Wendell Nance, Sr., and his son Wendell Nance, Jr. (nicknamed “Ardell”), were charged and convicted for conspiring to distribute crack cocaine, in violation of 21 U.S.C. §§ 846 and 841(a)(1). Ardell chose to plead guilty, but Wendell’s case went to trial before a jury. Only Wendell has appealed. Initially, he challenged only two aspects of his sentence, but with the permission of this court, he added an argument that his sentence of 262 months was unlawful under the Supreme Court’s recent decision in
Apprendi v. New Jersey,
I
The underlying facts are typical of the many cocaine conspiracy cases that reach this court. The two Nances moved to DuQuoin, Illinois, a small town north of Carbondale, in late February 1998. Over the next month, they participated with several others in a cocaine distribution operation. Wendell, along with Ardell and co-conspirators David Jones and Dexter Dunklin, made a number of trips to St. Louis, Missouri, to purchase crack cocaine for redistribution in DuQuoin. On two such trips, Ardell and Jones obtained money from Wendell for the purchases, and upon their return they gave Wendell his share of the drugs. Jones testified that Ardell purchased between $ ounce (3.5 grams) and % ounce (7 grams) on each trip. After Ardell’s arrest on March 25, 1998, Jones and Wendell made two more trips to St. Louis to purchase more crack cocaine. Other evidence suggested that the total number of trips was at least seven, and apparently many more than that.
While in DuQuoin, Wendell lived in Gy-nelle Ledbetter’s apartment. Not only did he also store his crack there, but he also made no secret of that fact. Ledbetter testified that on one occasion, he was in her residence with two large rocks of crack cocaine. She described one of them ‘ as approximately the size of a golf ball, and the other as slightly smaller. Wendell cut the smaller rock into 27 resale portions. Another witness, Shirley Horner (Ledbet-ter’s sister), also testified that she saw Wendell with a golf ball-sized chunk of crack cocaine at Ledbetter’s apartment.
At the trial, Ardell testified that in late March Wendell told him to go to his grandmother’s house in Kansas to retrieve an SKS assault rifle. He explained that Wendell was concerned that the success of his new crack business might attract the attention of thieves. On his way back from Kansas, with the rifle in his possession, Ardell stopped in St. Louis to buy more cocaine for himself and Wendell. Once back in DuQuoin, Ardell stored the rifle at Phyllis Woody’s trailer, which was just a block from Ledbetter’s apartment. Wendell demonstrated that he knew where the rifle was located when, a short time later, he went to retrieve it and took it back to the Ledbetter apartment to break up an argument between David and Diane Jones. His methods were not too subtle: he pointed the rifle at the two troublemakers and threatened to shoot them, and he then threatened to shoot everyone. No one was shot, however, and afterwards Ledbetter and David Jones took the rifle and hid it in a storage locker in town.
Eventually Ardell was arrested, and then the conspiracy unraveled as far as Wendell was concerned. The two were *823 charged under a simple indictment that read as follows:
THE GRAND JURY CHARGES:
From on or about March 1,1998, to on or about April 7, 1998, in Perry County, within the Southern District of Illinois,
WENDELL NANCE, SR., a/k/a Wendell Simmons, and WENDELL NANCE, JR.,
defendants herein, did conspire and agree with each other and with others known and unknown to the Grand Jury, to knowingly and intentionally distribute a mixture and substance containing cocaine base, commonly known as crack cocaine, a Schedule II, narcotic controlled substance, in violation of Title 21, United States Code, Sections 846 and 841(a)(1).
Notably, although this particular indictment did identify the type of drug the defendants were accused of conspiring to distribute, it said nothing about the drug quantity.
At the sentencing stage, the two principal issues concerned the proper calculation of the quantity of crack cocaine for which Wendell was to be held responsible, see U.S.S.G. § 1B1.3 and Application Note 2, ¶ 6, and the question whether the 2-level offense level increase for possession of a dangerous weapon should be imposed, see U.S.S.G. § 2Dl.l(b)(l). The court concluded that the amount fell between 50 grams and 150 grams of crack, which gave a starting offense level of 32 under § 2D1.1 (c)(4). In doing so, it relied principally on a proffer statement that Ardell gave that estimated the total quantity as somewhere between 50 and 150 grams — an estimate that the presentence report also relied upon. The court also found, based on the testimony about the SKS rifle, that the 2-level enhancement was indeed called for, which gave a final offense level of 34. Wendell’s criminal history category was VI; the prescribed Sentencing Guidelines range was therefore 262-327 months; and his final sentence as noted was 262 months to be followed by five years of supervised release.
II
The most important question now before us concerns the effect of Apprendi on Wendell’s conviction and sentence. We therefore address it first, and then we turn to the points he has raised concerning only his sentence.
