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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v. MICHAEL ST. HUBERT

No. 16-10874

United States Court of Appeals, Eleventh Circuit

November 15, 2018

D.C. Docket No. 1:15-cr-20621-FAM-1; [PUBLISH]

Appeal from the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida

(November 15, 2018)

Before MARCUS, ANDERSON and HULL, Circuit Judges.

HULL, Circuit Judge:

We sua sponte vacate our panel opinion, United States v. St. Hubert, 883 F.3d 1319 (11th Cir. 2018) (“St. Hubert I”), and issue this new opinion. In this direct appeal, Michael St. Hubert challenges his two firearm convictions under 18 U.S.C. § 924(c) claiming his predicate Hobbs Act robbery and attempted robbery offenses do not constitute crimes of violence under § 924(c)(3). After oral argument in 2018, we affirmed St. Hubert's § 924(c) firearm convictions, concluding his predicate robbery offenses qualified as crimes of violence under both the residual and elements clauses in § 924(c)(3). St. Hubert I, 883 F.3d at 1327-34.

Below we expressly readopt and reinstate in full Sections I, II, III(A), and III(C) of our panel opinion in St. Hubert I just as previously written. Section III(B) of our prior opinion affirmed St. Hubert's convictions under the residual clause based on the panel opinion in Ovalles v. United States, 861 F.3d 1257 (11th Cir. 2017). In Section III(B), we again affirm under the residual clause, but do so based on our en banc decision in Ovalles v. United States, 905 F.3d 1231 (11th Cir. Oct. 4, 2018) (en banc) (“Ovalles II”). We also readopt and reinstate Section IV of our prior panel opinion with some additional analysis along the way.1

I. BACKGROUND FACTS

A. Indictment

On August 11, 2015, St. Hubert was indicted on thirteen counts in connection with a series of five robberies and one attempted robbery committed in southern Florida between December 23, 2014 and January 27, 2015. Counts 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, and 11 contained the six robbery counts. Five counts charged that St. Hubert committed a Hobbs Act robbery, and one count charged an attempted robbery, all in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1951(b).

Counts 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, and 12 were § 924(c) firearm counts and charged St. Hubert with knowingly using, carrying, and possessing a firearm during, in relation to, and in furtherance of a crime of violence, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)(1)(A). Each § 924(c) firearm count specifically identified and charged that the predicate crime of violence was one of the five Hobbs Act robberies or the attempted Hobbs Act robbery charged in the six substantive robbery counts. Each § 924(c) firearm count also charged St. Hubert with brandishing the firearm in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)(1)(A)(ii).

Count 13 charged St. Hubert with knowingly possessing a firearm and ammunition after having been previously convicted of a felony, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1).

Ultimately, St. Hubert pled guilty to the two § 924(c) firearm counts contained in Counts 8 and 12. Therefore, only Counts 8 and 12 (the firearm offenses), which expressly incorporated as predicates the robberies in Counts 7 and 11, are relevant to this appeal. We set out the allegations in those counts.

More specifically, Count 8 charged that St. Hubert used and carried a firearm during the Hobbs Act robbery in Count 7, stating that St. Hubert:

did knowingly use and carry a firearm during and in relation to a crime of violence, and did knowingly possess a firearm in furtherance of a crime of violence, an offense for which the defendant may be prosecuted in a court of the United States, specifically, a violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1951(a), as alleged in Count 7 of this Indictment, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 924(c)(1)(A).

Pursuant to Title 18, United States Code, Section 924(c)(1)(A)(ii), it is further alleged that the firearm was brandished.

In turn, Count 7 charged that St. Hubert committed the Hobbs Act robbery of an AutoZone store in Hollywood, Florida on January 21, 2015, stating St. Hubert:

did knowingly obstruct, delay, and affect commerce and the movement of articles and commodities in commerce, by means of robbery, as the terms “commerce” and “robbery” are defined in Title 18, United States Code, Sections 1951(b)(1) and (b)(3), in that the defendant did take property from the person and in the presence of persons employed by AutoZone, located at 1513 North State Road 7, Hollywood, Florida 33021, a business and company operating in interstate and foreign commerce, against the will of those persons, by means of actual and threatened force, violence, and fear of injury to said persons, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1951(a).

(emphasis added).

Count 12 charged that St. Hubert used and carried a firearm on January 27, 2015 during the attempted Hobbs Act robbery in Count 11, stating that St. Hubert:

did knowingly use and carry a firearm during and in relation to a crime of violence, and did knowingly possess a firearm in furtherance of a crime of violence, an offense for which the defendant may be prosecuted in a court of the United States, specifically, a violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1951(a), as alleged in Count 11 of this Indictment, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 924(c)(1)(A).

Pursuant to Title 18, United States Code, Section 924(c)(1)(A)(ii), it is further alleged that the firearm was brandished.

Count 11, in turn, charged that St. Hubert committed the attempted Hobbs Act robbery of an AutoZone store in Miami, Florida on January 27, 2015, stating that St. Hubert:

did knowingly attempt to obstruct, delay, and affect commerce and the movement of articles and commodities in commerce, by means of robbery, as the terms “commerce” and “robbery” are defined in Title 18, United States Code, Sections 1951(b)(1) and (b)(3), in that the defendant did attempt to take property from the person and in the presence of persons employed by AutoZone, located at 59 N.E. 79th Street, Miami, Florida 33138, a business and company operating in interstate and foreign commerce, against the will of those persons, by means of actual and threatened force, violence, and fear of injury to said persons, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1951(a).

(emphasis added).

B. Motion to Dismiss Indictment

On December 22, 2015, St. Hubert filed a motion to dismiss the § 924(c) firearm counts in his indictment. St. Hubert's motion argued that “[t]he 924(c) Counts fail to state an offense because the Hobbs Act charges upon which they are predicated do not qualify as ‘crime[s] of violence’: Hobbs Act ‘robbery’ does not fall within the definition of 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)’s ‘force clause,’ and § 924(c)’s residual clause is unconstitutionally vague under Johnson v. United States, ___ U.S. ___, 135 S. Ct. 2551 (2015).” The district court denied St. Hubert's motion.

C. Guilty Plea Colloquy Outlined the Offense Conduct

Subsequently, during a February 16, 2016 hearing, pursuant to a written plea agreement, St. Hubert pled guilty to Counts 8 and 12, both § 924(c) firearm crimes, in exchange for dismissal of the other eleven counts. The predicate crimes in Counts 8 and 12, respectively, were the Hobbs Act robbery on January 21 and the attempted Hobbs Act robbery on January 27. We recount the offense conduct which St. Hubert admitted during his plea colloquy.

