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People v. Weger
59 Cal. Rptr. 661
Cal. Ct. App.
1967
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*1 Dist., 5, 1967.] Div. Two. June No. 13090. Second [Crim. W. PEOPLE, Appellant, THE Plaintiff and CHESTER Respondent. WEGER, Defendant and *3 City Prosecutor, Press, and David Gentry, Assis- Byron B. Appellant. for Plaintiff and Prosecutor, City tant Attorney General, James, William Lynch, E. Thomas C. Attorney General, Younger, J. District Evelle Attor- Assistant ney, Harry Sondheim, Deputy B. District Harry Wood (Los City Attorney Roger Arnebergh, Angeles), Attorneys, City Attorney, and Grey, Assistant Melvin L. Jen- Philip E. City Attorney, as Amici Curiae on Deputy behalf of sen, Appellant. Plaintiff Wirin, A. Fred Okrand Neiman, L. and Laurence Allen I. Respondent. Defendant and for Sperber

R. People pro June 1966 the McCOY, tem.*In filed a J. Municipal for the Court Pasadena Judicial complaint in the with a violation of charging defendant District, Penal The trial Code. court sustained (e) of section (Pen. the case and ordered demurrer dismissed. defendant’s Appellate Depart appeal 1008.) On Code, § Angeles County Superior Los affirmed ment certified case to this court. of dismissal and judgment impor transferred order to settle an the case ordered We law. question of tant constitutionality question us is the of sec only before (e), of the Penal Code. That section 647, subdivision tion provides Every person part:11 who commits in relevant disorderly conduct, guilty of following shall be acts upon or wanders (e) . . Who loiters . misdemeanor: apparent place place without reason or from streets identify himself and to account and who refuses business *4 do, requested by any peace officerso to presence when surrounding such as to indicate to a circumstances are if *Assigned by Judicial Council. Chairman of the

588 public safety man that the demands such reasonable identification. 1 guilt We are not ’ concerned with the or innocence of defendant. We hold that the law constitutional and is that judgment dismissing must action be reversed. “ presumption note at the outset that there is a We invalidity legislative and constitutionality, favor of of a can must be clear before it be declared act unconstitutional.” (Patton Bree, 606, Cal.Rptr. v. La 622, 60 608-609 Cal.2d [35 pointed People Superior 398].) 387 P.2d “As out v. ‘judicial 288, 10 298 (1937), Cal.2d P.2d deci [4] [73 that all presump with declarations to the effect sions abound validity favor the of statutes; tions and intendments judicial by government branch of the mere doubt to the validity not afford statute will a sufficient reason for a invalidity. judicial (In declaration of its . . .’ [Citations.]” Cregler, Cal.Rptr. re 308, 289, P.2d language are to so if their 305].) construed, “Statutes valid permits, as to render them and constitutional rather Angeles and Los (County than invalid unconstitutional. Legg, 5 Cal.2d 206]; Cal.Jur.2d, Stat ” p. 624.) utes, Municipal Court, Ehrlich v. 55 Cal.2d § Cal.Rptr. 758, 360 “Statutes must be unconstitutionality clearly, upheld unmistakably appears.” positively their unless re Huddleson, Cal.App.2d Cal.Rptr. 581].) 618, 621 [40 (e) Section subdivision not

Constitutionally Vague and Uncertain Defendant contends Code, vague of the Penal uncertain and fails to estab- clearly deprives defined guilt lish standards of and thus him process opinion and all others due of law. our this is not . contention tenable. Supreme consistently Court of the United “has States precision lack held that is not itself offensive to the re- quirements process. of due ‘. . . does Constitution [T]he impossible require ’; all required standards that is is that the ‘conveys sufficiently language warning pro- definite as to the scribed when conduct measured understanding common (Stats. adopted 560.) 1Seetion was in 1961. ch. Subdivision (e). Bruno, People Cal.App.2d this section was considered in Supp. Cal.Rptr. 458], People Wilson, Cal.App.2d 447 675 Cal.Rptr. Kraps, and was noted However, 89]. neither of these deal cases with the consti tutionality of the section.

