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United States v. Andre Williams
731 F.3d 678
7th Cir.
2013
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*1 this, thе to the But a case like only mil- class. worth is indeed if Kore’s net $1 (which damages of net award to the class members it Kore’s percent is if 1 lion stipulated), greater effect only $10,000, as the would have no deterrent is worth class, and, remedy, less for sought proba- cy pres the than would do damages by the attorney’s money the fee that than if the is bly important, protection more consumer prevails, protection charity, if the class given court will award a consumer the to call wake-up significant the a for Kore impose make suit a administra- will would $10,000 a effect on future over handing so have deterrent tive the expense the Trans- Electronic Funds a avoid. single violations to institution would by Kore and others. The sticker fer Act might be time-saving A alternative more; judgment but a is no requirement at the purpose, class the stated action with greater to take care would remind Kore suit, of a award to outset of the collective law, to with federal how- comply the future of such specific charity. not aware We may seem. compliance ever irksome possibility of it for mention the but must be But the district court careful future reference. expenditure the tail litigation to allow not class is re- decertifying order the remedy dog. Baby In re Prod wag to further the case remanded for versed and Litigation, Antitrust

ucts opinion. proceedings consistent with this (3d (A reason, Cir.2013). remember, opinion that the de- only judge’s We hold case.) by publication notice this to allow ade- provide the class does not certifying prevent must alert class The court may There quate ruling. for her grounds huge case milking small counsel And dis- grounds. be such our extended fees, of an award such lest threat damages cussion of how distribute defendant, induce a such as fees small imply that Kore viust be meant towel, Kore, agreeing to throw in the know, it has liable in this case. For all we the class if favorable to even settlement good defenses. defendant an excellent defense. has AND REMANDED. REVERSED potential liability created “When very great, though even lawsuit will plaintiff succeed

probability

establishing slight, defen liability is pressure will be under settle rath

dant company, than to bet the even er America, UNITED STATES betting good.” odds are Kohen v. Plaintiff-Appellee, Pacific Co., Mgmt. Investment Cir.2009). WILLIAMS, Andre Defendant- statutory damages the maximum With Appellant. (and plaintiff per individual $1000 $100 No. 12-3864. class the actual share of each member number) likely their much less because of Appeals, Court of United States (the actu- and the ATM user fee maximum Circuit. Seventh transaction) $3, only cy damages per al April 2013. Argued remedy only may be one pres Sept. Decided sense, just though guess makes our early litigation. given stage Or- go action

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STADTMUELLER, Judge. District City of of March On to an Fitchburg police responded anonymous reporting 911 call *3 loudly and twenty-five acting individuals lot. displaying guns parking hand scene, arriving at the the officers Upon something a smaller observed different: individuals, ap- none group of of whom acting inappropriately. to be peared had approached group, this which officers slowly. appar- For no begun disperse reason, out singled one of the officers ent Williams, appellant, per- Andre began formed frisk. Mr. Williams escape, tried but resist frisk and Thereafter, restrained. ultimately body searched his and found both officers handgun ‘ecstasy’ Mr. pills. and several charged arrested and with Williams was being possession a felon in of a firearm. to suppress He moved the evidence seized him, ultimately judge from but the district Thereafter, his motion. denied pled guilty possession Williams felon, firearm as convicted but reserved At right appeal. sentencing, his judge sentencing two en- applied district hancements, significantly which increased applicable offense level and William’s advisory range imprisonment under the sentencing guidelines. Following sentenc- ing, appealed Mr. Williams conviction Rumbelow, M. Rita Office of the United court, arguing and sentence to this Madison, WI, Plain- Attorney, the evidence to obtain the conviction used tiff-Appellee. and, suppressed, in the should been Bierma, Linnen, L. K. Fed- Erika Julie alternative, judge the district erred in Services, Madison, WI, for eral Defender sentencing applying the enhancements. Defendant-Appellant. unlawful, find that the We search was

accordingly sup- the denial of his reverse HAMILTON, motion, judgment RIPPLE and vacate his pression Before conviction, STADTMUELLER, ad- Judges, and remand the matter for Circuit this Judge.* proceedings consistent with District ditional * the East- tion. The Honorable J.P. Stadtmueller of Wisconsin, designa- sitting by ern District of

opinion. we underly- Because reverse the approached group any- conviction, ing judgment way. we need not As approached, the group ap- sentencing reach the enhancement issue. parently began disperse, but no one

attempted to flee the scene. Each mem- Background I. group appeared ber of the to act in the manner, same avoiding eye On the of March contact 11:25 the officers and p.m., report walking slowly a woman called 911 to away the area. presence large of а group of individuals parking lot outside of a in Fitchburg, bar For reasons that entirely unclear Wisconsin. The woman provide refused to record, from the began the officers to per- name, explained her but that there were *4 pat-downs form on the members of the approximately twenty-five people, three or group. Jesberger Officer singled out Mr. four of “guns whom she had observed with Williams, in particular, and requested report any out.” She did not fighting or Mr. Williams step forward and display his behavior, threatening only instead inform- hands. At evidentiary the hearing on this ing the 911 dispatcher the issue, Jesberger Officer stated that he being loitering were loud while in the started to “zero in” on Mr. Williams “once Schneid’s, (to parking lot of a local bar Jesberger] [Officer way saw the [Mr. police apparently which the respond quite However, was acting.” Williams] violence, reports often due to gang ac- Jesberger provide any did not further de- tivity, drugs, weapons). what, tail precisely, piqued his interest receiving tip, As result of this Williams, in Mr. as opposed to the other dispatcher City sounded a tone at the While, group. members of the apparently, (“the Fitchburg Department’s Police De- Mr. making eye Williams was not contact partment”) headquarters indicating a with the officers and attеmpting was

