*1 792 Religion or the Amendment
es of the First Constitution. New Mexico Clause of II, Mexico of New Article Section that: provides Constitution AFFIRMED. worship free to man shall be
Every of his according the dictates own
God
conscience, ever be person no shall political any or or denied civil
molested of his reli-
right privilege on account or religious of wor-
gious opinion or mode required to person No shall
ship. worship support any place
attend denomination; nor
any religious sect or given law to any preference be shall America, STATES UNITED or mode any religious denomination Plaintiff-Appellee, worship. of New upon examination believe We Ray and Broce Construction C. BROCE provision under this Mexico cases Inc., Defendants-Appellants. Company, correctly concluded that court district Const, II, 11 are the N.M. art. 83-2558, goals of § Nos. 83-2559. by the Establishment served same as those Appeals, States Court of the First Exercise Clauses and Free Tenth Circuit. courts have New Mexico Amendment. The N.M. Amendment and the First discussed 2, 1986. Jan. Const, II, together5 have cited art. § Amend- the First federal case law under findings support their under both
ment to provi- constitutional
the federal and state hold, the reasons therefore
sions.6 We county seal under upholding
stated in Exercise and Free
the Establishment III, II and swpra Parts
Clauses Const, II, art. violate N.M. seal does not 11.
§
V
Conclusion that the Ber-
Accordingly, we conclude County does not violate either
nalillo seal Free Exercise Claus-
the Establishment or constitution, among things, County other Seal vio and state the Bernalillo mine whether II, wearing art. See Anderson use of sectarian books and § lates N.M. Const. teachers’ (10th Cir.) schools). City Corp., religious garb public Salt Lake crucifix religious (Challenge monument grounds nonreligious symbols in on courthouse Vogenthaler, P.2d N.M. 6. See State v. right, of which volved a "basic First Amendment (1976) prohibit (discussing statute 113-14 and, jurisdiction, although court has the federal desecration); Duffy v. ing see also Las church is in provision the state constitution a like volved, Schools, (D.N.M. F.Supp. 1013 Cruces Public proper federal resolution of the 1983) (New authorizing daily statute Mexico upon state resolution not conditioned question, public uncon schools held moment of silence denied, constitution.”), cert. law or Clause and un under Establishment stitutional (1973). 38 L.Ed.2d II, dismissed, 11), appeal art. § der N.M. Const. Huff, N.M. 236 P.2d 5. See Zellers 1983). (10th Cir. June No. 83-1358 (1951) (holding federal invalid under 959-61 *2 Casebeer, (Curt Glenn E. II T. Schneider briefs) Schneider, Casebeer, on the and Kan., Coffeyville, for defendants-appel- lants. Fonte, Dept, Justice,
John P.
Wash-
(John
ington,
Powers, III,
D.C.
J.
Dept, of
Justice,
McGrath,
Paul
Atty. Gen.,
J.
Asst.
Rule, Deputy
and Charles F.
Atty.
Asst.
Gen.,
D.C.,
Washington,
Judy
Whalley
Mary Jones, Dept,
Justice,
Chicago,
Ill.,
brief)
him
with
for plaintiff-appellee.
HOLLOWAY,
Judge,
Before
Chief
DOYLE, BARRETT, McKAY, LOGAN,
SEYMOUR,
MOORE,
Judges.
Circuit
ON REHEARING EN BANC
MOORE,
Judge.
JOHN P.
Circuit
These cases are before the court for re-
hearing
questions presented
en banc. The
plea
are whether a
constitutes a
waiver of a
to assert a
defendant’s
Jeopardy
violation of the Double
Clause of
the Fifth Amendment and
the sec-
whether
charging
ond of
a Sherman
two
duplicitous
Act
of the first.
guilty plea
We hold that a
does not waive
under the
defense of
further
circumstances of this case. We
requires
hold the record
a remand of
hearing
case
to determine as a matter
charged
of fact
the acts
constitute
whether
conspiracies.
therefore re-
one or two
We
the district court.
judgment
verse the
7, 1981, a two count indict-
On November
defendants,
charging
ment was returned
Co.,
Ray
Broce and Broce Construction
C.
Inc.,
conspiracy to violate the Sher-
with
Act,
In the second
man
15 U.S.C. §
count,
charged
mail
Broce was
Mr.
fraud,
February
1341. On
18 U.S.C. §
indictment was returned
a second
Beachner,
Accordingly,
at 1277.
corporation
supra,
charging Mr. Broce and
the indictment and
U.S.C. 1.
the court dismissed
violation of 15
one count with
§
ruling
af-
government appealed. The
pursuant to a
February
On
firmed
this court. United States
government and
agreement between
Co., Inc.,
Beachner Construction
defendants,
appeared
Mr. Broce
Cir.1984).
*3
both indict-
pleas
guilty
of
to
and entered
president
present ap-
of
hearing
own
and as
from
the
in his
behalf
The
which
ments
Subsequently, Broce was
corporation.
after the
peal emanates occurred
the
two-year terms
to concurrent
the
appeal
sentenced
before our affirmance of
but
$50,000
conspiracy
the
counts
and fined
on
In order to focus the issues
dismissal.
corporation
The
was
case,
government stipu-
both indictments.
Broce and the
$750,000 on each indictment.
fined
the record of the Beachner
lated that
hear-
by the trial
ing could
considered
court
later,
filed mo-
year
both
One
defendants
That
ruling
Rule 35 motion.
appellants’
35(a) to
pursuant
to Fed.R.Crim.P.
tions
Following the
record is
before us.
also
convic-
judgments alleging their
the
vacate
hearing,
publication
before the
of our
and
the
violated
tion on the second indictment
Beachner,
the trial court
opinion
denied
the Fifth
Jeopardy Clause of
Double
relief,
law,
holding
a
de-
as matter of
the
asserted the
The defendants
Amendment.
right
their
to
fendants had waived
raise
charged single transac-
conspiracy counts
a
pleas.
guilty
their
issue
conspiracies;
rather than two
tion
appeal
This
followed.
hence,
charge
unconstitu-
the second
was
and
This conten-
tionally duplicitous
void.
panel
originally heard this
from anoth-
ruling
motivated
a
tion was
reversal of the trial
case ordered
court’s
dismissing an
judge in the same district
er
Broce, 753
judgment. United States v.
companion
in a
case.
indictment
(10th Cir.1985).
opinion
F.2d 811
That
was
rehearing
granted
to con-
vacated and
defendants, Broce
the Broce
and
pleas
sider whether
admis-
actively en-
Company, were
Construction
sions
defendants that
there
were
highway
busi-
gaged
construction
actually
conspiracies and
whether
in the state of Kansas for a number
ness
collaterally attack the
defendants could
Indeed,
years prior to the indictments.
following a
of an indictment
foundations
very
grew
out of that
these
plea
guilty.
activity,
did the
in the com-
as
case,
panion
v. Beachner
United States
I.