On January 21, 2015, St. Hubert robbed with a firearm an AutoZone store located at North State Road 7 in Hollywood, Florida. At approximately 8:00 p.m., St. Hubert entered the store wearing a gray and yellow striped hoodie. St. Hubert brandished a firearm and directed three store employees to the rear of the store. St. Hubert demanded that the employees place money from the store's safe inside one of the store's plastic bags and threatened to shoot them. Approximately $2,300 was stolen during the robbery. Two of the three employees subsequently identified St. Hubert in a six-person photographic array.

On January 27, 2015, St. Hubert attempted to rob with a firearm a different AutoZone store located at 59 Northeast 79th Street in Miami, Florida. At approximately 7:00 p.m., St. Hubert entered the store wearing a gray Old Navy hoodie. St. Hubert proceeded to hold a firearm against the side of one employee and directed a second employee to open the store safe.

As this was occurring, the second employee noticed a City of Miami Police Department vehicle outside the store and ran out of the door to request help. St. Hubert then fled in a blue Mercury sedan which was registered in his name and to his home address. A subsequent car chase led law enforcement officials to St. Hubert, who was arrested at his residence. Both AutoZone employees later identified St. Hubert in a showup.

During subsequent valid and authorized searches of St. Hubert's residence, law enforcement officers located both the gray and yellow striped hoodie worn by St. Hubert during the January 21st robbery, and the gray Old Navy hoodie worn by St. Hubert during the January 27th attempted robbery. DNA recovered from both hoodies matched St. Hubert's DNA. During the execution of a search warrant for St. Hubert's vehicle, law enforcement officials located a firearm and ammunition.2

During the plea colloquy, the district court also recited the firearm charge set forth in Count 8 and explained that the predicate crime of violence was St. Hubert's AutoZone robbery charged in Count 7. The district court also recited the firearm charge set forth in Count 12 and explained that the predicate crime of violence was his attempted AutoZone robbery charged in Count 11. St. Hubert confirmed that he understood the charges and that he was pleading guilty to both Counts 8 and 12. St. Hubert also affirmed that he was pleading guilty because he was in fact guilty. The district court found that St. Hubert's guilty plea was freely and voluntarily entered, accepted his guilty plea and found him guilty.

D. Sentencing

On February 16, 2016, the district court sentenced St. Hubert to 84 months' imprisonment on Count 8 and to 300 consecutive months' imprisonment on Count 12.

St. Hubert timely appealed.

II. WAIVER BY GUILTY PLEA

On appeal, St. Hubert asks the Court to vacate his convictions and sentences. He does not dispute that he committed the Hobbs Act robbery and attempted robbery of the AutoZone stores and used a firearm in doing so. St. Hubert also does not challenge the validity of his guilty plea. Rather, St. Hubert contends that Hobbs Act robbery and attempted robbery do not qualify as crimes of violence under 18 U.S.C. § 924(c), and therefore he pled guilty to what he terms a non-offense.

In response, the government argues that St. Hubert waived those claims when he knowingly and voluntarily pled guilty to Counts 8 and 12. St. Hubert counters that his § 924(c) claim is jurisdictional and thus not waivable. At the outset, we point out that St. Hubert's appeal actually raises two distinct claims, one constitutional and the other statutory in nature.

St. Hubert's constitutional claim involves § 924(c)(3)(B). St. Hubert's constitutional claim is that: (1) § 924(c)(3)(B)’s residual clause definition of crime of violence is unconstitutionally vague in light of Johnson v. United States, 576 U.S. ___, 135 S. Ct. 2551 (2015); and (2) thus that unconstitutional part of the statute cannot be used to convict him.

St. Hubert's statutory claim involves § 924(c)(3)(A). Specifically, St. Hubert says that Hobbs Act robbery and attempted robbery categorically do not qualify as crimes of violence under the other statutory definition of crime of violence in § 924(c)(3)(A)’s use-of-force clause. Consequently, before we can address the merits of St. Hubert's § 924(c) claims, we must first determine whether St. Hubert has waived them.3

A. Constitutional Challenge to § 924(c)(3)(B)

The Supreme Court recently spoke directly to whether a guilty plea waives a constitutional challenge to a statute of conviction. We start with that case.

In Class v. United States, the defendant pled guilty and was convicted under 40 U.S.C. § 5104(e), which prohibits the carrying of a firearm “on the Grounds or in any of the Capitol Buildings.” Class v. United States, 583 U.S. ___, 138 S. Ct. 798, 802 (2018). On appeal, the defendant argued that this statute violated the Second Amendment and the Due Process Clause. Id. The Supreme Court concluded that the defendant's voluntary and unconditional guilty plea by itself did not waive his right to challenge on direct appeal the constitutionality of that statute of conviction. Id. at 805-07.

Prior to Class, this Court had already reached the same conclusion in United States v. Saac, 632 F.3d 1203, 1208 (11th Cir. 2011) (concluding that the “defendants did not waive their argument” that Congress exceeded its authority under Article I, Section 8, Clause 10 of the Constitution when it enacted the Drug Trafficking Vessel Interdiction Act, 18 U.S.C. § 2285, the statute of conviction, “insofar as this claim goes to the legitimacy of the offense that defendants’ indictment charged”).

Here, St. Hubert argues that he cannot be convicted under § 924(c)(3)(B) because that provision is unconstitutionally vague. Like the defendants in Class and Saac, St. Hubert's guilty plea in this case does not bar his claim that this statute of conviction is unconstitutional.

B. Statutory Claim as to § 924(c)(3)(A)

Neither Class nor Saac involved the other type of claim St. Hubert raises on appeal, a statutory claim about whether an offense qualifies under the remaining definition of crime of violence in § 924(c)(3)(A). Thus, these decisions do not directly answer the question of whether St. Hubert's unconditional guilty plea waived that statutory claim. To answer that question, we must determine the precise nature of St. Hubert's statutory claim.

St. Hubert pled guilty to using, carrying, and brandishing a firearm during two crimes of violence, affirmatively identified in the indictment as Hobbs Act robbery and attempted Hobbs Act robbery. St. Hubert claims that Hobbs Act robbery and attempted Hobbs Act robbery do not qualify as predicate crimes of violence under § 924(c)(3)(A), and thus he pled guilty to a non-offense that the government did not have the power to prosecute. St. Hubert argues this claim cannot be waived because it raises “jurisdictional” defects in his indictment.

In response, the government contends that the district court had jurisdiction, i.e., the power to act, pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 3231 because St. Hubert's indictment alleged violations of 18 U.S.C. § 924(c), a law of the United States, and whether Hobbs Act robbery and attempted robbery are crimes of violence under § 924(c)(3)(A) goes merely to the sufficiency of his indictment and raises only non-jurisdictional defects, which can be waived.