weapons call. during That tone issued slowly scene, away move from the all of Department’s nightly briefing, and a num- the evidence indicates that every other immediately ber of officers up suited to member of group doing exactly was respond to the call. the same thing. The officers parking drove to Schneid’s Jesberger After Officer requested that lot, arriving three to five minutes after the forward, step Mr. Williams Mr. Williams call, and observed a much different scene ‘Why?,” asked but was compliant every reported by than that anonymous call- respect. other At Jesberger’s re- er. Instead of seeing group twenty- quest, stepped Mr. Williams out from his men, belligerent five the officers discover- cars, position between two showed his only eight ed standing to ten individuals hands, placed and then his hands on his group around a parking cars lot. head. At the time the approached officers group, the individuals were not loud or Officer Jesberger began pat then acting disruptively, otherwise nor were down Mr. point, Williams. At that Mr. fact, displaying their began firearms. Williams to move his hands toward officers, Ryan one of the Jesberger, testi- his Jesberger waist. Officer warned Mr. so, fied that he and the other officers from his Williams to do but Mr. Williams department were not even sure that this continued to move Accordingly, his hands. smaller was the Jesberger same one that had Officer attempted to handcuff reported by anonymous Williams, been away caller. Mr. who pulled instead that the final determination jected to the He did not the scene. to run from tried govern- suppressed; not be gun took him should very far before other get finding objected magistrate’s Mr. to the The officers held ment ground. down to the frisk unconstitutional. and directed that the ground to the Williams from underneath hands out pull he his objections pending were be- While (or him, perhaps did not but Mr. Williams Conley, Mr. Judge District fore William not) They then attempted comply. could agreement a plea entered into Williams him by striking with comply him to get agreed plead He government. worked, tasering him. This their knee and right appeal reserved his guilty, but finally able Jesberger and Officer gun that the judge district determined However, during handcuff Williams. suppressed. not be should his scuffle, injured officer this another eventually determined judge The district it in an unnatural he moved knee when suppressed, and should not be way. guilty. pro- The matter pled Mr. Williams detained, successfully Mr. Williams With probation sentencing. toward gressed pat-down search performed the officers presentence report, de- prepared officer handgun, person and recovered range of guideline termining Mr. William’ ecstasy pills, approximately several *5 forty- thirty-seven to be imprisonment They immediately placed in cash. $600.00 judge applied sentencing six months. under arrest. Mr. Williams enhancements, and ulti- sentencing two 18, 2012, Mr. Williams was April On sentence. mately imposed 70-month District of Wiscon- indicted in the Western appealed, arguing Mr. Williams sin, being a felon charged and failing erred in to exclude judge district firearm, in violation of 18 of a possession applying and in both of the the firearm § 922(g)(1). U.S.C. Because we sentencing enhancements. suppress gun He then moved failure to exclude the fire- agree that the during from him Officer Jesber- recovered error, we need not reach the arm was argued sup ger’s frisk. Mr. Williams sentencing issues. because the offi appropriate, was pression on did not have a reasonable cers II. Discussion investiga either their initial which to base judge that the district If we determine the frisk of Mr. tory stop perform or to firearm, suppressed the then should have Stephen Magistrate Judge Williams. judgment Mr. we must vacate Williams’ evidentiary hearing Crocker held In such a we need not conviction. later, after approximately motion one week sentencing enhancement issue. review he recommended that Mr. which time magis motion be denied. Williams’ upon which we grounds There are two that the frisk was judge suggested trate have been can find that should sufficiently was delib unconstitutional but First, if suppressed. we determine gun, of the require erate to exclusion Williams, when Officer stop initial logic of the of Her proposing an extension step him out from the Jesberger asked States, 185, 129 v. 555 U.S. ring United frisk, to a was unconsti- group and submit (2009), 172 L.Ed.2d S.Ct. tutional, determine that then we must also Terry stop. in a warrantless frisk occurrences, including the all of the later firearm, were recovery government frisk Both Mr. Williams unconstitutional, likely war- similarly ob- objected ruling. to that Mr. Williams Second, suppression. we were B. rant even Discussion stop per- that the initial determine mentioned, As we already there missible, must then we ask whether the junctures two at which we could find If we frisk itself was constitutional. find the search leading to the recovery of the not, recovery that it was then the later firearm to be unconstitutional: at the mo- unconstitutional, the firearm was also like- ment Williams that Mr. singled out ly warranting suppression of the firearm. or at stopped, the moment that Mr. follow, For the reasons we find that Williams was Slightly frisked. different unconstitutional, the frisk was and there- legal apply standards to each of those situ- fore hold that the district judge erred ations, so we address them separately. denying suppress. Mr. motion Williams’ See, Illinois, e.g., Ybarra Accordingly, we do not reach the sentenc- (1979) L.Ed.2d 238 ing enhancement issue. that, (pointing out even if an initial lawful, subsequent frisk must sepa- A. Standard of Review rately supported constitutional); to be judge’s We review the district denial of United v. McKoy, 428 F.3d motion, suppression Williams’ review (7th Cir.2005) (“It is insufficient that the ing error findings factual clear valid; stop itself is must sepa- there be a legal questions both conclusions and mixed analysis rate of whether the standard for of law and fact de novo. United States v. met.”). pat-frisks has been Freeman, (7th Cir.2012) Huebner, (citing United States v. Stop Initial (7th Cir.2004)); 812-13 United States Burnside, 516-17 portion my opinion, this *6 Cir.2009) v. (citing Mosby, United States Hamilton, disagree Judge with and find (7th 764, ‍‌​​​‌‌​​​​‌‌​‌​‌​​‌‌​‌​​​​​‌​​​​‌‌‌​‌‌‌​‌​‌​‌‌​​‍Cir.2008); 541 F.3d 767 United that the police stop officers’ initial Groves, (7th 506, v.

States 509 530 F.3d group of individuals was lawful. Cir.2008); McIntire, United States v. 516 576, (7th Cir.2008); F.3d 578-79 United may suspect Police officers detain a Fiasche, 694, (7th v. States 520 F.3d 697 stop for a brief if investigatory they have a Cir.2008)). suspicion “reasonable based articulable upon this we are called to facts that a crime is to about be or has

In Carlisle, examine the legal district court’s determi been committed.” 614 at F.3d Wimbush, that Jesberger’s stop (citing nation and 754-55 United States v. 947, (7th Cir.2003)); frisk Mr. Terry Williams was constitutional. 337 F.3d 949 v. Ohio, 1, parties disagree 21, 1868, do over factu 392 S.Ct. 20 U.S. 88 rеcord, (1968). al as set forth judge. requires the district L.Ed.2d This “more 889 Rather, their dispute solely is over the than a hunch than probable but less Anders, application 818, the relevant law those cause.” v. 521 Jewett F.3d (7th Cir.2008) our Accordingly, facts. review of the dis 823 Illinois v. (citing Ward low, 119, judge’s 123, 673, trict stop determination on the and 528 120 S.Ct. 145 U.S. (2000); particularly frisk must be de be L.Ed.2d 570 United States v. Le novo— “ (7th Cir.2003)). issue,” noir, 725, happened’ cause ‘what is in not an 318 729 To F.3d Carlisle, this case. States v. 614 find that United reasonable existed (7th Cir.2010) 750, (citing justify stop, 754 Burn as must examine Court 516). side, totality 588 F.3d at of the circumstances in the 684 use the report, may hand, emergency of the light at in individual

situation itself, justify Terry stop, pro- a experience, report, training own officers’ ongoing it finds “the an stop report that describes uphold the vided that should ‘particularized crimi- detaining general officer as emergency, opposed ha[d] legal wrong suspecting Hicks, objective basis’ for at 558-59 nality. 531 F.3d See Arvizu, J.L., v. 534 U.S. doing.” United States 529 U.S. (distinguishing Florida v. 744, 266, 273, 151 L.Ed.2d 740 122 266, 1375, S.Ct. 268, 254 120 146 L.Ed.2d S.Ct. Cortez, (2002) v. 449 (citing United (2000) report that in Hicks on the basis 690, 411, 66 417-18, 101 S.Ct. L.Ed.2d U.S. emergency of an provided ongoing details States, (1981); Ornelas United situation, tip reported in whereas J.L. 134 L.Ed.2d U.S. Hicks, we only general criminality). (1996)). report- call found an individual’s 911 guy beating a woman ing that “There’s what, ask question first I must house,” emergency report in was an up my Jesberger upon relied precisely, Officеr Hicks, stop. justifying Terry deciding to Mr. Williams. The Gov- stop Here, argu- was 911 call to the points, exclusively, almost ernment an itself, ably specific reporting call, arguing more anonymous 911 even emergency can The caller stated emergency report, an which situation. call was large support officer’s there 3-4) (R. 41, objective being waving guns less evidence corroborate loud and with Hicks, report. See States v. in a at which violent crime United location Cir.2008) (citing An drug activity regularly reported.1 559-60 White, Alabama would cer- responding officer that scene (1990); 110 L.Ed.2d 301 New tainly justified believing S.Ct. that a vola- Quarles, underway, York v. emergency tile situation was (1984)). However, in 81 L.Ed.2d nearby group members of a stopping also mentions passing, government upon arrival at the scene. individuals stop high- this occurred at in a Therefore, sup- I find that call the 911 crime area. suspicion that a crime ported a reasonable committed, or about progress to be facts, conjunction