Co., Inc.,
F.Supp.
555
1273
Construction
Beachner,
government
a
(D.Kan.1983).
here, the
contends
fundamental
charge
principle
this circuit is that the double
had
indicted on a
defendants
been
personal
subject
and
to
conspiracy
rig
particular
on a
defense
bids
Crouse,
trial and waiver.
376
highway project. After
Cox
Kansas
Cir.),
denied,
865, 88
cert.
charge,
on this
defendants
S.Ct.
acquittal
(1967);
Caballero
again
indicted on a second
L.Ed.2d
(10th Cir.1940).
highway Hudspeth,
connected to
different
trial,
premise
government argues
the On that
Id. at 1274. Prior
project.
plea
guilty consti
that an
to dismiss the indictment
unconditional
defendants moved
waiver, Caballero, supra, tutes that
jeopardy grounds. After a
on double
precludes
challenge of the indictment.
three-day evidentiary hearing pursuant
Although
panel held that Menna v.
Abney v.
U.S.
York,
(1977),
96 S.Ct.
the trial
Contrary
government’s
to the
insis
guilt
pleas
factual
in the
subsumed
of
upon equity,
tence
plea
the defendants’
guilty go only
constituting
the
bargain
to
acts
the
estoppel
cannot work an
of their
right
invalidity
charge.
to assert the
and not to whether one or more
government
the
agree
When
enters into an
existed.
Launius
ment
upon
Cir.1978).
which is fashioned
a constitu-
Moreover,
waiver; hence,
reading
topic by
careful
discloses the Kerri-
the discussion of that
gan
question
district court did not rule on the
of
the circuit court is dictum.
government is not
hearing,
that
hold,
oped in
as man
now
Accordingly, we
of
argue
our
position
examination
Menna, a defendant’s
dated
plead-
to the
duplicitous
confined
constitutionally
the issue must be
govern-
stipulation
that defendant’s
ings.
Can that
not waiver
claim.
anything
a double
but a conces-
regarded as
to assert
ment be
many cases
been
of the two
part
there have
While
on its
facts
sion
of those
contrary, none
to the
held
one is rele-
have
are so
that
cases
intertwined
has char
Blackledge
with what
have dealt
in consideration of the
to the other
vant
into
to be haled
right not
acterized
not.
We think
legal issue?
same
govern
recognize as
we
court and what
us a case which
have
We now
before
power to
constitutional
lack
ment’s
in which we
factually linked to another
aligned
find ourselves
charge. We
testimony that estab-
already
have
found
give
full
in Launius
Circuit
Ninth
“continuous, cooperative effort
lished a
the double
true nature
cognizance
rig
asphalt contractors
among Kansas
right.5
twenty-five years.”
for “more than
bids”
Moreover,
Beachner,
at 1282.
729 F.2d
II.
existence
testimony
established
is whether
remaining question
bid-rigging that
method”
a “common
defendants
to which
the indictments
among all
open
was “well-known”
con
Act
Sherman
or two
charged one
pled
evidence that
We found
Id.
contractors.
Beachner,
de
supra, a
As in
spiracies.
obligations
interdependent
“mutual
comparison
by paragraph
paragraph
tailed
con-
participating
created between
reveals
indictments
Broce
bid-rigging scheme
“the
and that
tractors”
references
except for
identity
virtual
Id.
We
self-perpetuating
nature.”
Thus,
projects.
highway
Kansas
different
showed
evidence
added: “The
then
do not
the two
face
on their
in Kansas understood
asphalt contractors
conspiracies.
charge different
appear to
ability
years that
twenty-five
for over
indicated,
stipu-
parties
previously
As
using the afore-
available
rig bids was
transcript
court
in the trial
lated
therefore,
was,
There
method.
mentioned
the double
hearing on
evidentiary
agreement in
conspiratorial
no
lack
*6
be incor-
Beachner would
issue in
at 1283.
case.” Id.
Thus,
in this case.
record
porated
in
are viewed
indictments
the two
When
weight
have
must
opinion in Beachner
our
matrix,
question
significant
this factual
previ-
asserts our
government
here.
whether,
unique circum
under the
arises
bearing
this ease
has no
ruling
ous
case,
defendants stood
this
the
stances
the
in
held
Beachner
merely
we
because
long
only one
in
participation
charged with
clearly
were not
trial court
findings of the
Moreover, on the
conspiracy.
standing
argues
also
government
erroneous.
indictments,
the
appears
it
of the
face
charges
the
of whether
question
that the
mere elements
forth were
set
transactions
conspiracies
multiple
single
were
independent
and not
conspiracy,
in that
face
from the
resolved
must be
Compare United
themselves.
conspiracies
underlying
the
indictments,
not from
(10th
Behrens,
Cir.
689 F.2d
v.
States
facts.
McMurray, 680
1982);
United States
in other
approach taken
Whatever
(10th Cir.1981); United States
determining the nature
in
cases
Cir.1969).
(7th
Palermo,
rel.
317
(1904),
63
U.S.
S.Ct.
the Court characterized freedom
236, 241-42,
(1942):
criminal
law
the federal
is
courts
“The
prohibition
hedged
against
constitutional
about as it is
the Constitution-
jeopardy’
designed
‘double
safeguards
protect
al
protection
for
of an
accused,
an
being subjected
individual from
deny
him in
the exercise of
possible
hazards of trial
right
his free choice
and
conviction
dispense
more than once
an
safeguards
alleged
some of
for
impri-
these
is to
of-
...
fense ....
son
privileges
...
in his
and call it
[him]
the Constitution.”
idea,
“... The underlying
one that is
deeply ingrained in
Anglo-
at least the
consistently
Court has thus
allowed
system
American
jurisprudence,
criminal
relinquish
defendants to
constitu
that the State with all its resources and
See,
rights.
tional
e.g., Garner v. United
power should not
allowed
be
to make
States,
648,
1178,
424
96
U.S.
