Petitioner-Appellant Raymond Torres is currently imprisoned in a federal prison in New Mexico for offenses related to a conspiracy to distribute methamphetamine. Torres, appearing pro se, challenges procedural and substantive rulings the United States District Court for the Western District of Oklahoma made concerning his “petition for writ of error coram nobis and/or petition for writ of audita querela.”
In the petition, which he filed on January 16, 2001, Torres alleged that his sentence and conviction were unconstitutional in light of the Supreme Court’s decision in
Apprendi v. New Jersey,
Having laid out this analytic framework, the district court reasoned that it could dispose of Torres’s petition in either one of two ways:
[T]he Court can either treat [Torres’s] petition as a petition for a writ of error coram nobis or for a writ of audita que-rela, in which case his petition must be dismissed for lack of subject matter jurisdiction, or the Court can recharacterize the petition as a motion to vacate, set aside or correct sentence pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 2255, in which event the Court will transfer the motion to the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1631 [for authorization to file a second § 2255 petition],
(Id. at 2-3.) The court then invited Torres to specify within ten days “whether or not he agrees to recharacterization of his petition(s) as a motion filed pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 2255.” 2 (Id. at 3.)
As best we can discern, the next correspondence between Torres and the district court occurred on April 9, 2001, when Torres filed a motion to supplement his “co-ram nobis and/or audita querela” petition. The district court, in a one paragraph order, denied Torres’s motion on April 12, 2001, “as moot inasmuch as the Court denied Defendant’s petition for these writs by Order entered January 22, 2001.” (April 12 Order.) A little over two months later, Torres nonetheless submitted his supplemental petition to the district court; the court subsequently struck that petition on June 15, 2001.
On July 30, 2001, Torres filed a motion pursuant to Rule 4(a)(6) of the Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure requesting that the district court “reopen the time to appeal” the January 22 and April 12 orders. In the documents accompanying his motion, Torres alleged that he did not receive the court’s January 22 order until July 24, 2001, and that he received it then only because his sister had contacted the clerk of the court and inquired about the status of the “coram nobis and/or audita querela” petition. On August 17, 2001, the district court rejected Torres’s request to reopen the time to appeal, holding that Torres had failed to file his motion to reopen within the 180 day period required under Rule 4(a)(6). (Aug. 17 Order at 2.) Torres then appealed to this court.
In his appeal, Torres raises three issues. First, he contends that the district court abused its discretion under Rule 4(a)(6) by denying his motion to reopen the time for appeal. (Aplt. Br. at 7-8.) Second, and closely related to his first argument, Torres alleges that his appeal should be considered timely because the district court violated Rule 58 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure by not entering a separate judgment denying his “coram nobis and/or audita querela” petition. Third, he argues that the district court erred in reclassifying the “coram nobis and/or audita quere-la” petition as a § 2255 petition.
We need not reach Torres’s Rule 4(a)(6) argument because we agree that the district court never entered a proper judgement under Rule 58, which provides that a “judgment is effective only when” “set forth on a separate document.”
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Fed.
*1244
R.Civ.P. 58. In
Clough v. Rush,
In the present case, it is clear that the district court’s January 22 order could not act as a “judgment” for Rule 58 purposes, for it left “some uncertainty about whether final judgment ha[d] entered.”
Id.
at 185. As our discussion above demonstrates, the district court’s January 22 order never identified the final disposition of Torres’s petition. Indeed, the order explicitly left open the possibility that Torres’s “coram nobis and/or audita querela” petition might be disposed of on the merits, or, alternatively, recharacterized as a § 2255 petition and transferred to this court under 28 U.S.C. § 1631.
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Cf. In re Durability, Inc.,
Torres may, however, waive the Rule 58 violation and ask this court to consider his appeal timely,
Clough,
The heart of Torres’s argument is that the district court violated his “due process rights” and “abused its discretion” by recasting his petition for “writ of coram no-bis and/or writ audita querela” as a § 2255 petition. (Aplt. Br. at 10.) If we were to review his petition under the legal standards for coram nobis and audita querela, he alleges, we would conclude that his sentence and conviction are unconstitutional in the wake of the Supreme Court’s Apprendi decision. At its core, Torres’s argument centers around the alleged fail *1245 ure of the government to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he possessed “D-methamphetamine.” (Aplt. Br. at 11.) We find Torres’s claims unpersuasive for two reasons.
