The government appeals the District Court’s suppression of the contents of a black pouch found during the search of a vehicle that had been lawfully pulled over for an investigative stop. The vehicle’s passenger, John Wayne Fleming, got out of the car upon a police officer’s request and asked the officer if he could retrieve a *960 black pouch located underneath the front passenger seat. The officer eventually agreed to retrieve the pouch on the condition that the officer would search the pouch to ensure it did not contain weapons. Upon opening the pouch, the officer discovered syringes filled with illegal drugs. Finding the search of the pouch to be reasonable to protect the officer’s safety, we reverse the suppression order.
I.
This case concerns a traffic stop in Al-toona, Iowa, in the early morning hours of October 13, 2001. Defendant Fleming was the passenger in a car driven by codefend-ant Michael Shranklen. At 1:40 a.m., Al-toona police officer Mark Harmon validly pulled the car over and placed Shranklen in the backseat of Harmon’s patrol car while he issued a citation to Shranklen for driving with a suspended license. 1 Harmon then returned to the car and approached Fleming, who sat in the front passenger’s seat.
Harmon asked Fleming to exit the car and to walk to the car’s rear. As Fleming got out of the car, he carried a flashlight. Concerned that Fleming could use the flashlight as a weapon, Harmon asked Fleming to hand it over to him. Fleming complied. At that moment, Harmon looked over his shoulder and saw that another Altoona policeman, Officer Tinker, had arrived on the scene. Harmon then turned back to Fleming, who said that he needed to return to the car to get a black pouch that was underneath the front passenger seat.
Harmon initially refused to allow Fleming to retrieve the pouch, explaining that it could contain a weapon. Harmon brought Fleming to his patrol car and, with Fleming’s consent, patted Fleming down for weapons and placed him in the patrol car. Harmon then offered to get the black pouch, although Harmon explained that he and Officer Tinker would first search the pouch for weapons. Harmon retrieved the pouch, opened it, and found new and used syringes containing illegal drugs. There is no indication in the record that, at the time of the incident, Fleming objected to Harmon’s search of the pouch.
Upon Fleming’s motion, the District Court suppressed the evidence from the search of the pouch. The government appeals the suppression order, and we reverse.
II.
We review de novo a district court’s determination of whether a search exceeded the permissible scope of an investigative stop.
United States v. Watts,
The government presented to the District Court, and repeats to this Court, two primary arguments explaining why the search of the black pouch was reasonable under the Fourth Amendment. First, the government contends that the pouch was subject to a valid inventory search.
See South Dakota v. Opperman,
It is undisputed that the specific reason for the search of the pouch was that Officer Harmon feared that the pouch contained a weapon that Fleming might use against Harmon and his partner. Although officer safety is one rationale that underlies both inventory searches and searches incident to arrest, the search of the pouch can be upheld without the bright-line rules set forth in
Opperman
and
Belton.
At any investigative stop— whether there is an arrest, an inventory search, neither, or both — officers may take steps reasonably necessary to protect their personal safety.
See United States v. Winters,
In
Terry,
the Supreme Court held that an officer may conduct a protective search for weapons, even without probable cause for arrest, where the officer has an articu-lable suspicion that an individual is armed and dangerous.
Noting that roadside stops, such as the one in this case, can be especially hazardous, the Supreme Court held in Long that
the search of the passenger compartment of an automobile, limited to those areas in which a weapon may be placed or hidden, is permissible if the police officer possesses a reasonable belief ... that the suspect is dangerous and the suspect may gain immediate control of weapons.
Id.
The officer’s reasonable belief must be based on “specific and articulable facts” that are “taken together with rational inferences from those facts.”
Terry,
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In examining the relevant facts and inferences, we must keep in mind that “minimally intrusive weapons searches” at traffic stops will more likely be reasonable because of the “inherent danger” of traffic stops.
United States v. Menard,
Two of our previous applications of
Long
demonstrate these principles. In
Watts,
officers, tipped off to suspicious activity, stopped a van with a driver and a passenger. Upon one officer’s request, the two men got out of the van and walked to the van’s rear. An officer looked into the van and saw three closed gun cases and one partially-open gun case with an exposed gun barrel. The officers then placed the two suspects in the backseat of their patrol car, conducted a search of the van, and discovered that the gun cases indeed contained guns. We found the search to be reasonable under the Fourth Amendment because one of the suspects — before he was arrested — might have been permitted to return to his vehicle, where he would have had access to the weapons inside.
