive written opinion, we sustain her determination that Coleman’s hearsay statements, viewed together with the other evidence, were reliable enough to support revocation. Even without Coleman’s statements, evidence showed that Young had been caught once before (by Ms. Taylor) in the act of taking money from his grandmother’s bedroom dresser; that he had ready access to her house around the time of the theft and murder (there were no signs of forced entry); and that he confessed to having been across the street from her house at a time when the murder could have taken place, ostensibly to aid Coleman in burglarizing his mother’s shop. The trial judge further rejected any notion that Coleman’s statements to the police had been coerced or in any way prompted by his interrogators, 7 a fact highly significant because Young has offered no other explanation for how Coleman — unreliably— learned details of the crime closely matching the extrinsic evidence. Specifically, Coleman said that Young told him he had gone into his grandmother’s bedroom where he knew she kept her money in a drawer and had taken $150 (even showing Coleman a bundle of $10 bills) before she awoke and angrily followed him, and he was forced to beat her. Extrinsic evidence indeed showed that $150 had been taken from an envelope in Ms. Taylor’s dresser drawer. Viewing the evidence altogether, Judge Duncan-Peters concluded:
The [cjourt may reasonably decline to attribute to coincidence Ms. Taylor’s death and [Young’s] admitted connection to the scene during the time frame in which her death occurred. Coupled with Mr. Coleman’s detailed ... statement that Mr. Young, his best friend, committed the offense, and the additional evidence [including Young’s knowledge of where Ms. Taylor kept her money, having retrieved money from her bedroom before] that corroborates Mr. Coleman’s ... version of events, the evidence is compelling that Mr. Young did indeed commit the offense.
We agree with this conclusion. The judge therefore properly revoked Young’s probation.
Affirmed.
Notes
. Young made a similar admission to his father that he had gone with Coleman to the 1000 block of C Street, S.E., at 2:00 a.m. intending to sneak into Ms. Coleman’s beauty parlor and take some money.
. Coleman had been Young’s codefendant in the underlying 1995 case and had likewise received a suspended sentence in favor of probation.
. Although the Court "spell[ed] out [no] comprehensive definition of 'testimonial,' ” Crawford, 124 S.Ct. at 1374, it held that "[statements taken by police officers in the course of interrogations are ... testimonial under even a narrow [definition of the term].” Id. at 1364. The government does not dispute that Coleman’s statements were testimonial in this sense.
.
See also Black v. Romano,
. The same rule governs in federal probation revocation hearings, where the federal rules of evidence expressly do not apply. See Fed. R. Evid. 1101(d)(3). Instead, the general rule — as under this court’s cases — is that hearsay evidence may be admitted in the trial court’s discretion if it bears sufficient indicia of reliability.
See, e.g., United States v. Stanfield,
. We have previously held that hearsay evidence should be considered reliable — in an administrative proceeding — "unless it is irrelevant, immaterial, or unduly repetitious.”
Robinson,
. "The [c]ourt has seen no evidence that would lead it to conclude that Mr. Coleman is so pliable that he could be persuaded by a mild-mannered police interrogator to implicate his best friend in a horrific murder.”
