OPINION
In this interlocutory appeal, 1 the State of Texas challenges the trial court’s order suppressing two oral statements of appel-lee Octavio Ortiz. We will affirm the order of the trial court.
Background
The trial court’s order was signed after a hearing on the motion to suppress, at which Lubbock County Sheriffs Deputy, Corporal Jason Johnson, was the only witness. At the State’s request, the trial court issued findings of fact and conclusions of law. The court’s findings include the facts that on May 20, 2009, on U.S. Highway 87 south of Lubbock, Corporal Johnson stopped a 2009 Dodge Avenger driven by appellee Ortiz, for speeding. A camera in Johnson’s vehicle recorded the stop and the video-audio recording was admitted in evidence and played for the court at the suppression hearing.
The court’s findings also include the facts that as Ortiz brought the Dodge to a *130 stop, he leaned over the passenger seat, which his wife occupied. The vehicle bore license plates from Chihuahua, Mexico. Ortiz and his wife spoke Spanish to Johnson, although evidence showed, and the trial court found, they understood English. At times during the stop, Johnson spoke to them in Spanish.
Ortiz told Johnson he lived in Odessa and he and his wife were traveling to Spearman, Texas. However, at other times during the stop he and his wife indicated their destination was Gruver, Texas. Ortiz also told Johnson he was previously arrested for cocaine possession and was on probation in Spearman.
Johnson then spoke with Ortiz’s wife. To him, she appeared nervous, breathing rapidly. She told Johnson she had about $1,000 with her and she “guessed” Ortiz had a similar amount. As they spoke Johnson detected a “faint” odor of raw marijuana coming from the vehicle’s interi- or. He requested a background check and called for a backup officer. Moments later he called for a female officer as well.
At Johnson’s request, Ortiz gave permission to search the vehicle and his person. Meanwhile the requested backup officers arrived at the location of the stop. The female officer had Ortiz’s wife step from the vehicle and began patting her down. When Ortiz’s wife made movements to avoid the pat-down, the male and female officers placed her against the car and the female officer continued the pat-down search. The female officer felt an object attached to the woman’s right thigh. She was handcuffed and, according to a finding of the trial court, arrested. At that point, Johnson, who was standing with Ortiz, told him to place his hands behind his back to be handcuffed. Ortiz was not given Miranda warnings. 2 Johnson testified that he placed Ortiz in handcuffs for safety while officers determined what was strapped to his wife’s leg. In Johnson’s opinion, Ortiz was not then under arrest.
When the backup officer told Johnson that the female officer had found “something” under Ortiz’s wife’s skirt, Johnson asked Ortiz what kind of drugs his wife had. Ortiz responded “coca” and “cocaí-na,” which the trial court found meant cocaine. At Johnson’s instruction, the female officer brought Ortiz’s wife to Johnson’s vehicle, directly in front of the camera, for removal of the suspected cocaine. As they approached the vehicle Johnson was off camera. He asked how much (“cuantos?”) cocaine Ortiz’s wife had. She responded “un kilo,” which the trial court found meant one kilogram of cocaine. Ortiz also responded to Johnson’s question that his wife had one kilo of cocaine. The female officer removed a package of suspected cocaine duct-taped to Ortiz’s wife’s leg.
Ortiz was subsequently indicted for possession of 400 grams or more of cocaine with intent to deliver. 3 He filed a motion to suppress evidence and his statements made during the stop. After the hearing, the trial court granted the motion in part, ordering suppression of Ortiz’s two statements, his “coca” or “cocaína” statement *131 identifying the substance as cocaine, and his “un kilo” statement .identifying its amount. The State now appeals.
Analysis
Standard of Review
In reviewing a suppression ruling, we afford almost total deference to the trial court’s findings of fact, but review
de novo
its application of law to those facts.
Maxwell v. State,
First Issue
By its first issue, the State asserts the suppressed statements were admissible even though Ortiz had not received Miranda warnings before making them because, the State argues, he was then either not in custody or not being interrogated, and even if he were being subjected to custodial interrogation, the statements were admissible as “assertions of fact.” 5 We will address each of the arguments in turn.
Was Ortiz in custody on his first statement?
The Standard
The requirements of warning and waiver of rights set forth in
Miranda
serve to protect the Fifth Amendment right against compelled self-incrimination.
Dickerson v. United States,
*132
The Supreme Court long ago held that persons temporarily detained pursuant to ordinary traffic stops are not “in custody” for
Miranda
purposes.
Berkemer v. McCarty,
One of the factors that led the Court to treat the detention that accompanies an ordinary traffic stop like a
Terry
stop
6
rather than as custodial under
Miranda
is such a detention of a motorist is “presumptively temporary and brief.”
Berkemer,
Application
The trial court concluded that Ortiz was in custody for Miranda purposes when he was handcuffed. The State agrees Ortiz was in custody by the time he made the second (“un kilo”) of the suppressed statements, 7 but argues he was not in custody when he made the first statement (“cocai-na”). For the reasons that follow, we see no error in the trial court’s conclusion.
