Robert John Evans appeals from a judgment of conviction entered against him on March 27, 1973, in the Southern District of New York after a three-day jury trial before the Honorable Dudley B. Bonsai, United States District Judge. The indictment, filed August 16, 1972, charged Evans in one count with robbing the First National City Bank, located at 130 East 42nd Street, in New York City, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 2113(a). The jury found the defendant guilty, and sentence was imposed by Judge Bonsai of eight years imprisonment under 18 U.S.C. § 4208(a)(2). The defendant, who is currently serving his sentence, appeals on two grounds: first that the three eyewitnesses to the robbery who identified him at trial were incompetent so to testify, or alternatively that their testimony was the product of impermissible pre-trial identification procedures and hence inadmissible, 1 *and secondly that the trial court’s failure specifically to instruct the jury on the dangers of eyewitness identification was reversible error. We find that these contentions are without merit, and we accordingly affirm the conviction.
The First National City Bank at 130 East 42nd Street in Manhattan was robbed at about 11:30 A.M. on July 28, 1972. The robber had been standing in line for some minutes waiting to reach the teller’s window. When he reached the window, he thrust a folded piece of paper on the counter in front of the teller, Janice Weber. Miss Weber looked up at the man, unfolded and read the note, which stated, “This is a holdup your 100’s, 50’s, 20’s Don’t stall My Partner will start shooting. Don’t faint or I’ll shoot.” Miss Weber handed over $2665 in currency to the robber. She placed the bills on the counter, looked up again and watched the man who had given her the note take the money and walk out of *1180 the bank. She kept the note. As the robber left, Miss Weber pushed the emergency alarm, triggering the surveillance camera located over the exit door. A photographic record was thus made of the robber leaving the bank.
During the time the robber was at Miss Weber’s window, and also for several minutes beforehand, the robber was observed by two customers in the bank, Margaret Kelly and Pauline Monahan, who were standing in line at the window next to Miss Weber’s. Both saw the note and money change hands, and both watched the robber leave the bank.
Before trial, the defendant moved to exclude the testimony of Misses Weber, Kelly, and Monahan, the three possible eyewitnesses to the robbery. A
Simmons hea
ring
2
was held to determine whether their testimony on the issue of identification was to be excluded. (See Simmons v. United States,
When the individual eyewitnesses testified at the hearing, certain inconsistencies emerged concerning just what had happened during the spreads conducted by Agent Janson. Miss Weber acknowledged she had selected the defendant’s photograph, but she was not sure whether the other photograph she had picked was of Masotta or was rather “the last one,” which would have been of one James Timmons. Miss Kelly testified that she had at first picked only the defendant’s photograph, but on cross-examination she conceded she had picked a second, although less positively. Miss Monahan remained consistent in her selection. Each eyewitness also admitted that within the week prior to the Simmons hearing each had been shown either stills from the surveillance film taken of the robbery (Miss Weber) or parts of the film plus photographs of other robberies in which the defendant had allegedly been involved (Miss Kelly and Miss Monahan). Judge Bonsai denied the defendant’s motion to exclude the eyewitnesses’ identification testimony.
At trial, the government’s case consisted of the testimony of the three eyewitnesses, the surveillance film, the expert testimony of an FBI documents examiner, and the testimony of an officer of the bank that it was insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and that surveillance cameras were in use at the 130 East 42nd Street branch. No evidence was presented by the defendant.
At trial, Miss Weber identified the defendant as the robber and stated that she was sure of her identification, even though she also admitted to having selected not only the defendant’s photo *1181 graph but also that of another at the photographic spread on the day of the robbery. In addition, the presentation of the surveillance film to the jury was also made during Miss Weber’s testimony, and over the defendant’s objection Miss Weber was permitted by the trial court to point out during the showing of the film the location of persons and objects in the bank. 5 Miss Kelly, in her testimony, made a similar in-court identification of the defendant as the man she had seen commit the robbery. She, too, acknowledged that she had not been completely positive of her identification of the defendant at the photographic spread on the day of the robbery. 6 Miss Monahan was the third eyewitness to testify at trial. During her testimony in the morning, she was unable to identify the defendant as the man who committed the robbery. During the luncheon recess the prosecution had her view the surveillance film again, and in the afternoon she was recalled to the witness stand, over defense objection. The objection was overruled, and, her memory refreshed, she identified the defendant as the robber.
