Mr. Justice Bean
delivered the opinion of the court.
1. The motion to set aside the information was properly overruled. It was not made until after a demurrer had been interposed and overruled,' and therefore came too late. State v. Smith, 33 Or. 483 (55 Pac. 534); State v. McElvain, 35 Or. 365 (58 Pac. 525). And, moreover, it was without merit.
2. The office of prosecuting attorney is provided for, and its duties defined, in part, by Section 17, Article VII, of the Constitution of Oregon. The office therefore cannot be abolished or the constitutional duties thereof abridged by the legislature.
3. There is nothing, however, in the constitution which restricts the legislature or lawmaking power from providing that such officer may have deputies to act in his name and stead. Nesbit v. People, 19 Colo. 441 (36 Pac. 221).
4. The legislature made such a provision by the laws of 1903 (Gen. Laws 1903, Sp. Sess. p. 32), and the act of the deputy in signing and filing the information was the act of his principal, and therefore satisfies the requirements of Section 9, Article I, of the Constitution, which *562declares that no warrant, shall issue but upon probable cause supported by oath or affirmation. State v. Guglielmo, 46 Or. 261 (79 Pac. 577: 80 Pac. 103: 69 L. R. A. 466).
5. Upon the former appeal the judgment was reversed, and a new trial ordered. From the entry of judgment of the record in the court below, the action was pending in that court for trial, notwithstanding the former verdict and judgment. Section 1489, B. & C. Comp. The plea of a former conviction was not in form or substance as required by the statute (Section 1367) and was not sufficient to constitute such a plea at common law. Mr. Bishop says the substantial allegations at common law are:
“That heretofore, at a court which is mentioned, an indictment whose terms are fully recited was found against the defendant under a name stated, which may be that in the present indictfiient or not according to the fact; that he pleaded thereto, and was convicted or acquitted as the fact was; and the sentence thereon is set out. The plea then avers that the defendant in the former indictment was the same person as in the present one, and the two offenses a,re the same.” 1 Bishop, N. Crim. Proc. § 810.
The plea in this case contains none of the averments which Mr. Bishop says are essential, but only that defendant had been found guilty by the verdict of a jury, without any allegation that he had been indicted or informed against, or that he pleaded thereto, or that a trial had been had in any court of competent jurisdiction, and a judgment of conviction rendered therein. The plea was therefore bad on its face, either as a plea of former conviction or former jeopardy, and was properly stricken out. State v. Salge, 2 Nev. 321; Shubert v. State, 21 Tex. App. 551 (2 S. W. 883); Wortham v. Commonwealth, 5 Randolph, 569.
6. The Constitution (Section 11, Article I) provides that in all criminal prosecutions the accused shall have *563the right “to meet the witnesses face to face,” and it is contended that the admission of the testimony of the witnesses Johnson and Hogeboom, given on the former trial of the accused, was an infringement, of this right. The Constitution of the United States, and of most states of the Union, contains similar provisions, and the general, if not the universal, holding- of the courts is that their essential purpose is to secure to an accused the right of cross-examination, and if he has once enjoyed that right no constitutional privilege is violated, by the admission of the testimony of such a witness, who is dead or absent from a state, at a subsequent trial. Underhill, Crim. Ev. § 255; 2 Wigmore, Ev. § 1397; State v. Nelson, 68 Kan. 566 (75 Pac. 505); People v. Dowdigan, 67 Mich. 95 (38 N. W. 920); State v. Byers, 16 Mont. 565 (41 Pac. 708); Territory v. Evans, 2 Idaho (Hasb.) 651 (23 Pac. 232: 7 L. R. A. 646); Marler v. State, 67 Ala. 55 (42 Am. Dec. 95); State v. McO’Blenis, 24 Mo. 402 (69 Am. Dec. 435); State v. King, 24 Utah, 482 (68 Pac. 418: 91 Am. St. Rep. 808: note, 61 Am. St. Rep. 886). The question was thoroughly examined by the Supreme Court of the United States in Mattox v. United States, 156 U. S. 237 (15 Sup. Ct. 337: 39 L. Ed. 409), and Mr. Justice Brown, after referring-to the rule in England, and saying “we know • of none of the states (in this country) in which such testimony is now held to be inadmissible,” proceeds: “The question was carefully considered in its constitutional aspect by the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts in Commonwealth v. Richards, 18 Pick. 434 (29 Am. Dec. 608), in which it was said that: ‘That provision was made to exclude any evidence by deposition, which would be given orally in the presence of the accused, but was not intended to affect the question as to what was or was not competent evidence to be given' face to face according to the settled rules of common law.’ * * The primary object of the constitutional provision in question was to prevent depositions' or ex parte affidavits, *564such as were sometimes admitted in civil cases, being-used against the prisoner in lieu of a personal examination and cross-examination of the witness in which the accused has an opportunity, not only of testing the recollection and sifting, the conscience of the witness, but of compelling him to stand face to face with the jury in order that they may look at him, and judge by his demeanor upon the stand and the manner in which he gives his testimony whether he is worthy of belief. There is doubtless reason for saying that the accused should never lose the benefit of any of these safeguards even by the death of the witness'; and that, if notes of his testimony are permitted to be read, he is deprived of the advantage of that personal presence of the witness before the jury which the law has designed for his protection. But the general rules of law of this kind, however beneficent in their operation and valuable to the accused, must occasionally give way to considerations of public policy and the necessities of the case. To say that a criminal, after having once been convicted by the testimony of a certain witness, should go scot free simply because death has closed the mouth of that witness, would be carrying his constitutional protection to an unwarrantable extent. The law in its wisdom declares that the rights of the public shall not be wholly sacrificed in order that an incidental benefit may be preserved to the accused.”
7. The testimony of a witness, deceased or out of the State, or unable' to testify, given on a former action, civil or criminal, between the same parties,, relating to the same matter, is, by statute, made competent on a subsequent trial (Sections 718, 1399), unless prohibited by Section 1402, which declares that in a criminal action the testimony of a witness must be given orally in the presence of the court and jury, except in the case of a witness whose testimony is taken by deposition, by order of the court in pursuance of the consent of the parties, *565as provided in Sections 1379 to 1385, inclusive, relating to continuances; but we think this section should not be construed to prevent the testimony of a witness, in a criminal action, given orally in the presence of the court and jury, who has since died or is out of the jurisdiction of the court, from being read on a subsequent trial of the same defendant on the same criminal charge. It relates to the manner in which the testimony is to be given or taken in the first instance, and not to the use which may be made of it after it is once given. The statute was intended to make the general rule, concerning the taking of depositions, inapplicable to criminal trials; but we cannot think it was designed to abrogate a doctrine so firmly established and generally -applied as that of permitting the testimony of a witness given in the manner required by statute to be used by either the State or defense on a subsequent trial, when he has since died or is absent from the State. A strict construction of the language of the section would, perhaps, exclude such testimony; but it would also exclude the dying declarations of the deceased, which are everywhere admitted, on the ground of necessity. It is for the same reason that the testimony of a deceased or absent witness is admissible, and the technical language of the statute must give way to public policy and necessity. It is just as important for a defendant that the testimony of a witness in his behalf, given on a former trial, should be competent at a second trial, where the witness is dead or is without the reach of process, as it is for the State, and the statute should, we think, be so interpreted as to protect and preserve the rights of both.
8. There was no error in refusing the instruction requested, to the effect that the jury had a right, and it was their duty, to pass upon the law as well as the facts. The verdict of a jury in a criminal case necessarily includes both law and fact, and it is therefore within its power to determine the law as well as the facts; but *566it has no legal right to do so. The jury are required to find the law and the facts “under the direction of the court, as to the law” (Section 16, Article I, Constitution of Oregon; Section 410, B. & C. Comp.; State v. Reinhart, 26 Or. 466: 38 Pac. 822; State v. Reed, 52 Or. 377: 97 Pac. 627; Sparf & Hansen v. United States, 156 U. S. 51: 15 Sup. Ct. 273: 39 L. Ed. 343), and should receive and accept the law as given by the court, and not assume to decide it for themselves.
