I.
Thе issue on this appeal is whether a probationer who provides incriminating information to his probation officer in response to questions from that officer, and does so pursuant to a probation condition that requires him to “promptly and truthfully answer all reasonable inquiries” from the officer or face revocation of his probation, is “compelled” to give incriminating evidence within the meaning of the Fifth Amendment. Because we conclude that the state tоok the “impermissible step” of requiring the probationer “to choose between making incriminating statements and jeopardizing his conditional liberty by remaining silent,”
Minnesota v. Murphy,
II.
Phata Saechаo pled guilty to a state felony offense and was sentenced to state probation. The felony, which involved an act of domestic violence, was his first. The day after his plea, Saechao met with his intake officer, Heather Fowler, to review the conditions of his probation. Condition number 11 required Saechao to “promptly and truthfully answer all reasonable inquiries by the Department of Correction or County Community Correction Agencies,” and condition number 12 prohibited him from possessing “weapons, firearms, or dangerous animals.” The terms of his probation also provided that failure to comply with any of the conditions was grounds for arrest, revocation of probation, or modification of conditions. Sae-chao signed the probation form, but was not asked by Fowler at the time whether he possessed a firearm. After the intake meeting, Saechao was told to call the domestic violence unit to report to his assigned рrobation officer within a week’s time.
After the intake meeting, Saechao was assigned to Probation Officer Andrew Altman of the domestic violence unit for the supervision of his probation. Saechao attempted to contact Altman several times over the next month and finally had his first meeting with Altman over a month after his initial intake interview with Fowler. According to Altman’s testimony, the meeting was designed to “figure out the personal needs of [the probationer] ..., [to] try and assess the compliance with the conditions of supervision, [to] make sure [the probationer is] very clear about what the conditions are, [to] review them again, ... [and to] get [his] expectations to them.”
Altman began the meeting by reviewing once again the conditions of Saechao’s probation, including the requirement that Sae-chao “promptly and truthfully answer” Altman’s inquiries. Altman then began the interview, during which he repeatedly asked whether Saechao possessed a firearm. As a result of Altman’s questioning, Saechao eventually acknowledged that there was a 30.06 hunting rifle that he used for deer hunting in the apartment that he shared with his parents, a rifle that *1076 he possessed legally prior to the time of his conviction. Possession of the firearm became illegal under the felon-in-possession statute upon Saechao’s felony conviction. See 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1). Altman later testified that it was clear from the interview that Saechao had been concerned аbout the rifle even before the meeting, but that he “didn’t know what to do with the firearm. He had paid money for the firearm. It was worth money, and he hadn’t made a decision what to do with it at [that] point.”
After Saechao’s admission of “possession,” Altman explained the seriousness of his conduct and convinced Saechao to accompany him and Probation Officer Matthew Ferguson back to the apartment Sae-chao shared with his parents so that the officers could remove the rifle. After speaking with his parents, Saechao directed the officers to a room where Altman and Ferguson confiscated an unloaded 30.06 hunting rifle from underneath the mattress. Altman and Ferguson then left. Saechao was not arrested at the time.
Altman later discussed the case with his supervisor and decided that instead of excusing Saechao’s violation, or even pursuing a revocation of probation, they would turn the evidence over to the federal authorities so that they could initiate a federal prosecution against him for possession of a firearm by a convicted felon. Altman acknowledged that the referral to federal authorities was not routine. 1 A month later, the federal authorities arrested Sae-chao and charged him with being a felon in possession of a firearm in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1).
The district court granted Saechao’s motion to suppress his statements to Altman. It found that Saechao “did not have free choice to refuse to answer questions about firearms precisely because those questions related to a specific condition of his probation.” United States v. Saechao, No. CR 03-447-RE (D.Or. Mar. 5, 2004) (opinion and order granting the defendant’s motion to suppress statements). Thus, the district court concluded, the statements were “compelled,” in violation of the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution. The United States appeals the suppression order.
III.
We must determine whether Saechaо was compelled by threat of penalty to answer his probation officer’s questions regarding his possession of firearms. In
Murphy,
the Supreme Court explained that if a state attaches “[t]he threat of punishment for reliance on the privilege” against self-incrimination by asserting either
“expressly or by implication ...
that invocation of the privilege would lead to revocation of probation ... the probationer’s answers would be deemed compelled and inadmissible in a criminal prosecution.”
Id.
at 435,
*1077
As a general rule, “the [Fifth] Amendment speaks of compulsion.... If [an individual] desires the protection of the privilege, he must claim it or he will not be considered to have been ‘compelled’ within the meaning of the Amendment.”
Id.
at 427,
One instance in which an individual is held to have been denied the free choice to admit, to deny, or to refuse to answer is what the Court refers to as a “penalty situation.”
2
Id.
If an individual’s refusal to answer incriminating questions subjects him to a penalty, then the Fifth Amendment is self-executing and any statements made under threat of such penalty are inadmissible.
3
In the probatiоnary context, this means that although the state is permitted to require a probationer to “appear and discuss matters affecting his probationary status,” the probationer may not be required under threat of revocation of probation to respond to “questions put to [him], however relevant to his probationary status, [that] call for answers that would incriminate him in a pending or later criminal proceeding.”
Id.
The key to whether the Fifth Amendment is self-executing in probаtion cases lies in the following statement by the Court: “[I]f the State, either
expressly or by implication,
asserts that invocation of the privilege would lead to revocation of probation, it would have created the classic penalty situation, the failure to assert the privilege would be excused, and the probationer’s answers would be deemed compelled and inadmissible in a criminal prosecution.”
Id.
