This case is an appeal of a district court order suppressing cocaine found concealed in the undergarments of Michael Anthony Holloway. Cocaine was seized when, acting on information supplied by a reliable confidential informant, officers in an unmarked vehicle pulled out in front of Holloway and forced him to stop his vehicle. Holloway reversed, accelerated, and backed into an unmarked police unit moving up behind him, damaging both vehicles beyond repair. Officers then arrested Holloway and found crack cocaine in a plastic bag tucked inside his underwear. Prior to trial, Holloway moved to suppress this evidence on the grounds that it was the finding of an illegal search. Following a hearing, the district court granted Holloway’s motion to suppress. The government appeals. Finding that the search of Holloway’s person which revealed crack cocaine was incident to a lawful arrest, we reverse the district court’s order suppressing the evidence and remand this case for trial.
*453 I
The government’s case rests in large part on the information relayed to officers Staha and Thompson on August 21, 1989 from a confidential informant — information officer Staha testified to at trial:
A The confidential informant told us about a subject that was selling “Crack” cocaine in the Rosewood Projects [in Austin, Texas] and ... [the] informant told us his name, which was “Mike” Holloway; the car he was driving, which was a Chrysler New Yorker; and told us where we could find the vehicle, which was in the Rosewood Projects.
Q Okay. Did he tell you anything about ... Holloway’s possession of cocaine?
A Yes, sir. He told us that he was selling “Crack” cocaine in the projects and he was in possession of “Crack” cocaine, and he usually kept his “Crack” cocaine in his underwear.
Q Had this confidential informant provided information to you in the past?
A Yes, he has.
Q Was it regarding individuals who possessed and sold “Crack” cocaine?
A That’s correct.
Q And had that information then led to the arrest and subsequent prosecutions of those people?
A Yes, sir.
Q All right. Did you know the person that was identified to you as — or had been named to you as Holloway?
A I’d known him when I used to work the streets ... in uniform. I knew Michael from an establishment called Martin’s Drive-in.
Q All right. What did you know about Holloway?
A Personal knowledge, from informants and other sources of information, I knew he was a drug dealer out in east Austin area.
Q Okay. Besides the confidential informant that you first told the Court about, did other confidential informants give you information about Holloway being a drug dealer?
A Yes, sir.
Q All right. And did you have information that Holloway had recently — at least at the time that you were on the streets out there in August — recently gotten out of the penitentiary for selling narcotics?
A Yes.
Q Did the other officer and officers that were with you working that day, were they also aware of Mr. Holloway’s prior drug dealing propensities?
A Oh, yes, sir.
Q All right. And did y’all talk about this?
A Holloway was — when we target an individual, Holloway was a person that we had targeted in the past. We never was able to make a case on him, but pretty much the whole Repeat Offenders Program office knew about Michael Holloway. .. , 1
Acting within hours of receiving this information, officers Staha and Thompson, who were in an unmarked police unit, arranged for a marked unit to stop and investigate Holloway’s Chrysler New Yorker. Expecting that the investigation would turn up narcotics, they also arranged for additional support and, accordingly, they were soon joined by officers Clark and Duty — two additional plainclothes officers in another unmarked unit.
At approximately 4:45 on a August 21, 1989, while waiting for the marked unit, officers Staha and Thompson observed Holloway and another individual get into a Chrysler New Yorker. The vehicle pulled away from the curb and started to leave. Deciding they had to act, Staha and Thompson drove their vehicle into the street and blocked Holloway’s direction of travel. The officers then got out of the vehicle and — their guns drawn and Staha displaying his badge — yelled “police, police, police.”
*454 Holloway came to a momentary stop ten to fifteen feet in front of the officers. Unaware that the unit occupied by officers Duty and Clark was pulling up behind him, Holloway then reversed his vehicle, accelerated, and rammed into the unit occupied by Clark and Duty with enough force to damage both vehicles beyond repair. The officers then helped Holloway out of his vehicle, frisked him, and found a bag containing seven rocks of crack cocaine concealed in his underwear.
A grand jury indicted Holloway for possessing more than 5 grams of cocaine base with intent to distribute — a violation of 21 U.S.C. § 841(a)(1). Holloway moved to suppress the plastic bag containing crack cocaine as the product of an illegal search, and, after a hearing during which testimony was taken and exhibits were introduced, the district court granted that motion to suppress. The government appeals.