S.Ct.
47
repeated attempts to convict an individu-
(1976) (freedom
L.Ed.2d 370
from self-in
offense,
al
an alleged
for
thereby sub-
crimination);
Wingo,
Barker v.
407 U.S.
jecting
embarrassment,
him to
expense
514,
2182,
92 S.Ct.
(1972)
801
guilt and
(1973),
listed
valid establishment
53,
the Court
L.Ed.2d 854
36
offactual
being
way
from twice
con-
right
free
do not stand
to be
rights
as one of those
placed
jeopardy”
viction,
validly
estab-
guilt is
if factual
knowing
standard of
the Zerbst
however,
to which
Here,
the claim is that
lished.
applied,
had
intelligent waiver
been
may
petitioner no
not convict
State
citing
specifically
Green.
guilt is
validly
how
his factual
matter
Blackledge
therefore,
v.
subsequent cases of
guilty plea,
established.
2098,
40
94 S.Ct.
417 U.S.
Perry,
the claim.”
does not bar
(1974),
v. New
and Menna
L.Ed.2d 628
242 n. 2
n.
and sentence him of his life 514 F.2d Cir.1975). liberty.” his case, In this defendants did not receive 467-68, (empha at at 1024 U.S. 58 S.Ct. copy of the second indictment until almost added). guarantee against sis Like the days They pleaded filing. four after its Menna, jeopardy double described day. the same The record indicates right deprives power to counsel a court of jeopardy rights that a waiver of double was proceed against an accused who un bargained by neither the Government represented. Yet Zerbst was a landmark nor otherwise discussed with defense coun- precisely decision because of its statement sel. Counsel’s uncontroverted affidavit re- right may knowingly that such a be veals that defendants did not consider See id. voluntarily relinquished. at question jeopardy prior plead- of double S.Ct. at 1023. It thus does not follow from ing guilty. accepting Before defendants’ jurisdictional the Court’s characterization pleas, judge litany the trial recited a guarantee against jeopardy double rights, constitutional but did not mention may exceptional is somehow never be Jeopardy the Double Clause. Even with- Accord Launi relinquished.5 deliberately invoking presumption against out waiv- States, (9th us United 575 F.2d er of safeguards, constitutional it is clear Cir.1978). deliberately that defendants did not relin- Although jeopar- I that a conclude quish challenge the indict- waived, dy may agree claim be against ments them. Bohanon, panel opin- author of the dissent, Judge argues In Barrett ion, that there has been no waiver in this forfeited defendants their double case. Menna confirms that any waiver by failing claim to raise the issue below as a double claim must be deliberate 12(b)(2). required by Fed.R.Crim.P. See Zerbst. by in the sense envisioned pro- Barrett Dissent at 813-815. The rule defendant in Menna had raised the defense vides: prior pleading guilty. The New York “(b) defense, Any Pretrial Motions. Appeals Court of therefore construed his objection, request capable which is guilty plea knowing voluntary as a determination without trial Menna, People See
waiver.
may
36 N.Y.2d
general
issue
be raised
trial
before
by
may
motion.
N.Y.S.2d
deliberate decision to
(2)
objections
Defenses and
based on
claim, notwithstanding that
the defendant
defects
the indictment or informa-
(other
of the claim at the time
his
aware
tion
than that
it fails to show
Menna,
jurisdiction in
See
plea.
at
n.
the court or to
an
U.S.
62-63
objections
offense which
shall be no-
highway project let the state of Kansas imposed by million dollars fines the court February on 1980. Robert illegal legal was because it exceeded.the subsequently indicted the same violation, penalty per of one million dollars alleged proceeded The case offenses. prescribed by 15 U.S.C. 1.§ ’). (‘Beachner May By trial on 7, 1982, May jury verdict rendered light “The defendants contend that in *14 acquitted conspir both defendants of the Judge ruling, they Saffels’ Beachner II acy charges. and mail fraud guilty bid-rigging of- 16, 1982, “On November another indict- single conspiracy fense—a than —rather by grand jury, ment was returned the nam- allege two. The defendants thus that the Co., Inc., ing Beachner Construction and imposed by sentence the court the violates Jerry as Beachner defendants. This indict- jeopardy ground clause the double on (‘Beachner II’) ment contained three punishes multiplicity that it them twice alleging counts violations 1 of the of § single for offense. Act, alleging and Sherman three counts certainly jeop- “It is clear that the double mail fraud violations. found Saffels ardy protect clause does a defendant the Beachner II indict- Beachner against multiplicity punishment. In identical, exception ments to be with the 711, Pearce, North 395 U.S. Carolina Jerry that Beachner II named Beachner 717, 2072, 2076, 23 89 S.Ct. L.Ed.2d 656 Beachner, rather than that Robert (1969),the Court stated: specified high- II three different Beachner guarantee [against jeopardy] That double way projects. separate has been said to consist of three II, “In Beachner Construction protections. protects constitutional It Co., Inc., moved to dismiss the November against prosecution a second for 16, indictment, alleging 1982 inter alia acquittal. protects same offense after It jeopardy estoppel. double and collateral against prosecution a second for the Following evidentiary hearing, an the court same offense after And it conviction. January entered 1983 Memorandum its protects against multiple punishments Order, in which it concluded that the the same offense.... conspiracies charged in Beachner I and (Footnotes omitted) added). (emphasis merely separate parts Beachner II were
807
“The defendants
thus
contend that
Cir.1981); Launius v.
States,
575
should be entitled to
advantage
take
(9th
Cir.1978), neither of these
Judge Saffels’
Beachner II
ruling
because
plea
cases involved a
of guilty to an indict
35(a)
a Rule
motion can
be raised ‘at
ment or information that
multipli
was not
time.’ Although it
general
is the
rule that
cious on its face.
In
words,
other
the cases
35(a)
a Rule
motion can be
at any
raised
cited
the defendants are entirely within
time
States,
v. United
[Heflin
scope
of the rule
announced Menna.
