This appeal arises out of the suppression of defendant Robert Williams’s station house confession to unlawful dealings in firearms.
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That confession followed an incriminating statement made in response to brief questioning at the apartment where he was arrested earlier that day. The confession followed
Miranda
warnings; the earlier incriminating statement did not. The United States District Court for the Southern District of New York (Gardaphe, /.) suppressed the station house confession as the product of a deliberate, two-stage
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interrogation strategy barred by
Missouri v. Seibert,
BACKGROUND
In October 2009 Williams, along with his cousin Forenzo Walker, was arrested in a Bronx, New York, apartment following the execution of a search warrant that led to the recovery of four firearms. According to Williams’s subsequent confession, he, Walker, and a man named Charles Smith had аrrived in New York City the previous morning from Birmingham, Alabama. Williams and Smith planned to sell thirteen guns they had procured in Alabama.
Williams was not the primary target of the search warrant; Smith was. For a year and a half, officers of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (“ATF”) and the New York City Police Department (“NYPD”) had, based on the report of a confidential informant, been investigating a man known to the informant as “Alabama” whom they suspected of buying firearms in Alabama for resale in New York. J.A. at 135. On the day of defendant’s arrest, the informant spotted “Alabama” and two other men selling firearms at the Bronx apartment, and notified an NYPD detective. At the detective’s instruction, the informant returned to the apartment and purchased a firearm from “Alabama” in the presence of the two other men. He then reported to the detective that multiple firearms were being sold by the three men at the apartment.
The detective relayed the information to ATF Special Agent Peter D’Antonio, who prepared an application for a search warrant that wаs issued around 8:30 p.m. that evening. D’Antonio, whom the district court found credible, testified at a suppression hearing that it was important to obtain the search warrant promptly because
we had information that there was multiple firearms at the location being sold by two or three of those individuals. And there were totaling over 10 firearms .... At that point, we wanted to get the firearms off the street. We did not want them to get out of the apartment ... [and] sold and used for illegal purposes up there.
Id. at 239-240.
Law enforcement officers executed the searсh warrant at approximately 10:30 p.m. NYPD personnel entered the apartment first and secured its four occupants: Williams, Walker, and two women. Five ATF agents, including D’Antonio and Special Agent Thomas Kelly, and several more NYPD police officers, including Detective Hector Santiago, then entered the apartment. They found Williams and Walker seated and handcuffed on the floor of the living room. Four semi-automatic handguns and ammunition lay beside them. They also observed one of the women “afraid” and “shaking” in the kitchen. Id. at 243.
On entering the apаrtment and observing the guns, D’Antonio asked Williams “whose firearms they were?” Id. at 244. Williams responded “that the firearms were all his” and “that he didn’t want to *38 get his cousin [ — Walker—] involved.” Id. Expecting to find closer to ten firearms in the apartment, D’Antonio also asked where the other firearms were, and where the third gun trafficker was. The record indicates no response from Williams to these latter two questions.
Following this brief questioning of Williams, D’Antonio, who is an ATF medic, turned his attention to the frightened woman, whom he “saw was progressively getting a little worse.” Id. at 245. After checking her vital signals, he requested an ambulance. Approximately an hour later, following a search of the apartment, Williams was transported to the police station by D’Antonio.
Once at the station house, D’Antonio took Williams to a small interview room containing a desk and three to four chairs and removed the handcuffs. D’Antonio, in the presence of Kelly, then read Williams, who was “relatively calm,” his Miranda rights, and he signed a form waiving them. Id. at 251. At that point, nearly two hours after Williams had initially been arrested, Kelly left the room and D’Antonio and Santiago proceeded to question him.
According to D’Antonio, Williams then gаve a detailed statement. The statement contained information on a range of incriminating activity in connection with his conspiracy with Smith to buy guns in Alabama, transport them to New York, sell them, and divide the proceeds. During the interrogation, Williams did not ask the officers to stop the questioning, nor did he ask to speak to a lawyer.
