Affirmed by published opinion. Judge MOTZ wrote the opinion, in which Judge MICHAEL joined.
OPINION
The sole issue presented in this case is whether the district court committed reversible error in refusing to suppress statements taken from a defendant assertedly in violation of his Fifth and Sixth Amendment rights to counsel. Because the defendant waived his Fifth Amendment right and because the Sixth Amendment violation constituted harmless error, we affirm.
I.
We review
de novo
the ultimate question of whether the government violated a defendant’s Fifth and Sixth Amendment rights, but we must “take care both to review findings of historical fact only for clear error and to give due weight to inferences drawn from those facts by resident judges and local law enforcement officers.”
Ornelas v. United States,
At approximately 3:00 a.m. on November 26, 1995, Officer Alan Lowrey of the Arlington County Police Department observed an automobile traveling behind him with only one functioning headlight, in violation of Ya. Code § 46.2-1030 (1996). After further observation, Officer Lowrey signaled to the car to pull over. He- noted that five occupants were inside and that the car windows were rolled down despite the fact that it was a bitter cold evening. Officer Lowrey asked the driver for his license and registration. While Officer Lowrey checked the documents against computer records, back-up officers arrived, including Officer David Torpy. In Spanish, Officer Torpy asked thе driver of the car if there were any drugs or guns in the ear and whether the officers could search the ear. The driver denied having any drugs or guns and did not immediately respond to the search request.
As Officer Torpy discussed with the driver whether he would consent to a search, Officer Lowrey walked back to the passenger side of the car and asked Jose Aldalberto Melgar, who was in the front passenger seat, whether there were any drugs or guns in the car. Melgar, too, asserted that there were none.
When the driver eventually consented to a search of his car, Melgar got out of the car. He initially took his jacket with him, then hesitated and left it behind. - As Officer Low-rey searched the car, he spotted this jacket on the front passenger seat. Officer Lowrey lifted the jacket and felt the outline of a gun in one of the pockets. After a computer check revealed that Melgar did not have a registered permit for the concealed weapon, the officers arrested him for illegal possession of a firearm. A search incident to Mel-gar’s arrest uncovered a small amount of marijuana and an alien identification card, which, the district court expressly found, “Officer Lowrey immediately recognized as a fake.”
Melgar,
The next day Melgar was arraigned in state court on charges of possession of a concealed firearm withоut a permit, possession of marijuana, and possession of a fictitious government identification card. At his state arraignment, Melgar invoked his right to assistance of counsel, and the court appointed counsel for him.
*1009 On the same day, a state law enforcement officer contacted Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) Agent Lloyd Miner regarding Melgar. Agent Miner’s ordinary duties with the INS involve investigating suspected violations of United States immigration laws, and he is often called by state law enforcement officers who believe that they have information about illegal aliens. Miner understood the state officer in this ease to be calling him with routine information about a suspeсted illegal alien. Miner told the state officer that he would interview Melgar during the week regarding his immigration status — specifically Melgar’s alienage and eligibility for deportation. The district court found that the state officer’s contact with Miner “was not part of a conscious plan or effort to circumvent defendant’s invocation of his right to counsel in connection with the state charges.” Id. at 945 n. 7.
Miner interviewed Melgar two days later on November 29, 1995, at the local detention center where Melgar was held. At the outset of the interrogation, Miner identified himself to Melgar as an INS agent and told Melgar that he was interviewing him only to discuss Melgar’s immigration status, not the state criminal charges. Miner twiсe advised Melgar in Spanish of his Miranda rights. Melgar signed a written waiver of those rights.
During the interrogation, Melgar admitted to Agent Miner that he was bom in El Salvador and that both of his parents were citizens and nationals of that country. He further stated that he had last entered the United States in October 1994 illegally. In addition, when Agent Miner asked if Melgar had any identifying scars or marks, Melgar showed Miner a tattoo, which Miner recognized as the symbol of membership in an El Salvadoran gang, “Mara Salvatrucha.”