Watts and Peoples illustrate that a search for weapons at an investigative stop can be reasonable even where suspects lack immediate access to weapons. Rather, it is enough that the suspects might be able to access the weapons stored in their vehicle. And it can be an important factor that the suspects, like those in Peoples, attempt to conceal a container so that the officers cannot examine it. With these precedents in mind, and with the principle of officer safety as our touchstone, we disagree with the District Court’s conclusion that “[t]here was ... no reason to believe that criminal mischief was afoot, other than that Shranklen had driven while his license was under suspension.” Hearing Tr. at 69.
The crucial fact that gave rise to Harmon’s concern for his safety was Fleming’s request for the black pouch, which was located underneath the passenger’s seat. Fleming indicated specific interest in the pouch, yet he offered no explanation as to why he needed it, nor did he explain why it was underneath the passenger’s seat rather than in a spot where it would have been more easily visible. That the pouch was underneath the seat suggests that Fleming was trying to conceal it. Moreover, the pouch was large enough to contain a knife *963 or gun. We find that it was reasonable for Harmon to search the pouch given that it could have held a weapon, that Fleming specifically asked for the pouch, and that the pouch was hidden in the car.
The circumstances surrounding the stop and the inferences that arose subsequently buttress our finding of reasonableness. First, the incident occurred at 1:40 a.m. Second, it took place on the side of a quiet road. Third, the record indicates that only traffic fights brightened the road. Fourth, neither Shranklen nor Fleming could prove ownership of the vehicle in which they were riding, and Shranklen was driving on a suspended license and Fleming carried a suspended license; from these facts, Harmon could infer that Shranklen and Fleming might have stolen the car and, therefore, might have weapons in the car that they used during the theft or had available in case they were discovered and sought to escape. In addition, Fleming held a flashlight, which could be used as a weapon, when he got out of the car. And although Shranklen was sitting in the patrol car and Fleming was outside the vehicle in which the black pouch was located, neither defendant was handcuffed or otherwise restrained. Either or both could have attempted to return to the vehicle and grab a weapon. This was our concern in Watts and Peoples and the Supreme Court’s concern in Long.
III.
In finding the search of the pouch to be reasonable, we wish to address three potentially confusing distinctions. First, we emphasize that the location of the pouch in relation to Fleming at any particular time has little impact on the constitutionality of the search. No matter whether the pouch was on Fleming’s person, in the car, or neither, the relevant principle — embodied in Terry and Long — is that an officer does not violate the Fourth Amendment by conducting a search to protect the safety of himself or others so long as the officer has reasonable suspicion that the suspect poses a danger. In this case, Harmon’s concern for his safety arose when Fleming asked for the concealed pouch. At that moment, the pouch was inside the vehicle, so Long governs. The situation did not become less dangerous, and the need to protect the officers did not become less important, when Harmon removed the pouch from the car. On the contrary, the pouch might have contained a weapon, and Fleming could have forced it from Harmon’s grip. Opening the pouch outside the car does not make the search less reasonable.
Second, it does not matter that the search was of a closed container; a valid Long search extends to closed containers, such as the pouch, that are found within the vehicle’s passenger compartment. Because the heart of Terry and Long is the safety of officers (and others), an officer may search a container found in a vehicle when that container might hold a weapon. We note in this regard the similarity here to Watts, where officers discovered gun cases in a van and proceeded to open them, finding weapons. The entire search in Watts was held to be reasonable because of the concern for protecting the officers from the dangers posed by the reasonably suspected presence of weapons.
Third, Harmon was not constitutionally required to pat down the pouch instead of opening it. Fourth Amendment reasonableness involves balancing the legitimate need to search with the privacy interest that is invaded.
Camara v. Mun. Court,
IV.
Under
Long,
if a valid search for weapons during a proper investigative stop of a vehicle results in the discovery of drugs rather than weapons, the officers need not ignore the drugs, and the Fourth Amendment does not require their suppression.
See Peoples,
Notes
. The parties dispute whether Shranklen was under arrest or had merely been issued a citation. Because we decide this case without considering whether or not there was a valid search incident to arrest, we do not reach the question of whether Shranklen was under arrest as a matter of law.
. In making this second ruling, the District Court created an exception, apparently for property belonging to a passenger who has not been arrested, to the rule that the contents of a vehicle, including closed containers in the vehicle, may be searched incident to an arrest. See
State v. Parker,