589 7, 8 Petrillo, 332 1, U.S. . United States practices. . .’ (Roth v. United 1883, 1882, 67 S.Ct. 1877, 1538]. L.Ed. [91 1510-1511, 77 1498, 491 S.Ct. 476, L.Ed.2d States, 354 U.S. [1 sufficiently defi must be “A criminal statute 1304].) required who would conduct to one give notice of nite to judge application guide in its and to penalties, avoid its charged defending with its violation. lawyer in one and the symbols, possess precision of mathematical few words But deal untold and unforeseen variations must with statutes most discharg situations, practical of and the necessities in factual government inevitably specificity ing limit the business of spell prohibitions. legislators can Conse which out certainty degree can be than a reasonable of quently, more (1952) 342 (Boyce Motor Lines v. United States demanded." 371, 329].) 72 367, L.Ed. S.Ct. 337 U.S. [96 ‘‘ require that Similarly held in this state it has been certainty espe degree legislation, a reasonable of ment of cially law, in the criminal is a well established element may required process at guarantee due of law. ‘No one be liberty property speculate meaning peril life, as to the penal All statutes. are entitled to be informed as to what ... “a or forbids statute either State commands doing vague requires the of an act terms so forbids or necessarily guess intelligence must at its men of common violates first meaning application, and differ as to its ’ (Lanzetta process Jersey, v. New due of law.” essential of 888, 890, 59 451, L.Ed. S.Ct. see also 306 U.S. 618] [83 Co., Connolly 385, v. General Constr. U.S. L.Ed. [70 328, 126].) also the law of the State 322, S.Ct. Such is McCaughan, (People 409, 49 Cal.2d California. (In Newbern, 786, 792 974].)" re P.2d P.2d Cal.2d 116].) Cal.Rptr. O, 128, 489, In In re De 59 Cal.2d La 705], it “Words used in a 98 A.L.R.2d is said: ordinarily according statute to be construed to the context are 13), (Civ. approved usage language’ Code, and ‘the § employs sufficiently if it certain words and ‘a statute “notwithstanding meaning, long usage a common law or with an element of might differ" word as adhered to these Cal.2d used [8] degree ’ rules, (Lorenson v. particular in the adding statute definition as to which estimates Superior page ” 398 P.2d may 299 that People Victor, 62 “a relative admittedly a (1950) 35 court one; depends full of where man’s fate ‘the law is instances but jury subsequently estimating rightly, is, on his (Nash degree.’ matter of v. United it, States estimates some (1913) L.Ed. S.Ct. 229 U.S. 780].)” degree presence an element of short, the ute will in words be process. statutory meaning rejected, tion.] would the restricted with 196 lation lest inquiries Cal.App.2d 618, apparent 391].) certain them definition of the words 203, Victor, 62 Cal.2d *6 Civil Liberties Union the evil given to the statute. practical 218 by light in their It be have a broad We ‘ ‘‘ the not be will be object [9] into the language defeated their sought Reasonable reference to of the turn now In 467 Legislature construction “The [28 interpretation doing so we are language restricted purposes be too held void for 624 upheld objective sought to be averted. Cal.Rptr. the statute though meaning by construing insufficiently 632 complexities v. Board to a and also P.2d certainty [16 if used require other definable sources.’ Cal.Rptr. employed by sense, consideration its terms can be Cal.Rptr. 711].) 256].)” (In of words.” 700, will be will “does uncertainty if any reasonable latter [42 required easily a whereas (Wotton Education certain to 379 given them restricted meaning, be all that is to be 581].) Cal.Rptr. 199, the preferred not of itself render the subserved a nullified P.2d the draftsmen practical achieved its social of the “to (People be made re a principal be their broad language.” 4].)” comply required. Bush (1953) read Huddleson, problems and the by words used in by by construction “Where the v. more the statute overrefined reasonably construing (American (People 398 59 Cal.2d it "with Vaughn, as well A stat if object broad sense, [Cita usual legis dealt P.2d due 229 41 v. meaning. meaning But a narrow or restricted should if it would result given a word evasion of the evi act, meaning pre or if a broader purpose of would dent carry purpose.” Cal.Jur.2d, out the vent evasion 648.) Statutes, 140, p. § lengthy prob- Legislature, study a In 1961 the after (see Assembly Reports, Interim Committee lems involved repealed 647 of (1961)) former section the Penal No. Code present adopted (Stats. 1961, its form. ch. section “vagrancy” crime of 647 classified 560.) Former misdemeanor.2 as a present enacting the former section repealing urged by principal recognized, as Legislature section, the had come to aban section, the time new draftsman of don the section “for statutes concept of the former vagrancy decent, just fair and a notions of harmonize will justice and which will the same criminal administration departments discharge their possible for time make responsibilities . . .” In straightforward manner Pro “by drafting legisla Sherry’s words, this was done fessor proscribed with the acts to be will describe . . . which tion hazy penumbra free of and which will be precision existing characteristic of social control ideas of medieval Vagabonds—Old Rogues and Vagrants, Con (Sherry, law.” (Oct. 1960) 567; cepts Revision 48 Cal.L.Rev. in Need of Reports (1961) Assembly No. Interim Committee and see ; Cal.App.2d Supp. 859-860 pp. People Bruno, 7-19 458].) Cal.Rptr. defined mean ‘loiter’ been ‘To be slow in “The word has lag (Webster’s delay; linger; saunter; behind’ New moving; (2d ed.) Dictionary (1941) see State Starr International linger idly 356, 357]) by or ‘to 57 Ariz. Phillips Municipal way, Cal.App. to idle’ 548]).” (In Huddleson, re 2d App.2d 229 Cal. 621-622 The Random Dictionary English Language (unabr. 1966) ed. House linger aimlessly aimlessly “loiter” is defined as “1. to or as if place: slow, manner; ... 2. to move idle or about stops purposeless trip, of a journey, course make “While taken itself and in errand, etc.” its broad *7 carry meaning no criminal implications, the term never employed penal a statute considered in such theless context, may wrongful statutory import. sinister, have a or criminal ” Huddleson, p. (In supra, re 622.) [Citations.] others, Every that, among person 647 declared “3. 2Former section who place place any business; or, Every roams about from without lawful 4. pickpocket, thief, burglar operator, known to be a or confidence by by confession, having any either offenses, Ids own or been convicted of such having support, no visible or lawful means of when found loitering any landing, depot, banking around steamboat railroad insti tution, office, place amusement, room, store, shop broker’s auction or or thoroughfare, car, any omnibus, public gathering crowded or or or, assembly; Every person . . . 6. who wanders about the streets at night, any business; late or unusual hours of the without visible or lawful vagrant . . [i] . s a ...” upheld years considered and the courts have Over proscribing “loitering” constitutionality statutes of various Phillips (See e.g., v. Municipal another. in one context or Wright Cal.App.2d P.2d 548] Cal.App.2d (1956) P.2d Garcia v. 997]; Munro Cal.App.2d 894]; (1958) 161 see also Munro Angeles (1961) 55 Flores v. Los Club Turf Cal.Rptr. 201, 921].) In the court in In re 361 P.2d Cal.Rptr. 289, Cregler, 56 Cal.2d constitutionality upheld of subdivision of former section held It was there that the word “loi 647 of Penal Code. subject many statute and other as used ter” wrongful power regulations “has a sinister or as well aas proscribed implication. definite As the statute reasonable obviously lingering desig connotes the word ‘loiter’ purpose committing oppor crime as places nated tunity may (Pp. 311-312.) In In re discovered.” Huddle son, 229 the court Cregler sustaining constitutionality the provides of section followed (2), “Every person which 647a, subdivision public place or at or near school loiters about who normally congregate vagrant is a ...” or attend children passing that with the “unalloyed, are satisfied We uncomplicated sturdy criminal rogue, character the idle vagrant,” (tenBroek, Family vagabond, Law, the true Part 614, 673-674), longer required we III, 17 Stan.L.Rev. are give meaning “loiter” a restricted the word in order to to sustain the constitutionality of the statute. As tenBroek points out, repealed, section 647 was recast and when re- changed “The offense was enacted name from disorderly roaming . . Mere vagrancy conduct. . about place place by persons without visible from means of longer support forbidden; is no one must also refuse to presence identify himself and account for his when re- surrounding by peace so, officerto do ‘if the circum- quested are such man stances as to indicate to reasonable that the ’ ” (P. 673.) public safety demands such identification. applies just word What we said about “loiter” have “wander” equally “wander.” its broad sense to the word purpose objective; means: “1. to ramble without a definite or go indirectly, rove, stray: aimlessly, 2. or roam, ... English casually.” Dictionary (The Random House Language (unabr. 1966).) ed. does written, As now *8 upon wandering the streets or from loitering and make not apparent reason or without business place without place to the words do not As there used offense. punishable unlawful amore Drew, (City v. Wn.2d activity. Seattle connote - They more than describe the do no 522, identify himself peace officerto by a may asked person who prescribed circum presence his account and to “loiter” and “wander” are words used the As so stances. intelligence must neces men of common vague that not so application. meaning to their and differ as guess at their sarily (La 451, 453 L.Ed. Jersey, New U.S. nzetta Harriss, U.S. 618]; United States S.Ct 808].)3 74 S.Ct. L.Ed. 617 [98 that the statute is uncon contends also Defendant gives the loiterer or wanderer no stitutionally vague that it identify must “to himself or to guidance what he do toas ” agree. not We do presence. account for commonly accepted may to mean- again, we look Here, College According American Dic- ing to the the words. being “identify” particular means to “establish as tionary, purported prove or person thing; attest or to be or according College “Identification,” Law Dic- asserted.” person thing person that a or is the or tionary means “Proof supposed represented to thing it is or be.” or] [he N.W.2d involved a Evjue, 253 Wis. 146 State publication prohibited identity of a “the statute which subjected any raped similar have been or female who (P. N.W.2d].) holding assault ...” criminal “identity” used not unconstitu- as there was that the word (p. tionally vague indefinite the court said or N.W.2d]) ‘identity’ is a word art in : “The word adjective noun ‘Identity’ is a and from it the ‘identical’ law. Things they when are are said to be identical is derived. equal. identify identity same, equivalent, To to establish the something described, claimed, or prove of; to the same Identity is defined as sameness of essential or asserted. generic examples instances; limit in different character in all approached by increasing similarity; sameness objective thing. (Webster) reality With constitutes the respect persons identifying most common means Bruno, agree 3We do not with the court “wandering” Supp. 860-861 as used (e) purposes,” section even “consists of for evil movement question. the absence constitutional by them name, but that is means only method employed. Any knowledge which is or information which recipient distinguish enables the referred ’’4 *9 affords a means of identification. for” To “account is defined Webster’s Third Dictionary meaning: New International as . . to furnish convincing substantial or a explanation; reasons make or clear reveal basic causes.” the context of section subdivi (e), it, sion read presence as we to account one’s is, for integral part substance, an identification there required.5 appear directly While there to be no eases in point, arewe phrase satisfied that reasons above, for the discussed “to presence” account for his as used in section subdivision (e), given lay meaning, is to its be and that so construed is it constitutionally vague (See Dominguez and indefinite. City County Denver, 661], & 147 Colo. Validity Notes, “Satisfactory Account” Clauses Of (Klahr), 284.) Vagrancy Ordinances Ariz.L.Rev. We do not Margeson, F.Supp. think that States v. United 256, is persuasive authority contrary. to the fundamentally, defendant contends that the More is statute vague unconstitutionally may for because the crime which he dependent prosecuted subjective on be is discretion of the interrogate support peace him. In officer who seeks of this primarily concurring opinion on contention he relies v. Louisiana, Black in Cox 379 U.S. Justice L.Ed.2d 575 [13 487, 498, 476], 825S.Ct. said that a where he statute provide government which “does not for unconstitutional government by clearly laws, but rather defined for opinions policeman of a on his moment-to-moment beat.” (379 501; p. 579, p. 13 L.Ed.2d U.S. at at see also Shuttles Birmingham, 176, 179, L.Ed.2d worth v. U.S. 86 S.Ct. (e),