(emphasis added). As the Supreme Court explained, in order for a court to determinе whether a probationer is subject
*1078
to a penalty situation, it “must inquire whether [his] probation conditions merely required him to appear and give testimony about matters relevant to his probationary status or whether they went further” by taking “the extra, impermissible step” of requiring him “to choose between making incriminating statements and jeopardizing his conditional liberty by remaining silent.”
Id.
at 436,
Although the Supreme Court in
Murphy
set forth the governing legal standard for a classic penalty situation, it ultimately found that Murphy’s admission was not compelled under threat of penalty because of the particular nature of his probation conditions. The Supreme Court first found that Murphy’s probation conditions did not actually require him to answer his probation officer’s inquiry.
Id.
at 437,
The government argues that a probationer is subject to threat of penalty only when the state explicitly announces that it *1079 will impоse a penalty for the invocation of his Fifth Amendment rights — that an announcement that it will punish him for any failure to answer a question is not sufficient. In order to violate Murphy, the government asserts, Oregon must specifically state to the probationer: “we will revoke your probation if you invoke your Fifth Amendment privilege.” We reject the government’s argument. Not only is it contrary to the plain language of the Supreme Court’s decision in Murphy, but also to the Oregon state court’s interpretation of its own probation conditions.
Murphy
held that a penalty situation is created if there is a “reasonable basis for concluding that [the state] attempted to attach an impermissible penalty to the exercise of the privilege against self-incrimination.”
Id.
at 437.
Murphy
also explained that a state creates a classic penalty situation if it “expressly or
by implication
” suggests “that invocation of the privilege would lead to revocation of probation.”
Id.
at 435,
The government’s argument also runs counter to the interpretation of Oregon’s probation conditions by the Oregon state courts.
5
In
State v. Gaither,
The government next puts a slightly different twist on its basic argument by asserting that even if Oregon’s probation conditions foreclosed Saechao’s ability simply to remain silent, and required him to answer the prоbation officer’s inquiry, Sae-chao could have satisfied the conditions by “promptly answerpng] the question by invoking the privilege, or promptly askfing] for clarification, or promptly seeking] legal advice on whether the privilege applies.” We reject this creative recasting of its argument.
The government’s contention is based on an incorrect reading of the probation condition at issue. Saechao was required to “promptly and truthfully answer all reasonable inquiries.” The condition did not simply require a prompt statement of some kind — such as a statement setting forth a reason for not answering the question. Rather, the condition expressly requires an answer to the question being asked. A verbal invocation of the right to remain silent followed by the act of not responding to incriminating questions is, by definition, not answering a question, let alone providing a prompt and truthful answer. A refusal to answer, even if it could somehow be called an answer, constitutes neither a truthful nor an untruthful response. It is non-substantive in nature. For that reason alone, invoking the privilege, asking for clarification, or seeking legal advice, could not satisfy the requirement for a prompt and truthful answer.
The Eleventh Circuit, confronted with a nearly identical probation condition, explicitly rejected the argument that by “answering” a probation officer’s inquiry with an invocation of the Fifth Amendment, the probationer would comply with an obligation to answer or respond to his probаtion officer’s inquiries and thereby avoid a revocation of his probation. In
United States v. Robinson,
In light of the Eleventh Circuit’s holding in Robinson and that circuit’s acceptance of the United States’ position that invoking the Fifth Amendment does not constitute compliance with a condition similar to that at issue here, we reject its assertion of the contrary argument in this case. We find it troubling that the United States, having successfully sought revocatiоn of probation in the past for the very conduct that it suggests Saechao should have engaged in here, now assures us unabashedly that such conduct would not justify the revocation of Saechao’s probation.
In sum, we hold that the district court did not err in suppressing the fruits of the state’s impermissiblv coercive penaltv threat. Saechao was indeed “compelled” to incriminate himself under threat of probation revocation. He was instructed on two occasiоns that his probation conditions required him,
inter alia,
to “promptly and truthfully answer all reasonable inquiries” and the terms of his probation provided that a failure to comply could result in its revocation. Moreover, the state did not advise him that “it would not, [or] legally could not, revoke probation for refusing to answer questions calling for information that would incriminate in separate criminal proceedings.”
Murphy,
IV.
The Fifth Amendment proscribes the use in a separate criminal proceeding of a statement obtained pursuаnt to a probation condition that requires a probationer to “choose between making incriminating statements and jeopardizing his conditional liberty by remaining silent.”
Id.
at 436,
Affirmed.
Notes
. Probation Officer Ferguson, who worked with Altman, explained that when a probation officer first meets with a probationer and learns that he is in possession of a rifle, “it is kind of a rule of thumb” that the probation officer give the probationer “24 hours to have someone else take possession of the rifle, get it out of the home ... give [them] some time to get that disposed of” instead of filing for revocation of probation or other criminal proceedings outright.
. Other exceptions include custodial interrogations and gambler’s excise taxes, neither of which is relevant to our analysis.
See Murphy,
. Addressing these penalty cases, “the Court has held that loss of job, loss of state contracts, loss of future contracting privileges with the state, loss of political office, loss of the right to run for political office in the future, and revocation of probation all are 'penalties' that cannot be imposed on the exercise of the privilege.”
United States v. Frierson,
. We construe “reasonable” to be a limitation regarding relevance. The questions must bear a reasonable relationship to a subject of legitimate inquiry. The government does not contend, quitе correctly, that the reasonableness requirement excuses failures to respond to questions that would elicit incriminating information or permits the invocation of the Fifth Amendment.
. In
Murphy,
the Court was influenced by the fact that Minnesota, the state that imposed the probation conditions, represented that it could not (and would not) have revoked the defendant's probation had the probationer invoked the Fifth Amendment.
Id.
at 438-39,
. The government argues that the
Gaither
decision actually supports its position because it affirms
State v. Tenbusch,
