Thomas Hinton appeals from his conviction for possession with intent to distribute cocaine base in violation of 21 U.S.C. § 841(a)(1). Hinton contends the District Court erroneously permitted the Government to offer as evidence out-of-court statements made by a witness he never had an opportunity to cross-examine, depriving him of his Sixth Amendment right to confrontation.
This case requires us to determine whether the challenged statements were “testimonial,” as that term is used in
Crawford v. Washington,
I.
Around 4 a.m. on the morning of August 5, 2001, a 911 operator received a call from a man later identified as Thomas Mack. Mack claimed that an unknown person *357 brandishing a gun confronted him on the 600 block of North Brooklyn Street in West Philadelphia and warned him not to return to the area.
Police Officers Brian Dillard and Albert Cain were dispatched to the called-in location. Mack joined the officers in their squad car and they drove around the area looking for the assailant. On the block where Mack had been threatened, they spotted Hinton and an unknown companion. Mack pointed to the two men and stated “There you go.”
The police approached in their vehicle, and the two men immediately fled. Officer Cain left his car in pursuit of Hinton. While giving chase, he observed Hinton drop an object that he later testified appeared to be a gun. Officer Cain eventually caught up with Hinton and arrested him. A subsequent search revealed that Hinton was carrying thirty-seven packets of crack cocaine along with $120, much of it in five-dollar bills. Officers Cain and Dillard searched the area Hinton had fled and found a loaded handgun near where Cain observed him dropping an object. A second handgun was found near the area where Hinton’s companion, who was never apprehended or identified, had fled.
Hinton was indicted for possession with intent to distribute cocaine base in violation of 21 U.S.C. § 841(a)(1), possession of a firearm in furtherance of a drug trafficking crime in violation of 21 U.S.C. § 924(c), and possession of a firearm by a convicted felon in violation of 21 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1). Mack did not testify at Hinton’s trial. The government never asserted he was unavailable to testify. But the government sought to introduce Mack’s statements through the testimony of Officers Dillard and Cain and the 911 recording. Hinton objected, citing the Confrontation Clause of the Sixth Amendment to the Constitution. See U.S. Const., amend. VI, cl. 3. The District Court ruled that Mack’s statements were admissible under the excited utterance exception to the hearsay rule, see Fed.R.Evid. 803(2), but did not specifically address Hinton’s Confrontation Clause argument.
The jury convicted Hinton of possession with intent to distribute cocaine base but acquitted him of both firearms charges. He was sentenced to 216 months in prison. Hinton filed a timely appeal. We exercise jurisdiction under 28 U.S.C. § 1291.
II.
After Hinton’s conviction, the Supreme Court decided
Crawford v. Washington,
In so doing, the Court partially overruled
Ohio v. Roberts,
Thus, a “testimonial” statement is inadmissible absent a showing that the declarant is unavailable and the defendant had a prior opportunity for cross-examination, “regardless of whether the statement at issue falls within a firmly rooted hearsay exception or has a particularized guarantee of trustworthiness.”
United States v. Hendricks,
The Court’s use of the term “testimonial” as a limitation on admission of out-of-court statements derives from its definition of a “witness,” as that term is used in the Sixth Amendment. The Sixth Amendment grants the accused in a criminal trial the right “to be confronted with the witnesses against him.” The term “witnesses,” the Court found in
Crawford,
embraces all those who “bear testimony,” whether at trial or outside the courtroom.
Crawford,
Although the Court expressly declined to “spell out a comprehensive definition” of “testimonial,”
id.
at 68,
*359
Without endorsing one specific definition,
Cratvford
also referenced three different “formulations of this core class of ‘testimonial’ statements”: 1)
“ex parte
in-court testimony or its functional equivalent — that is, material such as affidavits, custodial examinations, prior testimony that the defendant was unable to cross-examine, or similar pretrial statements that declarants would reasonably expect to be used prosecutorially,”
id.
at 51,
In the wake of
Crawford,
courts have grappled with the meaning of testimonial hearsay. In
United States v. Hendricks,
we explored the admissibility of surreptitiously recorded conversations involving several defendants and a confidential informant.
Hendricks did not require us to settle upon a definition of testimonial. But underpinning our discussion of surreptitiously recorded conversations was an appreciation of the third formulation of “testimonial” offered by the Court in Craioford: “statements that were made under circumstances which would lead an objective witness reasonably to believe that the statement would be available for use at a later trial.” In many instances, statements made to authorities for use in investigating and prosecuting a crime constitute the type of statements which lie at the core of the concern expressed by the Confrontation Clause.
In these kinds of cases, we believe application of Crawford’s third and broadest formulation of “testimonial” will ensure compliance with the Confrontation Clause. We find the Sixth Circuit’s reasoning instructive:
[This] broader definition “is necessary to ensure that the adjudicative system does not effectively invite witnesses to testify in informal ways that avoid confrontation.” The Crawford Court found the absence of an oath not to be determinative in considering whether a statement is testimonial.... [T]he danger to a defendant might well be greater if the statement introduced at trial, without a right of confrontation, is a statement volunteered to police rather than a statement elicited through formalized *360 police interrogation. One can imagine the temptation that someone who bears a grudge might have to volunteer to police, truthfully or not, information of the commission of a crime, especially when that person is assured he will not be subject to confrontation.... If the judicial system only requires cross-examination when someone has formally served as a witness against a defendant, then witnesses and those who deal with them will have every incentive to ensure that testimony is given informally.