(1959);
pleaded. United States v. Herzog, Menna, “In though even (8th defendant’s F.2d Cir.1981); McClain v. guilty plea Brown, admitted the facts of his of- Cir.1978); fense, the indictment —on its Perez, United States v. argu- 1227, 1232 565 F.2d face — ably violated (2d Cir.1977). clause The Tenth apparent Circuit charging him a time ly second for the conduct had not question addressed the of waiver subject was the previous of his con- double jeopardy claim. We tempt Thus, conviction. convinced, however, defendant’s the waiver theo claim was not ries rendered announced either Launius or the irrelevant his guilty plea Herzog because the line of cases applied should be indictment its sought punish facts of the instant case. face conduct, same thereby giving rise a pos- “We believe that the resolution sible double jeopardy violation. con- pending motion should be controlled by the trast, challenged second opinion in Kerrigan v. United *15 (No. 82-20011-01) instant case does not (1st Cir.1981), which more closely its punish seek to the defendants face resembles the facts and resulting legal for the conduct same for which issues of the matter at bar than does charged in the previous (No. indictment by other case parties cited or uncovered 81-20119-01). Menna left unanswered the by the court’s Kerrigan research. in- was question of plea whether a to one separate dicted two indictments a or more counts multiplicious on their grand jury. federal The first indictment face constitutes a waiver of a claim of charged Kerrigan conspired with oth- jeopardy. double ers, August between and Septem- research “Our reveals few transport courts ber to and to sell stolen have squarely question confronted left lithographs. second indictment Supreme unanswered Court Men charged Kerrigan conspired with one na. Although the defendants have previous cited of his co-conspirators, between two broadly-worded opinions propo for the September 1,1977, September 22,1977, and sition that plea a guilty does not transport constitute to to sell jewel- and stolen Indian claim, waiver of a jeopardy double Unit ry. charged second indictment also Broussard, ed Kerrigan with a count substantive of trans- jewelry constitutionally sep-
porting
stolen
interstate
sentenced to two
Kerrigan pleaded guilty to the
imprisonment.
commerce.
arate terms of
conspiracy charges,
two
each before a dif-
the double
similarity
“The
between the
facts
Circuit, Judge Campbell dis-
for the First
Kerrigan
case now at bar and those of
cussed Menna and Launius
at some
inescapable.
Ray
Defendants
C. Broce and
length.
Co., Inc., pleaded guilty
Broce Construction
do indeed indi-
Menna
Launius
alleging
to two
differ-
cate that
double
claim
lie
conspiracies beginning
ent
at different
notwithstanding
guilty plea,
but
nei-
(more
year apart)
times
than one
and in-
did the
claim
ther case
volving
projects.
different construction
On
repudiation
allega-
depend upon a
faces,
alleged
their
the indictments
two dis-
tions in the indictment to which the
conspiracies,
tinct criminal
and the defend-
had been entered. These cases do not
each,
pleaded guilty
acknowledging
ants
hold,
Kerrigan suggests,
that a de-
validity
of the facts contained in each
pleaded guilty may
fendant who
later
Accordingly,
indictment.
we feel com-
the factual and theoretical foun-
contest
reasoning
pelled
adopt
the First Circuit’s
dations of the
he
‘accepted
govern-
that the defendants
fact,
that,
pleaded, so as to
he
show
two-conspiracy allegations,
ment’s
and it is
single
committed
offense. The
try
too late
establish some-
[them]
explicitly
correctly
court in
Launius
thing else.’
“We
reasoning applicable is here. Smith v. distinguishable from the United States I. intervening
situation at bar in that the
deci
Blackledge
Menna and
question
sion in
case
that
involved
of law:
eourt,
The trial
operation
unlike
Consequently,
majority,
of a statute.
found
York,
that Menna
Supreme
applica
Court’s decision was
v. New
423 U.S.
(1975)
96 S.Ct.
finding
ble to Smith’s case.
Saffels’
These cases are consistent with
logic
O’Connor’sreliance
Consistent with the
Kerrigan
Kerrigan,
on
it
(1st Cir.1981).
my
view that the only
This is
effect that can be
case,
the only
firmly placed
in the course of
re-
our
Beachner is that follow-
search,
closely
fits the niche of the
ing
filing
opinion,
all subse-
*18
quent prosecutions
the District of Kan-
Hudspeth, supra,
in
Caballero v.
was an
appeal from the
involving
sas or
in this circuit
district court’s
elsewhere
denial of
corpus
habeas
relief.
bid-rigging
We there held on
the identical factual
scenario
appeal, that the
guilty plea
defendant’s
holding
to a
would be controlled
our
two count
involving
violation of
Beachner:
that the scheme constituted a
(but
the White
improper
Slave Act was
not
single, on-going,
conspiracy.
continuous
invalid)
emphasis
because the
of the stat-
To that extent and
to that extent the
ute is on the
transportation
interstate
and
collaterally estopped
Government should be
in this
there
trip,
case
was but one
and
relitigating
precise,
identical issue
transportation
that
the one
involved but
subsequent
prosecutions.
criminal
This
one offense. The defendant had been
simply
application
principle
is
of
charged
pled guilty
and
to two counts in-
See,
preclusion.
Pearson,
issue
Bullock v.
volving transportation of one Elise Her-
(10th Cir., 1985). Thus,
charged
bert: one count
that the defendant
analogy
there is no
between Broce and the
compel
engage
intended to
prosti-
her to
jeopardy bar found in Blackledge
double
tution;
charged
the second count
process
upon
deprivation
based
a due
defendant
unlawfully
intended to
cohabit
fundamental nature.
held, however,
with her. This court
does,
majority opinion
as the Govern-
charges
were facially valid and that
contends, (a) encourage
ment
defendants to
subjected
the defendant was not
to double
challenge
long
their sentences
after their
jeopardy
guilty plea
because he entered the
entered,
guilty pleas
effectively
under- voluntarily,
represented by
while
compe-
mining the effectiveness of the criminal
counsel,
tent
object
and did not
justice system
finality
and the
of convic- charges
any stage
proceeding.
tions,
(b) discourage
prosecu-
and
federal
circumstances,
Under these
we held that
entering
plea bargaining
tors from
into
placed
twice
advantages
all
east on the side of the
personal right
be waived
government
defendant
realistically
and
guilty.
inviting
deprivation
its benefits under
Kansas,
Cox,
supra,
v.Cox State
plea bargain.
prisoner, appealed
state
a district court de-
analogy
between the instant case
petition
nial of his
for federal habeas cor-
Kerrigan,
and
con-
convicted,
pus relief. Cox had been
follow-
text,
strikingly
Evaluating
clear:
the al-
ing
guilty plea
charge
his
to a
legations in the indictment
from a
both
degree kidnapping.
second
Cox relied on
viewpoint
applicable
factual
and
law exist-
Maryland,
Benton
ing at
the time
plea,
the Broce
There,
(1969).
