OPINION
Defendant Alberto Moncivais appeals his sentence of 336 months imprisonment imposed following a guilty plea. Defendant pled guilty to one count of conspiracy to *655 possess with intent to distribute cocaine in violation of 21 U.S.C. §§ 841(a)(1) and 846. On appeal, Defendant contends that: (1) the district court erred by sentencing him based on evidence that was inadmissible as a matter of law due to its unreliability; (2) the district court erred by concluding that Defendant was an “organizer or leader” and enhancing his advisory United States Sentencing Guidelines (“Guidelines” or “U.S.S.G.”) range by four points pursuant to U.S.S.G. § 3B1.1(a); (3) the government breached the plea agreement; (4) the district court violated Defendant’s right to due process by finding facts at sentencing by a preponderance of the evidence; and (5) the district court violated Defendant’s rights under the Confrontation Clause by admitting testimonial hearsay at sentencing, notwithstanding the fact that the declarant did not testify, and Defendant had not had an opportunity to cross-examine the declarant.
For the reasons stated below, we AFFIRM Defendant’s conviction and sentence.
BACKGROUND
Jerome and Anthony Davis were arrested on April 6, 2001, after providing undercover law enforcement officers with ten kilograms of cocaine. The Davis brothers agreed to cooperate, and their efforts led law enforcement officials to their supplier, Ruben Laurel, and ultimately to Defendant, a co-conspirator. Defendant was arrested at the Memphis airport on April 9, 2001, and subsequently indicted on several counts of conspiracy to distribute cocaine.
After Defendant filed a motion to suppress, which was denied, Defendant entered into a plea agreement (the “Agreement”). He agreed to plead guilty to conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute approximately 68 kilograms of cocaine as charged in count one of a superseding indictment. The government agreed to move for dismissal of count two of the superseding indictment at sentencing. Consistent with the quantity of 68 kilograms of cocaine charged in the superseding indictment, paragraph 5 of the Agreement stated that “[f]or the purpose of calculating the base offense level pursuant to [U.S.S.G. § 2D1.1], the United States agrees to recommend that the relevant conduct which is readily provable as to the defendant would result in a base offense level of 36.” J.A. at 123. Paragraph seven of the Agreement provided that:
7. The government agrees that it will not recommend or request a sentencing enhancement for the defendant’s role in the offense (§ 3B1.1) during the preparation of the Presentence Investigation Report (PSR). In this regard, Mr. MONCIVAIS understands that the government’s position is not binding on the court or the probation office and that if the court does apply an enhancement for leadership role, he will not be allowed to withdraw his plea of guilty. This is not intended to limit either party in responding to issues raised at the sentencing hearing.
J.A. at 123-24. As a result of the Agreement, the district court issued an order changing Defendant’s plea to guilty on June 10, 2002.
Instead of recommending a Guidelines base offense level of 36, as called for in the Agreement, the presentence investigation report (“PSR”) prepared by the probation office recommended that the district court determine Defendant’s Guidelines base offense level to be 38. The probation office made this recommendation after the government provided the probation office with information the government had obtained *656 from Ruben Laurel, -a co-conspirator. 1 The information provided by Laurel suggested that Defendant had been involved in the conspiracy since it began in September of 2001 (as opposed to coming in after the initial period as Defendant claimed), and, consequently, he was responsible for a substantially higher quantity of drugs. Instead of the 68 kilograms of cocaine stated in the plea agreement, the PSR calculated Defendant’s recommended Guidelines range based on 299 kilograms of cocaine and over 1,000 kilograms of marijuana. The PSR also recommended a four-level enhancement for Defendant’s role in the offense as an “organizer or leader of criminal activity that involved five or more participants or was otherwise extensive.” J.A. at 550; see U.S.S.G. § 3B1.1(a). The probation office relied heavily on information that the government obtained from Laurel in making these recommendations. Defendant filed timely objections to the PSR.