We begin by noting that, according to unchallenged findings of fact, the events during which Ortiz made the suppressed statements occurred relatively quickly. The sequence of events from Ortiz’s wife being placed under arrest by the female deputy when she felt the object on her leg, and Ortiz’s “un kilo” statement, the second statement, all occurred in a minute and twenty seconds. The two suppressed statements themselves were made only thirty seconds apart. The State’s analysis thus draws a fine line during relatively fast-moving events, as according to the State a person in Ortiz’s circumstances reasonably could have perceived himself as in custody when Johnson asked him the second question but not when he asked the first question thirty seconds before.
The “reasonable person” standard we apply presupposes an
innocent
person.
Dowthitt,
Shortly after Ortiz was removed from his car, and immediately after Johnson’s first conversation with Ortiz’s wife, Johnson confronted Ortiz with an accusation they were carrying drugs. He asked Ortiz “how much” drugs were in the car. In response, the court found, Ortiz “backed away and said, ‘No.’ ” After that exchange, Johnson further questioned Ortiz about his destination and his purpose for traveling there, then called for the backup officer and then a female officer. Johnson then asked Ortiz for consent to search his person and the vehicle. Shortly after the backup and female officers had arrived, the female officer began the pat-down of Ortiz’s wife, “felt an object” on her right thigh, and arrested her. Those officers then “called out” something to Johnson, who then handcuffed Ortiz. Johnson gave Ortiz no reason for placing him in handcuffs. 8 The backup officer walked back over to Ortiz and Johnson, telling him the female officer had found “something” under Ortiz’s wife’s skirt.
Johnson testified he handcuffed Ortiz for officer safety. The trial court’s findings include the fact Johnson placed Ortiz in handcuffs while his wife was resisting the pat-down. In arguing that Ortiz then was detained but not arrested, the State’s brief contains the statement, “Whether a seizure is an actual arrest or an investigative detention depends on the reasonableness of the intrusion under all the facts.” While accurate as a proposition of Fourth Amendment law, for purposes of our present inquiry the statement misses the mark. As we have noted, the requirements of
Miranda
arise from Fifth Amendment protections.
Dickerson,
A conclusion Ortiz was in custody under
Miranda
when he was handcuffed means neither that he actually was under arrest nor that Johnson’s stated concerns for officer safety were unreasonable, under a
*134
Fourth Amendment analysis.
9
See Newton,
By the time Ortiz was placed in handcuffs, in light of the surrounding circumstances, a reasonable person would have understood that his detention was no longer likely to be “temporary and brief,” but “long term.”
Berkemer,
Were the two statements the product of interrogation?
The State further contends even if in custody Ortiz was not being interrogated when he made the two statements because the question prompting the first statement was “a general or routine question” and the question prompting the second statement was posed to Ortiz’s wife and not Ortiz.
Once Ortiz was in custody, interrogation could not occur until he was provided his
Miranda
rights.
Miranda,
Concerning the first statement, at the suppression hearing Johnson testified that he asked Ortiz, “What kind of drugs does [Ortiz’s wife] have [?[?] ” Not all post-arrest questioning constitutes an interrogation.
Jones v. State,
As for the second statement, the State argues it was not the result of interrogation of Ortiz because Johnson’s question “cuantos?” (“how much?”) was not addressed to Ortiz but to his wife. The argument depends on resolution of that fact issue: to whom Johnson’s question was directed. The trial court addressed the issue in its findings of fact and conclusions of law. The court’s conclusions of law contain a conclusion stating, “[Ortiz’s] statement that the amount of cocaine found on [his wife’s] person was a quantity of one kilo was made in response to a question by Deputy Johnson to him.”
The designation placed on a finding of fact or conclusion of law by a trial court is not controlling on a reviewing court.
State v. May,
The State argues, however, that the court’s statement, whether finding or conclusion, is not supported by the record. The video does not resolve the issue; Johnson and Ortiz are outside the camera’s view during the question and response. To the State, Johnson’s testimony at the suppression hearing makes clear that he directed his question to Ortiz’s wife. We do not agree that his testimony gives a clear answer. In fact, as recorded by the court reporter, Johnson’s testimony regarding his “cuantos” question makes little sense. 10 Based on the record before us, we will defer to the trial court’s express finding that Ortiz’s “un kilo” statement was in response to a question directed to him. 11
*136 Like the question precipitating Ortiz’s first statement, the question of the quantity of the cocaine was not a general question but one certain to elicit an incriminating response. We agree with the trial court that Ortiz was subject to interrogation, for purposes of Miranda, when he made the two statements.
Were the two statements nevertheless admissible under article 38.22 § 3(c)?
The State further argues, however, that even were we to find Ortiz was in custody when he made the two statements, the requirements of Article 38.22 § 3(a)
12
did not attach because the statements are admissible as “assertions of fact.” Tex.Code Crim. Proc. Ann. art. 38.22 § 3(c) (West 2005). Generally, an oral confession is inadmissible unless made in compliance with article 38.22 § 3(a).
