OPINION
Daniel Inman seeks review of an unpublished court of appeals decision affirming his convictions of first-degree manufacture and fifth-degree possession of methamphetamine. Inman argues that the interrogating officer’s failure to record his custodial interrogation constituted a substantial violation of Scales such that the statement should have been suppressed. We affirm the court of appeals.
In the late afternoon of April 19, 2001, police officers entered the home of Paul and Kelly Becksted and executed a search warrant. The warrant was based on information received from a confidential informant that for some months methamphetamine had been sold from the Becksted residence. The officers found Paul Becksted and Inman in a downstairs bedroom, standing near a collection of tubing and containers that appeared to be a homemade methamphetamine laboratory. Based on this information and an incriminating statement made by Paul Becksted after his arrest, Inman was charged with one count of first-degree manufacture of a controlled substance, one count of fourth-degree aiding and abetting sale of a controlled substance, and one count of fifth-degree possession of a controlled substance.
At a contested omnibus hearing, Inman moved to suppress a statement he had made in an interview with the police after he was arrested and transported to the Scott County law enforcement center. In-man asserted that the statement was inadmissible because it was unrecorded, and the failure to record substantially violated our recording requirement in Scales.
The interview was conducted in the Scott County jail interview room by Deputy Doug Schmidtke of the Carver County Sheriffs Office. At the omnibus hearing, Schmidtke testified that he had a tape recorder with him in the interview room but did not turn it on during the interview. Schmidtke testified that after he read the Miranda warning to Inman, Inman told him that he did not wish to have his statement recorded, but that he would give Schmidtke some information. According to Schmidtke, Inman admitted the following:
[Becksted and Inman] had only cooked [methamphetamine] a few times a couple of weeks ago prior to this date, and then they were cooking for the second time when we raided the house. Talked about finding the recipe at Mystic Lake on a card or something, that they found it on a card in the parking lot or something like that. And they bought some ingredients, him and Paul Becksted, not knowing if they really had the right stuff, and they were experimenting.
*79 Schmidtke initially testified that he did not take notes during the interview but later testified that he had taken notes but destroyed them after typing up his post-interview report. No transcription or other documentation of the interview exists aside from Schmidtke’s typewritten report. Inman did not testify at the omnibus hearing. Based upon the evidence presented at the hearing, the omnibus court found that Inman’s statement was “knowing, voluntary, and given with full knowledge of his constitutional rights.” The court then refused to suppress the statement, concluding that the “lack of recording does not rise to the level of a substantial violation where the defendant requested that he not be recorded.”
Schmidtke’s trial testimony was essentially the same as it was at the omnibus hearing; he gave Inman the Miranda warning, Inman agreed to talk if he was not recorded, and Inman then confessed to “cooking meth” with Becksted. After the state rested its case, Inman testified. He agreed that Schmidtke gave him a Miranda warning. He also agreed that he did not want to be recorded. However, he denied that he gave any further information and otherwise disputed the substance of Schmidtke’s testimony:
[Inman]: I told him I didn’t — I don’t want to be recorded. * * * I said, all I care about is my girlfriend’s baby, would be my son, my baby. My daughter was pregnant at the same time. That’s all I care about, my children and my grand-baby.
* * * *
[Counsel] Q: Did you say anything more to the officer after that?
[Inman] A: That I had nothing more to say.
The jury found Inman guilty of the charges of manufacture and possession of methamphetamine.
The court of appeals affirmed the convictions, rejecting Inman’s claim that the omnibus court erred by not suppressing his custodial statement.
State v. Inman,
No. A03-80,
Whether an officer’s failure to record a custodial interrogation is a substantial violation of the
Scales
recording requirement is a legal question, subject to de novo review.
State v. Critt,
We first mandated the electronic recording of custodial interrogations in
State v. Scales,
In the present case, the state argues that Scales is inapplicable because at the omnibus hearing Inman did not dispute the validity of the Miranda warning or his subsequent statement. This argument conflates the issues of applicability and substantiality. The first step is to determine whether Scales applies to the facts before us. If it does, we must then determine whether the Scales violation is substantial.
The
Scales
requirement mandates that all custodial interviews at a place of detention be recorded.
Scales,
*81
Once we determine that
Scales
applies, we next decide whether the violation of the
Scales
requirement is substantial.
Scales,
Inman moved to suppress his custodial statement because it violated the recording requirement of Scales, but he failed to establish at the omnibus hearing that the violation was substantial. In other words, Inman failed to create a factual dispute that would support a judicial determination of a substantial violation of the Scales recording requirement. Had he claimed at the omnibus hearing that a Miranda warning was not given or that he had not waived his Miranda rights, the dispute created by his allegations would have gone directly to the stated purpose of the Scales requirement, and the lack of a recording would have been prejudicial to his case. However, on the record before it, the omnibus court found no evidentiary dispute. The Scales violation in this case does not raise any factual dispute about the existence and validity of a Miranda waiver and was not asserted at the omnibus hearing to be prejudicial to Inman. Therefore, it is not substantial. It was not error for the omnibus court to refuse to suppress Inman’s unrecorded statement where he failed to establish at the omnibus hearing a substantial violation of the Scales recording requirement.
Inman argues that he did raise a factual dispute about whether he waived his Miranda rights because at trial' he testified and denied that he gave a statement. The statement itself was entered into evidence during the state’s case-in-chief and the claimed factual dispute was not created until after the state had rested and Inman had exercised his right to testify. We believe the relevant time to create a factual dispute is at the omnibus hearing where the Scales issue was raised and decided. 5 Inman waived his right to claim a substantial violation of the Scales recording requirement by not creating a factual dispute at the omnibus hearing.
While the omnibus court could not find a substantial violation based on the record before it, its conclusion that “the lack of recording does not rise to the level of a substantial violation where the defendant requested that he not be recorded” is overly broad. But for Inman’s failure to raise a factual dispute at the time of the omnibus hearing, this court could well have found that a substantial violation of the Scales requirement had occurred. If a *82 suspect has a right to request an “off the air” interview, our Scales decision would still require a recording of the Miranda warning, the suspect’s request to have the tape recorder turned off, and an indication that the suspect understood that what he said could still be used against him.
Affirmed.
Notes
. The court of appeals followed previous court of appeals precedent, which held that failure to record in response to a defendant's request, when supplemented by evidence that the officer would have recorded absent the defendant's request, is not a willful violation of
Scales. Inman,
No. A03-80,
. The Model Code of Pre-Arraignment Procedure (MCPAP) provides that "[a] violation shall be deemed willful regardless of the good faith of the individual officer if it appears to be part of the practice of the law enforcement agency * * MCPAP § 150.3(2)(a) (1975).
. We determined that the substantiality of violations would be determined on a case-by-case basis, following the approach recommended by the drafters of the MCPAP.
Scales,
. This initial step does not run counter to this court's statement that
Scales
does not apply where there is no factual dispute “underlying an accused’s claims that the police violated his constitutional rights.”
State v. Williams,
. This determination is consistent with the Supreme Court of Alaska's decision in
Stephan
v.
State,