It is the defendant’s initial contention that the sum of these identifications by the three eyewitnesses establishes conclusively their incompetence to testify at trial on the issue of identity. In support of his contention, the defendant argues that the identifications made in court by Misses Weber, Kelly, and Mon-ahan were founded not upon their personal familiarity with the robber’s appearance, gained at the time of the robbery, but upon their recollection of the surveillance film (which, the defendant claims, is insufficiently clear to support any identification of the robber) and other photographs shown to them by government agents.
We are unable to discern any good reason for holding that the three eyewitnesses were incompetent to testify-. While it is true that “what the witness represents as his knowledge must be an impression derived from the exercise of his own senses, not from the reports of others, — in other words, must be founded on personal observation,” 2 Wigmore, Evidence § 657 (3rd ed., 1940) (emphasis omitted), nonetheless it has long been established that “the result of the witness’ observation need not be positive or absolute certainty . ; it suffices if he had an opportunity of personal observation and did get some impressions from this observation.”
Id.,
§ 658. These principles have been consistently applied with no less breadth in the area of testimony as to a person’s identity.
Id.,
§ 660. As the Supreme Court noted in Stovall v. Denno,
Here, Misses Weber, Kelly, and Monahan each observed the robber at the time of the robbery, for an adequate length of time to perceive at least his general features, his sex, stature, bearing, the color of his skin, and even his fingernails. Their observations were made under conditions of adequate light, under (at least initially) normal daytime operations. There was no mask on the robber, nor any obstruction between the observer and the suspect. Nor is there any indication that the witnesses’ faculties of observation were in any way impaired. Under these circumstances, the witnesses were clearly competent. See Simmons v. United States, supra; Coleman v. Alabama,
supra;
Clemons v. United States, and companion cases
We turn now to the question whether the testimony of the three eyewitnesses, otherwise competent, should have been excluded for the reason that it was the result of impermissibly suggestive pretrial identification procedures and hence, in its admission at trial, violative of due process. Cf. Simmons v. United States, supra. The defendant in his reply brief specifically disclaims that he is making a “taint argument” on the basis of Simmons, Wade, and Gilbert, supra, and states that his argument is only “an evidentiary [one] which inquires whether the witnesses could, from their ability to observe, identify the robber, and thus whether the witnesses were competent to testify.” However, in his principal brief, the defendant argues that “the eyewitness testimony presented by the government was improperly admitted at trial because this testimony was incompetent and the product of unnecessarily suggestive photographic procedures.” (Emphasis added.)
While, as indicated earlier, it is only recently that the Supreme Court has addressed the problem of improper eyewitness identification,
Wade, Gilbert, Stovall, supra,
and subsequent cases, the guidelines are fairly well established regarding the admissibility of in-eourt eyewitness identification testimony. In instances where there is no sixth amendment violation relating to the absence of counsel at a critical stage of the criminal proceedings (see United States v. Wade,
supra;
Coleman v. Alabama,
supra),
and again no such issue is raised by the defendant
(cf.
Sobel, Eye-Witness Identification § 47 (1972)), the admissibility of in-court eyewitness identification testimony is solely a question of due process. In a situation such as the present one, where various photographic identification procedures were used prior to and during trial, admissibility
*1183
depends upon a weighing of all the circumstances surrounding the use of such procedures. As the test was formulated in Simmons v. United States,
supra,
[E]ach case must be considered on its own facts, and . . . convictions based on eyewitness identification at trial following a pretrial identification by photograph will be set aside on that ground only if the photographic identification procedure was so imper-missibly suggestive as to give rise to a very substantial likelihood of irreparable misidentifieation.
The danger on which the Court was focusing, of course, was that “ [r] egardless of how [an] initial misi-dentification comes about, the witness thereafter is apt to retain in his memory the image of the photograph rather than of the person actually seen, reducing the trustworthiness of subsequent lineup or courtroom identification.”
Id.,
at 383-384,
Since the
Simmons
case, there have been some instances of the exclusion of eyewitness identification testimony because of the impermissibly suggestive nature of its origin. See Foster v. California, supra; United States v. Sutherland (I),
Applying the standard to this case, we conclude that petitioner Simmons’ claim . . . must fail. In the first place, it is not suggested that it was unnecessary for the FBI to resort to photographic identification in this instance. A serious felony had been committed. The perpetrators were still at large. ... It was essential for the FBI agents swiftly to determine whether they were on the right track, so that they could properly deploy their forces. . . . The justification for this method of procedure was hardly less compelling than that which we found to justify the “one-man lineup” in Stovall v. Denno, supra.