Defendant’s first sentencing hearing took place on November 4, 2002. The government, through the testimony of Thomas Boock of the Drug Enforcement Agency Task Force, offered into evidence a “DEA 6,” which was a report, entitled “Proffer Statement of Ruben Laurel.” J.A. at 355. Defendant objected to this statement on the ground that it constituted unreliable hearsay. One ■ of the government’s witnesses, Seanda Reed of the probation office, stated that this statement was used by the probation department to determine the relevant offense conduct when calculating Defendant’s recommended base offense level in the PSR.
At sentencing, the government supported the Guidelines enhancement for Defendant’s role in the offense, and it did not strenuously contest the probation office’s recommendation as to the drug quantities. Although “the government [ ] reiterated its recommendation concerning quantity,” (ie., that the quantity of cocaine should be determined to be 68 kilograms), it also stated that “[t]he court has heard proof now, and we will submit that to the court” (which tended to show that the actual quantity was higher). J.A. at 385. The government also argued that the evidence demonstrated that Defendant was an organizer or leader, and that the applicable Guidelines range should be enhanced by four levels on account of this conduct on the part of Defendant.
The district court discussed Laurel’s proffer in detail:
[T]he statement of Laurel as summarized in the report is richly detailed and is within itself entirely consistent. It is consistent also with the facts, though it contains a great deal more detail than the facts known by the court at the time of the change of plea____
The. statement of Laurel, though, goes on for 10 or 11 pages, ... and provides an extraordinary amount of detail with respect to the way in which he met Mr. Moncivais, the dealings the two of them had, the loyalty Mr. Moncivais displayed or purported at least to Mr. Laurel when he learned that Mr. Laurel had not turned his name over as the marijuana supplier when Mr. Laurel was first arrested and went to prison and the dealings that emanated from, that earlier relationship and' went on for a period of years culminating here in Memphis.
The statement is not only internally consistent and full of detail, but I find that it is essentially a credible statement, and it is a statement which certainly has the kinds of indicia of reliability that make it appropriate for receipt and for consider *657 ation as evidence in a sentencing calculation. It exceeds, in other words, the minimum indicia of reliability that the Sixth Circuit has instructed sentencing judges to identify when considering otherwise nonadmissible evidence, that is evidence that would not be admissible under the rules of evidence. This is hearsay. Even so, it has attributes of being admissible hearsay in that it is a statement against penal interest and substantially against penal interest, and it exposes or would tend to expose Mr. Laurel to very high levels of sentencing enhancement for his own activities which include organizing activities with respect to the delivery of cocaine and marijuana here in Memphis.
J.A. at 406-08. The district court found that, based primarily on Laurel’s proffer statement, the correct Guidelines base offense level was 38.
The district court next concluded that Defendant was an organizer or leader for the purpose of U.S.S.G. § 3Bl.l(a). The district court identified at least five participants. This included “four individuals that were nothing other than drivers,” Laurel, the four sub-distributors (the Davis brothers, “Pettis,” and a man nicknamed “Dook-ie”), and other participants. J.A. at 413. The district court concluded that “from the presentence report and from Laurel’s statement, I would estimate the number of participants to be probably ten or 12 minimal.” J.A. at 413. The: district court also found that Defendant’s behavior demonstrated that he was an organizer or leader. This finding was based on Laurel’s proffer and a surreptitiously recorded telephone call between Laurel, Anthony Davis, and Defendant. 2 The district court considered the telephone call particularly significant because Laurel was “begging [Defendant] to listen to what [Anthony Davis] had to say” and Defendant “figuratively turned his back” on Davis and “figuratively looked Laurel in the eye and said, you know what you have to do. To me, that’s a pretty powerful indicator] of a supervisory relationship. He was giving orders.” J.A. at 415. The district court noted that, in order for the enhancement to be proper, it need not find that Defendant supervised five other individuals; instead, the enhancement was proper if Defendant supervised at least one individual, the criminal activity involved five individuals, and there was some evidence of Defendant’s organizational or leadership role. Defendant’s conduct, the district court concluded, satisfied this standard.
Finally, the district court held that, though Defendant did-not deserve an enhancement for obstruction of justice, he would not receive credit for acceptance of responsibility. After calculating the applicable Guidelines range, the district court sentenced Defendant to 360 months imprisonment, the bottom of the Guidelines *658 range, to be followed by five years of supervised release. Defendant filed a timely notice of appeal on November 14, 2002.