We that section subdivision do not believe can be U.S. 536 Louisiana, so construed. In 471, Cox L.Ed.2d the court held that the statute under S.Ct. which Diaz, Cal.App.2d 799, 4In was that, held of a case disclosure of the circumstances trial, identity necessary was to a fair mere disclosure of an. informer identifying enough. further information was not his name without that, 5It as seems clear to us used public safety concluding phrase, identification" "such demands obligation imposed request back to the on the of whom refers ' ‘ ’’ identify presence. is made himself and to account for convicted, prohibiting obstruction had been defendant because it passages, was unconstitutional public streets regula in local discretion officials “unfettered vested parades peaceful and meet for use of the streets tion of the “ ’’ is, undisputed course, ings. It said, however: The court discretion, properly drawn limited under appropriate, that statutes or place, duration, concerning time, or ordinances, public assemblies of use of the streets manner vested provided that such limited officials, administrative “uniformity treat of method of ‘exercised with discretion improper upon application, each free from the facts of ment from unfair discrimina inappropriate considerations or just “systematic, consistent and tion” . . . with] [and the convenience treatment, with reference to order of ’ Hampshire, highways. v. New . . .” Cox public use of the p. p. 576, 85 L.Ed. at A.L.R. supra, 312 at U.S. 486.) p. p. (379 558, 13L.Ed.2d at 1396.” U.S. peace (e), permits a 647, subdivision Section upon stop wanders the streets “without who or one loiters require “identify apparent business,” and him to reason *10 only presence” for his “if the sur and to account himself rounding as to indicate to a circumstances are such reason^ffie public safety such identification.” In man that the determining demands constitutionality enactment we arc of this the entirety. in its we required read, read it So are satisfied to constitutionally appropriate, limited in that it vests discretion peace this the officersof state. provision original Admittedly, the in the draft of sec the requiring identify himself and tion the loiterer to account for principal presence was conceived draftsman to be his peace authority long with the officershave consistent Sherry says in possessed in California. As Professor footnote “ page in 48 72 to article Law Review at 571: A California private person’s in in the earliest case which the dictum respond police responsibility inquiry dis to reasonable to suspicious point respect in ‘A to loiterer: cussed proper police right inquiry to make in a has a manner upon public at a hour as to his anyone streets late surroundings if identity presence, of his the occasion public man that the as to indicate to a reasonable are such Gisske v. Sanders safety demands such identification.’ later, Cal.App. 13, P. Tears the California 16 [98 People adopted in Supreme Simon this conclusion Although held was (1955) Cal.2d 531].” (p. 650) involved