In the second place, there was in the circumstances of this case little chance that the procedure utilized led to misidentifieation of Simmons. The robbery took place in the afternoon in a well-lighted bank. The robbers wore no masks. Five bank employees had been able to see the robber later identified as Simmons for periods *1184 ranging up to five minutes. Those witnesses were shown the photographs only a day later, while their memories were still fresh. At least six photographs were displayed to each witness. Apparently, these consisted primarily of group photographs, with Simmons and Andrews [the co-defendant] each appearing several times in the series. Each witness was alone when he or she saw the photographs. There is no evidence to indicate that the witnesses were told anything about the progress of the investigation, or that the FBI agents in any other way suggested which persons in the pictures were under suspicion.
Under these conditions, all five eyewitnesses identified Simmons as one of the robbers. . . . These initial identifications were confirmed by all five witnesses in subsequent viewings of photographs and at trial, where each witness identified Simmons in person. . . . Taken together, these circumstances leave little room for doubt that the identification of Simmons was correct, even though the identification procedure employed may have in some respects fallen short of the ideal. [Footnote omitted.]
This court thereafter had occasion to consider the admissibility of in-court identification testimony in United States ex rel. Phipps v. Follette,
supra,
While the Supreme Court has not explicitly adopted a two-step approach in applying the
Simmons
test of the totality of the circumstances, in Neil v. Biggers,
supra,
While we are inclined to agree that the police did not exhaust all possibilities in seeking persons physically comparable to respondent, we do not think that the evidence must therefore be excluded. The purpose of a strict rule barring evidence of unnecessarily suggestive confrontations would be to deter the police from using a less reliable proce *1185 dure where a more reliable one may be available, not because in every instance the admission of evidence of such a confrontation offends due process. [Id., at 199,93 S.Ct. at 382 .]
The Court declined to apply such a rule, and went on to say:
[T]he central question [is] whether under the “totality of the circumstances” the identification was reliable even though the confrontation procedure was suggestive. As indicated by our cases, the factors to be considered in evaluating the likelihood of misidentifieation include the opportunity of the witness to view the criminal at the time of the crime, the witness’ degree of attention, the accuracy of the witness’ prior description of the criminal, the level of certainty demonstrated by the witness at the confrontation, and the length of time between the crime and the confrontation. [Id., at 199,93 S.Ct. at 382 .]
Weighing all the factors, the Court found no substantial likelihood of misidentification, and held that the evidence of identification was properly allowed to go to the jury. We note that other courts of appeals have sustained convictions based on eyewitness testimony in overall circumstances similar to the circumstances in the instant case. Clemons v. United States, and companion eases,
supra,
Here the three eyewitnesses were shown photographs of Evans in separate photographic spreads within hours after the robbery, while their rec-olleetions were still fresh. There is no suggestion of impropriety in the spreads themselves: no improper use of names, no distinctive characteristics about Evans’s photograph as compared to those of the others. The selection by each of them of Evans’s photograph, while not wholly positive, was careful and free of any marks of police pressure or suggestion. Indeed, their tentativeness is in itself evidence that the spreads were fair, for if identification is risky, some doubt is customarily to be expected.
Cf.
