Affirmed in part, vacated in part and remanded for further proceedings by published opinion. Judge HAMILTON wrote the opinion, in which Judge WILKINS and Judge LUTTIG joined.
OPINION
In this consolidated appeal, the appellants, Tyrone Greenfield (Greenfield) and Kenneth Wild (Wild), appeal from the judgment entered by the district court in their respective cases. In these consolidated appeals, we resolve whether the district court abused its discretion in allowing a juror to take notes during trial and whether the forfeiture of *671 Wild’s house pursuant to 21 U.S.C. § 853(a)(2) violated the Excessive Fines Clause of the Eighth Amendment. For reasons that follow, we affirm the appellants’ convictions, but vacate the forfeiture of Wild’s house and remand for further proceedings.
I
This case involved a conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute and to distribute cocaine base (crack) in Arlington, Virginia from early October 1992 until February 1993. Greenfield, the leader of the conspiracy, was the source of crack distributed by others, including Jean Hopkins (Hopkins). 1 Generally, Greenfield broke down larger amounts of crack and was assisted by Hopkins in the cutting, packaging, and distribution of crack.
It was established at trial that Hopkins made her house available to street dealers for the distribution of crack. Sometime in December 1992, Greenfield and Hopkins began to use Wild’s house for the distribution and storage of crack. There was no evidence introduced at trial that Wild ever sold or actively participated in the sale of crack; he was a crack addict who received a kickback, in the form of crack, from Greenfield and Hopkins for allowing them to use his house to store and distribute crack. Generally, the transactions at Wild’s house occurred at a table in his basement. During the transactions taking place in his basement, sometimes Wild would be present, though not at the table. On other occasions, Wild was given a quantity of crack to smoke in exchange for leaving the basement while Greenfield and Hopkins conducted a drug transaction. Greenfield and Hopkins would also conduct crack transactions in an upstairs bedroom, leaving Wild in the basement. 2
The evidence of distribution from Wild’s house from December 1992 to January 1993 was well established. Calvin Brown testified that he went to Wild’s house on two occasions to purchase crack. On the first occasion, Brown purchased $250 worth of crack, and on the second, $500 worth of crack. 3 Henry Cook testified that from mid-December 1992 until January 1993, he went to Wild’s house fifteen to twenty times per week to obtain crack.
On March 23,1993, a Grand Jury sitting in the Eastern District of Virginia returned an eight-count indictment charging Greenfield, Hopkins, and Wild with various violations of federal statutes, including conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute and to distribute fifty grams or more of crack. 21 U.S.C. §§ 841(a)(1) and 846 (count one). Count two of the indictment charged Wild with making a building available for the storing, distributing, and using of crack. 21 U.S.C. § 856(a). Count five charged Greenfield with using a firearm during and in relation to a drug trafficking crime. 18 U.S.C. § 924(c). Count six charged Greenfield with possession of crack with intent to distribute. 21 U.S.C. § 841(a)(1). Count seven charged Greenfield with distribution of crack. Id. Pursuant to 21 U.S.C. § 853(a)(2), the indictment contained an in personam criminal forfeiture count, which sought the forfeiture of Wild’s house. 4
At trial, the government’s evidence consisted of the testimony of government undercover agents, cooperating witnesses, and physical evidence seized from Wild’s house during a search on February 25, 1993. Following a three-day trial, Greenfield was found guilty on all counts. Wild was found guilty on count two and not guilty on count one; the jury also returned a special verdict, finding that Wild’s house “was used, or intended to *672 be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or facilitate the commission of the violation charged in Count 2.” (R. Doc. No. 20). 5 On June 21, 1993, in accordance with the jury’s special verdict, the district court ordered that Wild’s house, valued at $180,000, 6 be forfeited. 7
On July 1,1993, relying on
Austin v. United States,
— U.S.-,
Greenfield was sentenced to a term of imprisonment of 420 months, and Wild was sentenced to twenty-one months’ imprisonment. 8 The appellants noted a timely appeal.
II
The appellants contend that the district court abused its discretion in permitting a single juror to take notes and, as a result, there exists a strong likelihood that an unjust verdict was reached. At trial, counsel for Greenfield noticed that one juror was taking notes and objected to the juror’s taking notes:
Your Honor, I notice one of the jurors appears to be taking notes. I don’t know how Your Honor feels about that but I would object to that because if not all of them are taking notes I would be — it would be my position that the jurors would tend to rely on the person who is [taking notes] during deliberations.