9. The other assignments of error do not require particular notice. The testimony of Mrs. Smith was clearly incompetent, and the testimony in relation to the age of defendant immaterial.
10. Any error that may have been committed in permitting the witness to testify to the- age of defendant, as shown by the school register, could not have injured him. According to his own testimony, he had reached an age of discretion- at the time the alleged crime was committed, and whether he was 17 or 19 years of age could have had no material bearing on his guilt or innocence.
Judgment affirmed. Affirmed.
Decided April 30, 1909.
On Petition for Rehearing.
[101 Pac. 889.]
Per Curiam:
11. The effect of Section 11, Article I, of the Constitution, and Sections 814, 817, 1402, B. & C. Comp., on the .general rule that the testimony of a witness, ' deceased or out of the State, given on a former trial, is competent on a subsequent trial between the same parties, and relating to the same matter, was, we think, sufficiently considered in the former opinion. As was there said, the constitution and the statutory provisions referred to have relation to the manner-in which the testimony in a criminal trial is to be given- or taken in the first instance, and not the use which- may be made of it after it is given. They were not intended to. abro*567gate the general rule as to the competency of such testimony. It is stoutly insisted, however, that the testimony of Johnson and Hogeboom was incompetent, even under the rule stated, because the trial in which they testified was a nullity, since defendant had not pleaded to the indictment, and hence there was no issue for trial, and the witnesses would not have been liable for perjury if they had sworn falsely. Perjury cannot be committed in a judicial proceeding absolutely void for want of jurisdiction. Collins v. State, 78 Ala. 433; Buell v. State, 45 Ark. 336. But where the court, before whom the oath of a witness is taken, has jurisdiction of the subject-matter and the parties, and the testimony given is material to the inquiry then before the court, false swearing is perjury, though the proceedings may be so irregular or erroneous as to require a reversal on appeal. Maynard v. People, 135 Ill. 416 (25 N. E. 740); State v. Brewer, 7 Blackf. 45; Morford v. Oklahoma, 10 Okl. 741 (63 Pac. 958: 54 L. R. A. 513); State v. Lavalley, 9 Mo. 435; State v. Peters, 107 N. C. 876 (12 S. E. 74); Anderson v. State, 24 Tex. App. 705 (7 S. W. 40). And consequently it is held that the failure of a defendant to enter a plea does not render a subsequent trial so far void that false swearing therein cannot be perjury. State v. Lewis, 10 Kan. 157. Nor will a failure to swear the jury have that effect. Smith v. State, 31 Tex. Cr. R. 315 (20 S. W. 707).
There is a quotation from a California case, in the opinion of Mr. Commissioner King in State v. Walton, 50 Or. 142 (91 Pac. 490: 13 L. R. A. (N. S.) 811), to the effect that perjury cannot be committed on the trial of a defendant in a criminal action, who has not pleaded to the indictment, but this statement was unnecessary to the decision of the case, and is not believed to be sound law. The statutes of this State provides:
“If any person * * of whom an oath or affirmation shall be required by such law, shall willfully swear or affirm falsely in regard to any matter or thing concerning which *568such oath or affirmation is authorized or required, such person shall be deemed guilty of perjury.” Section 1875.
The court in which the testimony of Johnson and Hogeboom was given had jurisdiction of the case then on trial. They were required by law to take an oath or affirmation to tell the truth (Section 694) ; and, if the evidence given by them was material to the inquiry then before the court, perjury could be assigned thereon, if it was willfully false, notwithstanding the proceedings were so irregular as to require a reversal on appeal. The irregularities or errors on the trial were matters which concerned the defendant in the case, but not the witnesses who testified therein. It would be no defense for them, if charged with perjury, to show that the court committed error in the proceeding, provided it had jurisdiction. It would be most unreasonable to require that all proceedings of a court, in which a witness testified falsely, should be in strict conformity to law before the witness could be proceeded against for perjury. Such a rule would change the parties and issues, and, instead of trying a perjurer for false swearing, the court would be called upon to review the judgment of the court in which the false swearing occurred.