II
The issues the government brings before us require us to make two determinations: (a) when Holloway was “seized” for Fourth Amendment purposes 2 and, (b) whether, at the time of that seizure, officers had the requisite reasonable suspicion to initiate an investigatory detention of Holloway or probable cause to arrest him.
Precisely when an arrest takes place is generally a question of fact,
3
and this court accepts a district court’s purely factual findings unless clearly erroneous.
4
However, in reviewing a district court’s ruling on a motion to suppress based on live testimony at a suppression hearing, we do not readily accept a district court’s factual findings if they are influenced by an incorrect view of law.
See United States v. Gallo,
*455
The government has no quarrel with the district court’s factual findings in this case and challenges the district court’s determination that the officers did not haye probable cause to conduct a warrantless search and arrest of Holloway — a mixed question of law and fact
5
— on the grounds that the district court’s determination was influenced by an incorrect view of law.
Id.
(“Accepting [the district court’s] facts, however, the ultimate determination as to probable cause for a warrantless search seems to be a question of law for this Court to decide.”);
United States v. Basey,
A
The district court found that:
This was not an investigatory stop as the Government insists, because, as Officer Howard Staha testified, the officers’ intent at all times was to arrest the Defendant. As Staha testified, the Austin officers had a strong desire to arrest Holloway for a long time. Upon receiving the information from the confidential informant, they immediately moved to arrest Holloway; not to obtain a warrant; not to investigate, but to arrest. Holloway’s actions after he was accosted by the officers is, unfortunately, irrelevant. 6
The government challenges this determination, asserting that the officers’ intention was to stop Holloway so as to either dispel their reasonable suspicion or, should their suspicion prove valid enough to establish probable cause, arrest him. The government asserts that the officers never had an opportunity to dispel their suspicion and that they seized Holloway only after he attempted to escape — a time when the officers allegedly had probable cause to arrest him. 7
Our determination of when Holloway was seized for Fourth Amendment purposes is guided by a series of recent Supreme Court decisions culminating in
California v. Hodari D.,
— U.S. —,
Officers Staha and Thompson did carry out a proper show of authority
9
— a show of authority to which Holloway ultimately refused to submit. The question before us is, therefore, narrowed to determining whether Holloway was subjected to physical force prior to his attempted escape.
10
According to Holloway,
Hodari D.
does not require physical touching to effect an “application of physical force with lawful authority to restrain movement”
11
and, therefore, blocking Holloway’s path of direction constituted such an application of physical force.
Hodari D.
is not explicit as to whether touching is an essential element of “application of physical force,” but we have found no
post-Hodari D.
cases supporting Holloway’s proposition that touching is
not
required.
12
To the contrary, the emphasis on touching within
Hodari D.’s
analysis suggests that the Court may have assumed touching to be an element of “application of physical force.”
Hodari D.,
— U.S. at —,
This court has held that:
The line between a valid investigatory stop and an arrest requiring probable cause is a fine one. United States v. Hanson,801 F.2d 757 (5th Cir.1986).
Although there is no litmus test for making this determination, an investigatory detention must last no longer than is necessary to accomplish the purposes of the stop and should employ the least intrusive means reasonably available to verify or dispel the officer’s suspicion in a short period of time. Florida v. Royer,460 U.S. 491 , 500,103 S.Ct. 1319 , 1325,75 L.Ed.2d 229 (1983). See also United States v. Sharpe,470 U.S. 675 ,105 S.Ct. 1568 ,84 L.Ed.2d 605 (1985).
United States v. Zukas,
Finally, in accepting Holloway’s contention that “assertion of physical force” includes officers Thompson and Sta-ha blocking his path of travel, the district court was apparently influenced by its own determination that the officers had the subjective intent to arrest Holloway. 18 The law on this point is well-settled: Courts are precluded from giving weight to the subjective intent of police officers. 19
In sum, we find that, (i) since Holloway was in the process of driving away, stopping Holloway was the least intrusive means available for officers Thompson and Staha to dispel their suspicion
(see Zukas,
B
Having applied
Hodari D.
to the facts before us and determined that the initial
*459
contact between Holloway and officers Sta-ha and Thompson does not constitute an arrest but, rather, constitutes an effort by these officers to investigate their suspicion that Holloway was carrying drugs, we now must consider whether the officers had the requisite
reasonable
suspicion to initiate that detention.