in v. Simon that the search there case, in the court not reasonable the circumstances of was course, is, nothing point out that was careful to “There persons questioning an outdoors at in officer’s unreasonable night possible that in circumstances [citations], it is some evidence, would, light of other a refusal answer even to (See Sanders, Cal.App. justify supra, an arrest. Gisske surrounding 17.)” phrase, . . if circum- “. man that such as to indicate to a reasonable stances are identification,” public was included safety such demands in 1961 in order to (e), section subdivision as enacted nearly Gisske dictum from make Sanders, upon section “fit more (22 Assembly Interim Com- which it is based.” p. (1961).) Reports, mittee No. opinion our confers peace appropriate

on the officersof the state an limited discre tion which does no to provision. violence constitutional analogous to the discretion This discretion is vested such stop pedestrians officersto motorists ques or on the streets for tioning probable short under circumstances cause to make an arrest. People Mickelson, Cal.Rptr. 18, was decided 1963. (at that case the said court pp. 450-451): consistently have held that circum- “[W]e probable stances short of justify cause may an make arrest still pedestrians stopping an officer’s or motorists on the questioning. streets If the circumstances it, warrant he may self-protection request suspect a alight from an superficial submit automobile search for concealed investigation

weapons. Should the probable then reveal cause arrest, suspect to make an the officer arrest conduct a reasonable page 452, incidental search.” At said: do not court “We believe that our permitting rule temporary questioning detention for conflicts with the Fourth person’s It strikes balance Amendment. between interest immunity from interference and community’s pressure law It equate interest enforcement. wards off *11 investigate reasonable cause to with reasonable cause to arrest, protecting thus from the innocent the risk of arrest when no investigation justified.” than more reasonable This rule People One Coupe, reiterated in v. 1960 Cadillac was 62 Cal.Rptr. 290, Cal.2d 95-96 396 [41 People Cowman, Cal.App.2d v. 109 Cal.Rptr. [35 constitutionally permissible we held that it is for a purpose of interro- stop an automobile peace officerto precon- officer had no occupants when the even gating the occupants conduct a or to arrest the intent either to ceived (p. 117) said We there vehicle. search of the law, an “that officer of decisions is rationale prevent crime, as well peace and to employed maintain right fact, has both the after the apprehend criminals toas suspi- investigation of all reasonable duty make may though fall short the nature thereof even activities cious justify a search of the an arrest or grounds sufficient suspects. Experienced persons effects of or the develop perceive unusual ability to naturally an officers and difficult task suspicious value which is of enormous law-abiding safety citi- security protecting ’’ zens. People Perez, was reached v. same conclusion Cal.Rptr. said at 514], where the court Cal.App.2d 528 [52 stop pedestrian may a or motorist for page 531: “An questioning under probable short cause for circumstances Cal.Rptr. Mickelson, v. 59 Cal.2d (People arrest. suspicious must, however, be some 658].) There 18, 380 with justify such a limited interference even circumstance to (People v. One of movement. freedom an individual’s Cal.Rptr. 290, 396 P.2d Coupe, 62 Cal.2d Cadillac [41 220 Superior Court, Cal. v. 706]; Rptr. Hood precise which it can be There is formula lawfully stopping whether an officer acted determined ‘. . questioning; test is . pedestrian or a motorist for such as would indicate to circumstances are when the position in a that such course neces man like reasonable discharge (People v. One proper of his duties.’ sary in the People Davis, 222 pp. v. Coupe, supra, 95-96; 1960 Cadillac People Porter, Cal.Rptr. 796]; Cal.App.2d 75, Cal.Rptr. 886].) The reasonableness Cal.App.2d 684, 686 [16 depends upon and circum the facts action of an officer’s Cal.App. Alcala, 204 (People v. particular case. stances of People Cal.Rptr. Ingle, Cal.2d 31]; cf. 2d Schader, 62 Cal.Rptr. 14, 348 P.2d 577] 665].) A 401 P.2d mere crimi be involved more, that a hunch, without (People One 1960 activity is, course, insufficient. nal Coupe, supra.)” Cadillac only constitution with the here are concerned We the reasonable ality the statute. We are concerned *12 ness of the arresting officer's action in the defendant. Wheth er his action was necessarily depends reasonable upon the facts and developed circumstances of the case as at the time of (People Perez, trial. 514]; People Cal.App.2d Bird, Cal. Rptr. 501].)

