Defendant appeals from an order denying his motion (1) to vacate a judgment, rendered in the afternoon of April 7, 1958, which sentences him to state prison and (2) to reinstate a county jail sentence announced in the morning arid “rescinded” in the afternoon of that day. He contends that the judgment is void under the italicized portion of the following rule stated in
People
v.
McAllister
(1940),
The People urge that the order denying defendant’s motion is not appealable because his contention could have been raised by appeal from the judgment of conviction. Also they urge that clause [2] of the rule stated in the McAllister case is not applicable to the facts of this case, and that literal application of clause [3] would give defendant the undeserved benefit of a technicality which did not prejudice him.
For the reasons hereinafter stated we have concluded that the order is appealable. Consideration of the merits of the appeal leads to the further conclusion that the superior court had power to set aside the jail sentence and impose the prison sentence and that it did not err in the exercise of such power.
Defendant was charged with possession of heroin in violation of section 11500 of the Health and Safety Code and with having suffered a previous conviction of violating the same section and having served a state prison term therefor.He pleaded not guilty and he and counsel for both parties waived a jury trial. Defendant was tried in a Santa Monica Department of the Los Angeles County Superior Court. On March 17, 1958, the court found him guilty of the substantive offense, received in evidence a certified copy of the record of his prior conviction and imprisonment, and continued the question of disposition of the allegation of such prior conviction to April 7, 1958, the date set for hearing on defendant’s application for probation. Defendant was remanded without bail and confined in the Los Angeles County main jail. (This jail, and the main office of the county clerk where judgments of all Los Angeles Superior Courts are entered, are in the Civic Center, City of Los Angeles. As will appear, the facts of geographical distance between the sentencing court and courtroom clerk on the one hand and the main jail and clerk’s office on the other hand have practical relation, in circumstances such as those here, to the determination, of the time when the court loses jurisdiction to change a valid sentence.)
On the morning of April 7 a deputy sheriff brought defendant from the Los Angeles jail to the Santa Monica court. Without mention of the previous conviction (and therefore without determination of the issue of fact which had been reserved for decision at this time) the court denied probation and sentenced defendant to six months in jail. A notation *526 of this sentence was made by the clerk in what he termed his “rough notes” but such sentence was not entered in the minutes. A deputy clerk who acted as the courtroom clerk’s assistant prepared a remanding order, directed to the county sheriff, which states: “The court having remanded the above named defendant, you are now authorized to hold said defendant pending such further disposition as the court may order”; “No Bail”; “6 Months County Jail.” The deputy sheriff began the transportation of defendant back to the jail. We assume that the remanding order went with them.
The courtroom clerk testified, at the hearing on the motion to vacate, that “ [0]n April 7th, which is Monday, our criminal calendar day, we normally have fifty, sixty, or even more cases, and in the press of the morning, no one . . . caught the fact that the prior had not been disposed of [until after the deputy sheriff had left with the defendant, but] ... As I was about to prepare the minutes from my rough notes to be transmitted to the Criminal Division of the County Clerk’s Office [in the Civic Center, City of Los Angeles], I noticed that a prior had not been disposed of on Robert Thomas.” The clerk called the omission to the attention of the prosecuting attorney, defendant’s counsel, and the judge, all of whom were still in the courtroom or chambers, and telephoned the sheriff’s office and asked that defendant be returned to the Santa Monica court as soon as he arrived at the jail.
Defendant reached the jail at 3 :15 p. m. and was checked out for return to court at 3:35 p. m. At 3:39 p. m., after defendant had left the jail, the above described remanding order was received at the sheriff’s booking office of the jail. Thus defendant, so far as the sheriff’s records disclose, was at no time held in the jail in service of the jail sentence which had been pronounced at the morning session of the court.
At 4:50 p. m. defendant, with counsel, again appeared in the Santa Monica court. The court stated, “This morning . . . , through the busyness of the calendar, I overlooked the fact that this defendant had a prior narcotics conviction.” (Inferentially, the judge meant that he had overlooked disposing of the allegation and issue as to the prior conviction.) Defendant admitted that he had suffered the prior conviction (sale of marijuana) and that he was “presently on parole” therefor. The court announced, “The sentence this morning is rescinded” and sentenced defendant to prison, with the *527 finding that the alleged prior narcotics conviction is true. 1 Judgment reciting this finding and imposing the prison sentence was entered in the minutes. Two weeks after the time for appeal from the judgment had passed, defendant, through new counsel, noticed the motion above described and, as stated, he now appeals from the order denying such motion.