When asked at the suppression hearing why he did not administer Williams Miranda warnings before questioning him at the apartment; D’Antonio responded, “Because we were still trying to find who we thought was [‘Alabama’]. We thought [he] would still be around and would lеad to multiple firearms that were not present at that location.” Id. at 244-245. When asked by defense counsel, “I guess what you’re trying to do here is get the guns off the street, right?” D’Antonio responded,
It’s a public safety issue at that point. We had information that there was more than four guns, that there was approximately nine guns. And there was one individual and approximately five guns that were not there, so we were trying to mitigate the exposure to any other violence by trying to locate those additional five guns.
Id. at 301.
D’Antonio further testified that he viewed the station house interrogation as “a separate interview from the one [he] conducted in the apartment,” not as “a continuation” of it:
[T]he interview at the [] station house was the formal interview of Mr. Williams.... That was where we sat down with the individual, advised him of his rights, gave him the opportunity to either waive them or not and to speak with me if he chose to or not at that point.... [The purpose] was also ... to establish evidence against the defendant at that point. And, also, to attempt to locate the individual that the defendant calls Charles Smith. And to try to lоcate him and the additional firearms.
Id. at 317-318.
Following his indictment, Williams moved to suppress his station house confession as the product of a two-step interrogation practice proscribed by
Missouri v. Seibert,
The Government contended in response that D’Antonio had not employed the two-steр technique barred by
Seibert.
It further argued that the public safety exception to
Miranda
justified D’Antonio’s asking immediate questions “aimed at determining whether there had indeed been an additional gun-seller on the premises; whether the people responsible for the firearms that the officers had found [were] among those secured in the apartment or [were] instead elsewhere; and where the additional male they had expected to find was.” J.A. at 404;
see New York v. Quarles,
Initially, the district court offered its view that, while the public safety exception might excuse D’Antonio’s questions about the location of the missing guns and the third trafficker, his inquiry about who owned the guns “stepped outside the public safety exception ... into a situation where the agent [wa]s trying to elicit an incriminating statement.” J.A. at 435. Regardless, the district court
[didn’t] think the record would support a finding that [ ] D’Antonio pursued a deliberate strategy of trying to elicit incriminating statements that he could then use later to cross-examine the defendant after administering Miranda warnings. I don’t see that deliberate strategy.... I didn’t come away with an impression from the [suppression] hearing that [ ] D’Antonio’s conduct here is similar to what was at issue in Seibert, which was a delibеrate policy and strategy of eliciting incriminating statements without Miranda warnings with a plan to then later administer Miranda warnings and elicit those same incriminating statements. I didn’t find that kind of deliberate strategy here.... I don’t think the case is controlled by Seibert.
Id. at 436-437.
Notwithstanding this conclusion, the district court granted defendant’s motion to suppress, concluding that it was “constrained” by this Court’s subsequent decision in Capers to do so:
Capers sets a high standard for the admission of a second-stage confession following a Miranda violation. The implications of the decision are quite broad.... The effect of Capers ... is to take [Seibert ] beyond “the unique and never-again-to-be-repeated circumstances of Seibert,” and to apply it to a much broader category of cases. This result is the consequence of [Capers’s ] ... requirement that law enforcement officers proffer a legitimate reason for not giving Miranda warnings during the first interrogation. While [Sei- bert’s ] test focuses on whether law enforcement officers acted with premeditation to undermine a Miranda warning they planned to give later — a test quite difficult for a defendant to meet — [Capers’s] inquiry turns on whether the decision to forego Miranda warnings is legally justifiable. It is plain from Capers that this will almost never be the case.
Williams,
STANDARD OF REVIEW
We reviеw a district court’s determination regarding the constitutionality of a
Miranda
waiver
de novo,
and its factual findings for clear error, viewing the evidence in the light most favorable to the prevailing party.
United States v. Moore,
DISCUSSION
The Government’s main contention is that the district court erred in suppressing Williams’s station house confession as the product of a deliberate two-step interrogation strategy. In
Seibert,
the Supreme Court found unconstitutional “a police protocol for custodial interrogation that calls for giving no warnings of the rights to silence and counsel until interrogation has producеd a confession.”
[1] the completeness and detail of the questions and answers in the first round of interrogation, [2] the overlapping content of the two statements, [3] the timing and setting of the first and the second, [4] the continuity of police personnel, and [5] the degree to which the interrogator’s questions treated the second round as continuous with the first.