21
“The ultimate determination of reasonableness in investigatory stop cases is ... a conclusion of law.”
United States v. Basey,
This court has defined an investigatory stop as “a brief seizure that must be supported by reasonable suspicion, that is[,] ‘specific and articulable facts, which taken together with rational inferences from these facts reasonably warrant an intrusion.’ ”
United States v. Zukas,
The officer, of course, must be able to articulate something more than an “inchoate and unparticularized suspicion or ‘hunch’.” The Fourth Amendment requires “some minimal level of objective justification” for making the stop. That level of suspicion is considerably less than proof of wrongdoing by a preponderance of the evidence. We have held that probable cause means “a fair probability that contraband or evidence of a crime will be found,” and the level of suspicion required for a Terry stop is obviously less demanding than that for probable cause.
United States v. Sokolow,
To determine whether officers Staha and Thompson had reasonable suspicion to stop Holloway, we must consider the “totality of the circumstances,” meaning that “[bjoth factors — quantity and quality [of information relied upon] — are considered in the ‘totality of the circumstances — the whole picture,’
United States v. Cortez,
The totality of information available to officers Staha and Thompson justifies their reasonable suspicion that Holloway was involved in criminal activity:
*460 —A reliable informant — that is, an informant who had provided reliable information to officers in the past regarding individuals who possessed and sold crack cocaine — stated that Holloway was a crack dealer; 25
—The informant described Holloway's possession of cocaine as part of an ongoing activity (specifically, the informant told the officers that Holloway often sold crack cocaine at the corner of Rosewood and Poquito Streets), and stated that he had just been with Holloway and seen him in possession of and selling crack cocaine; 26
—The informant’s credibility was enhanced by his ability to provide supportive details: he told officers (i) exactly where Holloway could be found, (ii) the color, style, and license plate number of the car Holloway would be driving, and
(iii) exactly where on Holloway’s person cocaine was hidden; 27
—Officer Staha confirmed the informant’s information through personal knowledge — information collected from other informants and sources — gained while working the streets as a uniformed officer; 28 and
—The officers knew that Holloway had recently been released from the penitentiary after serving time on a conviction involving possession of narcotics. 29
In short, “[a]ny one of these factors is not by itself proof of any illegal conduct.... [b]ut we think taken together they amount to reasonable suspicion.”
Sokolow,
*461
Finally, we must consider whether, after his attempt to escape, the officers had probable cause to arrest Holloway. “Probable cause for an arrest exists when reasonably trustworthy facts and circumstances are within the knowledge of the arresting officers to warrant a reasonable belief that an offense has been or is being committed.”
Costner,
Ill
Finding that Holloway’s arrest was lawful, that the search of his person revealing cocaine was incident to that lawful arrest, and that the cocaine found concealed in Holloway’s undergarments should not be suppressed, we REVERSE the district court’s order suppressing that evidence and REMAND this case for trial.
Notes
. Record on Appeal, vol. 3, at 4-6, United States v. Michael Anthony Holloway, No. 91-8044 (5th Cir. filed Apr. 11, 1991) ["Record on Appeal”].
.A seizure may constitute an arrest or merely an investigatory detention, and there is no bright-line rule to distinguish one from the other. We have held that such a determination depends upon the "reasonableness” of the intrusion in light of all the facts.
See United States v. Martinez,
.
See INS v. Delgado,
.
See Anderson v. Bessemer City,
.
Muniz-Melchor,
. Record Excerpts for the United States of America at tab 14, pp. 3-4, United States v. Michael Anthony Holloway, No. 91-8044 (5th Cir. filed June 7, 1991) (Order Granting Defendant’s Motion to Suppress) (emphasis added) [‘‘Record Excerpts”].
. See infra Part II.B, which establishes that reasonable suspicion is the prerequisite for a valid investigatory stop while probable cause is required for a valid arrest.
. We note that the district court issued its opinion on July 9, 1990 and entered an order denying the government’s motion for reconsideration of its order to suppress the cocaine on December 7, 1990. Since
Hodari D.
was not decided by the Supreme Court until April 23, 1991, the district court did not have the benefit of its guidance in ruling on these motions.
