After considering appellee’s petition for rehearing en banc and appellant’s response thereto, we grant rehearing and withdraw our prior opinion in this case,
Appellee Verone Fehlhaber brought this diversity of citizenship action in the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida seeking recognition and enforcement of two judgments entered against her husband in a California action for legal separation. Appellant Fred Fehl-haber seeks to collaterally attack these judgments.
I. Facts
Verone and Fred were married in 1961 in New York. In 1967 they moved to Indian Creek Village, Florida, where they had built a house and where Fred eventually was elected mayor. Beginning in 1969 the Fehl-habers began spending several months a year in California. Fred contends that this was their vacation site; Verone contends that California was their domicile and vacations were taken in Florida. In April 1974 Verone left Fred and moved to California, *1019 and on May 17, 1974 she filed an action in California court for legal separation, spousal support, attorney’s fees, and a determination of her marital property rights. Fred was personally served in Florida June 5. Six days later, June 11, Fred filed a petition in Florida for dissolution of the marriage. Verone was personally served in California.
Fred then made a special appearance in California to contest the court’s exercise of personal jurisdiction over him, and lost. He did not file an answer to the complaint, took no further action in defense of the cause, and was declared in default August 19.
Fred pursued his Florida divorce action in defiance of an injunction by the California court. Verone never made an appearance in the Florida case, and the Florida court dissolved the Fehlhabers’ marriage July 23, 1974, before the California court had entered any judgments. Nevertheless, the California separation proceedings continued, and in a judgment entered October 4, 1974 the court ordered legal separation and granted Verone $8,500 a month in support retroactive to August 1 and $45,000 in attorney’s fees and court costs, while expressly reserving all issues regarding the division of property.
To resolve the reserved property issues Verone served on Fred, who was still in default, a request for admissions concerning the value of their marital property. Fred did not respond. The California court, acting through a judge pro tem, took these unanswered requests as admitted and found that the marital estate was worth $19,994,-711.14. Rather than dividing the assets in kind, in its March 12, 1976 judgment the court awarded Fred all of the property and awarded Verone a money judgment of $9,997,355.57 as a cash equalization of her share of the property, plus $30,000 for costs and attorney’s fees.
With jurisdiction grounded upon diversity of citizenship, 28 U.S.C. § 1332, Verone brought an action in federal district court in Florida to enforce these two California judgments. 1 Fred, in an effort to persuade the district court not to enforce the presumptively valid judgments, based his defense upon numerous challenges to the jurisdiction of the California court and to the validity of that court’s judgments. The district court rejected all of Fred’s challenges and, considering itself bound by the full faith and credit clause of the U.S. Constitution, granted summary judgment for Verone and entered judgment in her favor: (1) for $516,750, consisting of $471,750 unpaid support from August 1, 1974 and $45,-000 unpaid suit costs and attorney’s fees; and (2) for $12,114,991.41, consisting of the unpaid cash award of $9,997,355.57 plus interest thereon of $2,081,390.09, and the unpaid attorney’s fees and costs of $30,000 plus interest thereon of $6,245.75.
On appeal Fred contends that the district court was in error for the following reasons:
(1) The California judgments are subject to collateral attack;
(2) The Florida divorce divested the California court of jurisdiction over Verone’s legal separation action;
(3) The court was not empowered to award a cash offset instead of a division of property;
(4) The default procedures used violated Fred’s due process rights; and
(5) The California court unconstitutionally exercised jurisdiction over Fred’s property located out of state.
We first outline the requirements of full faith and credit and the rules of collateral attack, and then we examine the asserted defects in the California judgments. We conclude that the judgments are valid and immune from collateral attack except that the judgment of property division grants relief partially in excess of the amount encompassed in Verone’s complaint.
*1020 II. Full faith and credit and collateral attack
Title 28 U.S.C. § 1738 requires that we give to the California judgments “the same full faith and credit as they have by law or usage in the courts of [California].”
2
A two-level analysis is employed to determine whether a state court judgment must be enforced under this provision.