The conclusion we have reached is in accord with the Com mentary Reporters of the 2.02, on section subdivisions (2) (3), of A Pre-Arraignment Model Code of Procedure, Tentative Draft No. submitted to The American Law Insti 2.02, tute in 1966.6 (1) Section of that tentative provides draft stopping persons for the of may who have knowledge be material aid investigation of to the “ (2) of some crime. Subdivisions and (3) (2) Stopping read: Stispicious in Persons A Circumstances. law enforcement of officer lawfully present any place in may, person if a is ob suggest served circumstances which that he has committed felony or is about to commit a or misdemeanor, and such reasonably necessary action is to enable the officer to deter person’s mine the lawfulness of that conduct, per order that place presence son to or near such remain the officer's period twenty for a of not more than (3) minutes. Action to During Stop. Be Taken may Period A law enforcement officer require presence pursuant to remain in his (1) (2) only subsection or of this section insofar as such reasonably necessary (a) action is obtain the identification person; (b) verify by readily of such available information person; (c) request cooperation an identification of such pur subject (d) suant to and to the limitations of 2.01; Section verify by readily available information account of his presence given by per or conduct or other information such ’’ son. commentary section 2.02 their on of the draft tentative reporters say part (p. 93) authority : “Some to inter liberty explic less than reasonable fere with on cause has been itly recognized even the absence of statute the courts in jurisdictions, including number of one Federal Court a Appeals.” constitutionality proposal As to the of the Meeting, After discussion 2.02 extended at the Annual Reporters tentative draft was to the for recommitted reconsideration approval principle "stop with instructions included (34 2641-2644, May 1966.) frisk.” U.S. L. Week reporters’ 7The footnote to reads: "5. United States this statement (2d Vita, 1961), denied, 294 F.2d 529-30 Cir. cert. U.S. (1962) (‘The L.Ed.2d S.Ct. rule Federal R. Crim. 837] [of compelling appear to be 94) “There say (p. : reporters authority persons stop an objections to constitutional investigation. single criminal purpose briefly Supreme Court issue squarely raised before case power, Rios v. constitutionality an exercise of such 1688, 80 S.Ct. L.Ed.2d 364 U.S. States United question. decide the Where such court declined to 1431], the consistently by statute, it has explicitly granted been has been power absence of statute most uph And even eld. *13 recognized issue have which have confronted the courts ’’9 power. validity of such constitutional Privilege Against Claim Self-Incrimination of 647, is subdivision that final contention Defendant’s right an it violates of because unconstitutional himself, against compelled to be a witness be to individual pro- right privacy, and violates due invades the it because opinion these contentions law. areWe cess sustained. cannot “ against applies privilege to The self-incrimination testimony’ accused, or but ‘communications evidence (Peo physical derived from him.” or evidence’ ‘real not to Ellis, 529, 533 385, 65 421 P.2d ple v. Cal.2d cited.) In Ellis it was there held that 393], and authorities ‘‘ fall identification within the eate- results of voice tests The 5(a)] apply to a case in which federal officers detain a Proc. does not question period ’) ; suspect a short and reasonable order to him. for Bonanno, (S.D.N.Y.), E.Supp. v. other States 180 71 rev’d on United Bufalino, (2d grounds v. sub nom. United States 285 P.2d 408 Cir. 1960) 220, (Alaska), ; State, denied, v. 390 P.2d 224 cert. Goss 379 U.S. (‘when 62, stopped L.Ed.2d 85 S.Ct. 118] 859 doing nothing conducting investigation more than an car he was sponse in re People suspicion’); to that aroused Mickel circumstances v. Cal.Rptr. 18, son, 448, (1963); People Cal.2d 30 380 P.2d 658 59 v. Faginkrantz 75, (1960) ; People Henneman, 21 Ill.2d 171 N.E.2d 5 v. (1937); 151, Freeland, 1334, 10 649 State v. 255 367 Ill. N.E.2d Iowa (1964) People Rivera, 441, 825 14 N.Y.2d 125 N.W.2d 32 201 N.E.2d cert, denied, 568, (1964), 379 U.S. 978 L.Ed.2d 85 S.Ct. 679] (1965) ; Zupan, 80, (1929); State 155 Wash. 283 Pac. 671 State v. 424, (1932).” Hatfield, 112 W.Va. S.E. 518 reporters’ Lehan, 8The footnote here reads: ‘‘9. See Commonwealth v. (Mass. 1964), 197] Mass. 196 N.E.2d 840 authorities cited in supra.” State, authorities note The there cited are Cannon v. 53 Del. 284, (1961); State, 550, 168 A.2d De Salvatore v. 52 Del. 163 A.2d (1960); Kavanagh Stenhouse, (1961), 93 R.I. 174 A.2d 560 dismissed, appeal (1962). 368 U.S. [71 L.Ed.2d S.Ct. 529] generally Warner, Act, See Arrest 28 Va. L. Rev. 320- Uniform (1942). reporters 9The here refer to supra,” “authorities cited note 5 quoted 7, supra. in our footnote gory physical of real or evidence.” In v. Sudduth, 65 Cal.Rptr. 393, 421 P.2d 401], the court suspect held that a has right no constitutional to refuse a test 1‘designed produce physical intoxication to evidence sample.” form of a breath In Schmerber California, U.S. L.Ed.2d S.Ct. support cited in

