OPINION OF THE COURT
Memorandum.
The order of the Appellate Division should be reversed and the case remitted to the Appellate Division, Fourth Department, for determination of the facts in accordance
As the dissenters below held (see
There can be little doubt that the court did so here. It determined that defendant was an adult who had been involved in the criminal process before, that he had a lawyer with whom he had discussed his decision, who advised against it and who was available as standby counsel throughout the trial. The court warned defendant forcefully that he did not have the training or knowledge to defend himself, that others who had done so had been unsuccessful and that if he insisted upon appearing pro se he would be held to the same standards of procedure as would an attorney. Defendant nevertheless insisted on proceeding pro se and on this record there was a sufficient showing that his decision was knowing and voluntary.
Order reversed and case remitted to the Appellate Division, Fourth Department, for further proceedings in accordance with the memorandum herein.