(J.A. 176). The district court then instructed the jury:
Counsel brought to my attention that one of the jurors is taking notes. That is all right. I caution you about notes, however. The person who has notes in the jury room wields a big stick. The jurors should rely on their own recollection, not somebody else’s notes. Indeed, the juror who is taking notes should rely on her recollection, not her notes. I don’t mean that you can’t take notes. I just think that it is your recollection, not the notes that count.
(J.A. 177).
“Note taking by jurors is a matter of discretion with the district court.”
United States v. Polowichak,
Pursuant to
Polowichak,
it was clearly within the district court’s discretion to allow one juror, as well as all of the jurors, to take notes; and the district court gave an appropriate instruction on the use of such notes. Accordingly, the district court did not abuse its discretion in allowing one juror to take notes.
See also United States v. Oppon,
Ill
We turn to Wild’s contention that the in personam criminal forfeiture of his house *673 pursuant to 21 U.S.C. § 853(a)(2) violated the Excessive Fines Clause of the Eighth Amendment. He requests that we vacate the order of forfeiture and “remand the case to the district court for a hearing to determine whether the forfeiture penalty suffered by [him] is disproportionate to the seriousness of his offense.” Appellants’ Brief at 31.
The Eighth Amendment provides: “Excessive bail should not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.” U.S. Const. amend. VIII. “The Excessive Fines Clause limits the Government’s power to extract payments, whether in cash or in kind, as punishment for some offense.”
Austin,
— U.S. at -,
Recently, in
United States v. Chandler,
(1) whether the use of the property in the offense was deliberate and planned or merely incidental and fortuitous; (2) whether the property was important to the success of the illegal activity; (3) the time during which the property was illegally used and the spacial extent of its use; (4) whether its illegal use was an isolated event or had been repeated; and (5) whether the purpose of acquiring, maintaining or using the property was to carry out the offense.
Id. Applying this test in Chandler, this court concluded that the in rem forfeiture of Chandler’s thirty-three acre farm did not amount to an excessive fine under the Eighth Amendment. Id. at 366.
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In this case, the government urges us to follow
Chandler
and hold that the
in per-sonam
criminal forfeiture of Wild’s house pursuant to 21 U.S.C. § 853(a)(2) does not amount to an excessive fine. Wild, while not agreeing with
Chandler,
attempts to distinguish it on the basis that this case is not an
in rem
forfeiture case, but rather an
in personam
criminal forfeiture case. With this distinction in mind, Wild posits that the value of the property subject to forfeiture is a factor in determining whether an
in person-am
criminal forfeiture is excessive, and his position has support.
See, e.g., United States v. Libretti,
An
in personam
criminal forfeiture is an action against the person as distinguished from an
in rem
forfeiture which is an action against the property itself. In
in personam
criminal forfeitures, the person not the property is guilty of some offense. Here, the
in personam
criminal forfeiture sought by the government arises by virtue of the commission of an offense covered by 21 U.S.C. § 853(a) and the fact that the property was “used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of,” a violation covered by 21 U.S.C. § 853(a). 21 U.S.C. § 853(a)(2). The property is neither charged with nor convicted of an offense. The Supreme Court has explained, in
Alexander v. United States,
— U.S.-,-,
We cannot accept the government’s invitation to apply
Chandler
to this case for several reasons. First, to do so would ignore the Supreme Court’s admonition in
Alexander
that
in personam
criminal forfeitures are the equivalent of monetary punishments assessed against criminal defendants for the commission of some offense. Second, even Justice Scalia’s concurrence in
Austin,
which this court so heavily relied upon in
Chandler,
noted that the
in rem
excessiveness inquiry differs from the inquiry applied to cases of monetary fines and
in personam
criminal forfeitures because
in rem
civil forfeitures do not concern: “the appropriate value of the penalty in relation to the committed offense,
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but [rather] ... what property has been ‘tainted’ by unlawful use, to which issue the value of the property is irrelevant.”
Austin,
— U.S. at-,
Having reached the conclusion that the value of the property is an indispensable factor to be considered in an
in personam
criminal forfeiture, we are hesitant, in light of the dearth of Supreme Court guidance in this area, to formulate a bright-line test governing whether a particular
in personam
criminal forfeiture amounts to an excessive fine under the Eighth Amendment. Indeed, in
Alexander,
the Court neither set forth a test nor delineated factors that a court should consider in an
in personam
criminal forfeiture excessiveness inquiry. The Court did state, however, that the extent and duration of a defendant’s criminal activities should be considered.