Do those taken in permissible Teiry stop. making another, finding support one *7 See, id.; Terry, 392 at 88 e.g., U.S. Jesberger suspicion had a reasonable to S.Ct. 1868. Yes, very this but is a stop Williams? call.

close Moreover, changed that conclusion is not (and by made call, the fact that the 911 call was despite The 911 in and of itself argues that anonymously. Mr. Williams anonymous), provided Officer Jes- being not a reasonable support a the 911 call could berger with reasonable J.L., suspicion, it was made responding to an under because Mr. Williams. When Indeed, very acting egre- large group a of who were this is much more situation gious presented in J.L. In that reported than J.L. a situ- loud. Whereas the caller Supreme tip reporting a Court examined merely pos- ation in which individual J.L., possession of a firearm. 529 the mere sessing gun public, in this case the caller 273-74, Here, S.Ct. 1375. on the U.S. 120 reported dangerous situation the much more hand, reported far other the caller more: that displaying guns in a multiple of individuals guns being openly displayed were in a bar may construed as situation that been lot, parking police frequently report- to which fight. gang response activity, by ed in to crime and

685 anonymously. That is incorrect. The conduct Terry stop; again, he is incor- fact that anonymous rect, mere the caller was though this is a much closer question. enough, under J.L. make the 911 points out, As Mr. Williams the 911 caller Hicks, call per se unreliable. 531 F.3d at reported that there was a group of 25 or Brown, (citing 558-59 United States v. 496 more individuals the parking lot being (10th Cir.2007); F.3d 1077 United very arrived, loud. When the officers only (4th Elstоn, v. 479 F.3d 319 eight to ten remained, individuals ap- Cir.2007); Drake, United States v. 456 parently none of them acting were in a (7th Cir.2006); F.3d 775 United States loud threatening manner. IBut find Terry-Crespo, 356 F.3d 1176 that those facts are not enough strip Cir.2004); Anthony York, City New of report of either its credibility or of its (2d 129, 136-37 Cir.2003); 339 F.3d United emergency nature. Holloway, States v. 290 F.3d 1338-39 This does not undermine the report’s (11th Cir.2002); United States v. Valen credibility. issue, As to that I again look tine, (3d Cir.2000)); see Hicks, which noted that “a lower level of Wooden, also United States v. required corroboration is before conduct- (“Doubtless greater confidence can be ing a stop on the basis of an emergency achieved when know caller’s iden report.” Quarles, 531 F.3d at (citing ... tity yet, practical as a matter a name 2626). Thus, here, given by a caller does not make a tip any where the caller anonymous, remained but anonymous less ... it would undermine provided very specific details about goal system the 911 require location and of group men, activities prove identity.”). caller to long So as believe that low level of corroboration is reported the call an ongoing emergency, satisfied. Additionally, while group may Hicks, J.L. distinguished. smaller, by approximately one-half to (“Every 558-59 circuit to consider two-thirds, upon the arrival police, question distinguished has J.L. when fact should not undermine the credibility tip is not one general criminality, of the call. The officers arrived within ongoing but of an emergency very ... or minutes, three to five which is more than Here, recent activity.”) criminal where enough time for participants some to have provided the caller also information re (especially left if frightened were garding how she obtained the information situation) an escalating violent but not like- on which she based her report, I find it ly enough time for an entire group of 25 appropriate to hold that Officer Jesberger people to have left replaced and been by a had a stop. for the eight new to ten. Accordingly, I Wooden, (“The 551 F.3d at 649 caller in find that the low threshold of corrobora- this case told us how he knew that Wooden required rely tion emergency on an call ... had [c]orroboration of other was satisfied. information would not make this claim *8 plausible.”). more Relatedly, the fact that the officers Mr. found a much smaller group Williams also asserts that of men who the changed acting were not loudly brandishing circumstances between the time report weapons, the 911 and did not suddenly strip report the officers’ arrival the on the emergency Wooden, scene undermined of its credibility thе nature. emergency and report, nature of that thus instructive. that an depriving ability it of its provide anonymous provided Officer caller a description of Jesberger with a suspicion individual, reasonable who he said had drawn a Ybarra, 338; during e.g., 444 U.S. at 100 S.Ct. fight a from his holster

weapon McKoy, separate at This responded Police 39. girlfriend. Id. with his necessary public the the reported protect a near standard is couple found and frisks, scene, longer arguing. Id. which are “a serious intrusion were no who circumstances, we sanctity person, may in of the which Despite change upon the of the armed upheld stop indignity strong inflict arouse great nonetheless Id., same Teny, at 649-50. The at individual. resentment.” 392 U.S. Any in change Thus, the here. given case more burden- should S.Ct. 1868. present and their frisk, the number action some such intrusion very have been attribut- activity could well the officer only should be allowed when and the to the arrival of able point can facts that would to articulable call and officers’ time between the condi- separate specific establish the change That from volatile to sta- arrival. weapon or tion the detainee has a ble, quickly, not happened very was which poses danger. 88 S.Ct. some Id. Indeed, in a permanent. to be guaranteed words, perform- 1868. In other an officer guns which previously-volatile situation ing stop may automatically Terry can recently reported, officers have been subject frisk to the stop; the individual should) (and with a likely proceed reason- so, rather, to do the officer must have may out suspicion that violence break able subject some articulable Moreover, the situ- again in a short time. dangerous.” is “armed and Arizona v. drastically that changed had not so ation Johnson, 129 S.Ct. officers should have assumed that the (2009); 172 L.Ed.2d 694 United States v. entirely potential passed had emergency (2001) Pedroza, ‍‌​​​‌‌​​​​‌‌​‌​‌​​‌‌​‌​​​​​‌​​​​‌‌‌​‌‌‌​‌​‌​‌‌​​‍(citing Eight possibility of return. to ten without 1868). Terry, 392 U.S. at 88 S.Ct. This parking still in a lot individuals remained analysis, specific requiring more the officer previous vio- known for occurrence a reasonable hold activity. sup- criminal This fact lent and subject dangerous” op- “armed and as threat of re- ported belief that the posed being generally suspicious, allows continued, ported emergency even after distinguish legitimate courts to between officers arrived at the scene discover- frisks, latter of which illegitimate initially than was ed a different situation upon individu- constitute severe intrusions reported. liberty. Terry, al 1868.

