delivered the opinion of the Court.
*115 This is an original proceeding for a writ in the nature of mandámus to require the district court of Eagle County to furnish petitioner Sherbondy a transcript of his arraignment proceedings and trial. We issued an order to show cause why the transcript should not be furnished. The Attorney General has responded for the district court, and the matter is now at issue.
Sherbondy has been attempting to represent himself both in the trial court and in this court. He has not asked the trial court to appoint counsel. Added to this is the fact that Sherbondy was convicted 32 years ago. Reviewing the situation in toto, we find that we are thus confronted with a rather beclouded and fuzzy picture as to the precise nature of the relief sought by the petitioner.
From the allegation of the pro se petition, supplemented by the response of the People, we are informed that Sherbondy entered a plea of guilty to the charge of murder, and a jury was impaneled to determine whether it be in the first or second degree. Sherbondy was 17 years old at the time and was represented by retained counsel. A jury on December 20, 1937, returned a verdict of first degree murder. Because of his age, Sherbondy could not be given any penalty other than life imprisonment, and he was so sentenced by the court.
Sherbondy first petitioned the trial court on November 15, 1957, for a free transcript of the proceedings surrounding his arraignment and trial. This was denied. He waited approximately ten years, and on May 8, 1967, filed a “Motion for Stenographic Transcript of Proceedings and Common Law Records.” This was denied. On April 23, 1968, a motion under Colo. R. Crim. P. 35 (b) was filed with the trial court, and summarily denied. No appeal to the denial of that motion has been taken by Sherbondy.
We are not unmindful of our pronouncements in
Peirce v. People,
Additionally, it would be difficult to determine without a transcript how effectively he was represented by counsel; whether his guilty plea was knowingly and voluntarily entered; and whether his waiver of a jury trial on the issue of his guilt was with full knowledge of his rights. What antecedent warnings were given by the court in 1937 can only be determined by a transcript of the arraignment proceedings.
He thus, it seems to us, is in a vicious circle — unabie to put into a petition the matters and things which we stated in Peirce and Carr are required, and being denied a transcript because he has not asserted any of those grounds. The Peirce and Carr cases did not involve a gap of 32 years to handicap them.
Therefore, based on the particular situation involved in this application, it is the order of this court that the district court of Eagle County grant Sherbondy’s petition for a free transcript of the proceedings at the time of the court acceptance of his plea of guilty as *117 well as of the trial in which the determination of the degree of the offense was made. After the preparation thereof the court is ordered to appoint counsel for Sherbondy to assist him in a review of the proceedings for a determination as to whether grounds for possible application for relief exist.
The rule is made absolute.