Because the government relies on United States v. Cotton, 535 U.S. 625, 122 S. Ct. 1781 (2002), we discuss it first. In Cotton, the defendants were charged with a cocaine conspiracy under 21 U.S.C. §§ 841(a)(1) and 846, but the indictment charged only a “detectable amount” of cocaine and cocaine base and not a threshold amount needed for enhanced penalties under § 841(b). 535 U.S. at 627-28, 122 S. Ct. at 1783. The Supreme Court had held in United States v. Booker, 543 U.S. 220, 125 S. Ct. 738 (2005), that if drug quantity is used to increase a defendant's sentence above the statutory maximum sentence for an § 841 drug offense, then that drug quantity must be charged in the indictment and decided by a jury. 543 U.S. at 235-44, 125 S. Ct. at 751-56 (extending the holding of Apprendi v. New Jersey, 530 U.S. 466, 120 S. Ct. 2348 (2000), to federal sentencing proceedings under the Sentencing Guidelines).

In Cotton, the Supreme Court rejected the Fourth Circuit's conclusion, based on Ex parte Bain, 121 U.S. 1, 7 S. Ct. 781 (1887), that the omission of the drug-quantity element from the indictment was a jurisdictional defect that required vacating the defendants' sentences. Cotton, 535 U.S. at 629, 122 S. Ct. at 1784. The Supreme Court explained that “Bain's elastic concept of jurisdiction is not what the term ‘jurisdiction’ means today, i.e., the courts' statutory or constitutional power to adjudicate the case.” Id. at 630, 122 S. Ct. at 1785 (internal quotation marks omitted). The Supreme Court pointed to several of its more contemporary cases, which the Court said stood for the broad proposition that defects in an indictment are not jurisdictional, as follows:

Post-Bain cases confirm that defects in an indictment do not deprive a court of its power to adjudicate a case. In Lamar v. United States, 240 U.S. 60, 64, 36 S. Ct. 255 (1916), the Court rejected the claim that “the court had no jurisdiction because the indictment does not charge a crime against the United States.” Justice Holmes explained that a district court “has jurisdiction of all crimes cognizable under the authority of the United States . . . [and] [t]he objection that the indictment does not charge a crime against the United States goes only to the merits of the case.” Id. at 65, 36 S. Ct. 255. Similarly, United States v. Williams, 341 U.S. 58, 66, 71 S. Ct. 595 (1951), held that a ruling “that the indictment is defective does not affect the jurisdiction of the trial court to determine the case presented by the indictment.”

Id. at 630-31, 122 S. Ct. at 1785. The Supreme Court in Cotton concluded that “[i]nsofar as it held that a defective indictment deprives a court of jurisdiction, Bain is overruled.” Id. at 631, 122 S. Ct. at 1785. Relying on Cotton, the government argues that St. Hubert's claims that his indictment was defective are non-jurisdictional and waived.

The problem for the government is that this Court has narrowly limited Cotton’s overruling of Bain and jurisdictional holding to only omission of elements from the indictment. See United States v. Peter, 310 F.3d 709, 713-14 (11th Cir. 2002). In Peter, the defendant pled guilty to an indictment charging a Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act conspiracy with the sole predicate act being mail fraud, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1341, by making misrepresentations on state license applications he mailed to a state agency. Id. at 711, 715. Later, the Supreme Court in Cleveland v. United States, 531 U.S. 12, 121 S. Ct. 365 (2000), held that state and municipal licenses did not qualify as “property in the hands of the victim” as required for the offense of mail fraud. Id. at 711. Therefore, Peter had pled guilty to the predicate act of alleged mail fraud in the very form held in Cleveland not to constitute an offense under § 1341. Id. at 715. The Peter Court concluded that the defendant's claim that his conduct was never a crime under § 1341 was a jurisdictional error and could not be procedurally defaulted. Id. at 711-15. In reaching this conclusion, the Court in Peter relied on pre-Cotton precedent and concluded that “the decision in United States v. Meacham, 626 F.2d 503 (5th Cir. 1980), establishes that a district court is without jurisdiction to accept a guilty plea to a ‘non-offense.’” Id. at 713 (footnote omitted).4

Based on our pre-Cotton precedent in Meacham, the Peter Court decided that when an indictment “affirmatively alleged a specific course of conduct that is outside the reach” of the statute of conviction—or stated another way, “alleges only a non-offense”—the district court has no jurisdiction to accept the guilty plea. Id. at 715 (holding that the pre-Cotton “rule of Meacham, that a district court lacks jurisdiction when an indictment alleges only a non-offense, controls” even after Cotton). In following Meacham, the Peter Court rejected the government's claim that the language of Cotton rejected the rule of Meacham. Id. at 713. The Peter Court limited Cotton’s holding to an omission from the indictment, reasoning that “Cotton involved only an omission from the indictment: the failure to allege a fact requisite to the imposition of defendants' sentences, namely, their trade in a threshold quantity of cocaine base.” Id. at 714.5

Our best determination is that in this case we are bound by our circuit precedent in Peter. St. Hubert's claim is not, as in Cotton, that his indictment omitted a necessary fact. Rather, like in Peter, the error asserted by St. Hubert is that “the indictment consisted only of specific conduct”—carrying, using, and brandishing a firearm during a Hobbs Act robbery and an attempted Hobbs Act robbery—that, according to St. Hubert, is “as a matter of law, . . . outside the sweep of the charging statute.” Id. at 714. Said another way, because “the Government affirmatively alleged a specific course of conduct that [at least in St. Hubert's view] is outside the reach” of § 924(c)(3)(A), “the Government's proof of th[at] alleged conduct, no matter how overwhelming, would have brought it no closer to showing the crime charged than would have no proof at all.” Id. at 715 (emphasis added).

Moreover, we see nothing in the Supreme Court’s recent Class decision that undermines Peter, much less undermines it to the point of abrogation. See United States v. Kaley, 579 F.3d 1246, 1255 (11th Cir. 2009) (explaining that for a subsequent Supreme Court opinion to abrogate our prior precedent, it must “directly conflict with” that prior precedent). Indeed, while the Supreme Court in Class did not speak in terms of jurisdiction or jurisdictional indictment defects, it suggested, albeit in dicta, that a claim that the facts alleged in the indictment and admitted by the defendant do not constitute a crime at all cannot be waived by a defendant’s guilty plea because that kind of claim challenges the district court’s power to act. See Class, 583 U.S. at ___, 138 S. Ct. at 805. Notably, the Supreme Court in Class, in its discussion of historical examples of claims not waived by a guilty plea, included cases in which the defendant argued that the charging document did not allege conduct that constituted a crime. Id. at 804 (citing United States v. Ury, 106 F.2d 28, 28-30 (2d. Cir. 1939); Hocking Valley Ry. Co. v. United States, 210 F. 735, 738-39 (6th Cir. 1914); Carper v. Ohio, 27 Ohio St. 572, 575-76 (1875); Commonwealth v. Hinds, 101 Mass. 209, 210 (1869)). Thus, if anything, the dicta in Class supports Peter’s analysis.