Virtually appeal all the courts of since Blackledge the Court was both Menna Menna have continued hold that the dealing jurisdictional prob- with obvious defense is waived if not raised in some very power prosecute lems: the a second way before trial as it inwas Menna. time. perfectly is a This reasonable construc-
tion of Menna where defense was so present jurisdictional Broce does not raised. The Court Menna stated that Thus, problem. well-recognized our rule plea “removes the issue of person- that a claim of double is a guilt factual case.” Court may fully appli- al be waived is also there stated: Beachner, Broce, just presented cable. jeopar- conspira- do not hold that a double a factual issue as to whether the
We
dy
charged
claim
never be waived. We
cies
continuous,
ongoing
simply
hold that a
to a
arose out of one
(and
charge
conspiracy)
sepa-
does not waive a claim that— scheme
thus one
rate,
judged
conspiracies.
is one
on its face—the
distinct
There is noth-
ing
challenges
unique
clearly
to such indict
is no inherent
jeopardy prob-
Jeopardy
ments under the Double
Clause.
lem raised
appellant’s convictions for
determinations,
making
such
the issue
both
import
and conspiracy to
presented is one
for the court or
marijuana.”
distribute
of the Broce
forded under Rule 35 to correct an
nature of the
plete advisement of the
sentence.
Court set aside
length
possible incarcera-
charges, the
imposed
sentences
under
18 U.S.C.
punishment,
tion
other
and advisement
2113(e) involving
robbery.
a bank
§
plea
bound
that the court was not
Court set aside the
on the
sentence
count
agreement;
established the ex-
The court
charged
that the defendant received
pleas,
factual
for the
istence of a
basis
property, holding
stolen
that the subsection
plead, the
competency
the defendants to
of the statute
relied on
Government
counsel, the
competent
volun-
assistance
designed
punish
was not
who
robs
pleas
based on the
tariness of
bank, but rather one
receives the
who
loot
agreement,
complete
and the defendants’
Thus,
Broce,
from the robber.
unlike
consequences of the
understanding of the
subject
was deficient for lack of
(R.,
II,
102-91.)
pp.
guilty pleas.
Vol.
jurisdiction.
finding pro-
matter
No fact
fully
with the ABA
complied
court also
manner,
cess was involved.
In like
Standards,
Guilty
Pleas of
1.4. Menna
§
Court
Prince v. United
*21
guilty plea
recognizes that a counseled
val- 322,
403,
(1957)
77 S.Ct.
Judge Saffels found that there was a sin-
cases in determining the nature of the
gle, ongoing conspiracy
sepa-
instead of the
charged conspiracy,
stipulation
the
to in-
rate,
distinct
charged by the
clude
consideration
the Beachner
Government. There were no constitutional
transcript presents
unique
case and
underpinnings
finding.
in this
involved
It
permits
go
us to
behind the indictment.
court,
upheld by
was
appeal,
on
on the
Having
applicability
conceded the
of the
ground that it was
clearly erroneous.
developed
facts
hearing,
in that
the
I conclude
Judge
properly
O’Connor
government
position
is not in the
to ar-
Rule
gue
denied Broce
35 relief.
our
of the
examination
issue must be
F.D.I.C.,
pleadings.
stip- Temple
In our cases
with
United
Cross,
(5th
question,
generally
F.2d 1375
troactivity
we have
States v.
638
Cir.
1981). Here,
First,
agreed
the Government
not
considered three
factors.
prosecute
or
certain counts in
applied
the decision to be
nonretroactive-
law,
guilty pleas.
ly
principle
exchange for
the Broce
must establish a new
challenge
by overruling
past precedent There is no
before us that
either
clear
not handled
the court
litigants may
plea bargain
on which
have relied ... or
818
Florida,
compliance
tion.” Tibbs v.
counsel
in full
457 U.S.
guidelines
Fed.R.Crim.P.,
set forth
(1982);
Rule
S.Ct.
Broce
pleas, Judge
O’Connor did not look
(1980).
late the Sherman 15 U.S.C. § We hold that theory the one transaction fraud, mail 18 U.S.C. in connection § invalid; clearly and that these are inde- 23-60-RS-1080(9), Project No. a feder- with pendent single transactions. This transac- highway project by let al aid State of afterthought. tion idea was an The de- Kansas. has contended fense ever since Mr. Broce 4, 1982, February prison indict- finished single On a second his term that it was a transaction, ment, 82-20011-01, Case No. returned as the result they was of which ap- grand jury, charging they claim that same are entitled to have re- pellants conspiracy their money paid Sher- turned violate as fine in the Act, Project man 1. The latter second U.S.C. transaction. The effort to thus cre- § 29-2(26), public highway KRL was a “single” No. ate a support transaction has no let the State of Kansas project also developed. the cases in the facts (R.O.A. 1). p. purposes For of this Yol. Appellants would have us look back two dissent the indictment filed November years plea guilty $750,000 of and the 17, 1981, is referred to as Indictment They plea fine. contend that this was the February 4 the indictment filed on is treat- result of a mistake of law which should be ed as Indictment 2. recognized $750,000 and the should be re- present appeal only concerns stored. But even if the defendants have conspiracy in the Sherman Act violation of indictment, lost interest second we charged in I in and the Count Indictment give have not. Nor we should them an ex Sherman Act Indictment post restoration which was also facto ignore proposi- The defendants seek to product afterthought. of To consider this tion that Indictment 2 is a necessary plea it would be to find that the claim. Their for this is that distinct reason guilty was unlawful and void. This is only possible have learned that accept present hard to circumstances bring door which could about a refund of plea guilty accept- inasmuch as the money paid by way as a fine would be part plea bargain. ed Broce regarding the two indictments here con- transaction, single Guilty sidered as a a conclusion The Pleas of which is not tenable. It was after Mr. February appellants On 1982 the en- prison Broce had served his term that the pleas tered accordance with a treating idea of the two as one plea bargain entered into between the de- They came to transaction the surface. (R.O.A. fendants and United States. claim that if there is but one transaction 167) p. Ray Defendant C. Broce Vol. theory the fine should be returned. The is plead guilty to both counts of Indictment entirely in a criminal case. new These two to Indictment 2. Broce No. No. related so link transactions are not as to Company, plead guilty Inc. Construction They independent projects. these two have I of Count I of Indictment No. and Count programs. they do not construction Also (R.O.A. pp. 168- Indictment No. Vol. together. They come were some distance Broce, 169). individually The defendant apart. Com- and on behalf of Broce Construction affirmatively