12. It is claimed that the court was in error in holding that the admission of the testimony of Miss Butler, concerning an entry in the school register of the age of defendant, was harmless. The bill of exceptions discloses that defendant was a witness in his own behalf, and, among other things, testified that his age was then 21 years, and on the 1st of September, 1904, he was 17 years old. The State, in rebuttal, called Miss Butler, who testified that a register of the names, ages, attendance, and deportment of pupils in the Couch school, for February, 1900, was in the handwriting of Miss McKenzie, a teacher in such school at that time; that the entries in such register of the names and ages of the pupils were copies from census forms sent out, at the *569beginning of each school term, to the parents and returned signed by one of them. She was thereupon permitted, over defendant’s objection and exception, to read to the jury from such register an entry, to the effect that on February 7, 1900, the defendant was a pupil.in such school, and that his age was 15 years, 3 months. That this testimony was incompetent may be conceded, but we are unable to understand how its admission could, prejudice the defendant in any way. Its only purpose was to show his age, and that was not a material question on the trial. From his own testimony it appears that he had reached an age of discretion at the time the alleged crime was committed, and whether he was older than he claimed could not have any material bearing on his guilt or innocence.
13. It is said that the testimony of Miss Butler tended to show that defendant’s evidence as to his age was false, and thereby to discredit his testimony on other matters, under the rule that a witness false in one part of his testimony is to be discredited in others. But there is nothing in the record to show that he gave any other material testimony, and moreover, the entry in the school register did not tend to contradict him. It was made without his knowledge, and he was in no way responsible for it, or any of the entries therein. There is no pretense that he furnished the information for which they were made, or knew anything about them.
There are some other points made in the petition for rehearing, but we think they were sufficiently covered by the former opinion.
Petition denied. Affirmed : Rehearing Denied.
Dissenting Opinion.
[102 Pae. 178.]
Dissenting opinion by
Mr. Justice King.
I find it impossible, after a careful re-examination into the merits of the above action on petition for rehear*570ing, to agree with my associates in the conclusion reached denying the petition. As reluctant as I am to dissent from the views of the majority, yet, owing to the resultant evil effects that must follow the precedents to be established thereby, I feel it my duty to place on record my dissent from the conclusion announced.
Under the holding of this court in State v. Walton, 50 Or. 142 (91 Pac. 490: 13 L. R. A. (N. S.) 811), the defendant not having entered a plea, no issue was tried, and without an issue I am of the opinion that perjury could not, under any circumstances, be predicated upon false testimony given at such trial, from which it follows that it was error to permit the typewritten copy of the testimony at the former trial to be read in evidence. Section 11, Article I of the Oregon Constitution, guarantees to the accused the right to meet the witness face to face. However, in a case where the court acquires jurisdiction of the cause, and an issue is tried, even though it be for some cause declared a mistrial, for the reasons stated in the main opinion, I think such course is permissible. But, where no issue was before the court, the evidence must necessarily be immaterial, of no binding effect, and the reading of which, in any subsequent proceedings, should not be permitted, except under such circumstances as the admission of any statement not given under oath might be deemed proper. It was held in State v. Lewis, 10 Kan. 157, relied upon, that perjury could be predicated upon false testimony given under such circumstances. This was upon the theory that, if the defendant had been acquitted at a trial without an issue, a plea of former jeopardy could have been pleaded. In the case under consideration we have held, and, I think, wisely, that the plea of former jeopardy was not well taken, and it would have been incumbent upon us to so hold in the event the defendant had been acquitted and again tried after the entry of a plea. The error in the case of State v. Lewis, 10 Kan. 157, evidently *571occurred by erroneously assuming that a plea of former jeopardy, under such circumstances, could have been successfully pleaded. It might also be well to note that Mr. Justice BREWER, who wrote the opinion in State v. Lewis, 10 Kan. 157, also wrote an opinion which was subsequently overruled (as indicated in State v. Walton, 50 Or. 142, 151: 91 Pac. 490: 13 L. R. A. (N.S.) 811), holding that the failure to enter a plea of guilty, or not guilty, was a matter of form, and not of substance (State v. Cassady, 12 Kan. 550), and that his