For these reasons find Jesberger’s stop sup- was of Williams Again, begin analysis by our examin- we suspicion. ported Accord- ing the circumstances that Officer Jesber- properly the district court found that ingly, ger deciding relied may upon permissible. government frisk Mr. Williams. The as- supported following serts that facts Subsequent Frisk Jesberger’s to frisk Mr. decision Judge agree, Both Hamilton and I group, gen- the fact that Williams: hand, the other that the district court’s eral, eye contact the officers avoided on the frisk issue in error. decision away to move from the area started arrival; upon the fact that Mr. analyze

A court must the officers’ reviewing Williams, stop, particular, his hands in separately apply from an initial had frisk *9 waistband, his pocket or near avoided ing slightly a different standard to deter See, eye contact, began away from lawful. to move mine whether the frisk was area; 325, the fact that this all occurred 342 n. 110 S.Ct. 108 L.Ed.2d area; high a crime (1990) and the fact that the (applying Terry’s principles to police responding were to a 911 call re- house). protective sweep fact, of a In even porting weapons. police when have a warrant to search the area, premises of an they must have facts, sepa-

None together, of those alone or rate, particularized cause to could have sеarch the supported suspi reasonable cion that Mr. who are coincidentally Williams was armed and therein. Illinois, dangerous. begin, To Court cannot Ybarra v. 444 U.S. at see how group’s general behavior 338. Just as patron “[e]ach who walked possibly support could suspi into the” premises searched in Ybarra was Williams, himself, that Mr. cion was armed “clothed with protection constitutional Moreover, dangerous. neither against an unreasonable search an sei- group behavior nor Mr. per Williams’ own zure,” so was Mr. Williams when he stood sonal behavior support could a reasonable parking lot on the in question. suspicion that danger he was armed and Thus, here, Id. where the officers knew of people, ous. Most when confronted high area, crime nature of the but had officer, nervous, likely to act reasonable, no other basis for individual- contact, eye avoid potentially even ized suspicion Williams, of Mr. the frisk shift their bodies as if to away move inappropriate. was still area, making thus such behaviors of Finally, while officers were responding very import little to reasonable call, weapons to a that fact give could not See, e.g., determination. United States v. rise to a (7th reasonable belief Broomfield, 417 F.3d Cir.

2005) Williаms, personally, was armed and dan- (noting importance eye con gerous. purely subjective By arrived, tact is the time easily the officers skewed by police support officers to their view of a situation looked much different than situation); United States v. Simpson, 609 had been reported during the 911 call. (10th Cir.2010); F.3d United Considerably fewer people present, were Urrieta, (6th States v. 520 F.3d and the present individuals who were were Cir.2008); 40; McKoy, 428 United acting loudly displaying weap- their Portillo-Aguirre, States v. 311 F.3d Thus, arrival, upon ons. their the officers (5th Cir.2002); 656 n. 49 United practically had no reason to believe that Jones, Cir.2001); any of the remaining individuals were Richardson, and United States v. Indeed, dangerous. armed and the indi- (6th Cir.2004). 625, 630-31 viduals with guns may have been among the 15 to 20 individuals who had left the Additionally, while we understand group between the time of the call and the the fact that a high- occurs Moreover, officers’ arrival. the 911 caller may crime area Terry, factor under provide any did not information that would we believe that the rest of the case for a have identified Mr. Williams as one of the frisk, here, was so weak that this factor individuals in possession weapon. of a cannot save the frisk. in high “Even sum, areas, vague, the 911 call was crime circumstances possibility any where the given changed, had and therefore we individual is armed is cannot en- significant, reasonable, Terry requires vision that the call support individualized a reasonable weapons before a frisk for belief Mr. can be Williams was armed and dan- Buie, conducted.” Maryland v. gerous. *10 nearby began in Cadillac. Id. Patton to back one of those facts taking every

Even another, away group, stepping from the backwards must one we conjunction with five and feet onto by approximately fifteen sup- that, they do not together, conclude previ- the lawn behind the sidewalk he had that Mr. Williams a reasonable belief port Id., At an ously standing been on. at 736. dangerous. govern- The armed and was evidentiary hearing, arresting officer required that Jes- to show Officer ment suspect away that stated when backs supported by frisk articulable berger’s was manner, that typically that it means that specifically facts that could establish subject or is to an individual has a dangerous. armed was Mr. Williams outstanding Id. was warrant. The officer facts, here, general, much more are eventually bring Mr. toward able to Patton practically any applied could Cadillac, Mr. Patton where he frisked that the area had been around person a firearm. The district and discovered Id. night. that up the officers shоwed when permissible held that the frisk was court Indeed, support similar facts could But, a number and we affirmed. there are anyone happens practically who search factors in case. To distinguishing that area when high-crime to be near Patton, begin, part the defendant was very That is evil are called. police law, that group openly violating was Terry court was concerned with that he, himself, did have a beer even unleashing, Terry reason and the hand, Here, his hand. on the nei- other ability restrained the to frisk. See court Mr. Williams nor as a ther 17-18, 1868. Terry, 392 U.S. 88 S.Ct. — n way acting illegally any was whole Accordingly, obliged conclude we indeed, they bellig- even were not loud or Jesberger’s of Mr. that Officer frisk when erent arrived. Additional- Williams was unconstitutional.2 that was ly, Mr. Patton exhibited behavior argues The Government that our recent concerning much more than apparent Patton, in United States v. decision behavior, Patton Mr. Williams’ here. Mr. (7th Cir.2013), oppo- compels by being up backed at least five feet after conclusion, disagree. we Patton is site but step forward, sidewalk leaving told In that re- distinguishable. it; here, moving lawn onto the behind eight to a of seven men sponded report hand, Jesberger the other re- Officer Id., drinking public alcohol on a sidewalk. (as only Mr. well as ported Williams came at a.m. from report at 735. 1:30 group) the rest of the to move seemed high-crime neighborhood, where there nervously. away and act Jesber- shootings. had been recent Id. When ger identify any specific did not movement scene, arrived on the the officers saw sev- him act Mr. Williams that caused cans, open eral men with beer but Mr. concern, pointed general but rather to a Patton, himself, did not a beer can. move- sense nervousness backward men, ment, Id. The officers all of the all of instructed which occurred before Patton, including Mr. toward a asked to forward. step step Williams was Certainly, Jesberger suspi 2. it must be noted that Mr. had some reasonable attempts frisk and dan Williams resisted officers' cion Mr. Williams armed fact, Odum, See, disregard gerous. e.g., him. But we must be United States v. (7th Cir.1995); Michigan noncompliance only after F.3d Chesternut, cause occurred began. analysis, purposes the frisk For of our (1988); Jesberger Terry, U.S. at we must look to what Officer knew 100 L.Ed.2d 565 not, began He did and therefore at the moment he to frisk Mr. Williams. if, permissible only point, The frisk is at that his frisk Mr. Williams unconstitutional.