United States v. Cromer,
The Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit has reasoned similarly, finding that “the
[Crawford
] Court would use the reasonable expectation of the declarant as the anchor of a more concrete definition of testimony.”
United States v. Saget,
Accordingly, statements made under circumstances that would lead an objective witness reasonably to believe that the statement would be available for use at a later trial are testimonial. In the absence of a showing that the declarant is unavailable and that the defendant had an opportunity for cross-examination, admission of such statements will violate the Confrontation Clause of the Sixth Amendment.
III.
Hinton contends that Mack’s identification of Hinton while in the police *361 cruiser was testimonial under Crawford. We agree. Mack’s statement falls within Crawford’s third formulation of testimony — statements that would lead an objective witness reasonably to believe the statement would be available for use at trial.
Mack positively identified Hinton as his assailant to two police officers, while riding in a police cruiser in pursuit of the suspect. Mack made the statement with knowledge that the officers were acting in their official capacity and investigating the reported crime. An “objective witness” reasonably would have believed that his identification (and accusation) to the police in this context served the purpose of incriminating Hinton and would be available for use at trial.
2
Cf. Pugh,
Mack’s statement constitutes testimony under Craiuford. Because there was no showing that Mack was unavailable and that Hinton had an opportunity to cross examine him, its admission was error.
IV.
Hinton also challenges the admission of Mack’s 911 telephone call, which was played for the jury. 3 Hinton argues the telephone call is testimonial under Crawford and should not have been admitted.
The most likely reason for a 911 call is for health or safety, seeking assistance for the caller or other parties. But there may be other reasons to make a 911 call, such as providing information to aid in the investigation and potential prosecution of a crime.
We find less helpful
Crawford’s
third formulation of “testimonial” in the context of Mack’s call to 911. Generally 911 calls do not provide detailed information about the caller. Often 911 callers remain anonymous, confounding the court’s ability to draw conclusions about whether an objective witness in similar circumstances would have intended to bear testimony. To the extent information is known, it is often that the caller is the victim of a crime, seeking police assistance.
See, e.g., Leavitt v. Arave,
Nor do the other
Crawford
formulations of “testimonial” seem to fit Mack’s statements. Mack’s statements made during the 911 call neither fall within nor are analogous to any of the specific examples of testimonial statements mentioned in
Crawford.
Mack’s statements in his call were neither prior testimony at a preliminary hearing, prior testimony before a grand jury, prior testimony at a former trial, nor a police interrogation.
See Crawford,
In our view, Mack’s statements during the 911 call were non-testimonial and their admission, therefore, was not error.
V.
Our conclusion, however, does not end the analysis. Because the decision to admit Mack’s statements in the police cruiser was “simply an error in the trial process itself’ rather than a “structural defect affecting the framework within which the trial proceeds,” we may affirm if the error was harmless.
See Arizona v. Fulminante,
As the government points out, Hinton was acquitted on both firearms charges. Therefore, we must determine what impact the erroneous admission of Mack’s statements had on the jury’s decision to convict Hinton for drug possession with intent to distribute. If we conclude beyond a reasonable doubt that the jury verdict on the charge for possession with intent to distribute would have been the same — had Mack’s statements not been admitted- — - then we must affirm the conviction.
Mack never stated that he had observed drugs on Hinton or suspected him to be engaged in selling drugs. The only evidence presented was that Hinton, when arrested, was found with thirty-seven packets of crack cocaine as well as numerous five-dollar bills. A government expert, Philadelphia Police Detective Christopher Lee, testified that such a large number of packets is strong evidence of dealing rather than simple possession, and that five dollars is the going price for a packet of crack.
Nonetheless, Hinton argues that, because Detective Lee testified that sellers of drugs frequently carry firearms, Mack’s testimony may have contributed to the jury’s decision to convict Hinton for drug possession with intent to distribute rather than simple possession. We disagree. There was credible evidence that Hinton was carrying a gun, as two separate firearms were found at the scene and Officer Cain testified that he observed Hinton drop an object that appeared to be a gun.
Furthermore, we do not believe the same jury that acquitted Hinton of the two gun charges nonetheless convicted him of drug possession with intent to distribute based on its belief that Hinton was carry *363 ing a gun. As Detective Lee testified, gun possession is simply one indicator of drug dealing. Other evidence provided much stronger support for the prosecution’s contention that Hinton was a drug seller rather than a mere drug user. Thirty-seven packets of cocaine together with $120 in small bills were more than sufficient to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Hinton possessed drugs with the intent to distribute. Therefore, admission of Mack’s statements was harmless error.
VI.
Hinton challenges his sentence under
United States v. Booker,
543 U.S. -,
VII.
For the reasons set forth, we will affirm Hinton’s judgment of conviction. We will vacate his sentence and remand for resen-tencing.
Notes
. As we held in
United States v. Trala,
testimonial statements are admissible without prior cross-examination if they are not offered for their truth.
See
.See Lopez v. State,
. As a practical matter, the 911 call was less significant in light of Mack’s live testimony in the police cruiser.
. In exceptional circumstances there may be specific information bearing upon the caller’s motive to bear testimony that might make application of
Crawford’s
third formulation appropriate.
See, e.g., Cromer,
. In a recent decision, the Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit held that statements made during a 911 call were non-testimonial.
See United States v. Brun,