On March 24, 2005, this Court issued its opinion affirming Defendant’s conviction but vacating his sentence.
United States v. Moncivais,
Prior to his resentencing, Defendant renewed his objections to the PSR. On September 26, 2005, this case again came before the district court for resentencing in light of Booker. The district court reaffirmed its factual findings, calculated the same Guidelines range, arid again overruled Defendant’s objections to the PSR. The district- court then applied the 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a) factors, and concluded that Defendant’s minimum Guidelines sentence was “marginally too much, marginally an excessive sentence,” J.A. at 517; it therefore sentenced Defendant to a below-Guidelines term of 336 months imprisonment, to be followed by five years of supervised release. On September 30, 2005, Defendant filed a timely notice of appeal.
DISCUSSION
I. Laurel’s Proffer Statement Contained Sufficient Indicia of Reliability to be Admissible
Defendant’s first argument on appeal is that Laurel’s proffer statement was inadmissible at sentencing because it was hearsay that did not possess sufficient in-dicia of reliability. We review the district court’s determination of reliability for abuse of discretion,
United States v. Bowker,
Generally, the Federal Rules of Evidence do not apply to sentencing proceedings, Fed.R.Evid. 1101(d)(3), and hearsay evidence is admissible at sentencing.
United States v. Davis,
When any factor important to the sentencing determination is reasonably in dispute, the parties shall be given an adequate opportunity to present information to the court regarding that factor. In resolving any dispute concern *659 ing a factor important to the sentencing determination, the court may consider relevant information without regard to its admissibility under the rules of evidence applicable at trial, provided that the information has sufficient indicia of reliabiltiy to support its probable accuracy.
U.S.S.G. § 6A1.3 (emphasis added).
In
Silverman,
this Court, sitting en banc, concluded that this standard was also required as a matter of due process.
The evidence in this case, under the Guidelines and as a matter of due process, is clearly above the minimum standard of reliability required for the evidence to be admissible at sentencing. The district court found that Laurel’s statement was “richly detailed,” and was both internally and externally consistent. J.A. at 406. The district court also noted that the statement could conceivably be used to impeach Laurel if he subsequently testified to the contrary, and so even though it was offered under the promise of immunity, the possibility of the statement being used against Laurel’s penal interests bolstered its reliability. These factual findings establish that Laurel’s proffer statement was sufficiently reliable to be admitted at sentencing.
Compare United States v. Hunt,
Defendant contends that Laurel’s statement was inadmissible because statements from a co-defendant that shift blame onto the defendant are presumptively unreliable.
See, e.g., Lee v. Illinois,
Importantly, Defendant points to nothing about Laurel’s proffer statement that *660 suggests that it is unreliable, beyond its character as hearsay and the fact that Laurel was involved in the same conspiracy as Defendant. We have recently rejected an invitation to craft a rule that would consider co-conspirator hearsay “inherently unreliable,” and would thus render such evidence presumptively inadmissible at sentencing. Id. Here, the district court made detailed and extensive findings as to the reliability of Laurel’s proffer statement, and we accordingly hold that the district court did not err by admitting such evidence at sentencing.
II. The District Court did not Err by Concluding that Defendant was an Organizer or Leader
Next, Defendant argues that his sentence should be vacated because the district court enhanced his advisory Guidelines range by four points under U.S.S.G. § 3B1.1. We have not settled the question of what standard governs review of a sentencing enhancement under U.S.S.G. § 3B1.1. “Traditionally ... we reviewed the district court’s factual findings for clear error and its legal conclusions de novo.”
United States v. McDaniel,
Defendant makes two arguments as to why the district court erred in applying a § 3B1.1 enhancement when calculating his advisory Guidelines range. First, Defendant contends that the substance of his participation in the conspiracy did not establish that he was an organizer or leader. Second, Defendant argues that the relevant criminal activity involved an insufficient number of persons to support the enhancement. These arguments will be addressed below.