689 But, more fact, generally compliant can often be under Mr. Williams comfortable. view, until the if of the officers’ commands the dissent’s Mr. had with all Williams not simply decided to avail that began, nothing and did whatsoever himself of frisk comfort, he would not have subject been singled out from that would himself this, a frisk. we On should note that we of the There- group. the other members that pocketed do not believe are hands fore, distinguish- believe that Patton is we entirely nor do irrelevant we create a cate- in apply does not this case. able and Indeed, gorical finding rule them so. if note, here, that all important It is pocketed one’s in hands an awkward reject panel members of this the three way if it or seems that the individual view that were Government’s the officers holding a larger-than-average item in his every person present entitled frisk pocket, her those facts lead a could certainly It is clear that the scene. reasonable officer to believe that a requisite suspi- the lacked individualized therein, was contained support a frisk. Nonetheless, do so. eviden- cion to at the But, simple act holding the hands one’s that, hearing it when tiary became clear search, in grounds should not be for a even scene, they the officers arrived on the each night at in high-crime it occurs area. a separate member or members of stopped support a seemingly We cannot rule that (“Other See R. at group. 19-22 would those people typically allow who were and con- arriving on scene (read: spend in “low crime” time areas subjects that tacting various within town) more affluent areas of walk deem attempting obviously pocketed hands around with at while safe.”). Thus, Jesberger scene Officer subject search, being depriv- not while likely stopped would have and frisked Mr. higher in ing people crime of that areas regardless placement of the of his Williams same ability. placed The fact of had hands. where he reason simply his hands was convenient Herring 3. v. United States so, doing afterwards. question final we ask is must Nonetheless, fact, even taken single Jesberger’s whether frisk Mr. Officer conjunction in with all of other facts so deliberate that exclu Williams was frisk, surrounding not sup- still does sionary apply. Herring should v. rule suspicion. begin, port a To States, 135, 129 555 United U.S. S.Ct. immediately his hands Williams removed (2009); 172 496 see also L.Ed.2d Hudson pockets Jesberger’s his from 586, 591, 547 Michigan, U.S. request. only It was after Mr. Williams (2006) (exclusion 56 is a 165 L.Ed.2d had removed his hands that Officer Jes- resort, not our first impulse”); “last Unit decided to frisk him. Further- berger Leon, 104 ed States v. U.S. more, simple fact that one’s hands are (1984); S.Ct. 82 L.Ed.2d 677 Illinois pockets in one’s is of a similar nature to Gates, U.S. S.Ct. avoiding eye (1983). In other one’s contact. In Herring, 76 L.Ed.2d words, it is of little If were to value. one Supreme noted courts should Court any given street, likely drive down it evidence not exclude unless the actions that an uncountable number citizens question “sufficiently deliberate were pockets. have their hands in their meaningfully would deter” exclusion can similar future, change high neigh- This crime and that actions does actions deter “sufficiently culpable Certain their that such prefer borhoods. were judi- pocketed why price paid by to be not? It rence is worth hands —and Jesberger toward walked system.” Herring, cial fact, below, pocketed. hands Mr. Williams judge, magistrate 695. The away kind the area.” “tried to of walk recommending upon this rule relied Second, Judge Ripple asks for sup- R. not have been the firearm should *12 rule, more wondering more concrete what appro- we it pressed, and therefore think subject can must “do before officer issue. priate to address the Dissenting protective frisk?” conduct here, action, Jesberger’s Officer any new Op. at 698. But we do not believe culpable and to an extent both deliberate Indeed, necessary. rule concrete is Herring. suppression that warrants under police rule remains the same: officer above, Jesberger had As we stated Officer suspicion that must reasonable to that Mr. suspect little articulable reason dangerous. That subject is armed and dangerous. armed and Williams was simply pres- reasonable fact, the he did articulate could reasons ent, here. pretext prac- have been used as to search reasons, all of hold that For these we tically any who was the scene person near lacked a sus- Jesberger Officer reasonable appar- arrest. no on the of the For to conduct a frisk of Mr. picion Williams reason, singled out Jesberger ent Officer in Mr. began, the time the frisk violation of Williams, proceeded Mr. to search rights. Fourth Amendment Ac- Williams’ entirely him. It is unclear the record from cordingly, we must Reveese the denial of what, precisely, Mr. set off about Williams suppress, Mr. Williams’ motion be Jesberger’s sense that he should Vacate conviction, judgment his But, reaching conclusion searched. our Remand this matter with instructions the district hope in this that other officers we judge grant suppression his motion and engaging from in the arbi- will deterred proceedings for additional consistent with random, trary, almost search of individuals stated, already this decision. As because near of a happen who to be the scene we determine that Mr. Williams’ conviction Therefore, case suppressiоn crime. this vacated, must be we do not reach the appropriate Herring. is under sentencing parties. raised issues

III. Conclusion HAMILTON, Judge, concurring Circuit Last, appropriate we it address feel judgment. part concurring points in the dis- several additional raised join portions Judge I Stadtmuel- First, Judge Ripple sent. overstates the opinion holding ler’s ‍‌​​​‌‌​​​​‌‌​‌​‌​​‌‌​‌​​​​​‌​​​​‌‌‌​‌‌‌​‌​‌​‌‌​​‍frisk of de- “approached” fact that Mr. Williams Offi- his fendant Williams violated constitutional pock- his Jesberger cer hands in his is rights good-faith exception that no Op. at Dissenting ets. 696. While rule. exclusionary available avoid the true,

may, it clari- technically, be should be join therefore in the to re- judgment also approached fied that Mr. Williams verse the of the court judgment district im- Jesberger request at the officer’s and to for further proceedings. remand mediately from his removed hands request. join portion opinion This sort I do not of the pockets the officer’s II-B-1) (Part compliant makings holding offi- behavior is not the lawfully carry Terry stop could out person that a cers Moreover, portion opin- armed and this is a Mr. That dangerous. of Williams. necessary picture painted actually judg- much ion is not to the different than ment, one, by Judge Ripple: question never and the a close Williams especially as state law and federal Fitchburg consti Police Department, six or seven officers, evolving provide tutional law have been headquarters was at for the night- expanded protection for posses ly briefing. individual responded im- AH public. sion of firearms in mediately. See Rabin v. minutes, Within five they ar- (7th Cir.2013) Flynn, 725 F.3d 637-41 rived outside the bar with “guns their own (Rovner, J., concurring); Moore v. Madi out.” The officers found eight to ten peo- (7th Cir.2012) gan, 702 F.3d ple remaining outside the bar. But by the (striking prohibiting down Illinois law most arrival, time of the officers’ no guns were carrying visible, firearms in public), anyone nor was in the remaining denied, reh’g en banc 708 F.3d 901 group acting in a suspicious way that offi- Cir.2013); Hamdan, State v. 264 Wis.2d cers could later identify at the suppression *13 433, 785, (2003) (re 665 N.W.2d 811-12 hearing, except that the people did not versing carrying conviction for eye concealed make contact with they officers and weapon; store owner carried began concealed slowly away walk from each oth- weapon security his store for his in high Wardlow, er. Cf. Illinois v. 528 U.S. essence, neighborhood). 124-25, crime In pub as 120 S.Ct. 145 L.Ed.2d 570 (2000) possession display lic of firearms be (subject’s unprovoked flight from circumstances, come lawful under police more arriving in high-crime sup- area Fourth Amendment jurisprudence po ported Terry stop). police practices lice must adapt.1 They moved in. stopped and started to everyone scene, frisk on the including Terry A stop requires suspi- Williams. cion that subject the individual has com-