First, assuming for the sake of argument that the district court mistakenly reclassified his petition, Torres cannot obtain the relief he desires through coram nobis or audita querela writs.
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As courts have explained, a prisoner may not challenge a sentence or conviction for which he is currently in custody through a writ of coram nobis.
See, e.g., United States v. Carpenter,
Alternatively, we do not believe that the district court acted incorrectly by rechar-acterizing Torres’s motion as a § 2255 petition, assuming, as Torres claims, this is what the district court did. In recent years, we have explained that district courts should not sua sponte recharacterize a prisoner’s petition for post-conviction relief as a § 2255 petition. We have reached this conclusion “largely out of concern that a subsequent § 2255 motion would be considered successive” and barred under AEDPA except “in very limited circumstances.”
United States v. Kelly,
We have made these rulings, however, in cases where the recharacterized petition would have been the petitioner’s
first
§ 2255 petition.
See Kelly,
Because Torres did not obtain leave from this court pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 2244(b)(3)(A) before filing his successive § 2255 petition, the district court, as its January 22 order indicated, lacked subject matter jurisdiction over his claim and properly refused to grant Torres relief.
Lopez,
Accordingly, we AFFIRM the district court’s denial of relief and DENY the implied application for leave to file a second § 2255 petition. Nonetheless, we ■ grant Torres’s motion to proceed in forma pau-peris on this appeal. 9
Notes
. The district court also denied Torres’s request for conditional release in the same order. For the reasons discussed below we affirm this denial.
. We recognize that Torres claims he did not receive timely notice of this offer.
. Rule 4(a)(1)(B) of the Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure states, “When the United States or its officer or agency is a party, the notice of appeal may be filed by any party within 60 days after the judgment or order appealed from is entered.” Rule 4(a)(7) provides that “[a] judgment or order is entered for purposes of Rule 4(a) when it is entered in compliance with Rules 58 and 79(a) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.” Therefore, if Rule 58 is not complied with, the *1244 period for filing an appeal will not begin to run.
. Under either alternative, the district court indicated that it could not grant Torres relief.
. Although the district court’s subsequent April 12 order indicated that the January 22 order had disposed of Torres's petition, it never expressly explained whether the petition had been reclassified as a § 2255 petition, nor did it enter a Rule 58 judgment. Torres assumes that the district court disposed of his case as if it had been brought under § 2255, but we this is not entirely clear from the record.
. Writs of audita querela and coram nobis "are similar, but not identical.”
United States v. Reyes,
. Quite possibly, by giving Torres ten days to respond (o the possible recharacterization, the district court complied with Kelly 's second exception. However, because Torres claims he never received timely notice of the district court's orders, we assume that the *1246 second exception has not been met in this case.
. Section 2255 provides in relevant part:
A second or successive motion must be certified as provided in section 2244 by a panel of the appropriate court of appeals to con-tato'—
(1) newly discovered evidence that ... would be sufficient to establish by clear and convincing evidence that no reasonable fact-finder would have found the movant guilty of the offense; or
(2) a new rule of constitutional law, made retroactive to cases on collateral review by the Supreme Court, that was previously unavailable.
28 U.S.C. § 2255. Section 2244(b)(3)(A), in turn, mandates: "Before a second or successive application ... is filed in the district court, the applicant shall move in the appropriate court of appeals for an order authorizing the district court to consider the application.”
. Torres also filed with this court an Application for Certificate of Appealability (COA). However, a COA was not required under either of the district court’s alternative dispositions (e.g., denial of relief sought under the All Writs Act or reclassification and transfer to this court under 28 U.S.C. § 1631 for possible certification under 28 U.S.C. § 2244(b)(3)(A)).
See United States v. Barrett,