St. Hubert’s claim is that Counts 8 and 12 of the indictment failed to charge an offense against the laws of the United States because Hobbs Act robbery and attempted robbery are not crimes of violence under § 924(c)(3)(A). Under Peter his challenge to his § 924(c) convictions on this ground is jurisdictional, and therefore we must conclude that St. Hubert did not waive it by pleading guilty.

Having concluded that neither of St. Hubert's § 924(c) claims has been relinquished by his guilty plea, we now proceed to the merits of those claims.

III. HOBBS ACT ROBBERY IN COUNT 8

A. Section 924(c)(3)(A) and (B)

For purposes of § 924(c), a predicate offense can qualify as a crime of violence under one of two definitions. Specifically, under § 924(c), a crime of violence is an offense that is a felony and that:

(A) has as an element the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against the person or property of another, or

(B) that by its nature, involves a substantial risk that physical force against the person or property of another may be used in the course of committing the offense.

18 U.S.C. § 924(c)(3)(A), (B) (emphasis added). The first definition in § 924(c)(3)(A) is commonly referred to as the use-of-force clause. The second definition in § 924(c)(3)(B) is commonly referred to as the risk-of-force or residual clause. St. Hubert contends Hobbs Act robbery does not qualify under either definition in § 924(c)(3). We address the definitions separately.

B. Risk-of-Force Clause in § 924(c)(3)(B)

As to the second definition, St. Hubert argues that Hobbs Act robbery no longer can qualify under the risk-of-force clause in § 924(c)(3)(B) because that clause is unconstitutional in light of Sessions v. Dimaya, 584 U.S. ___, 138 S. Ct. 1204 (2018), and Johnson v. United States, 576 U.S. ___, 135 S. Ct. 2551 (2015).

After Dimaya and Johnson, this Court en banc in Ovalles II rejected a void-for-vagueness challenge to § 924(c)(3)(B). Ovalles II held that the constitutional-doubt canon of statutory construction requires that § 924(c)(3)(b) be interpreted to incorporate a conduct-based approach. 905 F.3d at 1240, 1244, 1251. Ovalles II thus engaged in a statutory interpretation of the text of § 924(c)(3)(B), and set forth a rule of statutory interpretation, not a rule of constitutional law. See id. at 1240, 1244, 1245-48, 1252. The conduct-based approach adopted in Ovalles II accounts for “actual, real-world facts of the crime’s commission” in determining if that crime qualifies under § 924(c)(3)(B)’s residual clause. Id. at 1252-53. Two other circuits have likewise adopted a conduct-based interpretation of § 924(c)(3)(B) and held § 924(c)(3)(B) is constitutional. See United States v. Douglas, ___ F.3d ___, 2018 WL 4941132, *5-13 (1st Cir. Oct. 12, 2018); United States v. Barrett, 903 F.3d 166, 178-84 (2d Cir. 2018). We follow Ovalles II and conclude that St. Hubert’s constitutional challenge to § 924(c)(3)(B) lacks merit.

Because the district court did not have the benefit of Ovalles II’s statutory interpretation of § 924(c)(3)(B), it did not apply the conduct-based approach Ovalles II adopted. Nonetheless, a remand is not necessary in this case because the relevant facts are admitted by the defendant, the record is thus sufficiently developed, and any review of such a determination by the district court would be de novo in any event. See United States v. Taylor, 88 F.3d 938, 944 (11th Cir. 1996); United States v. Jones, 52 F.3d 924, 927 (11th Cir. 1995); Macklin v. Singletary, 24 F.3d 1307, 1310-1313 (11th Cir. 1994); see also Ovalles II, 905 F.3d at 1253 (applying in the first instance the conduct-based approach to admitted, “real-life” facts “embodied in a written plea agreement and detailed plea colloquy”).

That leaves us to apply § 924(c)(3)(B)’s conduct-based approach to St. Hubert’s admitted conduct. Specifically, at his plea hearing, St. Hubert admitted he robbed an AutoZone store on January 21, and that he brandished a firearm at store employees and threatened to shoot them, before stealing approximately $2,300. Based on the facts that St. Hubert expressly admitted, we readily conclude that St. Hubert's admitted conduct during his January 21 Hobbs Act robbery involved a substantial risk that physical force may have been used against a person or property, and thus his Hobbs Act robbery constituted a crime of violence within the meaning of § 924(c)(3)(B)’s risk-of-force clause. We affirm St. Hubert's conviction and sentence on Count 8 based on Ovalles II.

C. Use-of-Force Clause in § 924(c)(3)(A)

Even assuming that Dimaya and Johnson invalidated § 924(c)(3)(B)’s risk-of-force clause as unconstitutionally vague, we conclude St. Hubert's challenge to his first § 924(c) conviction (Count 8) fails because this Court has already held that Hobbs Act robbery (the predicate for Count 8) independently qualifies as a crime of violence under § 924(c)(3)(A)’s use-of-force clause. See In re Saint Fleur, 824 F.3d 1337, 1340-41 (11th Cir. 2016) (addressing Hobbs Act robbery); In re Colon, 826 F.3d 1301, 1305 (11th Cir. 2016) (addressing aiding and abetting Hobbs Act robbery). Accordingly, as an independent and alternative ground for affirmance, we hold that St. Hubert's Hobbs Act robbery qualifies as a crime of violence under § 924(c)(3)(A)’s use-of-force clause, and thus we affirm his first § 924(c) conviction in Count 8.

St. Hubert argues that Saint Fleur and Colon are not binding precedent in his direct appeal because they were adjudications of applications for leave to file a second or successive § 2255 motion. St. Hubert refers to these adjudications as “SOS applications” and as decisions “occurring in a procedurally distinct context.” We reject that claim because this Court has already held that “our prior-panel-precedent rule applies with equal force as to prior panel decisions published in the context of applications to file second or successive petitions. In other words, published three-judge orders issued under § 2244(b) are binding precedent in our circuit.” In re Lambrix, 776 F.3d 789, 794 (11th Cir. 2015); see also In re Hill, 777 F.3d 1214, 1223-24 (11th Cir. 2015).

