This is аn appeal from a judgment on a court finding of guilty of child molesting, a Class C felony. Appellant was sentenced to prison for a term of three years. The conviction was affirmed on appeal to the Fourth District of the Court of Appeals. The opinion of that court was not published. Appellant's petition to transfer to this Court is granted and the opinion of the Court of Appeals is vacated.
There are two appellate claims. In the first, the trial court's ruling that the child victim was competent to testify аs a witness for the prosecution is questioned; and in the second, the sufficiency of the evidence to convict is questioned.
The general provision of the statutes in refеrence to the competency of witnesses is found in I.C. 34-1-14-5. The part *1223 of that provision relevant to the first claim before us provides that children under ten years of age shаll not be competent witnesses "unless it appears that they understand the nature and obligation of an oath."
Construing this provision, it was decided in Martin v. State (1969),
The claim on appeal here relates to the first part of the test and challenges the sufficiency of the basis for the court's determination that this child appreciatеd the difference between telling a lie and telling the truth. The child was called as a witness by the prosecution and the following dialogue was recorded:
QUESTIONS BY THE COURT:
Q How old are you?
A Six (6).
Q Six (6)? You can lower yоur hand. Do you go to Sunday School?
A First (Ist) grade.
Q Your [sic] in the first (Ist) grade at school. What school do you go to?
A School Fourteen (14).
Q School Fourteen (14)?
A Yeah.
Q And where do you live? Where do you-do you know where you live, the house address.
A On Walcott.
Q On Walcott Street? And how long have you lived there?
A About (unintelligible)
Q You don't know? Do you have any brothers and sisters?
A Two (2) brothers.
Q Two brothers? names? What are their
A Mikie and Robert.
Q Mikie and Robert?
A Yeah.
Q Do you know what is, the difference between a, to tell the truth and to tell a lie?
A Yeah.
Q Can you tell me what the difference is?
A (No audible response).
Q What? Can you tell me?
A A lie is the same (unintelligible), um, uh, ...
Q You have to speak up a little bit louder.
A Lying is the same as stealing and sneaking.
Q Lying is the same as stealing? And what's-is that good or bad?
A Bad.
Q And if you tell the truth, is that good or bad?
A Good.
Q Good? And if you promise to tell me the truth, will you tell me the truth?
A Yeah.
Q What happens if you don't tell the truth?
A I'd go back there to jail.
Q You could go to-you know that something bad could happen to you.
A (No audible response) THE COURT: Okay, do you have any other questions on qualifying the witness? MS. MeCONAHA: No, Your Honor. THE COURT: Defеnse, do you have any? MR. SOLOMON: Yes, Judge. (And thereupon, Mr. Solomon approached the witness stand, but did or said nothing else.)
*1224 THE COURT: Well, just ask questions about her, whether she understands the nature of thе oath, if you have something like that.
QUESTIONS BY MR. SOLOMON, Defense Counsel
Q Dorothy, do you know the, uh, difference between telling the truth and telling a lie?
A (No audible response)
Q You do?
A (No audible response)
Q What is the difference?
MS. MeCONAHA: Your Honor, these questions have been asked by the Court.
THE COURT: Yeah, these are-this is repetitious. We've gone over that.
MR. SOLOMON: Repetitious, Your Honor?
THE COURT: Yes.
MR. SOLOMON: Be that as it may, Your Honor, I would move to, uh, disqualify the witness.
THE COURT: That will be overruled. We'll find the witness is competent to testify. State want to proceed?
Appellant argues that the trial court never did get a definitive response to his question "Can you tell me what the difference (between to tell the truth and tо tell a lie) is?" and in the absence of that or its equivalent, the first component of the test, namely that there is an understanding of the "nature" of an oath, is not satisfied.
The State аrgues that the judge would have observed the witness's physical motions and demeanor at the time the record indicates that the witness made "no audible response." We do nоt find this to reflect a tenable view of the record.
In Johnson v. State (1977),
In this case, the trial court based its finding that the child understood the differenсe between truth and falsehood upon this:
Q Do you know what is, the difference between a, to tell the truth and to tell a lie?
A Yeah.
Q Can you tell me what the difference is?
A (No audible response).
Q What? Can you tell me?
A A lie is the same (unintelligible), um, uh,...
Q You have to speak up a little bit louder.
A Lying is the same afs] stealing and sneaking.
In this instance, the court correctly sought to find out whethеr the child knew that a true statement conforms to fact or reality and a false one does not. The court correctly perceived a child, in order to know the nаture of an oath, must, in addition to appreciating the moral content of true and false statements, know what a true statement actually is. The court further correctly рerceived that, for this additional requirement to be satisfied, more than making a flat statement like "I know what the truth is" would be required of a small child. For in the case of a small child, the term "truth" may have many connotations, including simply what parents or other persons in authority may say. However, the trial court's effort in this regard fell short. Head v. State (1988), Ind.,
The trial court was in error in refusing to permit defense counsel the opportunity to question the child regarding her understanding of truth or to do so himself. The qualification of the child on the basis of this colloquy was an abuse of discretion. However it is not every error or abuse of discretion which warrants reversal of a judgment of conviction. Only when the abuse of discretion affects the substantial right of a party or is inconsistent with substantial justice is reversal warranted. Ind.R.Tr.P. 61. Here, the trial court permitted defense counsel wide latitude when cross-examining the child. The examination of her was extensive and challenging. During it, she provided an ample basis for inferring that she knew that a true statement is one which comports with fact and reality. This occurrеd when she was questioned on the subject of bed wetting. She explained that when her mother inquired about whether she had wet the bed, she would respond truthfully and tell her when she and her bed hаd been wet. This subsequent proof at trial supplied the missing element of the preliminary determination that the witness was competent to testify. Speck v. Kenoyer (1905),
The gravamen of the offense of child molesting is the fondling or touching of a child under twelve years of age with intent to arouse or satisfy one's sexual desires. 1.0. 85-42-4-8. Appellant next contends thаt the evidence serving to prove the fondling element and his intent to arouse or satisfy sexual desires was insufficient.
In resolving an appellate claim of eviden-tiary insufficiency, this Court does not weigh the evidence or resolve questions of credibility, but looks solely to the evidence and reasonable inferences therefrom which suppоrt the finding. Smith v. State (1970),
The conviction is affirmed.