See Williams v. North Carolina,
The requirement of full faith and credit is tempered, however, by “some basic limitations.” Underwriters
National Assurance Co. v. North Carolina Life and Accident and Health Insurance Guaranty Assoc.,
- U.S. -, -,
To summarize this two-level analysis, collateral attack of the California judgments might occur under two sets of principles. Under federal principles we determine whether the judgments possess the requisite validity to apply full faith and credit. If full faith and credit applies we look to state law to determine how much credit they deserve. 5 Conversely put, the California judgments are not to be enforced if they are subject to successful collateral at *1021 tack either under the “basic limitations” of federal law or under California law. 6
III. The effect of the prior Florida divorce
During the pendency of Yerone’s California suit for legal separation, and before any judgment was entered, Fred obtained in Florida a presumptively valid divorce. 7 Subsequently the California court entered a judgment of legal separation and entered the two monetary judgments concerning spousal support and property rights sought to be enforced here. Fred contends that, despite the fact that the Florida decree did not purport to adjudicate support and property rights, the Florida decree had the effect under California law of depriving the California court of further jurisdiction over Verone’s legal separation action. We assume arguendo that the prior Florida decree is a matter for collateral attack 8 and find that the Florida divorce did not affect the power or jurisdiction of the California court over the judgments enforced here.
In California “prior dissolution of the marriage is ... a complete defense to ... an action [for legal separation].”
DeYoung v. DeYoung,
This argument reasons too broadly. The rationale for the rule that marriage is a prerequisite to such actions is that a prior divorce moots the prayer for legal separation or divorce.
Hudson,
Fred next contends that although Verone’s prayer for determination of her property rights might have survived the Florida divorce, it did so only as an action in equity and not as a statutory action under the Family Law Act, Cal. Civil Code § 4000
et seq.,
because a prayer for legal separation or divorce is a statutory prerequisite to a determination of property rights under the Act,
see id.
at § 4800. The distinction between an equitable and a statutory action is significant because the court’s nonstatutory powers of property division are apparently more constrained.
See Buller v. Buller,
The argument that a statutory action for determination of property rights depends on the pendency of a proceeding for dissolution of marriage or legal separation was squarely rejected in
In re Marriage of Lusk,
[Wjife contends that adjudication of the dissolution of the marriage would leave the trial court without jurisdiction to make a subsequent order for her support under [the Family Law Act] or ex parte protective orders [under the Act] in respect to the disposition or alienation of property or restraining husband from molesting or disturbing her or the minor children.... The argument is that the language of those code sections indicate *1023 that such orders may be made only during the pendency of a proceeding for dissolution of marriage and that once the marriage is dissolved, no proceeding will any longer be pending for dissolution of the marriage. We are not so persuaded. In the first place, ... [i]f the court expressly reserved jurisdiction over such matters, its jurisdiction would not be exhausted .... Secondly, if an action is commenced as one for dissolution of the marriage and involves issues of custody, support, property division and attorney fees, the fact that the marriage is dissolved does not necessarily require the conclusion that the action is no longer being, prosecuted under [the Act], It would be entirely reasonable to conclude that the action continues to be prosecuted pursuant to [the Act],
We therefore must conclude that the law in California is that if a marriage exists when an action is commenced under the Family Law Act, the subsequent dissolution of that marriage does not divest a California court of its statutory jurisdiction over property and support issues, even though the court might not have expressly reserved jurisdiction over those matters.
IV. The property division judgment
The property division judgment was a cash award of $9,997,355.57, arrived at as follows. After Fred had been declared in default Verone submitted to Fred a request for admissions concerning the value of their marital estate subject to division under California’s community property laws. Fred did not respond. Verone moved to have these unanswered requests taken as admitted. The trial court, acting through a judge pro tern, granted this motion and thus found the marital estate to be valued at $19,994,711.14. Rather than dividing the assets in kind or offsetting one asset for another, the court awarded all of the assets to Fred and granted Verone a cash judgment of one-half this amount as a cash offset in lieu of her entire share of the marital estate. Fred contends that the property judgment was grossly inflated because he is worth less than $7 million. He seeks to attack the judgment on grounds that we divide into three groupings: (1) the cash offset was invalid as exceeding the statutory powers of the California court and as exceeding the prayer for relief in Verone’s complaint; (2) the method of proof was so defective as to deny due process; and (3) the California court’s exercise of jurisdiction over property located out of state was unconstitutional because Fred was not domiciled in California.