Following the interview, Agent Miner conducted the standard INS computer checks, which confirmed Melgar’s status as an illegal alien. At this time, in mid-December, more than a week after Agent Miner’s interview with Melgar, Miner was named as ease agent. The district court found that “Agent Miner testified credibly that at the time of the interview [of Melgar], he assumed someone else would be named case agent if defendant were later prosecuted on any federal charges,” and that “[a]t the time of his interview of defendant, his sole interest was defendant’s alienage and deportability.” Id. at 946.
On December 18, 1995, federal agents— including Agent Miner — arrested Melgar, who had been released on bond from state custody. On February 20, 1996, the United States indicted Melgar for possession of a firearm by an illegal alien in violation of 18 U.S.C.A. § 922(g)(5) (West Supp.1996), possession of marijuana in violation of 21 U.S.C.A. § 844 (West 1981 & Supp.1997), and possession of a fraudulent identification card in violation of 18 U.S.C.A. § 1546(a) (West Supp.1997). Prosecution of the state offenses was stayed pending resolution of the federal charges.
Melgar moved to suppress the statements taken from him by Agent Miner, asserting,
inter alia,
that they were elicited in violation of his right to counsel. After conducting two evidentiary hearings, Judge T.S. Ellis, III, entered an order denying the suppression motion. A few weeks later, Judge Ellis issued an opinion, carefully setting forth the reasons for that order.
Melgar,
II.
On appеal, Melgar claims only that Judge Ellis erred in refusing’to suppress his statements to Agent Miner. Melgar asserts that Miner’s interrogation of him, after he invoked his right to counsel in state court, contravened his constitutional rights. The Fifth and the Sixth Amendment each guarantee a right to assistance of counsel; Melgar maintains that the government violated both provisions in his case.
The Sixth Amendment, of course, specifically provides a right to counsel: “[i]n all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy
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the right ... to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.” U.S. Const, amend. VI. In
Massiah v. United States,
The purpose of the Fifth Amendment right “is to protect ... the suspect’s desire to deal with the police only through counsel.”
McNeil v. Wisconsin,
Because, as Judge Ellis recognized, “[t]he scope of an accused’s right to counsel under the Fifth Amendment is bounded by the explicit right from which it is derived— namely, the right to be free from compelled self-incrimination,” this right “arises only in situations where the right to be free from compelled self-incrimination might be threatened, as, for example, where an individual is subjected to custodial interrogation by the police.”
Melgar,
However, in another respect, the scope of the Fifth Amendment right is broader.
Id.
If a suspect requests counsel in an interrogation context, the Fifth Amendment affords him рrotection regardless of the subject of the interrogation. Once a suspect properly invokes his Fifth Amendment right to counsel, he may not be questioned “regarding
any
offense unless counsel is present.”
Id.
at 177,
Both the Fifth and Sixth Amendment rights to counsel can be waived at the outset. Once the right to counsel is properly invoked, however, “any subsequent waiver during a police-initiated custodial interview is ineffective,”
id.
at 175,
With these principles in mind, we turn to the ease at hand.
III.
Melgar maintains that Agent Miner violated his Fifth Amendment rights “by im- *1011 permissibly initiating an interrogation after his request for appointment of counsel.” Brief of Appellant at 14. Melgar explains that he
invoked his right to counsel at arraignment in the Arlington County General District Court on the day following his arrest on Virginia charges. INS Agent Miner went to the Arlington ADC to see Melgar, not at Melgar’s invitation or request, to interrogate him about matters later used in the federal prosecution against him. Melgar’s counsel was not present. This was in violation of Melgar’s Fifth Amendment right not to be interrogated after his request for counsel.
Id. at 21. In view of the controlling legal principles set forth above, Melgar’s Fifth Amendment argument must fail.
First, although Melgar invoked his right to counsel at his arraignment on state charges, the right invoked was grounded in the Sixth Amendment, not the Fifth. In order for the Fifth Amendment protection to arise, a suspect must be in a custodial interrogation context. Melgar’s arraignment did not constitute an interrogation any more than the initial hearing in
McNeil
constituted an interrogation.