Hines v. United States, 133 U.S.App.D. C. 27,
The taint argument, however, does not end here. The defendant argues that in the showing of the bank surveillance film, or portions of it, to the three eyewitnesses not merely prior to trial (at a time when the defendant had been in custody for more than two months), but, in the case of Miss Monahan, during the trial as well, the chances were thereby augmented that the in-court identifications were the result of improper pretrial photographic procedures in that the potential for danger present in the use of the photographic spreads, if not realized at the beginning, was realized when compounded through post-arrest review. Furthermore, because of this increased danger, the defendant in his principal brief urges the adoption of a per se exclusionary rule, whereby such allegedly tainted identification would be inadmissible unless the *1186 government can establish by “clear and convincing evidence” either that there was in fact no taint or that the testimony was based on an untainted, independent source of identification. 8
We decline to adopt a
per se
rule in this case for the same reasons that the Supreme Court refused to do so in the
Simmons
case and in Neil v. Biggers. Simmons v. United States,
supra,
Against the totality of this evidence, it cannot be said that those portions of it which stemmed from suggestive photographic procedures reached a level which
*1187
required the exclusion of the resulting testimony. Rather, the testimony was sufficiently based on the personal knowledge of the eyewitnesses that any taint was subject to adequate exploration through cross-examination. In view of the extent, therefore, to which the eyewitnesses’ testimony was challenged on cross-examination — challenges which brought out many of the minor inconsistencies and irregularities discussed earlier — there yet remained ample un-controverted and untainted evidence of the robber’s identity for the jury to consider the issue. Cf. United States v. Wade,
supra,
The other principal contention raised by the defendant is that it was an abuse of discretion and reversible error for the trial judge, after a request by defense counsel, to fail to give a specific charge to the jury on the dangers of eyewitness identification. The trial judge declined to give such an instruction, and limited his charge to the general issue of credibility. The defendant challenges this ruling and urges in support of his position further consideration of recent decisions of the Third Circuit and District of Columbia Courts of Appeals, and also of this court, either adopting or suggesting the use of a specific cautionary charge in criminal cases where identification of the defendant is a key issue. United States v. Barber,
supra,
There is no question that identification testimony is notably fallible, and the result of it can be, and sometimes has been, “the greatest single injustice that can arise out of our system of criminal law,” Gregory v. United States (I),
*1188
Other courts of appeals which have considered the need for a detailed charge on the fallibility of eyewitness identification, whether to be given on request of counsel or otherwise, have decided that at most the use of such a charge is a matter of discretion, to be employed only as the circumstances of a particular case may warrant, or else that it is superfluous in the light of a proper and complete charge on the burden of proof in criminal cases and on the credibility of witnesses.
11
McGee v. United States,
While a defendant is not entitled to a reading of all that was said about the dangers of misidentifieation in United States v. Wade . . .,388 U.S. at 228-236 ,87 S.Ct. at 1926 , and Simmons v. United States . . .,390 U.S. at 383-384 ,88 S.Ct. at 967 , we would think it reasonable that a properly drafted instruction, drawing particularly on Mr. Justice Harlan’s language in Simmons, should be given if requested. [However, wjhether failure to do would constitute reversible error would depend upon the circumstances.
We hold that under the circumstances of this case, particularly the full opportunity afforded to develop all the facts relevant to identification of the defendant and the careful and accurate instructions to the jury, it was not error for the trial judge to refuse to give an additional charge regarding identification.
Affirmed.
Notes
. There is some confusion in the defendant’s briefs on the question whether his objection to the identification testimony of the witnesses is grounded solely on an argument of their incompetency, or whether it also rests on a contention that their testimony should have been excluded for being so tainted by improper pretrial identification procedures that to admit it at trial was violative of due process.
. On this court’s endorsement of the use of
Simmons
hearings in a situation such as the present one, see our decision in United States ex rel. Phipps v. Follette,
. The defendant does not contend that the spreads were unfair or that at this pre-arrest stage they in any way violated the Supreme Court’s guidelines in United States v. Wade,
. The record is unclear on the extent to which the bank surveillance film was also used at this pre-arrest stage to help narrow the suspects.
. There is some indication that Miss Weber claimed at this point never to have seen the surveillance film before, which may have been technically true but is not fully consistent with her testimony at the Simmons hearing.
. Miss Kelly also testified that at the same spread, prior to viewing the group of seven photographs selected by Agent Janson, she had been shown a single photograph of an unknown person not, to her recollection, the defendant.
. In Fernandez (I) there was also the further evidence of a bank surveillance film.
. The defendant contends, in part, that taint is established
prima facie
in instances where the government has failed to use a more reliable source of identification, for example a lineup, when such a source is available and a less reliable one, for example a showup, has been used in its stead. The defendant would further urge that in such instances only a
per se
exclusionary rule would adequately ensure the regular use of the more reliable source. This argument was specifically rejected by the Supreme Court in Neil v. Biggers,
. During argument, this court had occasion to view the surveillance film. We believe that it contained sufficiently clear images of the robber so that the jury was properly allowed to view the film and to make their own determination of the likeness of the robber on the screen to the defendant in the courtroom. Furthermore, while it may have been somewhat out of the ordinary to have Miss Weber narrate the film during its showing to the jury, we reject the defendant’s contention that she was not qualified to perform this function. She was an employee of the bank, familiar with the premises and with the general operation of the surveillance system, and present at the time the pictures were taken; she was not, as the defendant would characterize her, a lay witness masquerading as an expert.
. See United States v. Wade,
. We have carefully scrutinized the trial court’s charge on the general issue of credibility in this ease and find it clear and thorough.