the rule as stated in Ellis and Sudduth, the court held that (p. 914) privilege protects “the an only accused being from compelled testify against himself, to provide or otherwise State with evidence of a testimonial or nature, communicative and that the withdrawal analysis of blood and use of the question in compulsion this case did not involve to these (p. ends.” The court there noted 916) that “both federal and usually state held courts have protection offers no against compulsion to submit fingerprinting, photograph ing, measurements, speak or or to write for identification, to appear court, stand, assume stance, walk, or to particular gesture. amake The distinction which emerged, has expressed in ways, often different is that privilege is a bar against compelling ‘communications’ ‘testimony,’ but that compulsion suspect makes or accused the source of physical ‘real or evidence’ does not violate it.” (e), provides Section that a who, in the stated, circumstances there refuses identify his presence, guilty himself to account for disorderly argues Defendant that the conduct. essential element of the *14 requested by crime here defined is his silence when peace the speak, right officerto and that his protected to remain silent is by put Fifth otherwise, the Amendment. To his contention speak obligation imposed is that the to on him the section compulsory results in in self-incrimination, that thereby he is compelled provide “to the State evidence of a testi (Schmerber monial or communicative nature” v. California, 908, 914, 757 L.Ed.2d 86 1826]), U.S. may S.Ct. which [16 against him at disorderly be used his trial for conduct.10 This argument is not tenable. As we read the authorities, 647, section (e), requiring cannot be construed interrogated by the Respondent Reply Supplemental 10In ’a to Briefs of Amici Curiae say: question 647(e) whether, counsel ant answer “The under is if not the defend charged may crime, is with the another commission of his refusal against him, incriminating be used or an statement he made warning either with or without a Miranda-Hseohedo is admissible 647(e) having The evidence. answered there under ‘crime’ is his not answered. he had If would, presumably charge be no under the section. against is himself. While it peace to he witness the disorderly guilty found conduct he may be if that true he conduct; is mere nonassertive silent, “the silence here remains explanation, failure to an but a offer it is not declaration (People Wilson, pet. one.” which call for circumstances under Cal.Rptr. hearing It held in that Supreme denied.) was Wilson evidence prosecution in his later silence was admissible of defendant’s for burglary. page affirming court, the at the conviction Wilson People Simon, 45 rule, as note of the stated Cal.2d took nothing is, course, “There that questioning persons outdoors at unreasonable in an officer’s possible that in circumstances night [citations], it is some would, light evidence, a refusal answer of other even Then, quoting justify an arrest. after [Citations.]” as enacted the court said: “If 647, subdivision such right interrogate, results of inter is such a there they rogation reflect conduct should be available where on the guilt which tends to establish unless part of defendant prevents supervening policy there is a law which or statements of accused.” court use of conduct supervening policy. reaching that was no such there found part (p. 459): conclusion the court said “Circum this imagined answering type ques stances be where provision against here involved would violate self- tion has extended been incrimination nontestimonial People Dorado, compulsion. supra, p. (See 361], applying Escobedo v. Illi L.Ed.2d (1964) 378 U.S. S.Ct. nois and Rptr. 1758] Stewart, Cal.App.2d 27, supra, Cal. Dorado, however, recognizes: ‘Nothing that we interpreted said, course, should be restrict law have during investigatory stage from officers secur enforcement later accused of the ing information from one who is crime or ’ questions. (62 obtaining p. answers to their Cal.2d at from appears a distinction between facts 354.) So here second Dorado, and De Leon and those of Stewart this case assuming warning Accordingly, arguendo that Miranda-Eseotedo even given assuming not silence be need that or a statement could against prosecuted used the that still is ment is made, the defendant were he for a crime— different one, presumably, stopping questioning was for which the done— being If for it not to no basis a crime have answered. a state- voluntarily made, thing. one But when a statement is quite another.” *15 (46 Cal.Rptr. 241)]. The circumstances here preliminary questions at the time the reflect that the officers did not asked were crime, any, what if know had been com questions designed mitted. The were not to elicit incriminat ing statements, to afford opportunity but the defendant an ’’ explain presence and his actions. suggested