McNeil,
A few days after his arraignment in state court, Agent Miner interrogated Melgar. If Melgar had requested counsel at that juncture, he could have availed himself of his Fifth Amendment right to counsel, but Mel-gar did not ask for counsel at any time during the interrogation. Rather, after Agent Miner twice read Melgar his
Miranda
rights in Spanish, Melgar signed a written waiver of them. Moreover, as Judge Ellis found, “nothing ... suggests] that this waiver was anything less than fully informed and voluntary.”
Melgar,
For these reasons, Agent Miner’s interrogation of Melgar did not violate the Fifth Amendment. Judge Ellis correctly rejected Melgar’s claim to the contrary.
IV.
Melgar’s Sixth Amendment argument presents a more complicated question. Mel-gar undoubtedly invoked his Sixth Amendment right to counsel at his arraignment. Accordingly, Melgar’s written waiver of his Fifth Amendment right to counsel, obtained at the outset of his interview with Agent Miner, was “ineffective” in waiving his previously invoked Sixth Amendment right.
McNeil,
Melgar, however, contends that his federal offenses were so “inextricably intertwined” or “closely rеlated” to the state charges for which he had invoked his Sixth Amendment right to counsel, that to invoke the right for one was essentially to invoke the right for the other.
See, e.g., United States v. Arnold,
Maine v. Moulton,
Prior to
Moulton,
numerous courts had held that
Massiah
“did not protect a defendant from the introduction of postindictment statements deliberately elicited when the police undertook an investigation of separate crimes.”
Id.
at 189,
In seeking evidence pertaining to pending charges, ... the Government’s investigative powers are limited by the Sixth Amendment rights of the accused. To allow the admission of evidence obtained from the accused in violation of his Sixth Amendment rights whenever the police assert an alternative, legitimate reason for their surveillance invites abuse by law enforcement personnel in the form of fabricated investigations and risks the evisceration of the Sixth Amendment right recognized in Massiah. ... Consequently, incriminating statements pertaining to pending charges аre inadmissible at the trial of those charges, not withstanding the fact that the police were also investigating other crimes, if, in obtaining this evidence, the State violated the Sixth Amendment by knowingly circumventing the accused’s right to the assistance of counsel.
Moulton,
In
Moulton,
the state initially charged the defendant with four counts of theft, all involving receipt of stolen vehicles and stolen auto parts.
Id.
at 162,
The state petitioned for a writ of certiorari, which the Supreme Court granted. Id. Emphasizing that “at the very least, the prosecutor and police have an affirmative obligation not to act in a manner that circumvents ... the protection afforded by the right to counsel,” the Moulton Court held that the government’s post-indictment questioning of the defendant “knowingly circumvent[ed]” his right to counsel and so violated his Sixth Amendment rights. Id. at 171, 176-77, 106
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S.Ct. at 484-85, 487-88. In doing so, the Court affirmed the state court’s determination that the post-indictment interrogation required a new trial on the theft counts, which had been previously charged,
and
the closely-related burglary count which had not been charged until
after
the interrogation.
Id.
at 180,
Lower courts have followed
Moulton
and concluded that the “Sixth Amendment right to counsel extends to interrogations on new charges where the pending charge is ... inextricably intertwined with the charge under investigation.”
United States v. Doherty,
In
United States v. Kidd,
Melgar is correct that his state and federal charges involve the same time, place, and conduct. Specifically, both the state and federal firearm possession charges are based on the seizure of a gun from Melgar when state police arrested him on November 26. Similarly, the state and federal drug charges arose from seizure of marijuana during that arrest, and both the state and federal false identification card charges stem from Mel-gar’s possession, at the time of that arrest, of a single document — a false alien identification card.
However, the fact that the old and new charges involve the same time, place,
*1015
and conduct is not enough to invoke the “closely related” exception. A defendant must also demonstrate that the interrogation on the new offenses produced incriminating evidence as to the previously charged offenses.
See Kidd,
12 F.3d at -33. Courts have not applied the closely related exception in favor of a defendant absent the production of such evidence.
See, e.g., Moulton,
Thus, we decline to adopt Melgar’s interpretation of the closely related exception. Although the closely related exception is required to prevent the government from “acting in a manner that circumvents” the
Massiah
right,
Moulton,
In the case at hand, the district court concluded that because Agent Miner’s interrogation produced no evidence
“necessary
to prove the state charges,” Melgar’s Sixth Amendment rights were not violated.