St. Hubert next argues that these Lambrix and Hill decisions themselves involved second or successive applications and thus cannot bind this Court in St. Hubert's direct appeal. We disagree because the rulings in Lambrix and Hill were squarely about the legal issue of whether the prior panel precedent rule encompasses earlier published three-judge orders under § 2244(b). Lest there be any doubt, we now hold in this direct appeal that law established in published three-judge orders issued pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 2244(b) in the context of applications for leave to file second or successive § 2255 motions is binding precedent on all subsequent panels of this Court, including those reviewing direct appeals and collateral attacks, "unless and until [it is] overruled or undermined to the point of abrogation by the Supreme Court or by this court sitting en banc." See Archer, 531 F.3d at 1352.6

Accordingly, in this direct appeal, this panel is bound by Saint Fleur and Colon and concludes that St. Hubert's Hobbs Act robbery is a crime of violence under § 924(c)(3)(A)'s use-of-force clause.7

IV. ATTEMPTED ROBBERY IN COUNT 12

We now turn to St. Hubert's second § 924(c) conviction (Count 12), where the predicate offense is attempted Hobbs Act robbery. Again, we examine the two crime-of-violence definitions separately.

A. Risk-of-Force Clause in § 924(c)(3)(B)

Employing the conduct-based approach from Ovalles II, we hold that St. Hubert's attempted Hobbs Act robbery qualifies as a crime of violence under § 924(c)(3)(B)'s risk-of-force clause. Although the district court did not apply the conduct-based approach, we need not remand. Rather, here, as in Ovalles II, "there is no need for imagination" or remand because the "real-life details" of St. Hubert's attempted Hobbs Act robbery, all of which he admitted, confirm that it qualifies under § 924(c)(3)(B)'s residual clause. See Ovalles II, 905 F.3d at 1253.

In fact, at his plea hearing, St. Hubert admitted that, on January 27, he entered an AutoZone store, brandished a firearm, and held the firearm against one employee's side while directing a second employee to open the store's safe, but fled the store before he could take any money when a police car appeared outside the store. Given the way in which St. Hubert admitted committing the attempted AutoZone robbery, we easily conclude that his offense involved a substantial risk that physical force may be used against a person or property. Thus, we affirm St. Hubert's § 924(c) conviction and sentence on Count 12 on that ground.

B. Use-of-Force Clause in § 924(c)(3)(A)

Alternatively, we address whether St. Hubert's attempted Hobbs Act robbery in Count 12 qualifies as a crime of violence under § 924(c)(3)(A)'s use-of-force clause. Our circuit precedent has not squarely ruled on that precise offense. Nonetheless, Saint Fleur and Colon are our starting point for that crime too.

St. Hubert's brief argues that Saint Fleur and Colon are inconsistent with the Supreme Court's decisions in Descamps v. United States, Mathis v. United States, Moncrieffe v. Holder and Leocal v. Ashcroft, which applied the categorical approach.8 St. Hubert contends that when the categorical approach is properly applied, Hobbs Act robbery and attempted robbery fail to qualify as crimes of violence because these offenses can be committed by putting a victim in "fear of injury, immediate or future" and do not require a threat of physical force.

We agree that the Supreme Court's discussion of the categorical approach in these decisions is relevant to St. Hubert's appeal, which is why, in analyzing his attempted Hobbs Act robbery, as well as his Hobbs Act robbery, we take time to apply the categorical approach to the applicable statutes in more detail than Saint Fleur and Colon did.9 First, we compare the statutory texts of § 1951 and § 924(c)(3)(A), and then set forth the tenets of the categorical approach.

C. Statutory Text and Categorical Approach

The Hobbs Act provides that:

Whoever in any way or degree obstructs, delays, or affects commerce or the movement of any article or commodity in commerce, by robbery or extortion or attempts or conspires so to do, or commits or threatens physical violence to any person or property in furtherance of a plan or purpose to do anything in violation of this section shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

18 U.S.C. § 1951(a) (emphasis added). The text of the Hobbs Act proscribes both robbery and extortion. See 18 U.S.C. § 1951(a), (b)(1)-(2).

We agree with the Sixth Circuit's conclusion that (1) the Hobbs Act is a divisible statute that sets out multiple crimes, and (2) robbery and extortion are distinct offenses, not merely alternative means of violating § 1951(a). See United States v. Gooch, 850 F.3d 285, 290-92 (6th Cir.) (discussing Mathis, 579 U.S. 500, 136 S. Ct. 2243), cert. denied, 137 S. Ct. 2230 (2017). Under the categorical approach, we thus consider only the portion of the Hobbs Act defining "robbery" for the elements of St. Hubert's predicate offenses.10 See Mathis, 579 U.S. at 514, 136 S. Ct. at 2248.

"Robbery" under the Hobbs Act is defined as:

[T]he unlawful taking or obtaining of personal property from the person or in the presence of another, against his will, by means of actual or threatened force, or violence, or fear of injury, immediate or future, to his person or property, or property in his custody or possession, or the person or property of a relative or member of his family or of anyone in his company at the time of the taking or obtaining.

18 U.S.C. § 1951(b)(1). A conviction for Hobbs Act robbery by definition requires "actual or threatened force, or violence, or fear of injury, immediate or future, to . . . person or property." Id. § 1951(b)(1) (emphasis added). Similarly, § 924(c)(3)(A) refers to the "use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against person or property." 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)(3)(A) (emphasis added).

We also point out, and St. Hubert agrees, that the definition of "robbery" in § 1951(b)(1) is indivisible because it sets out alternative means of committing robbery, rather than establishing multiple different robbery crimes. See 18 U.S.C. § 1951(b)(1); Mathis, 579 U.S. at 514-15, 136 S. Ct. at 2248-49 (describing the difference between divisible and indivisible statutes). Accordingly, we apply the categorical approach in analyzing whether St. Hubert's Hobbs Act robbery and attempted robbery offenses qualify as crimes of violence under § 924(c). See Mathis, 579 U.S. at 514-15, 136 S. Ct. at 2248-49 (explaining that, in the ACCA context, indivisible statutes must be analyzed using the categorical approach); see also United States v. McGuire, 706 F.3d 1333, 1336-37 (11th Cir. 2013) (applying the categorical approach in the § 924(c) context).

In applying the categorical approach, we look only to the elements of the predicate offense statute and do not look at the particular facts of the defendant's offense conduct. See, e.g., United States v. Keelan, 786 F.3d 865, 870-71 (11th Cir. 2015) ("Under the categorical approach, a court must look to the elements and the nature of the offense of conviction, rather than to the particular facts of the defendant's record of conviction." (quotation marks omitted)). In doing so, "we must presume that the conviction rested upon [nothing] more than the least of th[e] acts criminalized, and then determine whether even those acts" qualify as crimes of violence. See Moncrieffe, 569 U.S. at 190-91, 133 S. Ct. at 1684 (quotation marks omitted). Thus, under the categorical approach, each of the means of committing Hobbs Act robbery—"actual or threatened force, or violence, or fear of injury"—must qualify under the use-of-force clause in § 924(c)(3)(A).