It is that when also a is interro by peace gated officerunder the circumstances delineated in peace (e), required section subdivision officer is right him advise rules of his to remain silent in accordance with the Arizona, in Miranda stated U.S. 436 L.Ed.2d 974], suggestion ignores A.L.R.3d This S.Ct. (16 explicit holding L.Ed.2d 725-726) of Miranda that the principles protection announced “deal with there which given privilege against must be to the self-incrimination when subjected police is first interrogation the individual in while deprived custody at the station or otherwise his freedom way. any significant in . . Our of action . is in decision hamper police the traditional function tended investigating officersin Illinois, Escobedo v. crime. See 378 U.S. 977, 986, 84 L.Ed.2d When an individual S.Ct. probable custody cause, may, in of course, on seek against field be used inquiry trial out evidence him. Such persons include investigation not under re questioning on-the-scene as to facts surround straint. General general questioning of ing a crime or other citizens the fact- process holding. our finding is not affected It is an act of citizenship give responsible for individuals to whatever in they may aid in have to law enforcement. In formation such atmosphere compelling process inherent situations ’' necessarily present. in-custody interrogation is not opinion need There is no to extend this with a discussion of myriad cases in which the Escobedo, rules stated in Do discussed, distinguished rado and Miranda have been enough to applied.11 It is note that we have found none person stopped interrogation by peace hold that forth in circumstances set probable no where cause for arrest and there is there “ arrest, custody deprived is in or otherwise freedom of significant (See way.” Graham, action What is “Cus Interrogationf” 59, 78-92; People todial 14 U.C.L.A. L. Rev. cases, Cotter, The decision Cal.Rptr. one of these April 20, Min 405 P.2d was vacated 1967. See utes, p. 3, A.C., No. 7. *16 Cal.Rptr. 438, 448 Arnold, [6] [58 v. 515].) the in our conclusion that silence are correct If we interrogation provided stopped for as iswho of a conduct” which (e), is ‘‘nonassertive 647, subdivision section Amendment, of the Fifth the ambit not fall within does provided interrogation does not there consti the that follows tute (Cf. privacy. of his invasion an unconstitutional Cal.Rptr. 385, 421 P.2d Ellis,

v. 65 Cal.2d authority found no to sustain the conten have short, we upon streets or from loiters or wanders the who tions one has a apparent reason or con place business place to without right surrounding remain silent when the cir to stitutional peace to a as indicate a as such to cumstances are safety public the demands that he iden man that reasonable People Machel, said in v. As the court tify himself. 1‘ Cal.Rptr. Cal.App.2d 37, the California ‘ permitting temporary questioning for a detention strikes rule person’s immunity from a interest balance between community’s in law interest interference enforce pressure equate It reasonable cause in ment. wards off to to vestigate protecting arrest, reasonable cause to thus risk of innocent arrest when more than from reasonable ’ justified. investigation Mickelson, supra, v. (People Cal. p. 452.) operative it is under 2d at While circumstances short (People Michelson, probable an cause to make arrest suspicious supra) must exist some ‘nevertheless there or un this usual circumstance to authorize limited invasion a even privacy.’ (Hood Superior (1963) citizen’s Cal. ; People App.2d 242, 245 Cowman 782] Cal.Rptr. 528].)” Sec than a (e), tion is no more subdivision codification (People Cal.App.2d 447, Wilson, that rule. Cal.Rptr. 55].) opinion In our of the Penal in 1961is as constitutional. Code enacted dismissing complaint is The order reversed. FLEMING, J.I concur. Angeles County has as its The Bar Association motto Los “Every saying man a Theodore Roosevelt owes profession to upbuilding some of time to the of the his duty belongs.” comparable on the citizen I think rests

he large said, “Every it can citizen owes at some of whom tranquility society to his time to which he ’’ belongs. duty public legal of the citizen assist to author preserving peace firmly ity in been has established for years obligations

hundreds of and is manifest such join posse duty comitatus, assist to and cry, the hue to expose treason, known and to disclose the commission of felon proper authority.1 (Gov. Code, 26600, 26602, 26604; ies to §§ 839; U.S.C.; Code, 38, 150, 4, 2382.) Pen. §§ §§ scope duty require I think it well within this presence identify public account citizen to morning authority when he is abroad 2:30 under safety public circumstances where the demands such identifica- doing positive the citizen makes a contribution tion. so neighborhood by releasing peace tranquility of performance of his duties officerfor the elsewhere. duty identify substantially I find simi- account This *17 highway identify duty on to him- lar the of a motorist the to right highway, to be to demon- his on the self and establish right report safely, that and to his condition to exercise strate personal involving property damage, injury, or accidents 2804, 12951, 20002, 20003, (Yeh. Code, death. §§ identify comparable duty and ac- to the to (a).) It is subd. building superin- the fulfill at the demand of count which we night, which we enter our offices late when we

tendent immigration inspectors and satisfy demand customs at the carry overseas, which we out at the we return from when when we file Internal Revenue our Director of demand of the written, inquisitions, and some- oral tax returns. These income part price vexing, are of the we inconvenient, sometimes times general promote tranquility and the pay insure domestic to welfare. tinction of to thing deed and of their own fact who knows St.Tr. bodied authority him to (8 and it was cry,’ that officer to "Sir Francis " 1 Director impart Wigmore Ever since that that or to the justice. men over hand, so that it; is to imports their degrees, that a on Evidence much levy Public In the thirteenth say, but of the Bacon, duty constable of the steps or of another’s felony hue and owe more, days he had to age Prosecutions, to king’s : 'You must their can to the join has of hue (3d ed.) if cry, be taken they 15 to knowledge been service, king report Countess of that century and be called town: they ought § committed, pursue [1962] tribute and know that all is, 2190, pp. 66-67.) pursuit.” cry, they to the sheriff to to it was his and apprehend whereupon shout aloud ought the offender and arrest A.C. and Trial, has Shrewsbury’s discovery. to make direct answer.’ to (Lord Denning, J., service, 528, 555.) been examined, themselves undemanded report duty subjects, of the the felon and it was the calling ‘ not If it to the to duty there be whether raise hue and county only without dis- the on of a all able- duty of their 2 How. proper Sykes bring it be him: man, any- ” neighbors no duties to one’s and theory one owes that The obligation render to even small assistance to no is under accounting identifying and oneself and