Melgar,
Miner’s interrogation did indeed produce incriminating (although not “necessary”) evidence as to the pending state false identification card charge. The agent elicited that Melgar had come to this country illegally and had been here for some time, producing evidence of motive and opportunity for Melgar to obtain a false identification card.
Furthermore, Agent Miner, like the police officers in
Moulton,
knew of the defendant’s pending charges to which the defendant had invoked his Sixth Amendment right to counsel. Indeed, INS Agent Miner, having consulted with state police officers, knew that Melgar had been arrested on charges stemming from possession of a fictitious
alien
identification card. Based on this knowledge, Miner, like the officers in
Moulton,
must have known that he was likely to obtain incriminating statements from Melgar. The Supreme Court in
Moulton
expressly noted
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that because “[d]ireet proof of the State’s knowledge will seldom be available,” all that is needed to establish a Sixth Amendment violation is. that the state “must have known that its agent was likely to obtain incriminating statements from the accused in the absence of counsel.”
Moulton,
Of course, Agent Miner, like the police in
Moulton,
provided “alternative, legitimate reason[s]” for the interrogation.
Id.
at 180,
Melgar’s victory, however, is pyrrhie. Although the admission of incriminating statements regarding his alien status violated his Sixth Amendment rights and so constituted error, that error was harmless. An error is harmless if “viewing the record as a whole, it is ‘clear beyond a reasonable doubt that the jury would have returned a verdict of guilty1 absent the testimony.”
United States v. Jones,
At Melgar’s trial, Officer Lowrey testified that at the time of arrest, officers found a laminated “resident alien” card with “a picture that resemble[d] Mr. Melgar” and a signature that bore the name “Jose Aldalber-to Melgar” in Melgar’s wallet. Based on his experience as a police officer, Officer Lowrey stated that he knew from viewing the card that it was fraudulent. He explained:
A valid resident alien card is a picture of the whole card, everything is one picture, it should be smooth. The seal should overlap into the picture of the person it’s issued to without obliterating the picture or the seal. Here, you can see it does not move into the seal at all. You can feel that this picture is not a part of the card. It obviously is a cut-out picture that has been placed under there.
Agent Miner corroborated Officer Lowrey’s assessment as to the obvious falsification of the card.
This evidence was not in any way controverted at trial, and we can only conclude that, even absent introduction of Melgar’s statements to Miner concerning his illegal alien status, “it is clear beyond a reasonable doubt” that the jury would have returned a verdict of guilty on the charge of possession of a false alien identification card. 3
AFFIRMED.
Notes
. The Supreme Court has never retreated from
Moulton.
In
Brewer v. Williams,
. Indeed, some courts have concluded that if stale and federal authorities engage in deliberate misconduct, colluding to "circumvent” the accused's Sixth Amendment rights, this provides an additional, independent, basis for finding an exception to the Sixth Amendment offense-specific rule.
See,
e.g.,
United States v. Hines,
We note that on appeal Melgar heavily relies on Agent Miner’s report, dated November 29— the day of his interview with Melgar — to demonstrate asserted collusion between federal officials and the Virginia Gang Task Force [VGTF]. The report states: "VGTF agents and this writer are pursuing federal charges against subject for alien in possession of a firearm.” Melgar argues that this sentence flatly contradicts Miner's testimony at the suppression hearing that he "did not believe” he knew about any planned federal charges against Melgar as late as December 12. Because Melgar never asserted this argument below, the prosecution never had a chance to address it. This certainly presents an excellent reason to follow our usual rule and refuse to consider arguments not initially made to the district court absent plain error.
See, e.g., United States v. Maxton,
. Admission of Melgar’s statement was even more clearly harmless with regard to the marijuana and weapons charges. The evidence as to the marijuana charge was uncontradicted and independent of information contained in Mel-gar's statement to Agent Miner. We are confident "beyond a reasonable doubt that the jury would have returned a verdict of guilty” on the marijuana charge absent Melgar’s statement.
See Jones,