A. Cash offset
In dividing a marital estate California courts are empowered “where economic circumstances warrant” to “award
any
asset to one party on such conditions as it deems proper to effect a substantially equal division of the property.” Cal.Civil Code § 4800(b)(1). For example, one spouse might be awarded the television on the condition that the other keep the microwave, if the two are substantially of equal value. The court might also award an asset to one spouse and award the other spouse a monetary judgment as a cash equalization.
See, e.g., Weinberg v. Weinberg,
Fred argues with some force that awarding a cash judgment as Verone’s entire share of the marital estate is unprecedented in California law and that there was a total absence of findings of “economic circumstances” warranting any offset as required by § 4800. Conceding that the trial court may have committed egregious error, we cannot agree that the California court exceeded its powers or jurisdiction in granting an entire cash offset given the discretionary terms in which § 4800(b)(1) is viewed by the California law.
10
Nor does the failure to find “economic circumstances” render the judgment subject to collateral attack. In
Badillo v. Badillo,
Fred also contends that, assuming the California court acted within its statutory powers, no notice was given in the complaint that a cash offset was sought and therefore the judgment rendered in default is void. California law, like federal, provides that a default judgment “cannot exceed that which ... [was] demanded in [the] complaint.” Cal.Code Civ.Pro. § 580; see F.R.Civ.P. 54(c). In California a failure to comply with this requirement renders the judgment void and subject to collateral attack.
Burtnett v. King,
Applying this rule, the court in
Wilkinson v. Wilkinson,
Despite the close similarity of Wilkinson it is not controlling here. In Wilkinson the wife prayed specifically that the community property be awarded to her. Here Verone prayed broadly that “property rights be determined as provided by law” and that the court “render such judgments ... as are appropriate.” As discussed above, the trial court was vested with broad discretion in effecting an offset, and so, absent a restrictive prayer for relief such as that in Wilkinson, Fred was put on notice that he was potentially subject to a monetary judgment. 11 The kind of relief award *1025 ed was therefore within the prayer for relief.
The cash judgment of $9,997,355.57 exceeded, however, the amount of relief encompassed by the complaint. Section 580, in requiring that a default judgment cannot exceed the prayer for relief, limits the judgment in the amount of relief as well as the kind of relief.
Becker v. S.P.V. Construction Co., Inc.,
Verone’s general prayer that “property rights be determined” and that the court “render such judgments as are appropriate” does not meet this requirement of specific notice of the amount of cash judgment that Fred was subject to.
12
Allegations elsewhere in the complaint cure this defect to a certain extent. In her complaint Verone alleged that the marital estate subject to division consisted of property valued “in excess of $15,000,000.00.” This specification in the body of the complaint meets the requirements of Cal.Code Civ.Pro. § 580.
Thornson
v.
Western Development Corp.,
B. Method of proof
Where damages are unliquidated a default admits only defendant’s liability and the amount of damages must be proved.
Uva v. Evans,
(1) California law
Despite the mandatory nature of the requirement in Cal.Code Civ.Pro. § 585(b) that proof be taken to justify the amount of a default judgment, the requirement is not “jurisdictional” under California law and therefore does not subject an irregular default judgment to collateral attack.
14
The rule in California is that generally failure of the court to comply with the requirements of § 585(b) constitutes “at most but an erroneous exercise of jurisdiction ... [and] not an absence of jurisdiction; ... [a] judgment entered by a court [not in conformity with § 585(b) ] is therefore merely voidable, and not void, and can only be attacked by appeal or motion made within six months thereafter.”
Baird v. Smith,
*1027 (2) Federal principles
Under federal law, Fred contends that the total lack of competent proof of the value of the marital estate is grounds for denying full faith and credit because the lack of proof violates due process of law. A judgment rendered in violation of due process is indeed void and therefore need not be enforced under 28 U.S.C. § 1738 or the full faith and credit clause of the Constitution.
Kremer v. Chemical Construction Corp.,
- U.S. -, - & n.24,
The due process requirements in a civil ease where only property interests are at stake are, of course, much less stringent than in a criminal case involving life and liberty interests. Thus ordinarily all that due process requires in a civil case is proper notice and service of process and a court of competent jurisdiction; procedural irregularities during the course of a civil case, even serious ones, will not subject the judgment to collateral attack.