They pany, us back to a two was advised of and would have look they say rights speedy by jury, the year old waived to a trial $750,000 compulsory process, and to cross- payment caused the fine. right against self-in- It said to have a mistake of law the examination and been mention was being could fined crimination. No affirmative effect which result given They that made nor was affirmative waiver twice for one violation. maintain rights Fifth Amendment indictments are transaction to the defendant’s the two against jeopardy. though they set forth in two even *26 21, argument pronounced in case number 1983. Most of its was that Sentence was 15, appellants rights time the had waived their to 1 on March 1982. At that $750,000 jeopardy by pleading guilty raise double to corporation fined sum was government’s argu- $1,500,000. both indictments. The charge on each for a total of concerning ment the actual basis for the paid The fines were to been one-third have 31, 1982, motion was contained one sentence: December one-third Decem- charges “The in the Broce 31, 31, ber 1983 and one-third December multiplicious on their face or in fact.” Ray person- The defendant C. Broce 1984. $50,000 ally and was was fined sum theory appeal Defendant’s was years imprisonment sentenced to two on inspired by opinion a recent district court I of Indictment No. 1. On Count II Count case, by Judge in a Saffels similar of Indictment No. 1 he was fined the sum Co., v. Beachner Inc. Construction $1,000 years and sentenced to two acquitted bid-rig- Beachner had of one been imprisonment concurrently served (Beachner I) ging conspiracy Indict- with the sentence on Count I. On government brought another ment No. defendant Broce was fined the (Beachner against charge them on a similar $50,000 sum of sentenced to two was II). urged Beachner the court to dismiss years imprisonment concurrently to run the record indictment on double No. 1. with sentences Indictment grounds. Judge Saffels found that were fines which were The fines committed Beachner I and II indictments were differ- paid immediately prior to the to have been single conspiracy, ent manifestations of a defendant’s release from incarceration being they that the same because described 203). (R.O.A. 2, p. Vol. conspiracy. The Beachner II indictment Jerry
named
Beachner rather than Robert
Judgment
specified
The Motion To Vacate the
Beachner and Beachner II
three
highway projects.
different
Nevertheless
22, 1983,
February
On
the defendants
Saffels found that the
Company
Ray
Broce Construction
C.
charged in
I and Beachner II
Judg-
filed
Broce
a Motion Vacate
merely separate parts
single
of a
were
ment and Sentence of the trial court
larger
ongoing
rigging conspiracy
bid
Indictment No. 2.
No. 82-20011-01
Case
years.
which had continued for several
(and
away largely
to do
bar-
opinion adopts
posi-
That
the contractors’
gains),
provisions
under the
of Federal
way
it
tion.
no
does
stand out as a
35(a).
Rules of Criminal Procedure
The
precedent
adop-
for this court. This
led
alleged
judgment and sentence were
theory
tion of a similar
in this ease even
they
illegal
have been
violated the
though
aspects
the facts and their
of the Fifth Amend-
clause
wholly different.
ment
Constitution
hearing
of Broce Construc-
The court held a
on the motion to
States.
contention
1,
Company,
May
case on
tion
Inc. was that the total of vacate
the instant
illegal
$1,500,000 in fines was
because it At that time the motion was taken under
$1,000,000
insist is
advisement. The court denied the motion
exceeded
the maximum amount if there was
and memorandum and order dated Novem-
(R.O.A.
18, 1983,
jeop-
and held
transaction rather than two
Vol.
ber
(R.Vol. 1,
212).
p.
p.
allegation
ardy
pp.
claim had been waived
34 and Vol.
278-290).
pp.
100-112 and
This
appellants
two indictments
Vol.
was
timely
presented, although purporting
appeal
filed on November
(R.O.A.
p.
separate conspiracies, actually charged
p.
Vol.
113 and Vol.
291).
parts
single
conspir-
overall
212).
(R.O.A.
acy
p.
p.
34 and Vol.
Vol.
question
here is whether the double
Fifth
government
filed a
clause of the
Amendment of
The United States
appellants’
on March the
Constitution was violated
response to
motions
United States
*27
Ray
C. Broce and Broce Construc-
tions before a New York State Grand Jury
Company,
punished
tion'
Inc. were
twice for
grant
after a
immunity.
of
He was ad-
single
offense.
judged in contempt and sentenced to 30
days
jail.
This he
Approximate-
served.
jeopardy
The result to the
claim
ly
years
ten
later he was indicted for the
plea
of entering
guilty
conspir-
of
to the
same conduct.
asserting
After
unsuccess-
acy charge is to
origi-
add more fuel to the
fully,
court,
in state
the indictment
plea
nal fire. The fact
guilty
that a
of
was
violated the
jeopardy
prescription of
confirming by
entered results in
the de-
Amendment,
the Fifth
pleaded
he
guilty to
fendants of both transactions.
the indictment. He
appealed again
then
.
great dispute
There is no
about the dou-
raising the double jeopardy claim. The
ble
clause of the Fifth Amend-
Appeals
New York Court of
declined to
prohibiting
ment
multiple pun-
infliction of
address the double jeopardy claim on the
ishment for the same offense. There is
merits, holding that it had been
by
waived
essentially
dispute
no
that if these indict-
plea
Menna’s counseled
of guilty.
ments
reflected one
The
Supreme
United States
Court re-
appellant
punished
is not to be
twice. The
per
versed in a
curiam decision which held
appeal
essence of this
is that the two trans-
precluded
that where the state
by
actually
actions were
divided into two sub-
United States Constitution
hauling
parts,
procedural
one
and one factual.
defendant into court
a charge,
federal
First,
procedural question:
Did the
requires that
charge
law
conviction on that
defendants waive their claims to double
be set aside even if conviction was entered
jeopardy?
pursuant
plea
to a counseled
guilty.
of
Second, do the
by
facts
admitted
question
The
holding
is whether this
appellant
pleading guilty
allow this court
proper authority
proposition
for the
that a
to find that there was
conspiracy,
claim of double
by
is not defeated
rather than two?
intervening plea
guilty.
an
of
The decision
is confused
court’s statement
Jeopardy
Waiver
the Double
Claim
of
Footnote No. 2 to its decision. The Su-
general
preme
rule on waiver of constitu-
Court ruled that it “did not hold that
tional
may
claims is that a defendant waives all
a double
claim
never be
waived,
objections
plea
simply
constitutional nature when
but
held that a
voluntarily
he
knowingly
plea
guilty
charge
enters a
to a
does not waive a claim
guilty.