views were not only disapproved by a subsequent decision of that court, but by the Supreme Court of the United States as well (Crain v. U. S., 162 U. S. 625: 16 Sup. Ct. 952: 40 L. Ed. 1097), in which the same eminent jurist, then a member of that court, dissented. His preconceived, but subsequently disapproved, views along these lines doubtless had much to do with the conclusion reached in State v. Lewis, 10 Kan. 157, on this question, the fallacy of which consisted in assuming a premise which had no foundation in law. While I believe that under some circumstances the reading of testimony taken in one trial should be permitted in a retrial of the same cause, I think in the case at bar, where there was no issue, it cannot be said that there was, in law, a trial of any kind, for which reason the testimony complained of was inadmissible. A trial, under such circumstances, is a mere nullity, and any evidence adduced thereat hearsay only. No one will question — in fact it is elementary— that a witness cannot be convicted of perjury for any statements made at a trial, though under oath, where the testimony relates solely to immaterial matters. Now, if there were no issue to try, how can it be said that any statements at the pretended trial were material? If so, material to what? Material to a supposed or imaginary issue? I do not question the statement in the majority opinion that “it would be most unreasonable to require that all proceedings of a court in which a wit*572ness testified falsely should be in strict conformity to law before the witness could be proceeded against for perjury.” This is not a case where testimony was given in a mistrial, and the trial reversed for a mere irregularity, but one where the pretended trial was a nullity. Had it come under that class where a reversible error occurred on account of some irregularity only, the conclusion reached per curiam would be tenable, but that such is not the situation here is conceded, and, when conceded, makes a reversal, on account of the admission of the testimony in the manner complained of, inevitable.
Another important feature disposed of by this court, to which I cannot agree, is in holding that the testimony of Mrs. Butler, although héarsay and inadmissible, constituted a harmless error. The effect of this testimony was to show that the defendant had testified falsely, and whether the feature concerning which the false testimony'may have been given was material or immaterial can make no difference so far as the effect upon the jury is concerned. It is true that some jurors may have taken into consideration the fact that it is immaterial, and did not go to the merits of the controversy, but how are we to determine this fact? Again,- it appears that the usual statutory instruction was given to the effect that a witness, false in one part of his testimony, is to be distrusted in others, and it is not to be presumed that this witness testified upon this point only. In fact, the record discloses that he gave other testimony. Further-. more, no rule is better settled in this State than that, where an error in the trial of a cause is once shown, prejudicial error will be presumed, making it incumbent upon the party relying upon its harmless character to place in the bill of exceptions the data essential to a demonstration of its harmless effect. Carter v. Wakeman, 45 Or. 427, 430 (78 Pac. 362); State v. Reed, 52 Or. 377 (97 Pac. 627). Then, under this instruction of the court, counsel for the State were permitted to *573argue to the jury that the defendant, having made a false statement in one instance, should be distrusted as to all other testimony given by him. To say that this would be harmless error, and not have an effect upon the jury prejudicial to the defendant, is to ignore the common experience of every practitioner at the bar.
It may be that the defendant is guilty, and, if so, his sentence of three years at hard labor, in addition to the same period previously served, is not too severe; but with that we have nothing to do. As stated by Mr. Justice Harlan, in Crain v. U. S., 162 U. S. 625 (16 Sup. Ct. 952: 40 L. Ed. 1097): “The present defendant may be guilty, and may deserve the full punishment imposed upon him by the sentence of the trial court. But it were better that he should escape altogether than that the court should sustain a judgment of conviction of an infamous crime where the record does not clearly show that there was a valid trial.” The experience of centuries has made it incumbent upon the highest civilized countries of the world to recognize, as the basis of every prosecution, that every man is presumed to be innocent until proved guilty, and that he must be so proved in a trial regularly had in the manner provided by law. It is here conceded that this was not done; that the testimony was inadmissible — and I think, beyond question, prejudicial to defendant, from which it must follow that he was precluded from having a fair and impartial trial under the law.
I am therefore of the opinion that the judgment of the lower court should be reversed, and a new trial ordered.