See Windsor v. McVeigh,
The leading case allowing collateral attack of a default judgment for procedural errors during the course of a jurisdictionally proper proceeding is
Bass v. Hoagland,
*1028
The alleged procedural errors in the instant case, although they are serious and “seem to present a case of injustice,”
Bass, supra,
The only respect in which this case and
Bass
are similar is the allegation that there was a total lack of evidence to support the amount of the award.
17
This is not a sufficient irregularity under federal principles to subject the California judgment to collateral attack. First, there is no indication from
Bass
that the lack of evidence on damages alone would have subjected the judgment to collateral attack. This was one of many defects recited by the court as leading to the conclusion that due process was not afforded.
See
The holding in
Bass
is a rare exception to the normal rules of collateral attack. 6
Moore’s, supra,
at ¶ 55.09, p. 204 (“an occasional atypical case” not establishing a general rule); 7
id.
at ¶ 60.25[2], p. 309-11. While the principle of
Bass
has full effect in this court,
Bonner v. City of Prichard,
No lesser ground than a judgment rendered in violation of due process will suffice for collateral attack in this case. Fred contends that collateral attack is allowed in order to avoid manifest injustice.
Garner v. Giarrusso,
C. Jurisdiction over quasi-community property
Virtually all of the property that was the basis for the property division judgment was located outside of California. The California court exercised jurisdiction to divide the property under California’s “quasi-community property” statute, which treats as community property all property acquired by a spouse while domiciled elsewhere that would have been community property if the spouse had been domiciled in California at the time of acquisition. Cal. Civil Code § 4803. Fred contends that under the laws of Florida, where he claims to be domiciled, this property is not subject to division and that therefore application of California’s quasi-community property statute was unconstitutional because he has insufficient contacts with the state.
The district court did not address this contention so we must determine whether it was adequately presented below. This de *1030 fense was first mentioned obliquely in Fred’s answer to the supplemental complaint, 23 and again mentioned in his “motion for new trial” filed after the district court’s entry of summary judgment for Verone. 24 For several reasons, neither instance was sufficient to preserve the issue for appeal.
First, the defense concerning quasi-community property mentioned in Fred’s answer to the supplemental complaint was abandoned. At no time during the lengthy district court proceedings did Fred develop this argument in his briefs to the court, through oral argument, or through citation of authority. In particular, the point was not even mentioned in the two briefs filed by Fred in opposition to summary judgment. Failure to brief and argue an issue is grounds for finding that the issue has been abandoned.
See U. S. v. Indiana Bonding & Surety Co.,
[t]he parties agreed by stipulation . . . what issues of fact and law were to be decided by the trial court. This point was not included in those issues remaining open for consideration. Thus the appellant should not be permitted to raise the issue here for the first time.
See also Automated Medical Laboratories, Inc.
v.
Armour Pharmaceutical Co.,
Second, the thirteenth-hour raising of the issue in Fred’s motion for a new trial will not cure these defaults. Again, the point was not briefed, nor was it mentioned in the hearing the court held on the motion. Moreover, an argument first raised in a postjudgment motion “is simply too late.”
Excavators & Erectors, Inc. v. Bullard Engineers, Inc.,
An issue not properly preserved for appeal will generally not be considered unless the issue is a purely legal one and the asserted error is so obvious that the failure to consider it would result in a miscarriage of justice.
Payne
v.
McLemore’s Wholesale & Retail Stores,
Second, California’s exercise of jurisdiction over the marital assets does not plainly render the property judgment subject to collateral attack. Assuming that an unconstitutional exercise of jurisdiction occurred, it is possible that taking cognizance of this jurisdictional defect is foreclosed under principles of res judicata.
26
Although judgments void for lack of jurisdiction will not be enforced, jurisdiction may not be questioned if the issue was fully and fairly litigated in the rendering court,
Underwriters National Assurance Co., supra,
- U.S. at - - -,
V.
In this bitter and protracted litigation Verone is largely successful. The majority of defects in the two California judgments awarding support and community property are either nonexistent or not subject to collateral attack either under federal principles limiting full faith and credit or under California principles of collateral attack. California law does allow limited collateral attack of the default property judgment because it grants more relief than requested in the complaint, so we find that, with respect to the principal amount awarded by its terms, enforcement of the property judgment is limited to $7,500,000.
*1032 Rehearing GRANTED, prior opinion WITHDRAWN and new opinion filed. The judgment of the district court is AFFIRMED in part, REVERSED in part, and REMANDED for further proceedings not inconsistent with this opinion.