Reaching the same conclusion as Saint Fleur, four other circuits have applied the categorical approach, listing each of these means, and concluded that Hobbs Act robbery is categorically a crime of violence under the use-of-force clause in § 924(c)(3)(A).11 See Gooch, 850 F.3d at 291-92; United States v. Rivera, 847 F.3d 847, 848-49 (7th Cir. 2017); United States v. Anglin, 846 F.3d 954, 964-65 (7th Cir.), cert. granted & judgment vacated on other grounds, 138 S. Ct. 126 (2017); United States v. Hill, 832 F.3d 135, 140-44 (2d Cir. 2016); United States v. House, 825 F.3d 381, 387 (8th Cir. 2016).12

D. St. Hubert's Main Argument: Fear of Injury to Person or Property

Despite this precedent, St. Hubert's main argument is that (1) the least of the acts criminalized in § 1951(b)(1) is "fear of injury," and (2) a Hobbs Act robbery "by means of fear of injury" can be committed without the use, attempted use, or threatened use of any physical force. Although bound by Saint Fleur and Colon in this regard, we take time to outline why St. Hubert's argument fails.

First, this argument is inconsistent not only with Saint Fleur and Colon, but also with our precedent in In re Sams, 830 F.3d 1234, 1238-39 (11th Cir. 2016) and United States v. Moore, 43 F.3d 568, 572-73 (11th Cir. 1994), in which this Court concluded that federal bank robbery "by intimidation," in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 2113(a), and federal carjacking "by intimidation," in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 2119, both have as an element the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force and thus qualify as crimes of violence under § 924(c)(3)(A). See also United States v. Robinson, 844 F.3d 137, 151 n.28 (3d Cir. 2016) (Fuentes, J., concurring) (applying the categorical approach and equating "intimidation" in the federal bank robbery statute with "fear of injury" in Hobbs Act robbery, noting that the legislative history of § 924(c) identified federal bank robbery as the prototypical crime of violence, and reasoning that Congress therefore intended § 924(c)'s physical force element to be satisfied by intimidation or fear of injury), cert. denied, 138 S. Ct. 215 (2017); United States v. Gutierrez, 876 F.3d 1254, 1257 (9th Cir. 2017) (holding "intimidation as used in the federal bank robbery statute requires that a person take property in such a way that would put an ordinary, reasonable person in fear of bodily harm, which necessarily entails the threatened use of physical force" (quotation marks omitted)).

Second, we agree with the Second Circuit's decision in Hill, which explained why that court rejected the argument, like St. Hubert's, that one could commit Hobbs Act robbery by "putting the victim in fear" without any physical force or threat of physical force. Hill, 832 F.3d at 141-43. The Second Circuit noted that a hypothetical nonviolent violation of the statute, without evidence of actual application of the statute to such conduct, is insufficient to show a "realistic probability" that Hobbs Act robbery could encompass nonviolent conduct.13 Id. at 139-40, 142-43. The Second Circuit added that "there must be 'a realistic probability, not a theoretical possibility,' that the statute at issue could be applied to conduct that does not constitute a crime of violence," and, to that end, "a defendant 'must at least point to his own case or other cases in which the . . . courts in fact did apply the statute in the . . . manner for which he argues.'" Id. at 140 (quoting in part Gonzales v. Duenas-Alvarez, 549 U.S. 183, 193, 127 S. Ct. 815, 822 (2007)); see also McGuire, 706 F.3d at 1337 (citing Duenas-Alvarez and explaining that to determine whether an offense is categorically a crime of violence under § 924(c), courts must consider whether "the plausible applications of the statute of conviction all require the use or threatened use of force . . . ." (emphasis added)).

St. Hubert has not pointed to any case at all, much less one in which the Hobbs Act applied to a robbery or attempted robbery, that did not involve, at a minimum, a threat to use physical force. Indeed, St. Hubert does not offer a plausible scenario, and we can think of none, in which a Hobbs Act robber could take property from the victim against his will and by putting the victim in fear of injury (to his person or property) without at least threatening to use physical force capable of causing such injury. See Curtis Johnson v. United States, 559 U.S 133, 140, 130 S. Ct. 1265, 1271 (2010) (stating that the phrase "physical force" as used in the ACCA's "violent felony" definition means "violent force—that is, force capable of causing physical pain or injury to another person").14

Having applied the categorical approach and explained why Saint Fleur and Colon properly concluded that Hobbs Act robbery is a crime of violence under § 924(c)(3)(A), we now turn to the attempt element of St. Hubert's attempted Hobbs Act robbery.

E. Attempt Crimes

While this Court has not yet addressed attempted Hobbs Act robbery, the definition of a crime of violence in the use-of-force clause in § 924(c)(3)(A) explicitly includes offenses that have as an element the "attempted use" or "threatened use" of physical force against the person or property of another. See 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)(3)(A). Moreover, the Hobbs Act itself prohibits both completed and attempts to commit Hobbs Act robbery, and such attempts are subject to the same penalties as completed Hobbs Act robberies. See 18 U.S.C. § 1951(a).

To be convicted of an "attempt" of a federal crime, a defendant must: (1) have the specific intent to engage in the criminal conduct with which he is charged; and (2) have taken a substantial step toward the commission of the offense that strongly corroborates his criminal intent. United States v. Jockisch, 857 F.3d 1122, 1129 (11th Cir.), cert. denied, 138 S. Ct. 284 (2017); United States v. Yost, 479 F.3d 815, 819 (11th Cir. 2007). The intent element of a federal attempt offense requires the defendant to have the specific intent to commit each element of the completed federal offense. See United States v. Murrell, 368 F.3d 1283, 1286-87 (11th Cir. 2004).

"A substantial step can be shown when the defendant's objective acts mark his conduct as criminal and, as a whole, 'strongly corroborate the required culpability.'" Yost, 479 F.3d at 819 (quoting Murrell, 368 F.3d at 1288). To constitute a substantial step, the defendant must do more than merely plan or prepare for the crime; he or she must perform objectively culpable and unequivocal acts toward accomplishing the crime. See United States v. Ballinger, 395 F.3d 1218, 1238 n.8 (11th Cir. 2005) (en banc) (citing United States v. Mandujano, 499 F.2d 370, 377 (5th Cir. 1974), which concluded that a substantial step "must be more than remote preparation," and must be conduct "strongly corroborative of the firmness of the defendant's criminal intent"); United States v. McDowell, 705 F.2d 426, 427-28 (11th Cir. 1983).