Henderson,
judged
Tollett v.
on its face—the
is one
that —
258, 93
guilty plea repre-
constitutionally
S.Ct.
which the state
“[A]
prosecute.”
sents a break in the chain of events which
preceded
process.
has
it in the criminal
en-
the instant case
defendants
solemnly
When a criminal defendant has
plea
gaged
widespread
bargaining.
open
admitted
court that he is in fact
$750,000
They paid
years
fine. Two
later
guilty of the offense with which he is
renege
years
the defendant tried to
charged, may
he
not thereafter raise inde-
argued by
paying.
after
It was
the defend-
pendent
relating
deprivation
claims
to the
they
charged twice. This
ants that
rights
prior
of constitutional
that occurred
was
on a new idea that he could
based
entry
guilty plea.”
Id at
guilty
challenge
plea
he —that
defendant part if one transaction both generally man must accepts them. Such a pertained highway. They to the same do the facts. proceed with the burden of highways completely not. geographical locations. different Two Conspiracy From One Third, passed months several. between from the apparent It is above completion of contract number one and similarity of the depend on the defendants undertaking of contract number two. Thus, question. the contracts form of chronological gap implies This that there *29 same; are the they say that these contracts transactions. were two conspiracy. They argue part the same Fourth, persuades they this also that calling a result of their the two that as thinking at the time of the vari- were not they that automati- contracts one contract signings just ous that this was one transac- They neglect cally this character. assume being if tion. This the case there had been positive point to each con- facts which keep it under one roof there an effort having They character. an individual tract only agreement have been would separate times and in entered at two were the two roads. In fact the roads separate places. two appears projects It that these two fell places different involved are located at being aspect one. The double was short The fact that the two are not connected. after-thought brought clearly an which was has no conse- are similar form contracts years too late to of service to about two be utilizing a quence. Lawyers are noted for defend- these defendants. How could the Therefore, the fact that two form. money their after two ants demand back suggest are similar does not that contracts court, years passed? has The district they identical. It could be said that the are O’Conner, reached the conclusion copied from an earlier second contract was distinct transactions that these were two existing contract. When the second con- punished company pursued thus the defendant was was executed the tract defendants tried to cure independent job. Finally, another No twice. and obtained conspiracy change by saying this fact. that one wishing problem can amount entire work of Broce Co. permeated the position is Part of the defendants’ that con- examination of two But a careful Ray the sentences of the defendants C. they clearly represent that tracts reveals Company, Broce and Broce Construction “conspiracy” The transactions. distinct Inc., of the double are violation long after the creation of came to life Fifth Amendment of the Unit- clause of the Although to have it seemed contracts. ground ed States Constitution in an effort to brought to the surface been being punished multiplicity they in that it jeopardy claim. But the double establish single There are so twice for a offense. fails. that these many features that demonstrate indictments were based on individual two The Conclusion
transactions. reveals that the defendants being record are several reasons for There any rights all under the double First, waived these transactions two transactions. when clause. This came about they If had contracts. had different voluntary pleas agreed to they per- the defendants single contract wished to have Broce’s release guilty. It was not until brought dam- of have about less haps could they came forward with prison referring in that aging result if But even their present claims. writing a their provisions instead of various rights under the double Paragraph clause sists of 1 which is divided into waived, guilty pleas were not admit the three sub-paragraphs, (a), (b), (c). The sub- indictments, facts in the both of which paragraphs define “highway the terms con- plainly acknowledge conspira- struction”, “highway construction con- that, cies. Not readily facts re- tract” and highways”, respec- “federal-aid theory veal that no under could their con- tively. Section II entitled “defendants” duct be ruled to part single larger of a and consists of Paragraphs 2 and 3. Para- conspiracy. The attempt by the defendants graph alleges Ray C. Broce is Presi- put a single larger conspiracy forth fails dent and R. Gerald Gumm is General Man- miserably. through The trial court saw ager of Broce Company. Construction past efforts to restore a which itself paragraph further identifies that Broce fails. The result that seek does not Construction Company corporation is a or- emerge. ganized under the laws of the State of argument is that Broce has continu- Kansas which does particularly business ously object been of Dodge City, Kansas. Paragraph 3 states gain realize excessive at the reference an act corpora- expense of Kansas and United States tax- tion means that corporation acted payers. The defendants here do not hes- through agents, its officers or etc. while acknowledge itate to this. This demand they actively engaged in manage- seeks to payments undo the which the ment, corporation. etc. of a *30 punishment court assessed as for their mis- Much of the remaining space is devoted deeds. to the similarity wording of the various To allow them contrary to this is obtain provisions in each proves indictment. It including law Congress, laws of anything. little if repeats repeats It and but also the United States Constitution. more of the materials in the two indict- In precedent addition it set a would ments. which could allow to disregard courts the Section III “co-conspirators” is entitled United States laws in favor of their own and Paragraph only. consists of This judge ideas. The rejected this case these latter paragraph per- states that various upheld efforts and accept the law. To the sons and firms not partic- made defendants position majority of the would favor these ipated co-conspirators in the offense defendants and system would create a charged performed and acts and made undoing which tolerates the pleas of statements in furtherance thereof. guilty. This at least would weaken the system adopted of law which was in 1789. Section IV is entitled “trade and com- general Besides developments the here merce” paragraphs. and it consists five suggested, it system would leave a which Paragraph 5 asserts that federal aid criminals manipulate according could highways, including highway the which is money. will and their indictment, subject the part Finally, no justify laws or rules could nationwide inter-connecting network result which holds out consequence which highways over interstate which commerce they here demand. violations can More is conducted. expected if the apply criminals can that Paragraph 6 that there states exists un- they wish rather than that which Act, der Highway the they agree Federal Aid to. seq., et cooperative C.2d effort on APPENDIX part the govern- of states and the federal ment, Kansas, including the Count I of State of Indictment consists of fif- teen paragraphs development high- numbered divided into construction of sev- and en designated by ways, sections I through including highway VII. which is the I is Section headed “Definitions” subject and con- of this indictment. among conspir-