Notes
. Verone sued to enforce other judgments of the California court as well, but the district court found it unnecessary to enforce them as they overlapped the two discussed above. No cross appeal has been taken on this issue.
.
Section 1738 imposes on the federal courts the same full faith and credit requirements imposed on the state courts by the U.S. Const. art. IV, § 1. See
Ultracashmere House, Ltd v. Meyer,
. This was the holding in
New York ex rel. Halvey v. Halvey,
[A] judgment has no constitutional claim to a more conclusive or final effect in the State of the [enforcing] forum than it has in the State where rendered.
[I]t is clear that the State of the forum has at least as much leeway to disregard the judgment, to qualify it, or to depart from it as does the State where it was rendered.
It is not shown that the New York court in modifying the Florida decree exceeded the limits permitted under Florida law. There is therefore a failure of proof that the Florida decree received less credit in New York than it had in Florida.
See also Ford v. Ford,
. Another limitation, discussed below in part IV B(2), is that the judgment must comply with the requirements of due process. See also note 6 infra.
. Unfortunately California does not have a procedure by which this court can certify to its courts the dispositive questions of state law that must be answered in this case.
. Recent Supreme Court authority suggests a possible change in analysis from a two-step inquiry to a unified theory of full faith and credit. In its prior decisions the Court has stated that a judgment rendered without subject matter jurisdiction is not given full faith and credit; however, principles of res judicata apply to jurisdictional issues as well as to the merits, and if there has been a full and fair litigation of jurisdictional issues, or even a full and fair
opportunity
to litigate such issues, then possible jurisdictional defects are not considered. See, e.g.,
Underwriters National Assurance Co. v. North Carolina Life and Accident and Health Insurance Guaranty
Ass’n, - U.S. -, -, & n.16,
To summarize, in
Underwriters
and previous cases the Supreme Court has stated that “[i]f [the rendering] court did not have jurisdiction over the subject matter or the relevant parties, full faith and credit need not be given, ... [but] principles of res judicata apply to questions or jurisdiction as well as to other issues,” limiting the scope of review over jurisdiction. - U.S. at -,
Because the approach we outline in text has explicit Supreme Court approval, see, e.g., Williams v. North Carolina, and because it is not necessary to our decision to resolve the tension in the Supreme Court’s cases, see part IV B(2) & n.22 infra, we continue to employ the traditional two-step analysis.
. Verone was personally served and does not question the validity of the divorce.
. The district court construed Fred’s argument to be one that the California court failed to give full faith and credit to the Florida decree, and it held that this defense was not grounds for collateral attack. We differ in our analysis because we do not view Fred’s contention as a mere full faith and credit defense that he might have raised in California. Because the Florida decree concerns only the marital res, and the California judgments sought to be enforced here concern only property and support rights, the California judgments in no way deny effect to the Florida decree. Instead Fred contends that California law gives a jurisdictional impact to the prior Florida divorce.
. This was the reasoning in the original opinion.
. Here we address this defect in jurisdictional terms. We also reject below the contention that the lack of evidence of economic circumstances denied Fred due process. See part IV B(2), infra.
. Fred observes that when Verone moved for judgment on the reserved property issues she asked the court more specifically to “divide the property equally among the parties.” Had this been an amendment to her complaint Wilkinson might apply. It was, however, merely a motion which the California court chose not to grant, and thus when the marital property issues were determined by the California court it was still operating under the broad prayer in the original complaint.
. We reject Verone’s contention that the rule in Becker applies only in contract and tort actions and not in actions under the Family Law Act. It is true that the court in Becker relied in part on Cal.Code Civ.Pro. § 410.25 (providing that “if the recovery of money ... be demanded, the amount thereof shall be stated [in the complaint]”), which does not apply in cases under the Family Law Act, Cal.Code Civ. Pro. § 429.40; California Rules of Court, Rule 1215. But the court also relied on Cal.Code Civ.Pro. § 585(b) (a default judgment may be awarded only “for such sum (not exceeding the amount stated in the complaint)”), which does apply to family law cases. Moreover, the court’s reasoning was quite broad, finding the requirement of a specific prayer for damages from the need for “fundamental fairness” enforced by § 580. Therefore, nothing in the Becker court’s reasoning suggests that its holding would not apply to a cash judgment in lieu of an award of community property assets. (We intimate no view of the requirements of § 580 where the property judgment divides the assets in kind, or offsets one asset for another.) Finally, giving notice of the amount of a cash property division judgment is not inconsistent with the Family Law Rules, for the form pleading provided therein allows the petitioner to specify the kind, amount, and value of property subject to division. California Rules of Court, Rule 1281; see Rule 1285.55 (adopted Jan. 1, 1980).