Like completed Hobbs Act robbery, attempted Hobbs Act robbery qualifies as a crime of violence under § 924(c)(3)(A)'s use-of-force clause because that clause expressly includes "attempted use" of force. Therefore, because the taking of property from a person against his will in the forcible manner required by § 1951(b)(1) necessarily includes the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force, then by extension the attempted taking of such property from a person in the same forcible manner must also include at least the "attempted use" of force. Cf. United States v. Wade, 458 F.3d 1273, 1278 (11th Cir. 2006) (explaining that an attempt to commit a crime enumerated as a violent felony under § 924(e)(2)(B)(ii) is also a violent felony), cert. denied, 550 U.S. 905, 127 S. Ct. 2096 (2007); see also Hill v. United States, 877 F.3d 717, 718-19 (7th Cir. 2017) ("When a substantive offense would be a violent felony under § 924(e) and similar statutes, an attempt to commit that offense also is a violent felony."), cert. denied, 2018 WL 4334874 (U.S. Oct. 9, 2018); United States v. Armour, 840 F.3d 904, 908-09 (7th Cir. 2016) (holding that attempted armed bank robbery qualifies as a crime of violence under § 924(c)(3)(A)).

In reaching this conclusion, our initial panel opinion followed the Seventh Circuit's analysis about why it concluded that an attempt to commit a violent felony under the ACCA is also a violent felony. See St. Hubert, 883 F.3d at 1332 (citing Hill, 877 F.3d at 719). We do so again. As to attempt crimes, the Seventh Circuit observed in Hill that (1) a defendant must intend to commit every element of the completed crime in order to be guilty of attempt, and (2) thus, "an attempt to commit a crime should be treated as an attempt to commit every element of that crime." Id. Also as to attempt crimes, the Seventh Circuit explained that "[w]hen the intent element of the attempt offense includes intent to commit violence against the person of another, . . . it makes sense to say that the attempt crime itself includes violence as an element." Id. Importantly too, the Seventh Circuit then pointed out that the elements clause in the text of § 924(e) equates actual force with attempted force, and this means that the attempted use of physical force against the person of another suffices and that the text of § 924(e) thus tells us that actual force need not be used for a crime to qualify under the ACCA. Id.; see also Morris, 827 F.3d at 698-99 (Hamilton, J. concurring) ("Even though the substantial step(s) may have fallen short of actual or threatened physical force, the criminal has, by definition, attempted to use or threaten[ed] physical force because he has attempted to commit a crime that would be violent if completed. That position fits comfortably within the language of the elements clause of the definition."). "Given the statutory specification that an element of attempted force operates the same as an element of completed force, and the rule that conviction of attempt requires proof of intent to commit all elements of the completed crime," the Seventh Circuit concluded that when a substantive offense qualifies as a violent felony under the ACCA, an attempt to commit that offense also is a violent felony. See Hill, 877 F.3d at 719.

Analogously here, a completed Hobbs Act robbery itself qualifies as a crime of violence under § 924(c)(3)(A) and, therefore, attempt to commit Hobbs Act robbery requires that St. Hubert intended to commit every element of Hobbs Act robbery, including the taking of property in a forcible manner. Similar to Hill's analysis, the definition of a crime of violence in § 924(c)(3)(A) equates the use of force with attempted force, and thus the text of § 924(c)(3)(A) makes clear that actual force need not be used for a crime to qualify under § 924(c)(3)(A). Thus, under Hill's analysis, given § 924(c)'s "statutory specification that an element of attempted force operates the same as an element of completed force, and the rule that conviction of attempt requires proof of intent to commit all elements of the completed crime," attempted Hobbs Act robbery qualifies as a crime of violence under § 924(c)(3)(A) as well.

Accordingly, as an alternative and independent ground, we conclude that St. Hubert's predicate offense of attempted Hobbs Act robbery qualifies as a crime of violence under § 924(c)(3)(A)'s use-of-force clause, which remains unaffected by Johnson and Dimaya, and we thus affirm St. Hubert's second § 924(c) firearm conviction in Count 12.15

We recognize that St. Hubert argues that a robber could plan the robbery and travel with a gun to the location of the robbery but be caught before entering the store and still be guilty of attempted Hobbs Act robbery. St. Hubert argues that the substantial step required for an attempt conviction will not always involve an actual or threatened use of force and thus attempted Hobbs Act robbery does not qualify under § 924(c)(3)(A). However, as before, we agree with the Seventh Circuit that even if the completed substantial step falls short of actual or threatened force, the robber has attempted to use actual or threatened force because he has attempted to commit a crime that would be violent if completed. See Hill, 877 F.3d at 718-19. Thus, we reject St. Hubert's claim that the substantial step itself in an attempt crime must always involve the actual or threatened use of force for an attempt to commit a violent crime to qualify under § 924(c)(3)(A)'s elements clause.

V. CONCLUSION

In sum, we conclude that St. Hubert's guilty plea did not waive his particular claims here that Counts 8 and 12 failed to charge an offense at all. Further, § 924(c)(3)(B)'s risk-of-force clause is constitutional, see Ovalles II, 905 F.3d at 1253, and St. Hubert's predicate Hobbs Act robbery and attempted Hobbs Act robbery qualify as crimes of violence under § 924(c)(3)(B)'s risk-of-force clause. Finally, as an independent, alternative ground for affirming St. Hubert's convictions and sentences on Counts 8 and 12, we conclude that St. Hubert's predicate offenses of Hobbs Act robbery and attempted Hobbs Act robbery categorically qualify as crimes of violence under § 924(c)(3)(A)'s elements clause.

AFFIRMED.

Footnotes

1 For clarity, we have vacated and have not readopted Sections V and VI of our prior panel opinion in St. Hubert I.

2 Cell site records show that on January 27th, 2015, St. Hubert's phone was in the immediate vicinity of the AutoZone store located at 59 Northeast 79th Street, Miami, Florida shortly before the attempted robbery. The cell site records also show that St. Hubert's phone was in the immediate vicinity of his residence shortly after the attempted robbery.

3 We review de novo whether a defendant's unconditional guilty plea waives his right to bring a particular claim on appeal. See United States v. Patti, 337 F.3d 1317, 1320 & n.4 (11th Cir. 2003).

4 This Court adopted as binding precedent decisions of the former Fifth Circuit issued before October 1, 1981. See Bonner v. City of Prichard, 661 F.2d 1206, 1207 (11th Cir. 1981) (en banc).

5 We note that some Circuits have criticized and rejected Peter's narrow reading of Cotton. See United States v. De Vaughn, 694 F.3d 1141, 1148 (10th Cir. 2012); United States v. Scruggs, 714 F.3d 258, 264 (5th Cir. 2013). Further, the Fifth Circuit, after Cotton, overruled Meacham. See United States v. Cothran, 302 F.3d 279, 283 (5th Cir. 2002).