Pursuant to U.S.S.G. § 3B1.1(a), an enhancement of four levels is appropriate if the defendant “was an organizer or leader of a criminal activity that involved five or more participants or was otherwise extensive.” In making this determination, a court should consider:
the exercise of decision making authority, the nature of participation in the commission of the offense, the recruitment of accomplices, the claimed right to a larger share of the fruits of the crime, the degree of participation in planning or organizing the offense, the nature and scope of the illegal activity, and the degree of control and authority exercised over others.
United States v. Hernandez,
Here, the facts found by the district court support the conclusion that Defendant was an organizer or leader. The district court found that Defendant had demonstrated that he had held a leadership role by his conversation with Laurel on April 8, 2001. In that conversation, Defendant “figuratively looked Laurel in the eye and said, you know what you have to do,” and this was “a pretty powerful indicator] of a supervisory relationship. He was giving orders.” J.A. at 415. This fact demonstrates a significant “degree of control and authority exercised over others.”
Hernandez,
Defendant also argues that his advisory Guidelines range could not be enhanced under U.S.S.G. § 3B1.1(a) because the criminal activity in which he participated did not involve five or more persons. We note that the district court correctly concluded that it need not find that Defendant was an “organizer or leader” of five people in order to apply the enhancement. In addressing the analogous inquiry under § 3B1.1(b), which provides a three-level enhancement if the defendant was a “manager or supervisor (but not an organizer or leader),” this Court stated that “there need only be evidence to support a finding that the defendant was a manager or supervisor of at least one other participant in the criminal activity, and that the criminal activity involved five or more participants or was otherwise extensive.”
Henley,
Defendant argues that the facts of this case do not disclose the involvement of four other persons, because there is no evidence that Defendant controlled subsequent buyers, and therefore the Davis brothers and the persons to whom they sold cannot be counted for the purpose of § 3B1.1. Defendant relies on
United States v. Belletiere,
where .the-Third Circuit held that “[b]efore a supplier or customer may be deemed to have been a ‘controlled’ participant under § 3B1.1(a), the government must prove at least an interdependence between the defendant and the supplier or customer that would support an inference that the supplier or customer for personal use is answerable to the defendant.”
III. The Government did not Breach the Agreement
Defendant argues that the government breached the Agreement, and consequently, Defendant is entitled to specific performance in the form of a sentence calculated without reference to Laurel’s proffer statement. The construction of a plea agreement “presents a question of law which this court reviews
de novo." United States v. Fitch,
Defendant alleges that the government breached the Agreement in two distinct ways. First, Defendant argues that the government breached the Agreement by arguing at the sentencing hearing that Defendant’s sentence should be enhanced for his role in the offense. Second, Defendant contends that the government breached the Agreement by providing damaging information to the probation office.
*663 The pertinent provision of the Agreement states:
7. The government agrees that it will not recommend or request a sentencing enhancement for the defendant’s role in the offense (§ 3B1.1) during the preparation of the Presentence Investigation Report (PSR). In this regard, Mr. MONCIVAIS understands that the government’s position is not binding on the court or the probation office and that if the court does apply an enhancement for leadership role, he will not be allowed to withdraw his plea of guilty. This is not intended to limit either party in responding to issues raised at the sentencing hearing.
J.A. at 123-24 (emphasis added).
The plain language of the Agreement requires us to conclude that the government did not breach its obligations under the Agreement by arguing for á sentencing enhancement before the district court, because this occurred
after
the preparation of the PSR. The determina five factor in interpreting a plea agreement is not the parties’ actual understanding of the terms of the agreement; instead, an agreement must be construed as a reasonable person would interpret'its words.
United States v. Ykema,
Other provisions of the Agreement reinforce this interpretation. Paragraphs 5 and 6 of the Agreement both state that the government “agrees to recommend” certain courses of action, without specifying when or to whom the recommendation will be addressed. This supports the inference that the limitation of the government’s obligation in paragraph 7 was intentional, rather than the result of an oversight or careless drafting. The government therefore did not violate its obligations under paragraph 7 of the Agreement, because it did not recommend that Defendant receive a sentencing enhancement until after the PSR was completed.
Defendant principally relies upon
Fitch.