. This holds only with respect to the cash offset judgment. The judgments for alimony, attorney’s fees, and costs are valid despite the failure to specify in the complaint how much was sought for these items. In
Horton v. Horton,
. A failure of proof may be raised on appeal from the default judgment, however.
Uva v. Evans, supra,
. Professor Moore rejects a reading of Bass under which collateral attack was allowed for one of the procedural errors in favor of a read *1028 ing that only the combination of errors opened the default judgment to attack:
Implicit in the court’s opinion is the belief that the combined procedural irregularities had resulted in injustice.... It is believed that the case does not stand for the bare proposition that [the denial of a jury trial was] so fundamental that it is the basis for a collateral attack. Certainly the case cannot be supported if that is what it stands for.
5 Moore’s, supra, at ¶ 38.19[3], p. 174.
. The default was entered because of the withdrawal of Bass’s counsel, not because of the nonappearance or default of Bass himself.
. Fred contends that there was no evidence of the value of the marital estate and no evidence to support a finding of economic necessity to award a cash offset.
. Some courts are of the view that due process is met even though there is an entire lack of evidence,
see
49 C.J.S. Judgments § 432 (1947) (collecting state cases); part IV B(1)
supra.
The Supreme Court has indicated, however, that some civil judgments may be collaterally attacked where “there was no evidence to support the order.”
Eagles, supra,
. “Due process does not ... require that the defendant in every civil case actually have a hearing on the merits. A state can, for example, enter a default judgment against a defendant who, after adequate notice, fails to make a timely appearance....”
Bass does not conflict with this view, for there the defendant had not defaulted but was erroneously treated in default for the withdrawal of his counsel.
. Fred was given notice by Verone that she intended to request the California court to accept the unanswered requests for admissions as admitted.
. Fred also places reliance on
Compton
v.
Alton Steamship Co.,
. The discussion in text explains that possible exceptions to full faith and credit do not apply on the facts of this case. Moreover, even if the suggested exceptions were applicable on these facts, the exceptions may not be relevant to state judgments under a full faith and credit analysis. These exceptions were developed in the context of the enforcement of federal judgments, and, as discussed in note 6, supra, federal principles of res judicata may not be relevant to state judgments. In short, not every defect that renders a judgment “void” under federal law may suffice to deny effect to a state judgment under the full faith and credit clause of § 1738.
. The defense was not framed in constitutional terms:
The Defendant further denies that the Courts of the State of California had jurisdiction over the real and personal property of this Defendant, which real and personal property was located outside the territorial limits of the State of California.
. “It is a serious question that may have been developed through discovery .. . that may have established or led toward the establishment of the fact that since Florida was the domiciliary residence of both of the parties the property which had been acquired was not community property under the laws of the State of California or even quasi community property since it was all acquired outside of the State of California when neither of the parties were domicilliaries of the State of California.... Serious due process questions could have been developed....”
. This issue was disputed by the parties in the California court when Fred made a special appearance to quash summons but was never adjudicated. The court ruled that Fred was a resident and that this was sufficient under California’s long arm statute, even in matrimonial cases. No ruling was made whether Fred was a domiciliary.
. We examine federal principles in text. It is clear that the defect would not be subject to collateral attack in California as well, because there the lack of jurisdiction must appear affirmatively on the face of the record.
Texas Co. v. Bank of America National Trust & Sav. Ass’n.,
. Even if the issue were not actually litigated, it is arguable that because Fred was served with proper service of process and given notice of the California proceedings his
opportunity
to raise the issue was sufficient to foreclose any consideration of the issue in defense to full faith and credit enforcement. Had Fred made a general appearance in the California court he could not now question jurisdiction.
Sherrer, supra.
Fred distinguishes
Sherrer
on the basis that he defaulted and made no general appearance. The res judicata effect of a default judgment on jurisdictional defects is an unsettled question, however,
see Sherrer,