Id.
at 615,
While concurring in the judgment, Justice Kennedy believed the plurality’s “objective inquiry from the perspective of the suspect” — which “applies in the case of both intentional and unintentional two-stage interrogations” — cut too broadly.
Id.
at 621-22,
[a]n officer may not realize that a suspect is in custody and warnings are required. The officer may not plan to question the suspect or may be waiting for a more appropriate time. Skilled investigators often interview suspects multiple times, and good police work *41 may involve referring to prior statements to test their veracity or to refresh recollection.
Id.
at 620,
In
United States v. Carter,
Applying these principles, we hold that the Government has established, in light of the objective and subjective evidence, that D’Antonio did not engage in a deliberate two-step interrogation. There is no subjective evidence that D’Antonio asked Williams about the ownership of the guns, or the location of the missing guns or third gun trafficker, in a way calculated to undermine the Miranda warning given later at the station house. Crucially, the district court, which credited D’Antonio’s testimony, reached the same conclusion prior to our opinion in Capers. See J.A. at 436 (“I don’t think the record would support a finding that [ ] D’Antonio pursued a deliberate strategy of trying to elicit incriminating statements that he could then use later to cross-examine the defendant after administering Miranda warnings.”).
Instead, “public safety considerations plausibly account” for D’Antonio’s limited questioning of Williams at the apartment “in a way that militates against finding that the first interview was a premeditated attempt to
evade Miranda.” Moore,
We are not required to decide whether the public safety exception actually excused this line of questioning. The point is that none of it evinced “a deliberate strategy of trying to elicit incriminating statements that [D’Antonio] could then use later to cross-examine the defendant after administering
Miranda
warnings,” as the district court properly found. J.A. at 436;
see also United States v. Estrada,
In concluding that Williams’s station house confession must nonetheless be suppressed, the district court relied on the mistaken belief that
Capers
changed the focus of the
Seibert
inquiry from whether law enforcement officers acted with premeditation to undermine a
Miranda
warning they planned to give later, to whether the decision to forego
Miranda
warnings was “legally justifiable.”
See Williams, 758
F.Supp.2d at 310. In
Capers,
the defendant was caught in a sting operation stealing money orders from Express Mail envelopes.
something like, look, you know, talk to me or don’t talk to me, I don’t care but I’m telling you right now or I’ll tell you that I’m going to do my best to make you go away, and I just want you to know. And I’ve been watching you all day. I know everything that you did tonight.
Id. at 472 (quotation marks omitted). Without issuing Miranda warnings, the inspector continued to question Capers for around five minutes. Capers incriminated himself and, after being transported to another facility where he was advised of his rights and interviewed again by the same postal inspector, incriminated himself again. At a subsequent suppression hearing, the inspector testified that he did not issue Miranda warnings in the supervisor’s office because he
was in a hurry to track down the missing money orders so that they did not get lost in the large mail-sorting facility and ... needed to question [the other individual], who was held handcuffed outside the supervisor’s office, to determine his level of involvement in the crime.
Id. at 473.
We affirmed the district court’s suppression of both sets of statements. We observed that neither of these reasons justified delaying a
Miranda
warning once it is obvious that a suspect is in custody. In addition, we found the inspector’s proffered reasons for delaying the
Miranda
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warnings not credible.
Capers,
however, does not stand for the proposition that the Government must show that a delay in issuing
Miranda
warnings was for a “legitimate” reason, as the district court erroneously concluded. Rather, after expressly adopting Justice Kennedy’s concurrence in
Seibert, Capers
sets forth the general test that in order to determine deliberateness “a court should review the totality of the objective and subjective evidence surrounding the interrogations.”
Id.
at 479.
Capers
simply counsels that, in reviewing the subjective evidence, “closer scrutiny” should be given to an “investigator’s testimony ... when the proffered rationale is not a ‘legitimate’ reason to delay or where it ‘inherently lacks credibility’ in view of the ‘totality of the circumstances.’ ”
Moore,
[s]uch scrutiny is not ordinarily required when the reason for delay is legitimate, such as officer or cоmmunity safety or when delay is a product of a “rookie mistake,” miscommunication, or “a momentary lapse in judgment.” Moreover, if it is found, after weighing the investigator’s credibility, that the investigator’s intent was not “calculated ... to undermine Miranda,” delay will not require exclusion of the later, warned statement even if the court finds that the delay was for an illegitimate reason and even in the absence of curative measures.