mitted or is about to commit a crime. Did the have reasonable suspicion Ohio, 1, 22-23, Terry v. 392 U.S. 88 S.Ct. to justify Terry stop everyone, of or of (1968); 20 L.Ed.2d 889 see also particular? it, Williams in I doubt but the Place, 696, 702, United States v. 462 U.S. question is enough close the better (1983). 103 S.Ct. 77 L.Ed.2d 110 To course would be to bypass question focus on the facts of this and reverse because the frisk of Williams reported caller here three or justified, four was not Judge as Stadtmueller people in group approximately of twenty- explained. has “guns five had out” outside a troublesome by Let’s start asking what crime was bar. When operator, asked the 911 she suspected or govern- feared here? The said fighting, were not taunting, or ment specify, does not but the best candi- threatening each other. She also said she date for an actual disorderly crime is anyone did not see pointing guns any- conduct, or with without Wisconsin’s en- one else. disorderly hancement for conduct with a When the 911 call came in shortly dangerous after weapon. See Wis. St. p.m., 947.01(1) 11:00 § the entire conduct); shift of the (disorderly § 939.63 To describe federal City Chicago, - U.S. -, constitutional law as 130 S.Ct. “evolving” (2010), days. to use loaded term these reinterpreted 177 L.Ed.2d 894 doubt, though, There can be little protect powers that District amendment intended to Heller, Columbia v. 554 U.S. applicable against States and made it States. of 2783, (2008), See, Cruikshank, L.Ed.2d e.g., overturned the United States v. (Second (1875) established federal constitutional understand 23 L.Ed. 588 ing pro that the Second applied only Congress; Amendment did not Amendment right indepen vide an individual protect bear arms remained right free to restrict or militia, dent of a State police powers). or that McDonald v. to bear arms under their boisterous, unreasonably (enhanced committing profane, loud penalties dangerous weap- under disorderly or otherwise conduct while armed with crimes on). statute out- disorderly in which the conduct conduct circumstances indecent, “violent, abusive, profane, provoke laws cause or a disturbance tends to boisterous, or unreasonably loud other- B guilty of a Class misdemeanor. disorderly under circum- conduct wise (2010). § Wis. 947.01 as Stat. conduct tends to in which the stances part comprehensive rewrite of firearm disturbance,” provoke a but cause or laws added the follow- in Act Wisconsin dis- qualification and important a new ing disorderly to the conduct paragraph below. cussed protect rights possess statute guns, there the mention of Without carry openly public: firearms talking just gathering (2) other circum- facts and Unless bar, my loudly colleagues’ outside a so indicate a criminal or malicious stances authority Terry about for a conclusion apply, part person intent on the signifi- here stands or falls of, person may is not violation report three of the 911 caller’s cance of, charged with a violation this sec- “guns out.”2 From four individuals had or loading, carrying, going tion for *14 call, guns it’s that the the 911 clear visible firearm, regard without armed with They gave the also the frightened caller. con- whether the firearm is loaded or is cautious, good to be officers reason police openly cealed or carried. necessarily enough justi- is not but that 947.01(2)(2012). § Wis. Stat. Terry stop. intrusion Even fy the of frisk, alone, re- Terry stop without still The makes it new Wisconsin statute objective quires “particularized basis persons clear the the scene could suspecting particular person the for disorderly not arrested for con- have been activity.” of stopped criminal United displaying guns, duct for there was no for Cortez, 411, 417-18, 449 U.S.

States “criminal or malicious intent.” indication of (1981). 690, 66 S.Ct. L.Ed.2d 621 first people The 911 caller said that several they disorderly con- had оut” and later that were qualification “guns The about guns a new law. but not “waving” threatening duct is based on Wisconsin the anyone. guns disturbing incident occurred on March may here Visible earlier, Some months Wisconsin had nearby, point 2012. those but that’s the the disorderly its conduct statute to Merely amended statute. possessing new Wisconsin possess civilians’ even protect rights or without criminal or displaying public display places. law, loaded firearms the intent does not violate malicious disorderly July the conduct Before fright- or display disturbing even if the provided: had statute ening stop A does Terry to others. not arrest, Whoever, require probable cause for an public private place, in a or abusive, indecent, violent, course, requires sus- engages but it still reasonable original twenty-five support group remaining the The facts here do not the conclu- or police responding to an eight any sion were group of to ten—or individual with- ordinary disorderly They call. conduct were "unreasonably group loud” or the guns, responding to a call about and the "boisterous,” possibly triggering the disorder- guns were the the situation was treat- reason ly considering without wheth- conduct statute emergency calling ed as an entire shift group were er not individuals also argue respоnd. government does not armed. outside bar—either genuinely authorized, criminal conduct. picion stop is subject stop law, Based on the new Wisconsin that is is not free to away. walk The officer is hard to find on this record. authorized to use reasonable force to re- quire subject to submit to stop. questioning authority for a Terry Place, 2637; U.S. at 103 S.Ct. here, I stop suggest do mean to Williams, Adams v. police could not or should not have (1972); 32 L.Ed.2d 612 4 La- responded to the 911 call. The caller re- Fave, 9.2(d), Search and § Seizure at 413. ported might what have been a dangerous guns mixture of alcohol and night late at What was it about this situation that outside a bar known police to the as a could lead us to conclude that it was rea- trouble spot. recognize that the blend of sonable to Mr. Williams from simply firearms and alcohol late at could walking away from the officers? There dangerous have become criminal was no individualized concerning and/or split-second. within a It was appropriate him. And the entire group, which had respond to the 911 call with a strong dwindled twenty-five from about to eight police presence, and visible one that in- or ten people, peaceful and, for all the talking knew, volved on the scene law-abiding. There was when аrrived. Such nothing actions do suspicious like the casing of a not raise Fourth Amendment issues and store provided window that may a great prevent do deal to trouble. in Terry. Nor any was there 1, 5-6, See Florida v. Rodriguez, 469 U.S. conduct like that in the principal cases (1984) (initial 83 L.Ed.2d 165 upon by relied my colleagues. In United Hicks, contact when officers asked civilian he ‍‌​​​‌‌​​​​‌‌​‌​‌​​‌‌​‌​​​​​‌​​​​‌‌‌​‌‌‌​‌​‌​‌‌​​‍step would Cir.2008), aside and talk with them was the emergency caller reported, *15 “the sort of consensual im- encounter that a guy beating “There’s up my woman in plicates interest”), house,” no Fourth Amendment and that the man pistol had a and Mendenhall, citing United States v. 446 threatening was to shoot the woman. 544, 554, 100 U.S. S.Ct. 64 L.Ed.2d report That was a of a crime and a real (1980) Stewart, J.), 497 (opinion of emergency. and nothing There was compara- Royer, reported U.S. 103 ble here. Or Florida in United States v. (1983) Wooden, 75 L.Ed.2d (plurali- Cir.2008), LaFave, ty); Wayne B. Search and Sei- the 911 call said that an man armed was (5th ed.2012). 9.4, fact, § zure at 560 arguing girlfriend, with had a in a that presence holster, visible the sort police pulled gun. and had out the That is. for, response the 911 caller asked not the was not as volatile as report in Hicks much more aggressive response that oc- but still closer was to criminal conduct curred. than reported was here.

Going beyond strong and police visible disorderly amended Wisconsin con- presence, however, Terry stops, is a duct requires statute some indication of significant step important with conse- criminal or malicious per- before a intent quences. say Terry When courts that a possession son’s of a public, firearm in authorized, authorizing visible, whether concealed or can contrib- Terry what recognized itself is a Moreover, “seizure” ute to a violation. we have held of the person that could involve substantial that the Second Amendment includes at infringement personal liberty. 392 right carry least some individual a gun 16-17, Terry S.Ct. 1868. When in public, subject to a. restrictions that re- Moore, right to bear arms for black in 702 individual tested court.

