The government tried Defendant-Appellant Dewayne Pressley (“Pressley”) for attempted armed robbery. At the start of the second day of jury deliberations, the presiding judge had an ex parte conversation with one juror about whether hung juries often divide along racial lines. The judge reiterated the substance of this conversation during a hearing at which defense counsel and attorneys for the government were present. Neither party objected to the conversation at this time. The jury later returned a guilty verdict against Pressley. Pressley now appeals, contending that the judge’s ex parte conversation with one juror might have affected the jury’s verdict. Because the record demonstrates that neither Pressley’s counsel’s presence nor Pressley’s presence either before or during the judge’s conversation with the juror would have affected the verdict, we affirm.
I. BACKGROUND
The government indicted and tried Press-ley, an African-American male, for attempted armed robbery in connection with a failed attempt to rob a Maywood branch of the First Federal Savings Bank of Proviso Township. On the morning of the second day of jury deliberations, the judge held an on-the-record conference in-chambers to advise the parties that one of the jurors had initiated a conversation with him outside of the presence of the other jurors, Pressley and the attorneys. Counsel for both parties attended the in-chambers conference.
*59 During this conference, the judge recounted his conversation with the juror. He stated that earlier that morning a United States Marshall informed him that a juror wished to speak with him. The marshall then escorted the juror into the judge’s chambers. According to the judge, the juror told him that previously she had served on a jury which “was hung along racial lines” and that “she had the sense or the impression that the possibility of jurors lining up along racial lines existed in the present case.” 1 She then asked the judge whether such racial division is common. The judge responded that “[tjhat [juries] sometimes divide along racial lines, that’s likewise true, unfortunately.” The judge also asked her whether the jurors were deliberating and whether she was participating in the deliberations. After she responded to both questions, the judge instructed her to return to the jury room and continue deliberating.
After recounting the conversation on the record, the judge asked the parties to state their positions with respect to the judge’s handling of the conversation. Neither party objected to the judge’s handling of the conversation at that time, and both parties stated that they wanted the jury to continue deliberating without further instructions.
In the afternoon, the jury submitted a written request for transcripts from witnesses’ testimony and requested that the judge visit them in the jury room. After the court denied these requests, the jury submitted another note stating “We cannot reach a unanimous verdict. Our conclusion is 10 guilty and 2 unsure. What should we do?” After hearing arguments on the matter, the court found that the jury was not yet deadlocked. The court re-convened the jury and re-read the Silvern instruction to the jury.
Later in the day, the jury sent another communique to the court stating that they were “getting nowhere” and asking the court to dismiss them for the day and let them reconvene in the morning. After hearing argument of counsel, the court granted this request.
The jury re-convened the following morning and' returned a guilty verdict against Pressley that afternoon. The court entered judgment on the verdict and sentenced Pressley to 120 months in prison and three years supervised release. Pressley appeals his conviction.
II. DISCUSSION
Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 43(a) entitles a defendant to be present at all stages of his trial. Fed.R.Crim.P. 43(a). Communication between the judge and the jury, or a single juror, is one of those stages.
Rogers v. United States,
Here, the judge conferred with the juror privately in chambers, and the judge did not give Pressley’s counsel an opportunity to object before he responded to the juror’s inquiries. Therefore, the judge’s ex parte conversation with the juror violated Pressley’s rights under Rule. 43.
However, error under Rule . 43(a) may be harmless, not mandating reversal and a new trial.
Rogers,
Relying on
United States v. Smith,
In
Smith,
we held that a violation of Rule 43(a) required reversal because the ex parte communications at issue touched upon a “fundamental issue” rather than “housekeeping matters” and because those communications were not available for review on the record.
In contrast, in the instant action, the judge’s comments that juries often divide along racial lines and that the juror should continue deliberating did not touch upon Pressley’s guilt or innocence. Furthermore, even if these comments had touched upon Pressley’s guilt or innocence, they could not be interpreted as leaning in favor of the government. As such, the judge’s comments did not affect the fullness of Pressley’s opportunity to defend himself against the charges against him. Therefore, unlike the judge’s response in
Smith,
the judge’s comments here did not touch upon a fundamental issue.
See Gagnon,
Moreover, even if the judge’s comments had touched upon a fundamental issue, the record here, unlike the record in
Smith,
affirmatively demonstrates that the judge’s comments did not affect the jury’s verdict. Although the judge’s comments are not available on the record for review, other factors in the record indicate that the judge’s comments were not prejudicial. Most notably, in
Smith,
defense counsel objected to the judge’s communications with the jury after the judge revealed the substance of the communications at an in-chambers conference.
Smith,
Defense counsel’s failure to object to the response renders the instant action more analogous to the situation in
United States v. Rodriguez,
Moreover, the timing of and circumstances surrounding the jury’s verdict negate any possibility that the judge’s comments affected the jury’s verdict. Pressley contends that the judge’s comments might have confirmed the juror’s fears that the jury’s deliberations might result in a hung jury. Pressley reasons that by confirming the juror’s fears of a hung jury, the judge’s comments may have induced the juror to surrender her convictions in the interest of a unanimous verdict. However, as stated above, the jury deliberated for one and one-half days after the judge’s comments before reaching its verdict. This length of time alone suggests that the judge’s comments did not induce the juror to disregard her conscience.
Cf. Coffman,
Judges realize that this kind of contact with a juror is most sensitive and should be avoided. We do not know from the record what extenuating circumstances may have caused the judge to meet with the juror, but no harm was done.
III. CONCLUSION
For the reasons expressed above, we hold that because the judge’s ex parte conversation did not affect the verdict, any error resulting from the judge’s failure to secure Pressley’s presence or consult with Press-ley’s counsel before communicating with the juror was harmless. Accordingly, Pressley’s conviction is
Affirmed.
Notes
. The record does not reveal what race the juror was, and we do not wish to speculate on the matter.
. Pressley maintains that his counsel’s failure to object is irrelevant to this appeal because we
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must review a violation of Rule 43(a) for harmless error even if defense counsel failed to raise the issue below. While Pressley correctly notes that the absence of an objection does not alter the standard of review,
Patterson,
