Opinion for the Court filed by Circuit Judge GARLAND.
Morris Christian, who was convicted of possession of a firearm by a convicted felon in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1), appeals the district court’s denial of his motion to suppress the firearm. He argues that the police violated his Fourth Amendment rights by searching his car, next to which he was standing at the time of his arrest. We agree with Christian that the search, which yielded the firearm, cannot be justified as a search incident to arrest because at the time of the search the police did not have probable cause to believe he had committed a crime. We agree with the government, however; that the search was permissible as part of a valid investigatory stop and weapons search under the Supreme Court’s decisions in
Terry v. Ohio,
I
On the afternoon of October 12, 1997, Officer Allee Ramadhan of the Metropolitan Police Department and his partner were stationed in an area of southeast Washington, D.C., that they characterized as “notorious for drug selling and stolen property.” App. 22. From their squad car they observed Christian standing “right next to” an empty, two-door Chevrolet Camaro. He was with a woman who was holding a white plastic bag. Christian himself was holding three cans of deodorant under his arm, and two unidentifiable objects in his hand. According to Rama-dhan, “as soon as he saw” the police, Christian threw the two objects through the Camaro’s front window, which was open approximately five or six inches. Id. at 23.
The officers approached Christian and the woman to investigate. Through the car’s partially open window, Ramadhan noticed a dagger with a six-inch blade wedged between the driver’s seat and the front passenger’s seat. Ramadhan asked whose vehicle it was, and Christian said it was his. Because the driver-side door was locked, Ramadhan asked for the car keys. After Christian handed them over, but without his consent to search, Ramadhan entered the car to secure the dagger.
While retrieving the dagger, the officer noticed two tubes of toothpaste on the floor, which Christian identified as the items he had tossed through the window. Ramadhan also noticed a bag lying on the front passenger’s seat next to the dagger. He picked up the bag, felt what he thought was a weapon inside, and opened it to find a loaded, .45 caliber handgun, and additional ammunition. After learning that Christian had a prior felony conviction, Ramadhan placed him under arrest. Thereafter, he “did a pat-down ... to make sure [Christian] didn’t have any more guns on him.” Id. at 39-40.
Christian was indicted for being a felon in possession of a firearm, and moved to suppress the gun on the ground that the warrantless search of his car violated the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution. Ramadhan was the only witness at the suppression hearing and testified as set forth above. Crediting the officer’s testimony, the district court denied Christian’s motion, stating:
The premise of . the seizure of these items and the arrest of this defendant begins with what I think is appropriately categorized as a Terry stop.... [W]hen the defendant saw him, the defendant threw a couple of items into the *666 car. That activity in that neighborhood gave rise to a reasonable articulable suspicion that something was going on; and ... it was proper for the officer to follow up.... So that disposes of that question. When the officer then saw what he described as a large dagger sticking in between the seats, it gave rise to appropriate further action on the officer’s part, including checking out that dagger [and] picking up the bag next to it, because under Terry the officer is permitted to [examine] by plain touch or plain feel that which might bear on the safety of the officer himself.
Id. at 44-46.
Christian subsequently entered a conditional plea of guilty, reserving his right to appeal the suppression ruling. See Fed. R.CRIm.P. 11(a)(2). The court sentenced him to two years probation. This appeal followed.
II
The government advances two exceptions to the Fourth Amendment’s warrant requirement that, it contends, validate the officers’ warrantless search of Christian’s car. It argues, first, that the police had probable cause to arrest Christian for possessing a dangerous weapon, and therefore had authority to conduct a search incident to that arrest. It argues, second, that the officers had reasonable suspicion to stop and question Christian, and that, given their equally reasonable fear that he was armed, they also had authority to conduct a protective search for weapons.
We decide
de novo
whether the police had probable cause, reasonable suspicion or reasonable fear.
See Ornelas v. United States,
A
A search incident to arrest is a well recognized exception to the Fourth Amendment’s warrant requirement. As the Supreme Court held in
Chimel v. California,
“[w]hen an arrest is made, it is reasonable for the arresting officer to search the person arrested in order to remove any weapons that the latter might seek to use in order to resist arrest or effect his escape.”
The government argues that the police officers had probable cause to place Christian under arrest once they detected the dagger in plain view in the car’s front seat and confirmed that the car was his. Possession of the dagger, the government contends, is a violation of D.C.Code Ann. § 22-3214(b). The problem with the government’s theory, however, is that the cited statute does not make possession of a dagger, without more, a crime.
Section 22-3214 is composed of two subsections. Subsection (a) makes it a crime to possess certain listed weapons, including machine guns, sawed-off shotguns, blackjacks, switchblades, and metal knuckles — none of which Christian had. That subsection has no specific intent requirement because, according to the District of Columbia Court of Appeals, the listed weapons are “so highly suspect and devoid of lawful use that their mere possession is forbidden.”
United States v. Brooks,
Lacking any direct evidence that Christian intended to use the dagger unlawfully, the government offers two pieces of circumstantial evidence. First, it contends that “[s]ince daggers, unlike kitchen knives, have no obvious utilitarian purpose, particularly in cars, this dagger’s incriminating nature was self-evident.” Gov’t Br. at 8. Second, it asks us to infer a possible criminal intent from the fact that the dagger and the car were in a high-crime neighborhood. But as the government conceded at oral argument, there is at least one “utilitarian” and perfectly lawful purpose for keeping a dagger in a car, particularly in a high-crime neighborhood: self-defense.