Moore v. State,
The State appears to assume that statements admissible under § 3(c) are exempt from the requirements of
Miranda.
That is, an oral statement obtained during custodial interrogation, meeting the exception of § 3(c) would be admissible, even if not preceded by the
Miranda
warnings. For the proposition, the State cites no authority and we can envision none since such a rule would engraft an additional, unrecognized exception onto
Miranda. See
Dix
&
Schmolesky, §§ 16.134-16.137 (discussing
Miranda
exceptions for preserving “public safety,” “undercover investigations,” and “routine and noninvestigatory questioning”). We think it fundamental that statements admissible under § 3(c) are not exempt from the requirements of
Miranda. See Perillo v. State,
*137 Like the trial court, we conclude the two statements were the product of custodial interrogation occurring prior to receipt of the Miranda warnings. The statements were properly suppressed for this reason. We further conclude this result is not altered, even assuming the statements were within the exception to article 38.22 § 3(c). We overrule the State’s first issue.
The Second Issue
In its second issue, the State asserts that even if Ortiz was in custody and subject to interrogation at the time he made the two statements, the statements are nevertheless admissible under the
res gestae
exception provided by article 38.22 § 5. That section provides in part that nothing in article 38.22 precludes the admission “of a statement that is the res gestae of the arrest or of the offense.”
See
Tex.Code Crim. Proc. Ann. art. 38.22 § 5 (West 2005). A statement is
res ges-tae
if “made in response to a startling event, spontaneously or impulsively, without time for reflection or contrivance, and such a statement can be made in response to an inquiry.”
Williamson v. State,
When determining whether a statement is admissible as
res gestae,
the first concern is whether
Miranda
requires its exclusion.
Smith v. State,
Conclusion
Having overruled the State’s two issues on appeal, we affirm the order of the trial court suppressing the two statements of Ortiz.
Notes
. Tex.Code Crim. Proc. Ann. art. 44.01(a)(5) (West Supp. 2010).
.
Miranda v. Arizona,
. Possession of a controlled substance listed in Penalty Group I, which includes cocaine, with the intent to deliver is an offense under § 481.112(a) of the Texas Health and Safety Code. See Tex. Health & Safety Code Ann. § 481.112(a) (West 2010) and § 481.102(3)(D) (West 2010) (cocaine is a controlled substance listed in Penalty Group I). Under § 481.112(f), possession of 400 grams or more of cocaine is punishable by imprisonment for life or for a term of not more than 99 years or less than 15 years, and a fine not to exceed $250,000. Tex. Health & Safety Code Ann. § 481.112(f) (West 2010).
. The court’s conclusions are summarized by these concluding statements from its findings of fact and conclusions of law:
“The basis of this ruling is that [Ortiz] was ‘in custody' for Miranda purposes when he responded to Corporal Johnson’s 'custodial interrogation' inquiring about the identity of the substance attached to [Ortiz’s] passenger’s leg as well as the quantity. Because no Miranda warnings were given to [Ortiz] before the questions, and because [Ortiz] did not acknowledge and waive his rights before answering the question[s], his responsive statement[s] that the substance was cocaine and the amount was a kilo [are] inadmissible both under Miranda and under [art. 38.22.]”
. Oral statements and confessions made as a result of custodial interrogation are generally not admissible unless meeting the requirements of Code of Criminal Procedure article 38.22 § 3(a). Tex.Code Crim. Proc. Ann. art. 38.22 § 3(a) (West 2005);
Villarreal v. State,
.
Terry v. Ohio,
. The State acknowledges that Ortiz was in custody when he responded "un kilo” to Johnson’s second question asking how much cocaine his wife had because probable cause to arrest him was apparent by that time.
See Dowthitt,
.
See State v. Sheppard,
. Such a conclusion is thus also fully consistent with the holding of the Court of Criminal Appeals in
Sheppard,
. The colloquy between the prosecutor and Johnson that the State finds conclusive on the issue reads as follows:
, Q. Okay. And at that point then you say, 'Cuantos'? And does [Ortiz?] then — and what does 'Cuantos' mean?
A. How much.
Q. Okay. And does he respond when you ask him, 'Cuantos'?
A. I was asking her how much. And at the same time I answered him — or at the same time I answered, 'Is that you said,' because her response was, ‘Un kilo.' And he told me the same thing.
. The State also points to the trial court’s findings that Johnson was credible and his testimony true. We see no inconsistency between the two findings. On this record, the court readily could have found both that Johnson was credible and that his "cuantos” question was directed to Ortiz. The trial court was the sole judge of the weight to be given the testimony.
Ross,
. Article 38.22 § 3(a)
inter alia
requires that the accused receive the warnings of article 38.22 § 2(a). Section 2(a) includes the
Miranda
warnings as well as the right to terminate the interview at any time. Tex.Code Crim. Proc. Ann. art. 38.22 § 2(a)(l)-(5) (West 2005);
Penry v. State,