forth other effects (a) acy: prices it Paragraph alleges that caused the for the that the State during project to be maintained as period the time of the indict- artificial and Kansas levels; non-competitive (b) sought it caused competitive ment sealed bids from competition highway construction construction of the contractors. project eliminated; (c) to be that it caused Paragraph requires 8 states that Kansas State Kansas be denied the $1,000 highway projects over be bid competitive project; to receive bids on the competitively. Paragraph explains , (d) that it caused State of Kansas bidding regulations require Kansas a state- and the United States to be denied the Paragraph ment of non-collusion in it. competition project. benefits of travelling that materials in inter- states words, showing other is unmistaken high- used in state commerce were Kansas inasmuch as it establishes violation of the way projects including the one which is the Sherman and admits it candor. Act subject say indictments. To conspiracy designed Thus order bidding regulations require Kansas a state- law; to avoid the the Sherman Act. The super- ment of non-collusion in each bid object was to set aside the Sherman Act nothing fluous inasmuch as there is but group favor of a small of contractors who throughout collusion all of these briefs. compete. do not Their is to fix effort They have undertaken to set forth all of prices among the selected few. The United matters; the contractual at the same but sought prosecute Government they allege time that these were evidences participants litigation by these and the of collusion. At the same time back ignores simply contractors this effort. away from this conclusion time a law Unquestionably violation comes into view. VII, part, Another Section is entitled appellants R. Gerald Gumm “jurisdiction and venue”. It undertakes conspired suppress others unknown Paragraph 15 to reveal that the competition eliminate for the construction was formed and carried out within the Dis- Highway Project of Kansas No. 23-60- during years following five trict of Kansas R.S.1080(9)in violation Sherman Act (R.O.A. the return of the indictment. Vol. *31 (15 1). U.S.C. § 2, 140) p. Paragraph conspiracy 12 states that the II pri- Count of Indictment No. 1 is not agreement. alleges was set forth in the It marily appeal involved and accord- understanding that there was and concert ingly, nothing there gained by is to be among conspirators. of action The sub- summarizing it. (a) conspiracy stantial terms of a to project allocate construction named organized great Indictment No. is with (b) Company; Broce Construction to ce- designated by care. It has seven sections collusive, non-competitive rigged ment and headings The roman numerals. section bids to the State of Kansas in connection identical to those in Indictment No. 1. project. alleges Paragraph with the similarity goes. That is as far as the that overt acts were committed. These consists fourteen numbered (a) discussing the included submission paragraphs. entitled “defini- Section (b) projects; designating on the bids Paragraph tions” consists of No. 1 which is (c) project; successful low on the bidder (b), (a) sub-paragraphs into divided intentionally high the submission bids “highway the term construc- which define (d) co-conspirators; submitting bids con- “highway construction contrac- tion” and false, taining fictitious and fraudulent tor”, (R.O.A. 1, 1) respectively. p. Vol. entries; (e) discussing statements of those are identical definitions terms prospective the submission of bids on other given in I of to the definitions Section projects April let of Kansas on State 1, No. difference in the Indictment (R.O.A. 139-140) 2, pp. 1978. Vol. being two sections that Indictment No. high- VI is “effects” and it fails to define the term “federal-aid Section labeled ways.” Paragraph consists of 14. This latter sets
of commencement of the conspiracy, in or II Section entitled “defendants” consists July, about Paragraph 1979. 11 is identical (R.O.A. Paragraphs pp. 2 and 3 Yol. Paragraph 12 of except Indictment No. 1 1-2). Paragraph is identical to the same project number and date letting paragraph in Indictment No. 1 except in subparagraph (a) and the reference to it contains no reference Gerald R. project “public highway as a project”, ' exactly Paragraph Gumm. 3 is identical to rather than highway “federal-aid Paragraph 3 of Indictment No. 1. project.” “co-conspirators” III is entitled Paragraph
Section 12 of Indictment No. 2 is iden- (R.O.A. Paragraph 4. and consists of Vol. tical in charging overt acts in furtherance 2)p. Section III is identical to Section of a in Paragraph 13 of Indict- III of Indictment No. 1. ment 1. exception No. referring numbers, the different project sub-para- Trade and Commerce (e) graph being only exception. Indict- ment (e) No. sub-paragraph alleges a IV which is entitled Section “trade and payment discussion of the of consideration Paragraphs commerce” consists of to another contractor and in Indictment No. (R.O.A. 2-3) through pp. 9. Vol. Para- 1, sub-paragraph (e) alleges the discussion IV, graph 5 is identical to Section Para- projects. submission of bids on other graph except 5 of Indictment No. that it begins “public highways”, the words Section VI entitled “effects” consists of high- instead of the words “federal-aid (R.O.A. Paragraph 5) page Vol. It ways”. This feature does not lack truth. identity has to Section VI of Indictment highways” The term “federal-aid is correct 1 except No. description for the exactly because federal aid was what it project “public as a highway project” rath- Undoubtedly money was. federal was the er than highway a “federal-aid project”, important object in project. the entire and there is the elimination of a reference (d). United States sub-paragraph
Paragraph IV, 6 is identical to Section Paragraph 7 of Indictment No. 1. Para- “jurisdiction Section VII is entitled graph IV, 7 is identical to Section Para- Paragraph venue” and consists of 14 of the graph Paragraph Indictment No. 1. (R.O.A. 6)p. indictment. Vol. Section IV, identical to Paragraph Section 9 of VII of Indictment No. 2 is identical to Sec- Indictment 1. Paragraph No. 9 is identical tion VII of Indictment No. 1. Paragraph 10 of Indictment No. 1. The only major difference between Sections IV
of the two indictments is that Indictment paragraph describing
No. contains a state co-operation
and federal under Federal *32 (15 Highway
Aid Act U.S.C. seq.). et § Paragraph
See 6 of Indictment 1.No. Indictment No. deals with a completely America, STATES of UNITED building different for the high- area Plaintiff-Appellee, way headings and it uses various and dis- cussions. Thus Section V of Indictment CREWS, Jr., Marvin Arnesto charged” No. entitled “offense consists Defendant-Appellant. Paragraphs through 12 of the indict- No. 84-2211. Paragraph ment. 10 is identical to Para- graph 11 of Section V of Indictment No. 1 Appeals, United States Court of except project for the number. In Indict- Tenth Circuit. project ment No. number is K.R.L. Jan. 29-2(26); letting, July the date of the bid description project 1979. The “public highway project” rather than a highway project”, “federal-aid and the date