The issue that the Court addressed in
Apprendi
— whether a particular fact should be regarded as an element of the offense (and hence as something that must be charged in the indictment, submitted to the jury, and proven by the government beyond a reasonable doubt), or merely as a sentencing factor — was not a new one for the Court, even though it expressed the governing principles in
Apprendi
with greater clarity and more unequivocally than it had done in prior cases. We reviewed the line of cases that had led up to
Apprendi
in
United States v. Smith,
Indeed, as far back as 1997 defendants were arguing to this court that the type of drug that they were charged with distributing in violation of 21 U.S.C. § 841 was an element of the offense that had to be proven to the jury beyond a reasonable doubt. In
United States v. Edwards,
Under the circumstances, we conclude that Wendell forfeited his right to argue that the quantity of drugs involved should have been charged in the indictment and proved beyond a reasonable doubt. Our review at this stage is therefore only for plain error. Under
Johnson v. United States,
Although we have found it unnecessary in a number of cases to decide whether
Apprendi
effectively overruled our holding in
Jackson
that drug type and quantity are sentencing factors, see, e.g.,
United States v. Cavender,
We are not the first circuit to consider the question whether defendants may be subjected to an enhanced sentence based on drug type and quantity, as provided in § 841(b), without charging and proving those facts. More importantly, our sister circuits have thus far unanimously concluded that
Apprendi
means that they may not. See
United States v. Rogers,
We agree with our sister circuits that
Apprendi
indeed requires us to overrule that part of our
Jackson
decision that concluded that drug quantities under § 841(b) are always a sentencing factor. By the same token, however, as we have indicated in cases like
Talbott,
Granting that the failure to take these steps was an error, we must now decide whether that error requires us to vacate Wendell’s sentence and to remand the case for resentencing, or if this is the kind of error subject to harmless error analysis. Two aspects of this case convince us that reversal is not required. First, as we have already noted, Wendell failed to preserve his objection to the indictment and to the fact that the drug quantity issue was not presented to the jury, and thus our review is for plain error. Second, even if it were not plain error, we would still need to consider whether this was a harmless error under
Neder v. United States,
The list in
Neder
of errors not subject to harmless error analysis is a short one, as the Court itself emphasized. See
For plain error purposes, even if we grant that an error was made (as we have found), and we grant that the error
*826
was “plain” and affected the defendant’s substantial rights (by increasing the sentence by 22 months), we must still decide whether it seriously affected the “fairness, integrity, or public reputation of the judicial proceedings.”
Johnson v. United States,
If this jury was going to convict Wendell at all — which it plainly did — there is simply no way on this record that it could have failed to find that he was conspiring to distribute 5 grams or more of crack cocaine. One does not need to find that the district court’s assessment that approximately 102 grams was involved was accurate beyond a reasonable doubt to reach this conclusion. Almost any piece of evidence tending to prove the conspiracy standing alone would have done the job. Ardell, for example, testified that on his first trip to St. Louis he purchased % ounce (7 grams) and % ounce (1.75 grams) of crack. David Jones testified to at least four trips to St. Louis to purchase drugs for the conspiracy, and he said that Ardell bought between 3.5 grams and 7 grams on each trip, for a total of 14 to 28 grams. Agent Dueker’s estimates of the amounts the defendants handled included one single occasion where an entire ounce, or 28 grams, was purchased, as well as several other occasions where lesser amounts (still above 5 grams) were involved. Reviewing this record as a whole, we are satisfied that the stringent Neder standard has been met, and that this jury would have found Wendell guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of a crime involving 5 grams or more of crack cocaine. The error did not seriously affect the public integrity, fairness, or reputation of these proceedings, and thus we will not upset the verdict on plain error review.
Ill
Last, we touch briefly on the sentencing points that formed the original basis of Wendell’s appeal. He argues that the district court should not have given him a two point increase in his sentencing level for using a weapon in connection with the conspiracy, as required by U.S.S.G. § 2Dl.l(b)(l), and that it erred in determining the amount of crack cocaine for which he could be sentenced. We consider both these arguments under the clear error standard of review.
The weapons enhancement is required “[i]f a dangerous weapon (including a firearm) was possessed” in connection with the offense. Here, the government argued that Wendell and his coconspirators possessed the SKS assault rifle that Ardell had fetched from his grandmother’s house in connection with the conspiracy. The district court agreed, and we find no clear error in its decision. Ardell had the weapon in his possession when he and Dexter stopped to purchase crack in St. Louis; Wendell himself brought the gun from Phyllis Woody’s trailer to Ledbetter’s apartment, the center of the conspiracy’s operations; and Dexter testified that Wendell admitted that he wanted to use the weapon to protect himself in case the drug operation got out of hand. This is more than enough evidence to support the district court’s finding.
Even without the Apprendi issue, the court’s finding that a quantity of 102 grams was involved remains important, as this is what determines the initial offense level for purposes of § 2Dl.l(c) of the Sentencing Guidelines. The district court was entitled to credit Ardell’s proffer statement, in which Ardell estimated the amount to be somewhere between 50 and 150 grams. In addition, there was other evidence supporting this range. Apart from the proffer statement, Ardell testified that during the course of a five-week period he traveled to St. Louis every two or three days to purchase crack. This *827 amounts to at least 42 grams by itself, if we assume only every three days and the smaller amount of 3.6 grams per trip (instead of 7, as it might have been). Other conspirators made similar trips, as did Wendell himself, which easily took the total over the 50 gram mark. There was no clear error in the court’s decision to accept the 102 gram number, which was the one used in the Presentence Report, and to rely on the evidence before it.
For these reasons, we AffiRM the judgment of the district court.
Notes
. Because this holding overrules part of our earlier decision in
United States v. Jackson,