Hodari D.’s
predecessors include
Alabama v. White,
.
See Brower,
a Fourth Amendment seizure does not occur whenever there is a governmentally caused termination of an individual’s freedom of movement (the innocent passerby), nor even whenever there is a governmentally caused and governmentally desired termination of an individual’s freedom of movement (the fleeing felon), but only when there is a governmental termination of freedom of movement through means intentionally applied.
Id.
at 596-97,
. Specifically, for incidents where a suspect refuses to submit to an assertion of authority or no such assertion is made,
Hodari D.
defines the term "seizure” as “a laying on of hands or application of physical force to restrain movement, even when it is ultimately unsuccessful.” — U.S. at —,
. Appellee’s Brief in Response at 8, United States v. Michael Anthony Holloway, No. 91-8044 (5th Cir. filed Aug. 22, 1991). We are not persuaded, however, that Hodari D. necessarily applies to an investigatory stop.
. Holloway cites
Terry v. Ohio,
. In Hodari D., the Court also held that:
To constitute an arrest, however — the quintessential 'seizure of the person’ under our Fourth Amendment jurisprudence — the mere grasping or application of physical force with lawful authority, whether or not it succeeded in subduing the arrestee, was sufficient.... As one commentator has described it:
“There can be constructive detention, which will constitute an arrest, although the party is never actually brought within the physical control of the party making an arrest. This is accomplished by merely touching, however slightly, the body of the accused, by the party making the arrest and for that purpose, although he does not succeed in stopping or holding him even for an instant; as where the bailiff had tried to arrest one who fought him off by the fork, the court said, ‘If the bailiff had touched him, that had been an arrest_A. Cornelius, *457 Search and Seizure 163-164 (2d ed. 1930) (footnote omitted)
Id. (citations omitted) (emphasis added).
This Hodari D. holding appears determinative for our purposes. The only obvious distinction between the Hodari D. facts and those in the instant case is that, while attempting to back away from officers Staha and Thompson, another police vehicle moved up from behind Holloway, thereby boxing him in and giving Holloway a lesser opportunity to escape than that enjoyed by Hodari D. However, Holloway was still not under the officers’ control — an observation evidenced by the fact that Holloway was able to slam into the unit behind him, travelling far enough to pick up enough speed to damage both vehicles beyond repair. In fact, Holloway hit with enough force to buckle the driver’s seat he occupied. A photograph of the totalled vehicles, entered into evidence as "Government Exhibit G-2,” reveals that the entire trunk of Holloway’s vehicle virtually rested on the ground.
.Officer Staha testified as follows:
Q So then when you say you were — “you were 10 feet away," you were 10 feet away from the bumper?
A In front of the bumper, right.
Q All right. So it was actually maybe 15 or 17 feet to actually where the Defendant was sitting, is that correct?
A Approximately.
Q All right. So the windows, then, were all the way up on this vehicle, and you were maybe 15 feet away from the driver, and your partner was maybe just a little—
A About the same.
Record on Appeal, vol. 3, at 25 (testimony of officer Staha).
. The Zukas facts at least loosely parallel those now before us. Officers observed their suspects and, when it became apparent that the suspects were making final flight preparations, the officers parked their car in front of the suspects' plane so as to block its access to the runway. The officers then approached the pilot and asked for identification and registration papers which they retained and, after questioning the suspects further, the officers then obtained consent to search the plane and found a bag containing cocaine. Id. at 181. We held that:
Although both sides agree that the search was voluntary, it cannot be justified if the preceding level of intrusion made the seizure a de facto arrest before the consent was given, as Zukas argues was the case. We hold, however, that, based upon the totality of the circumstances, the level of intrusion prior to the consent search was no more than was necessary to dispel the officers’ legitimate suspicions.
Id. at 183.
. See supra note 1 and accompanying text; see generally infra Part II.B.
. These facts somewhat distinguish
Holloway
from
Hodari D.,
— U.S. —,
. See supra note 6 and accompanying text.