main be McDonald, ra- defending After Heller and in themselves from at 942. citizens enforcement, whites). in in- cially-motivated by us law all of involved violence defense attor- cluding prosecutors, judges, reasons, only part For these I concur in officers, will need to re- neys, police and opinion in the Judge Stadtmueller’s and these thinking about Fourth evaluate our judgment to and the case. reverse remand private pos- how Amendment issues our figures into think- session firearms RIPPLE, Judge, concurring Circuit (Rov- Rabin, at 636-37 See ing. part part. dissenting ner, J., private that cоncurring) (noting I agree Judge Stadtmueller may carrying be citizens Illinois soon Jesberger’s stop of Mr. Williams in more inves- public, resulting firearms that, It justified. is clear in order to define and tigatory stops and need perform “stop,” a constitutional circum- As we work respect stops). limits for such “reasonably to stances must lead an officer case way through our those issues light experience conclude in of his recognize genuine safety also we need activity may Terry criminal afoot.” citizens, as police concerns of Ohio, as the for intentional or un- potential well (1968). L.Ed.2d 889 As one commentator on neigh- intentional based discrimination noted, has ‘criminal “reference when borhood, race, class, ethnicity. activity may strongly suggests be afoot’ years ago, Five or I would have had six that though may the arrest standard some- my agreeing colleagues little "with trouble require guilt probable times be more a potential that the here faced emer not, than this is never the as to a case justified. Terry stop gency very stopping investigation, where the Heller, McDonald, But the combination purpose clarify is to situa- ambiguous Constitution, and Moore under the federal al., Wayne tion.” R. et LaFave Criminal laws, including the 2011 Wisconsin’s 3.8(d) (5th (footnote ed.2009), § Procedurе disorderly amendment to its conduct stat omitted). although an offi- Consequently, I, adoption ute and of Article section 25 of discovered, may upon investiga- cer have Constitution, together its convince me that tion, reported display weapons quite the calculus is now different. intent, was without criminal or malicious *16 these in law changes no doubt that the Op. see 4 Judge (quoting Hamilton’s at police make the of more diffi work 947.01(2)), weap- § Wis. Stat. fact that dangerous. cult and I also fear that more (1) ons being by were brandished individu- human to responses and institutional those (2) als, of part who were a boisterous of dangers may profiling increase the risk (3) bar, twenty-five, of crowd outside of dress, class, race, ethnicity, based or (4) previously had been as which identified neighborhood. The new constitutional and (5) location, late high-crime night, at statutory for to bear rights individuals (6) passers- in such manner as cause public apply at in arms home and to all. by to leave area and contact authori- protect The an obligation courts have ties, police investigation. pro- justified No rights neighbor those in bad set in the tections for owners forth good hoods as well as ones. See Mc — U.S. -, negate v. Wisconsin Statutes the constitu- City Donald Chicago, of police of tо look 3020, 3087-88, salutary tional and efforts 130 S.Ct. 177 L.Ed.2d 894 (2010) (Thomas, J., weapons into be- judg possibility in the were concurring ment) argument or to (explaining importance ing historical of used to escalate an

695 intimidation, being necessary quantum or engender proof were of to estab- recklessly by individu waived intoxicated lish reasonable considerably “is endanger a way might proof less than of wrongdoing by als a prepon- circum any The fact that of the public. derance of the evidence.” v. United States Sokolow, 1, 7, “may described stances caller 490 U.S. 109 S.Ct. 104 (1989). independently susceptible to innocent been L.Ed.2d 1 “[T]he reasonable sus- does not collective explanation negate picion objective one,” their standard is an which [Jesberger’s] officer, contribution rea asks “whether a police reasonable totality of sonable under the faced confronting with the circumstances ease], circumstances.” United v. Rich [the officer in the would believe that (7th Cir.2011). mond, suspect] posed a danger [the those vicinity.” the immediate United States however, I my colleagues, believe Unlike Patton, Cir.2013) performed by that the frisk Jesber- (citing Terry, 392 U.S. at 88 S.Ct. supported by also was ger reasonable sus- 1868). Thus, whether an officer has rea- picion. respectfully therefore dissent. sonable suspicion totality “turns on the of confronting circumstances officer.” A. Id. Supreme The Court in Terry, “the need The Court recognized Supreme explained has of the protect totality

for law enforcement officers requires circumstances themselves and other account” prospective “tak[ing] victims into “the whole picture.” Cortez, they may of violence situations where United States Thus, (1981). lack cause for an probable arrest.” L.Ed.2d 621 justified an officer Court believing “[w]hen elaborated: the individual suspicious whose behav- upon [T]he assessment must be based investigating range ior he is at close all the circumstances. The analysis pro- presently to the offi- dangerous armed objective ceeds with various observa- others,” or to permitted cer he is take tions, reports, information steps safety to assure available, such are consideration and others. himself Id. This includes con- patterns operation the modes ducting “a weapons.” reasonable search for certain kinds of lawbreakers. From Id. S.Ct. 1868. data, these a trained draws officer infer- ences and makes

However, once an lawfully officer has deductions —infer- might ences and deductions that well suspect, stopped automatiсally he is not person. elude untrained pat-down to conduct protective entitled or frisk. must be a anal separate process “[T]here does not deal with hard certainties, ysis pat-frisks whether probabilities. Long the standard for but with *17 has met.” v. McKoy, probabilities been United States before the law of was artic- 38, (1st Cir.2005); such, F.3d 39 see practical people 428 also ulated as formu- Brown, 860, v. United States 188 864 common F.3d lated certain sense conclusions (7th Cir.1999). behavior; jurors “The officer need not be about human as factfin- absolutely certain that permitted the individual is ders are to do the same—and armed”; rather he must have a reasonable so are enforcement officers. Final- law “safety that of suspicion ly, or that others the thus collected be evidence must danger.” Terry, weighed library 392 at 88 not in [i]s U.S. seen and terms of scholars, 1868. The explained analysis by S.Ct. Court has that but as understood 696 at- eye contact with the and in the field of law en- make

