Lead Opinion
This is a reconsideration en bane of a panel decision reported under the same name,
It is urged upon us in the petition that the Supreme Court’s “grave doubts”, Watts v. United States,
A threat against the President may cause substantial harm and is qualitatively different from a threat against a private citizen or other public official. A President not only has a personal interest in his own security, as does everyone, he also has a public duty not to allow himself to be unnecessarily exposed to danger. A President’s death in office has worldwide repercussions and affects the security and future of the entire nation. The President and his advisors would therefore be irresponsible if they ignored apparently serious threats against the President’s life.
If a threat is made in a context or under such circumstances wherein it appears that it is a serious threat, and the President or his advisors are made aware of the existence of the threat, then the threat would tend to have a restrictive effect upon the free exercise of Presidential responsibilities, regardless of whether the person making the threat actually intends to assault the President and regardless of whether there is any actual danger to the President. Thus, even though the maker of the threat does not have an actual intention to assault the President, an apparently serious threat may cause the mischief or evil toward which the statute was in part directed. (Emphasis added.)
Id. at 877.
It was in this context that the Ninth Circuit opinion contained the statement: “The statute does not require that the defendant actually intend to carry out the threat.” Id. at 878.
Our panel decision in this case is not to the contrary.
This case does not involve the communication, or attempted communication, by a defendant of his threat to the President. Accordingly, we do not here consider what intent requirement may be effective to accomplish an insulation of the President from threats of violence to his person and also be in accordance with the wording of Section 871(a). We hold that where, as in Patillo’s case, a true threat against the person of the President is uttered without communication to the President intended, the threat can form a basis for conviction under the terms of Section 871(a) only if made with a present intention to do injury to the President.
United States v. Patillo,
United States v. Compton,
We agree with both circuits that the statute was designed to prevent a secondary evil other than actual assaults upon the President or incitement to assault the President, and that it is a legitimate area of congressional concern to prevent and make criminal disruption of presidential activity and movement that may result simply from publication of an apparent threat upon the President’s life. When a threat is published with an intent to disrupt presidential ac
But for the reasons stated in the majority opinion of the panel,
As to Patillo’s case which is quite different from Roy’s and Compton’s, we adhere to the panel decision,
Dissenting Opinion
I would affirm the conviction.
I think we have succeeded only in getting ourselves amidst a tempest of semantics, and that substantively the test applied by the District Court was the one the majority prescribes. I could accept substantially all that the majority says, if its conclusion were only for af-firmance.
Of course the apparent intention test was misapplied when it was held to include statements made in jest and the obvious hyperbole. Subsequent correetion of earlier misapplications of the test, however, ought not to require reversal of a conviction obtained when the proper test was correctly applied.
We deal here with a true threat, as the majority readily concedes. There is nothing in the relation between the two guards, or in any of the surrounding circumstances, in the words that were spoken, or in the manner in which they were spoken containing the slightest suggestion of a jest. For all that appears, the words were spoken in deadly seriousness.
If the author of such a threat is to be halted on the basis of a commission of an offense prior to the time of an actual attempt to execute the threat, when the gun barrel is aimed at the President and the finger is on the trigger, his intention at the time the threat is made must be judged on the basis of the words, themselves, in the context in which they are spoken or written. It is simply an objective standard for measuring the defendant’s intention. It is, in- short, what the majority says should be done in the ultimate paragraph of the supplementary opinion.
That is to me, however, the “apparent intention” test. The trier-of-fact looks at the words, the context in which they were spoken, including the reaction of the listeners, to determine the apparent! intention of the speaker at the time off the true threat.
What the majority would have the District Court do on a retrial has already been done. The words were not considered by the District Court in isolation, but in their full context; and it has been determined that, in that light, the words were a manifestation of a present intention to kill the President. The trial judge’s use of the word “apparent” in referring to the defendant’s intention appears to me to have meant no more than that his intention was being appraised by objective criteria, which, indeed were the only criteria available.
Nor can I agree that the majority has adequately distinguished Roy v. United States, 9 Cir.,
For such reasons, I respectfully dissent.
WINTER, Circuit Judge, authorizes me to state that he concurs in the views I have expressed.
Notes
The two were only casually acquainted. There wras nothing in their relationship to lead the defendant to believe the other would respect the communications as confidential.
Dissenting Opinion
For the reasons I expressed in my dissent to the panel opinion in this case,