Id.
(emphasis added) (citations omitted) (quoting
Capers,
That is what happened here: The district court found D’Antonio’s reasons for questioning Williams about ownership of the guns “illegitimate” under
Capers,
because the questioning was neither justified by the public safety exception, nor explained by a “rookie mistake.”
See Williams,
On this point,
Moore
is instructive. There, we affirmed the district court’s denial of a motion to suppress second-stage statements where an officer had previously asked a defendant — known to have been involved in a shooting incident from which no gun was recovered — where the gun was. As here, the district court ruled that the public safety exception did not excuse the officer’s failure to give
Miranda
warnings at the initial interview. Nevertheless, we held, “public safety considerations plausibly accounted] for the conduct of the police in a way that militates against finding that the first interview was a premeditated attempt to
evade Miranda.”
rested on a lack of exigent circumstances, not on any adverse credibility finding regarding the testimony of [the officer]. Although [the officer’s] stated public safety rationale was insufficient to render Moore’s first statement admissible under the public safety exception to Miranda, it was sufficient, “in light of the totality of the circumstances,” to show that [the officer] did not intend to circumvent Miranda with this unwarned questioning. Under Capers, therefore— even in the absence of one of the recognized “legitimate” reasons for delaying Miranda warnings — [the officer’s] ratio *44 nale does not bar admission of the second warned, statement, regardless of whether curative measures were undertaken.
Id.
at 231 n. 5 (emphasis added) (citations omitted) (quoting
Capers,
The objective evidence also weighs against a finding of deliberateness. In reviewing that evidence, we are guided by, but not limited to, the five factors identified by the plurality in
Seibert. Id.
at 230.
First,
the questions and answers in the first round of interrogation were neither complete nor detailed. D’Antonio asked a total of three questions to which Williams responded with a sole incriminating rеsponse: that he owned the four guns. The two-stage interrogation strategy described in
Seibert,
by contrast, was “systematic, exhaustive, and managed with psychological skill,” leaving “little, if anything, of incriminating potential left unsaid.”
Sei-bert,
Second,
Williams’s statements at the apartment and at the station house did not “appreciably overlap.”
Moore,
Third, although there was some continuity of personnel between the apartment and the station house — namely, D’Antonio, Kelly, and Santiago — the timing and setting of the first and second statements do not suggest deliberate use of a two-step technique. 4 The initial questioning took *45 place during the execution of a warrant in a residential setting and was spontaneous and somewhat frenzied. D’Antonio questioned Williams almost immediately upоn entry, just after it had been secured by NYPD personnel. Moments later, D’Antonio requested an ambulance after one of the women in the apartment was found shaking in the kitchen. An hour-long search of the premises followed. The second interrogation took place in a small room at the station house almost two hours later. In contrast to the atmosphere in the apartment, at the station house Williams was calmly seated across a table from D’Antonio and Santiago, un-cuffed, and volunteered a full confession.
Fourth,
none of D’Antonio’s questions, and nothing in the record, indicates that he treated the second round as continuous with the first. The quintessential two-step technique involves a suspect’s “hearing warnings only in the aftermath of interrogation and just after making a confession,” with the police “leading] him over the same ground again.”
Seibert,
For these reasons, we conclude that the Government has met its burden of demonstrating that it did not engage in a deliberate two-step process intended to undermine Williams’s Fifth Amendment rights.
Finally, we conclude that Williams’s statements were provided voluntarily and free of coercion.
Elstad,
CONCLUSION
The order of the district court suppressing defendant’s station house confession is reversed and the case remanded for further proceedings consistent with this opinion.
Notes
. Williams is chargеd with conspiracy to engage in unlicensed dealing of firearms, see 18 U.S.C. §§ 371, 922(a)(1)(A), 922(a)(5), possession of a firearm after a felony conviction, see id. § 922(g)(1), and unlawful transportation of firearms, see id. § 922(a)(5).
. The Government does not appeal the exclusion of Williams’s statement in the Bronx apartment acknowledging ownership of the four guns recovered there.
.
Elstad
involved an accidental or mistaken interrogation in violation of
Miranda. See
.
Compare Seibert,