In
Fitch,
this Court had to give meaning to a provision in the plea agreement that stated that “the government-agrees to recommend that the defendant’s base offense level be calculated using 1000 pounds of marijuana and 1 kilogram of cocaine and that no other relevant conduct be used to increase the defendant’s base offense level.”
*664 Defendant’s second argument is that the government breached the Agreement by providing the probation office with the information upon which it relied in recommending that Defendant’s sentence be enhanced. 6 The government retorts that it did not recommend or advocate for a higher sentence, but merely provided the probation office with relevant factual information. The question therefore becomes whether providing factual information to the probation office constitutes “recommending] or requesting] a sentencing enhancement” under the terms of the Agreement. We conclude that it does not.
In the analogous case of
United States v. Levy,
Additionally, several cases draw an analogous line between advocacy, on one hand, and providing the district court with relevant factual information, on the other hand.
See, e.g., United States v. Munoz,
In this case, the plea agreement merely prohibited the government from “recommend[ing] or requesting] a sentencing enhancement.” J.A. at 123-24. Moreover, the information that the government provided to the probation office was necessary to correct false or incomplete statements *665 of fact made by Defendant. Because there is no indication that the government recommended to the probation office that Defendant receive an enhanced sentence, we hold that the government did not violate its obligations under the Agreement. This is true notwithstanding the fact that the government provided factual information to the probation office that caused that office to recommend that the district court enhance Defendant’s sentence.
IV. Defendant’s Constitutional Challenges Lack Merit
Defendant argues that his constitutional rights were violated in two ways. His arguments are without basis.- First, Defendant argues that the Fifth Amendment’s Due Process Clause requires that facts affecting the length of his sentence be determined by a jury beyond a reasonable doubt. We recently rejected this exact, proposition in
United States v. Gates,
Defendant also argues that the admission of testimonial hearsay against him at sentencing, where the declarant did not testify, and he had not had an opportunity to cross-examine the declarant, violated his rights under the Sixth Amendment’s Confrontation Clause. This argument fares no better. As Defendant recognizes, this Court recently ruled that the Confrontation Clause does not apply at sentencing.
United States v. Katzopoulos,
CONCLUSION
For the foregoing reasons, we AFFIRM Defendant’s conviction and sentence.
Notes
. The PSR attributes this information to an unidentified "Cooperating Source;” at the original sentencing hearing it was established that this information came from Laurel.
. The transcript of this telephone call was produced by a Spanish translator retained by Defendant; the government stipulated to its accuracy:
[Defendant]: Yeah.
[Laurel]: (unintelligible words) I have my friend the AD on the line.
[Defendant]: What for?
[Laurel]: Well he wants to talk to you.
[Defendant]: What for?
[Laurel]: For you to know that every thing is all right.
[Defendant]: But no, no, you know what you have to do. Are you going to go to eat right now?
(Inaudible voice .... of you all)
[Laurel]: Actually that's what I’m telling him.
[Anthony Davis]: Hello, Hello
[Defendant]: Yeah Ruben?
[Laurel]: Yeah
[Defendant]: Don't talk to me right now, please.
[Laurel]: All right.
United States v. Moncivais,
. Most of the authorities upon which Defendant relies focus on the now-overruled "indi-cia of reliability” standard that the Supreme Court set as a matter of the Sixth Amendment’s Confrontation Clause in
Ohio v. Roberts,
. Defendant argues that “[cjourts have found defendants to be leaders or organizers when they control such factors as the location, quantity, price, and participants in a drug transaction.” Defendant's Br. at 30;
see United States v. Ortiz,
. A potential tension exists between the reasoning of
Belletiere
and the principles underlying "chain” conspiracies. Drug distribution conspiracies may often take the form of “chain” conspiracies involving "numerous sales and resales of drugs until they reach the ultimate consumers,” and this Court has held that "in such circumstances a common scheme or plan can be inferred despite the absence of a formal agreement because of the interdependence of the enterprise.”
United States v. Lopez-Medina,
. Although the record does not disclose exactly what information the government provided to the probation office, the clear implication of Defendant’s argument is that the government was the source of the additional information ultimately provided by Laurel. The government does not dispute this implication.