Alexander,
— U.S. at-,
Despite this lack of guidance, we believe we can set forth a general principle to guide district courts in resolving excessiveness challenges to in personam criminal forfeitures pursuant to 21 U.S.C. § 853(a). Section 853(a) provides:
(a) Any person convicted of a violation of this subchapter or subchapter II of this chapter punishable by imprisonment for more than one year shall forfeit to the United States, irrespective of any provision of State law—
(1) any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation;
(2) any of the person’s property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation; and
(3) in the case of a person convicted of engaging in a continuing criminal enterprise in violation of section 848 of this title, the person shall forfeit, in addition to any property described in paragraph (1) or (2), any of his interest in, claims against, and property or contractual rights affording a source of control over, the continuing criminal enterprise.
Section 853(a) thus permits the
in personam
criminal forfeiture of property in three distinct situations.
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The first is “property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained ... as the result” of the violation covered by 21 U.S.C. § 853(a). 21 U.S.C. § 853(a)(1). The second is property “used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or facilitate the commission of’ an offense covered by § 853(a). 21 U.S.C. § 853(a)(2). The third pertains to a
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defendant who is convicted of engaging in a continuing criminal enterprise. 21 U.S.C. § 853(a)(3). In that instance, in addition to property forfeited under 21 U.S.C. §§ 853(a)(2) and (3), the defendant shall forfeit “any of his interest in, claims against, and property or contractual rights affording a source of control over, the continuing criminal enterprise.” An excessiveness challenge can never be mounted against an
in person-am
criminal forfeiture pursuant to 21 U.S.C. § 853(a)(1) because the forfeiture of property constituting, or derived from, proceeds of an illegal activity can never be “excessive” in a constitutional sense.
See Austin,
— U.S. at -n. 14,
In resolving the exeessiveness issue, a district court, in its discretion, may choose to hear additional evidence. Along a similar vein, to assist appellate review, a district court should make clear its findings and reasoning supporting its resolution of the exces-siveness issue.
In this case, the district court neither made findings nor set forth its reasoning for rejecting Wild’s challenge to the
in person-am
criminal forfeiture on excessiveness grounds. While it is true that this court applied the instrumentality test to the record before it in
Chandler,
we believe that, in this case, it is more appropriate to allow the district court to conduct the fact-intensive excessiveness inquiry in the first instance.
Alexander,
— U.S. at -,
IV
For the reasons stated herein, we affirm the appellants’ convictions, but vacate the forfeiture of Wild’s house and remand for further proceedings consistent with this opinion.
AFFIRMED IN PART, VACATED IN PART AND REMANDED FOR FURTHER PROCEEDINGS.
Notes
. Hopkins was initially a party to this consolidated appeal, but her motion to withdraw her appeal was granted by the court.
. There was some confusion at trial as to whether Wild’s house had two or more floors. It appears that the house had three floors and perhaps an attic. It also appears that there was no evidence introduced at trial that crack was sold or stored on the main floor of the house or the attic.
. On four or five occasions, Brown went to Wild's house to sell Wild crack for Wild's personal use.
. Counts three and four charged Hopkins with distribution of crack, 21 U.S.C. § 841(a)(1), and count eight charged her with possession of crack with intent to distribute. Id.
. Hopkins pled guilty on June 2, 1993, to counts three and four of the indictment. She was also found guilty by the juiy on count one and not guilty on count eight.
. The record reflects that there is a lien of $20,-000 on the property.
. We note that the district court’s order of forfeiture should have been entered as part of the total sentence imposed on Wild. See 21 U.S.C. § 853(a); Fed.R.Crim.P. 32(b).
. Hopkins was sentenced to a term of imprisonment of 324 months.
. In any event, any error here is clearly harmless. See Fed.R.Crim.P. 52(a).
. The majority in Austin did not wholeheartedly endorse Justice Sealia’s instrumentality approach:
Justice S CALIA suggests that the sole measure of an in rem forfeiture’s excessiveness is the relationship between the forfeited property and the offense. See post, at 2814-15. We do not rule out the possibility that the connection between the property and the offense may be relevant, but our decision today in no way limits the Court of Appeals from considering other factors in determining whether the forfeiture of Austin's property was excessive.
Austin,-U.S. at-n. 15,
. Of course, the forfeiture of property neither constituting, nor derived from, proceeds of an illegal
activity
must be distinguished from the forfeiture of property constituting, or derived from, proceeds of an illegal activity. The former is clearly a form of punishment; the latter is not, and thus, is not covered by the Excessive Fines Clause of the Eighth Amendment.
See Austin,
-U.S. at - n. 14,
. While it is true that proportionality review is traditionally associated with the Cruel and Unusual Punishment Clause of the Eighth Amendment,
see, e.g., Harmelin
v.
Michigan,
. Section 853(b) defines the property subject to forfeiture under § 853(a) to include:
(1) real property, including things growing on, affixed to, and found in land; and
(2) tangible and intangible personal property, including rights, privileges, interests, claims, and securities.