. For example, in
United States v. Robinson,
.In a situation where an officer’s suspicion was supported only by a receipt indicating that the suspect had purchased chemicals known to be used in the manufacture of controlled substances, this court held:
Agent Harr’s suspicions were aroused for the first time at the offices of Aldrich and as the two were driving off. Because he did not know their names or where they were heading, the stop on the highway was a reasonable means of confirming or dispelling his suspicions. The method of the stop — blocking the Oldsmobile, ordering the occupants out of the car, and patting them down for weapons — is a reasonable means of effecting the stop and ensuring the safety of the officers and does not convert the stop into a de facto arrest.
United States v. Martinez,
. Under
Terry
and its progeny, a temporary investigatory stop is proper if the stop is based on reasonable suspicion "that criminal activity may be afoot_”
. We must consider the collective knowledge and experience of the officers involved — that is we must look at "the sum total of layers of information and the synthesis of what the police have heard, what they know, and what they observed as trained officers. We weigh not the individual layers but the ‘laminated’ total.”
United States v. Edwards,
. For example, a tip from a confidential informant which is sufficiently corroborated, as is true in the instant case, may furnish the requisite reasonable suspicion to make an investigatory stop.
See United States v. Rodriquez,
.The defendant in Sokolow was stopped as he was about to get into a cab and later asserted that, rather than forcibly detaining him, agents should have opted for the "least intrusive means reasonably available to dispel their suspicion” and simply approached and spoken with him. The Court disagreed, holding that "[s]uch a rule would unduly hamper the police's ability to make swift on-the-spot decisions ..." Id. This is especially true in a situation such as that in the case before us where the defendant was actually in a vehicle and in the process of driving away.
. See supra note 1 and accompanying text.
. Id.; see also Record on Appeal, vol. 3, at 13-20 (testimony of officer Staha):
Q _ [The confidential informant] was debriefed on the street. And at that time, he indicated to you that he had seen the Defendant in possession of "Crack” cocaine a time before — a brief time before that, is that correct?
A Yeah, just moments before we went to the area.
Q All right. How long, an hour, a half hour? ******
Q .... Officer Thompson indicated that the confidential informant reported the possession to take place approximately a half hour before the debriefing?
A I can — I would agree with that.
******
Q [The informant] had seen him actually selling a half hour before, is that fcorrect?
A That’s correct.
Q All right. And your debriefing took approximately how long, Officer?
A Oh, 15 minutes.
Q And then after that debriefing, what did you do?.
A We proceeded to the area with the informant, he pointed out the car to us, and then as I recall, the informant was released at the scene—
Q So now, after you've seen this wreck, what’s the next thing that happens?
A Thompson and I approached the car, Thompson — the seat buckled from the wreck.... There’s no doubt that Holloway knew who I was, knew I was a police officer.
Q Now, why is there no doubt?
A Well, unfortunately when I worked east Austin, I was titled with a nickname_ Besides saying my last name, Staha, he said the nickname to me, too.
Q Tell the Judge, to the best of your memory, what the Defendant said when he was taken out of the car.
A He said, "Staha, why are you always messing with me?" And then he said — which is the nickname — he said, "‘Fathead,’ why you”— and he cursed at me — "why are you always f — in' with me?”
. See supra note 1 and accompanying text.
. Id.; see also Record on Appeal, vol. 3, at 11 (testimony of officer Staha):
. See supra note 1 and accompanying text.
. In
United States v. Costner,
The officers had been given descriptions of both robbers and knew the license plate numbers of the getaway truck. The license plate check directed the officers to Baldwin's residence at which time a car was seen heading for Baldwin’s driveway. The officers decided to inquire into the identities of the passengers since two of the occupants fit the general physical descriptions of the robbers. These factors were more than sufficient to create reasonable suspicion in the minds of the officers to stop the Plymouth.
Id. at 236. Officers Staha and Thompson had at least this much reason to suspect Holloway of criminal activity.
. Specifically, in Amuny we held that:
If a police officer identifies himself while approaching a suspect and the suspect flees, the suspect’s conduct suggests that he knowingly seeks to evade questioning or capture. Such conduct ordinarily supplies another element to the reasonable suspicion calculus ... but may occasionally serve as the catalyst to convert mere reasonable suspicion to probable cause.
Id.
(but ultimately holding that defendant’s flight from scene was ambiguous conduct and insufficient to support finding of probable cause);
see also Sibron v. New York,
. In fact, even without Holloway’s attempt to escape, the totality of information available to officers Staha and Thompson may have constituted probable cause. See supra notes 25-29 and accompanying text.