6 St. Hubert points to language in some of our successive application decisions stating that this Court's determination under 28 U.S.C. §§ 2244(b)(3)(C) and 2255(h) that an applicant has made a prima facie showing that his application contains a claim meeting the statutory criteria does not bind the district court. See, e.g., In re Jackson, 826 F.3d 1343, 1351 (11th Cir. 2016). These decisions do not in any way contradict Lambrix and Hill, but rather stand for the unexceptional proposition that given the "limited determination" involved in finding that an applicant has made a prima facie showing, the district courts must consider the merits of the now-authorized successive § 2255 motion de novo. See In re Moss, 703 F.3d 1301, 1302 (11th Cir. 2013) (explaining that whether an application "made a prima facie showing" is a "limited determination on our part, and, as we have explained before, the district court is to decide the § 2255(h) issues fresh, or in the legal vernacular, de novo" (alterations and internal quotation marks omitted)).

7 The government also relies on St. Hubert's sentence appeal waiver. St. Hubert responds that the sentence appeal waiver does not preclude his challenge to his § 924(c) convictions and sentences because his claim is jurisdictional and because he is "actually innocent of violating 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)." If his convictions are valid, St. Hubert does not dispute his consecutive sentences were required by § 924(c). Given that St. Hubert's claims on appeal as to his convictions fail on the merits, we need not address his sentence appeal waiver.

8 Mathis v. United States, 579 U.S. 500, 136 S. Ct. 2243 (2016); Descamps v. United States, 570 U.S. 254, 133 S. Ct. 2276 (2013); Moncrieffe v. Holder, 569 U.S. 184, 133 S. Ct. 1678 (2013); Leocal v. Ashcroft, 543 U.S. 1, 125 S. Ct. 377 (2004).

9 Mathis and Descamps addressed burglary under the enumerated crimes clause of the ACCA's violent felony definition, not the definition of crime of violence under § 924(c)(3)(A)'s use-of-force clause. See Mathis, 579 U.S. at 514, 136 S. Ct. at 2248; Descamps, 570 U.S. at 258, 133 S. Ct. at 2282. Similarly, Moncrieffe and Leocal, which involved immigration removal proceedings, addressed different predicate offenses and statutory provisions from this case. See Moncrieffe, 569 U.S. at 189, 133 S. Ct. at 1683; Leocal, 543 U.S. at 3-4, 125 S. Ct. at 379. Moncrieffe addressed whether a prior state drug conviction qualified as a "drug trafficking crime" under § 924(c)(2) and, therefore, as an "aggravated felony" under the Immigration and Nationality Act ("INA"). Moncrieffe, 569 U.S at 187-90, 133 S. Ct. at 1682-84. And Leocal addressed whether a prior conviction for driving under the influence qualified as a "crime of violence" under 18 U.S.C. § 16 and, therefore, as an "aggravated felony" under the INA. Leocal, 543 U.S. at 3-6, 125 S. Ct. at 379-80.

While these decisions are relevant to our analytical approach, they did not involve Hobbs Act robbery or attempted robbery, or the use-of-force clause in § 924(c)(3)(A), and thus are not clearly on point here. See United States v. Lopez, 562 F.3d 1309, 1312 (11th Cir. 2009); Atlantic Sounding Co. v. Townsend, 496 F.3d 1282, 1284 (11th Cir. 2007) (explaining that "a later panel may depart from an earlier panel's decision only when the intervening Supreme Court decision is 'clearly on point'" and that when only the reasoning, and not the holding, of the intervening Supreme Court decision "is at odds with that of our prior decision" there is "no basis for a panel to depart from our prior decision"). For this reason, we disagree with St. Hubert's suggestion that we may disregard Saint Fleur and Colon in light of these Supreme Court decisions.

10 Notably too, St. Hubert acknowledges that the predicate crimes of violence for his § 924(c) convictions were Hobbs Act robbery and attempted robbery. He has made no argument about extortion.

11 Although we readopt this Section IV of our prior panel opinion, since that time another circuit (the Tenth Circuit) has concluded that Hobbs Act robbery is categorically a crime of violence under the elements clause, which, with our Saint Fleur, makes the total six circuits so holding. See United States v. Melgar-Cabrera, 892 F.3d 1053, 1064-66 (10th Cir. 2018). The Second and Eighth Circuits have reaffirmed their earlier, above-cited decisions to that effect. See Barrett, 903 F.3d at 174; Diaz v. United States, 863 F.3d 781, 783-84 (8th Cir. 2017).

12 The Third Circuit also has concluded that Hobbs Act robbery is a crime of violence under § 924(c)(3)(A)'s use-of-force clause, but the majority opinion did so applying the modified categorical approach. See United States v. Robinson, 844 F.3d 137, 141-44 (3rd Cir. 2016), cert. denied, 138 S. Ct. 215 (2017); id. at 150-51 (Fuentes, J., concurring) ("Hobbs Act robbery is categorically a crime of violence under Section 924(c)(3)).

13 The hypotheticals that the defendant in Hill suggested would violate the Hobbs Act but would not involve use or threatened use of physical force were: threatening to throw paint on a victim's car or house, threatening to pour chocolate syrup on the victim's passport, and threatening to withhold vital medicine from the victim or to poison him. Hill, 832 F.3d at 141-42. Here, St. Hubert's briefing poses similar hypotheticals to the defendant in Hill.

14 In citing Curtis Johnson, we note that it was an ACCA case where the use-of-force clause in the definition of violent felony required that the physical force be "against the person of another" only. 18 U.S.C. § 924(e)(2)(B)(i); Curtis Johnson, 559 U.S. at 135-36, 130 S. Ct. at 1268.

In contrast, § 924(c)(3)(A)'s use-of-force clause in the definition of crime of violence is broader and includes threatened physical force "against the person or property of another." 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)(3)(A). As discussed above, the definition of robbery in the Hobbs Act parallels § 924(c)(3)(A), as it likewise refers to actual or threatened force against a person or property. See Robinson, 844 F.3d at 144. Thus, in the § 924(c) context, Curtis Johnson may be of limited value in assessing the quantum of force necessary to qualify as a "use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force" against property within the meaning of § 924(c)(3)(A). Nonetheless, even strictly applying Curtis Johnson's definition of physical force, we conclude that Hobbs Act robbery categorically qualifies as a crime of violence.

15 As with Count 8 (with a Hobbs Act robbery predicate), we alternatively affirm St. Hubert's conviction on Count 12 (with an attempted Hobbs Act robbery predicate) based on the residual clause in § 924(c)(3)(B). See Ovalles, 861 F.3d at 1267.