by versed those move tempted away the scene forcement. upon the officers’ arrival. added). (emphasis Id. at 101 S.Ct. 690 notes, Supreme As the majority the part as to be considered of Circumstances emphasized that reasonable sus- Court has analysis suspicion include: the reasonable picion suspicion particular “a the [about] training, experience the officer’s Unit Cortez, being stopped.” 449 individual Arvizu, 266, 273, 122 534 ed States v. However, 101 offi- U.S. at S.Ct. 690. (2002); 740 the 151 L.Ed.2d S.Ct. that, required ignore cers are not facts Tinnie, location, stop’s United States themselves, by are insufficient to create (7th Cir.2011) (noting 629 F.3d 752 Indeed, suspicion. these facts reasonable high-crime in a stop that the occurred totality the of circum- part of the area); occurred, Patton, stop 705 when the must as- stances and considered when be (noting F.3d at that the occurred 738 See, suspicion. e.g., sessing reasonable the “essentially night”); the middle of Ocampo, (holding 890 F.2d at 1368 behavior, suspect’s and the demeanor itself, although by insufficient infor- “[t]he Ocampo, 890 F.2d United States just supplied by mation informant [an] [i]s (7th Cir.1989). “[a]ny Frequently among many” one factor to consider when by of factors [identified one these the offi rea- determining whether officers had “a any by proof illegal itself cer] suspicion”). sonable and articulable More- quite conduct and is consistent with inno over, consistently we have found reason- But together cent ... taken [conduct]. frisks suspicion justify able sufficient suspicion.” amount reasonable background generalized, based on facts Sokolow, at conjunction particular with facts аbout the See, Patton, suspect. e.g., 705 F.3d at B. (considering “beginning factors 738-39 Applying princi- these well-established moving with the general the toward ples, I would hold the of Mr. Williams frisk specific” justified the reason- officers’ by to be within the delineated Ter- bounds suspicion, “high-crime able such as the ry supported suspicion. occurred, city” area ‍‌​​​‌‌​​​​‌‌​‌​‌​​‌‌​‌​​​​​‌​​​​‌‌‌​‌‌‌​‌​‌​‌‌​​‍the the frisk where begin by recalling the circumstances frisk, night as time of the well as facing Jesberger when Mr. suspect’s “evasive behavior” and “nervous approached Williams him because these demeanor”); v. Oglesby, United States circumstances must a reasonable support (7th Cir.2010) (finding rea- suspicion specifically that Mr. Williams suspect’s sonable based Tinnie, dangerous. See armed “behavior, coupled circum- other (“In determining whether stances,” such as the fact the encoun- suspicion, an officer had reasonable courts suspect ter in a with the “occurred at known consider the circumstances location that was known to the officers to (internal officer at time of area”); Brown, [frisk].” a high-crime omitted)). quotation marks Officer Jes- (finding “reasonable berger that Mr. knew Williams and suspect] might danger- be armed and [the other in a members were ous to support [the which was sufficient area, high-crime relatively late at night, pat-down decision to conduct the officer’s] reported presence call suspect’s search” individual be- when *18 “[a]gainst several and th[e] firearms that Mr. Williams havior was considered location). group background” stop’s other members of the refused to generalized going pockets, facts outlined above it's either to be in their only waistband, [Mr. were not the circumstances confront- their and that's where ing Jesberger were, why Officer when he decided to Williams's] hands so that's Rather, there.[ 5] frisk Mr. Williams. Mr. Williams the concern was something distinguished did him from When asked if he was "concerned about the rest of the and that caused the safety," Jesberger officers' Officer re officer to conclude that a frisk was neces- sponded "[f]irst that he was concerned sary. magistrate judge and the dis- safety ofj [with foremost the communi trict court both credited Officer Jesber- ty everyone there, else around as well ger's testimony suppression hearing: at the safety" as officer based on the attendant thing [T]he that drew me to Mr. circumstances and Mr. Williams's behavi Wffliams was that his hands were in his or.6 pockets avoiding- and he was kind of everyone avoiding eye Terry contact with Courts since have made clear that usually, my assessing whether, totality us and that's based оn train under the ing experience people circumstances, justified when an officer "is avoiding eye trying believing suspi contact and kind of that the individual whose away us, pretty investigating to walk that's a cious behavior he is at close good sign something up.[ 1] range presently dangerous is armed and others," weight that, upon request the officer or to "due must He also testified his given specific speak [the officer's] rea to Mr. Williams "to come over and sonable inferences which he is entitled to me," initially replied Mr. Williams "why"; Jesberger repeated light experi then draw from the facts in of his Terry, request, complied.2 ence." 392 U.S. at his and Mr. Williams 1868; Jackson, approached see also United States v. As Mr. Williams Officer Jes- berger, however, kept (7th Cir.2002) (holding he his hands in his 300 F.3d pockets. Observing placement totality of Mr. of the circumstances "in hands, Jesberger `experience clude[ Williams's re J the of the law enforce quested place agent'" (quoting that Mr. Williams "to both ment United States v. Odum, (7th Cir.1995))); of his hands-take both of his hands out of pocket. Andrade, He also decided "to con . .3 United States v. pat-down my safety (1st Cir.2008) (holding forming duct a and for the that in safety everyone [weap suspect may there due to the a reasonable that a the] dangerous, "may ons nature of сall and due to him be armed and an officer having weapon experience special his hands in a area."4 Of- draw on his own Jesberger explained training fleer that the location ized to make inferences from and of Mr. Williams's hands was his "first and deductions about the cumulative informa concern," might foremost because tion ... well elude an untrained weapons call, person" (internal quotation with a have a marks omit gun, typically going place ted)). Frequently, it's to be a going found based on "the circumstances of the where I'm to be able to see it. So 5. Id. at 13. 1. R.20at20.

2. Id. at 12. 6. Id.

3. Id. at 12-13. Id. at 13-14. *19 Majority Op. specific His night,” offi- at 688.

encounter, with [the in combination behavior, possession, Oglesby, weapon indicative of training.” experience and cer’s] determining into in taken account must be 597 F.3d suspi- the officer had a reasonable whether experience, training his Based on Williams was armed cion that Mr. that Mr. Jesberger believed dangerous. weapon a because secreting was Williams him his approached with Mr. Williams in placement of his hands Mr. Williams’s recognized pockets. in his We hands se- weapons typically are an area where in suspect’s a hands placement that the police in close to a proximity creted while legiti is a or at his waistband pockets his conjunction in officer must considered assessing whether in mate consideration confronting the other circumstances justified believing in that an officer is report in the that some the officers—the a threat presents is armed and individual armed, upon evasive behavior group were See, e.g., or to others. United to himself arrival, loca- high-crime the officers’ the (7th Mitchell, v. 256 F.3d States tion, pres- time of the encounter and the Cir.2001) (finding reasonable all of nearby. Considering of others ence that, frisking officer testified where factors, a they that create these conclude that experience, fact past [the ‘“[f]rom suspicion that Mr. Williams reasonable front of his Mitchell’s hand was on the posed safety risk to the was armed a that, one, signified they’re either waist] Therefore, I the officers and public. in waist holding something on to their jus- Jesberger that would hold “I band, and that gun drugs” be it a conducting frisk of protective tified in a considering in strongly felt this further in- conducting Mr. Williams before and Mr. fired call we had received shots vestigation. action, it was a—it was Mitchell’s that ” (alteration original)); in case’ his majority’s an un- The decision creates also, Mays, 643 e.g., see United States police disregards rule for workable (6th Cir.2011) (identifying safety. The Terry’s concern officer his hands suspect “frantically dug is not majority police holds officer totality pockets” into his as one of of a protective to conduct frisk entitled Andrade, frisk); justifying circumstances investigating whom “he is at close suspect at 113 that the facts (finding range,” Terry, 392 pocket[] his “Andrade had hands has received a re- when officer contrib eye and refused to make contact” group that some of which port objectively be uted to officer’s suspect part possess weapons is a he danger); lief that United likely behavior that he suspect’s indicates Cir.2007) Ellis, guidance no majority is armed. offers nervously and (noting suspect “act[ed] in this more police to the situation. What among other pocket” toward his reach[ed] do an officer can suspect must the before frisk). justified factors that majority protective frisk? conduct commanding say. How does does particularized This information about today’s police precinct explain of a be- officer significant Williams’s conduct is before distinguished holding it to his cause Mr. Williams gang-infested in the members and from take to the streets the other of the cir- major this merely “any person been around areas of cities within that had up cuit? the area when officers showed

How much more risk must officer be min-

required to absorb before he can take protect

imal actions to himself? The Su-

preme Terry deny Court stated that “to power necessary

the officer the to take

measures to person determine whether the in fact carrying weapon and to neutral- harm,” physical “clearly

ize the threat of practical

unreasonable.” Id. This is the majority’s holding.

effect of the It consti- major departure

tutes from the estab- Supreme

lished case law of the Court and

of this court. Sup.Ct. See R. 10. reasons, foregoing

For the I respectfully

dissent. PEREZ, Plaintiff-Appellant,

Norma

THORNTONS, INCORPORATED,

Defendant-Appellee.

No. 12-3669.

United Appeals, States Court of

Seventh Circuit.

Argued April 2013. Sept.

Decided

Case Details

Case Name: United States v. Andre Williams
Court Name: Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit
Date Published: Sep 24, 2013
Citation: 731 F.3d 678
Docket Number: 12-3864
Court Abbreviation: 7th Cir.
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