See McBride v. United States,
Nor is the government assisted by the Supreme Court’s .statement, in
Adams v. Williams,
that “[p]robable cause does not require the same type of specific evidence of each element of the offense as would be needed to support a conviction.”
*668 B
The government’s second justification for the seizure of the gun is that it occurred during a valid protective search for weapons under the “stop and frisk” doctrine of
Terry v. Ohio,
In
Michigan v. Long,
the Court, employing the same standard applied in
Chi-mel,
held that the scope of a
Terry
search may extend beyond the person of the suspect.
In the case at bar, the district court found that a police officer who had regularly worked “an area notorious for drug selling and stolen property” could reasonably be suspicious of someone who, “when seeing the officer,” immediately “throws something into a car.” App. 53. Defendant does not dispute the court’s assessment that there was sufficient basis for a brief
Terry
stop,
2
and we agree because the defendant’s actions raised a reasonable suspicion that he was trying to hide contraband from the officers.
3
See United States v. Smith,
Defendant does, however, dispute that the police had the kind of “reasonable fear” necessary to justify a search for weapons. He further contends that, even if the police did have such reasonable fear, the car’s passenger seat was not an area within his “immediate control” from which weapons could be obtained. Def. Br. at 14. We consider these two arguments in turn.
First, we agree with the district court that Officer Ramadhan had sufficient indication Christian might be armed and dangerous to justify a protective search for weapons. In
Long,
the Court said that “danger may arise from the possible presence of weapons in the area surrounding a suspect.”
Defendant protests that because his possession of the dagger was lawful, it cannot supply the justification for a protective search. But the Supreme Court expressly rejected the same argument regarding a defendant’s hunting knife in
Long
itself.
Christian further contends that Officer Ramadhan’s actions belie the government’s claim that he regarded Christian as a threat. After all, he did not frisk Christian’s person until after he had found the gun and placed him under arrest. Had the officer truly feared him, Christian argues, he would have frisked him before turning to the car.
This argument misses the mark for two reasons. First, as appellate judges we do not second-guess a street officer’s assessment about the order in which he should secure potential threats. To the contrary, we must defer to his “quick decision as to how to protect himself and others from possible danger.”
Terry,
Christian's second argument is that, even if the police had a sufficient foundation for a Terry search, the car's interior was beyond its lawful scope. He correctly points out that unlike the facts of Long, in which the defendant's car door was open, the police knew Christian's driver-side door was closed and locked, and the officer had taken the keys. Under those circumstances, he contends, the car's interior was not "within his immediate control."
We begin by noting that the fact that Ramadhan obtained the keys is not relevant to the analysis. The officer requested the keys to use them to open the door to secure the knife. As in the related context of searches incident to arrest, we assess a Terry search from the standpoint of the moment of the stop-at which time Christian stifi had the keys-not from the subsequent period in which the officer begins to take protective measures. Otherwise, "we might create a perverse incentive for an arresting officer to prolong the period during which the arrestee is kept in an area where he could pose a danger to the officer." Abdul-Saboor,
Under these circumstances, the officers were "reasonably warrant[ed] ... in believing that" Christian could have "gain[ed] immediate control" of the weapon. It was not unreasonable to fear he might lunge for the door, open it with the keys, and grab the knife. As the Court stated in Long, it is mistaken to discount police concern over an individual simply "because he was effectively under their control during the investigative stop." Long,
Moreover, even if control were measured at the time the officer had the
*671
keys, we would still conclude Christian had sufficient control over the front seat of his car to satisfy the
Chimel
standard.
See United States v. Mancillas,
Finally, as the Court instructed in
Long,
we must also consider that
“if the
suspect is not placed under arrest, he will be permitted to reenter his automobile, and he will then have access to any weapons inside.”
Long,
*672 III
We conclude that the seizure of Christian’s gun did not violate his rights under the Fourth Amendment. Accordingly, the district court properly denied defendant’s motion to suppress the evidence, and we affirm his conviction.
Notes
.
See McBride v. United States,
. In a footnote, defendant does suggest that any justification for the stop and subsequent weapons search dissipated once the officer saw the tubes of toothpaste on the floor and heard Christian say they were what he had tossed. Def. Br. at 15 n.9. But at that point the officer did not know defendant was telling the truth (the officer had not yet searched for any other objects that might have been thrown), and hence he was not obligated to break off his effort to secure the area on Christian's word alone.
. The government contends that once Officer Ramadhan "observed a dagger in plain view in the car, he had a reasonable articulable suspicion to believe that appellant was committing a weapons offense." Gov't Br. at 16. For the same reasons discussed in Part 11(A), we do not agree that the presence of the dagger in the car gave rise to reasonable suspicion that Christian was in possession of a prohibited weapon, an offense which requires specific intent. Nor do we understand why the government makes this argument. The officer did not mention the dagger as a basis for the suspicion that led to the stop. See App. 30-31. Although the district court did rely on the dagger to establish the reasonable fear required for the car search (as do we, see text infra), the court did not rely on it for the reasonable suspicion required to justify the initial Terry stop. See App. 45 ("[W]hen the defendant saw him, the defendant threw a couple of items into the car. That activity in that neighborhood gave rise to a reasonable articulable suspicion that something was going on.”). As noted in the text, Christian’s throw, which gave rise to the suspicion that he was trying to remove something from the officer's view, was sufficient to validate the stop.
. For the same reasons, defendant is not helped by Ramadhan's testimony that he initially entered the car "to get the knife, get the stuff out of the vehicle [that Christian] just threw inside," rather than to check for additional weapons. App. 35.
.
See, e.g., United States v. Mason,
. Our decision in
United States v. Fafowora,