public order releasing peace work, officerfor other derives from a thus another in- exaggerated era, and individualism of an extreme of a Vanderbilt, reflected the statement “The dividualism public damned,’’ similarly reflected strictures government.2 theory against all The Proudhon is essen- of a implies law, to all and it that tially anarchistic hostile public authority relationship comparable citizen to to conquered province army to an of the inhabitants of obligations recognize legal occupation, owed their who relationship with temporary masters and whose them is based entirely society pure on based on law force. But must theory of individualism defer to a reasonable accom- privilege private public modation between interest. When reasonably public safety demands identification at 2:30 in right morning, has no the citizen constitutional to remain anonymous. respect provision Fifth With Amendment compelled person any

which states that no shall be criminal against case to definition a crim himself, be witness its general has include inal case never been extended to investi (People Perez, gation. Rptr. 65 Cal.2d 716-717 Cal. position gen of a under investigation comparable of a witness before to that eral If judicial, legislative, or administrative officer. the witness put questions him will tend feels that to incrim answers against privilege him he claim the self-incrimina inate claimed, privilege he is If the has been well entitled to tian. Burr, 14,692(e), 25 F.Cas.No. (United remain silent. States privilege validly has But until the been (Marshall, C.J.).) duty identify and account continues claimed, his civic (Sullivan 263-264 *18 States, 274 U.S. force. v. United 1040, 607, A.L.R. 1037, 1039, S.Ct. L.Ed. 1020] 2“ regulated, spied on, watched, inspected, governed to be To be censored, by ruled, persons controlled, indoctrinated, preached at, who every to be action and transaction virtue. It neither wisdom nor have registered, assessed, repri licensed, measured, taxed, patented, stamped, good public manded, pretext corrected, it is to Under frustrated. then, embezzled, exploited, monopolized, the least robbed be protest harassed, vilified, up, fined, complaint, beaten to be or word of shot, garroted, disarmed, judged, condemned, imprisoned, bludgeoned, deceived, outraged, sold, betrayed, swindled, That’s deported, dishonored. ’’ (Pierre morality! Proudhon, justice, government, that’s its that’s its 65.) Tower, p. Tuckman, quoted in The Proud (Holmes, J.); Party Communist v. Control Board, 367 1, U.S.

105-110 L.Ed.2d 625, 694, 697, (Frank S.Ct. 1357] furter, J.).) I that conclude Penal Code, section (e), subdivision on draws duty civic unduly infringing without individual right, and is therefore constitutional. HERNDON, Acting P. J.I dissent. Despite my very strong support desire to and sanction and all provisions constitutional designed reasonably law strengthen and increase the effectiveness our law enforce- performance ment officersin the exceedingly their difficult detecting preventing work of age crime in this of increas- ing lawlessness, obliged I feel major to dissent and this for two reasons. persuaded I am judges First that the of the trial court and appellate department of the holdings were correct their question that law here is unconstitutional. In the cir- cumstances of this I deem unnecessary repeat ease it or set reasoning forth herein the appellate the decision of the department. say light Suffice it here to that in the of estab- principles of lished constitutional law, I believe this stat- incompatible held ute will be with the of the dictates Fourth and Fifth to the Amendments federal Constitution. apprehend Secondly, I that even if this law were not vul- grounds, nerable to attack on operation constitutional its complex the context of the entire of constitutional principles Supreme been enunciated have Court would States recent times entail results United more harm- ful than beneficial to the aims of effectivelaw enforcement. example, appear For would given that statements by an apparent response “loiterer” even investiga- to “normal questioning”1 might tory be deemed to given have been penal compulsion under and therefore inadmissible a sub- sequent prosecution of the “loiterer” for the murder or the seeking robbery they pro- which the officerswere to solve when pounded proper investigatory questions.2 their agree I my colleagues am unable to view “is no more than a codification of sanctioning propriety rule” action in [the] Perez, 1Cf. 240]. Garrity Jersey, 2Cf. v. New 385 U.S. 493 L.Ed.2d S.Ct. Spevack Klein, 616] U.S. L.Ed.2d S.Ct. 511. *19 questioning them in cir detaining citizens temporarily appears action in which such situations cumstantial Mickelson, 448, (Cf. People 59 Cal.2d reasonable. Superior Court, 220 648]; Hood v. Cal.Rptr. 18, 380 P.2d People Cal.Rptr. Cowman, v ; Cal.App.2d 242 782] Bird, 248 Cal. Cal.App.2d 109 528] Cal.Rptr. 501].) opinions As author App.2d Bird, obviously complete I am ac Hood, Cowman and enunciated. If section law therein subdivi with the cord presently than ac (e), were no more codification sion compelling would cepted law, decisional there need indicated, As I of this statute. have I fear enactment (e), would not be to effect jeopardize strengthen rather augment but effective present investigatory ques rule which ness of the sanctions tioning. hearing by Supreme

Respondent’s petition for 26, 1967. July denied was Dist., June 5, 1967.] Div. Three. No. 31709. Second

[Civ. JR., WETTELAND, Petitioner, v. WOODROW WINSTON OF LOS COURT ANGELES THE SUPERIOR Respondent. COUNTY,

Case Details

Case Name: People v. Weger
Court Name: California Court of Appeal
Date Published: Jun 5, 1967
Citation: 59 Cal. Rptr. 661
Docket Number: Crim. 13090
Court Abbreviation: Cal. Ct. App.
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