To the statutory rule that “An appeal may be taken by the defendant . . . from any order made after judgment, affecting the substantial rights of the party” (Pen. Code, § 1237, subd. 3), there is a well established qualification upon which the People rely: Ordinarily no appeal lies from an order denying a motion to vacate a judgment of conviction on a ground which could have been reviewed on appeal from the judgment.
(People
v.
Bowles
(1933),
*528
Defendant relies upon
People
v.
Walker
(1901),
The remedy here sought is available, however, because the basis of defendant’s attack on the judgment is that it is void. Fundamental jurisdictional defects, like constitutional defects, do not become irremediable when a judgment of conviction becomes, final without appeal (or even after affirmance on appeal; see
Mooney
v.
Holohan
(1935),
When the question of jurisdiction is presented by motion to vacate and by appeal from the order of denial, the appellate court’s determination as to the appealability of the order will ordinarily depend upon its decision of the merits of the appeal, i.e., upon its determination whether there was indeed a jurisdictional defect. But where, as here, the appellant in good faith presents serious jurisdictional problems, we think it is appropriate, not to dismiss the appeal, but rather to affirm the order appealed from with a statement that our action in this regard is not to be considered general authority for the appealability of an order which denies a motion to vacate a judgment on grounds which could have been presented on appeal from the judgment. (See
People
v.
Ramirez
(1934),
We now turn to the question whether the trial court lacked jurisdiction to vacate the first and impose the second sentence. In the McAllister case (1940),
supra,
Clause [1] of the rule stated in McAllister and quoted
ante,
pp. 524-525 is the California version, adapted to the operation of our courts (which, since adoption of our 1879 Constitution, no longer have terms), of the common law rule that ordinarily a court can change its judgment during the term at which it was rendered but not thereafter. (See
Ex parte Monckros Von Vetsera
(1907),
Here, as in the McAllister ease, page 527 of 15 Cal.2d, we are not confronted with any problem of asserted failure by the clerk to perform his duty of entering the judgment “within a reasonable time”; “Usually the practice of the courts of this state is for the clerk to make up his minutes following the adjournment of the court for the day. [Concerning a related problem of
entry
as distinguished from
making up
the material to be entered, in a large county, see
Wilson
v.
Los Angeles County Employees Assn.
(1954),
Clause [2] of the McAllister case, quoted
ante,
pp. 524-525, represents a familiar rule, said to be in accord with the “weight of authority” in this country (see annotation (1947),
Nor does it appear that defendant had begun service of the county jail sentence under tests which have been suggested in answer to the question “What constitutes commencement of service of sentence, depriving court of power to change sentence” (annotation (1945),
Furthermore, under California procedure, after pronouncement of a judgment of imprisonment the sheriff continues to detain the prisoner, whether or not such officer has a copy of a paper stating that the prisoner is to be held under such judgment, until he is discharged in legal manner. E.g., the sheriff here held defendant under the remanding order which noted the county jail sentence that had been pronounced ; if no such remanding order had been made, the sheriff would have continued to hold defendant under the prior order which remanded him without bail pending the probation and sentence hearing; even if a judgment invalid on its face had been entered, as in
Ex parte Walker
(1901),
If throughout the day when the sentence of this defendant was changed, the sheriff, because of administrative problems connected with transportation, had continued to hold defendant in Santa Monica, where the sentencing court sat, it seems clear that defendant would have remained in the power of the court, exercised through its ministerial officer, the *533 sheriff. In the circumstances here presented we think that the sheriff, in moving defendant about the county, and into and out of the jail, under an order which authorized him “to hold said defendant pending such further disposition as the court may order,” continued to act as an officer of the court restraining defendant for the court and did not begin to act as an executive officer carrying out execution of a sentence which had not yet been entered in the minutes.
But, defendant says, he was “restrained” under the original sentence, and clause [3] of the McAllister rule (p. 526 [2] of 15 Cal.2d) states that “if the defendant . . . has been restrained by the sentence imposed, then the court is without jurisdiction to vacate, add to, or in any manner modify the sentence originally pronounced.” This clause [3] was stated to comprehend two decisions
(In re Sullivan
(1906),
That statement was not necessary to the Sullivan and Garrity decisions that the second sentences there attacked were invalid.
7
We have already seen that the statement as
*534
to restraint was dictum as applied to McAllister, who was originally sentenced only to pay a fine. The McAllister dictum of clause [3] has been repeated, still as dictum, in the cases of
In re Pedrini
(1949),
It is further to be observed that the trial judge here, on March 17, 1958, after finding defendant guilty on the substantive charge, expressly continued disposition of the allegation of the prior conviction and of defendant’s application for probation to April 7. In this regard the reporter’s transcript shows the following: “The Court: So far as the priors on both of them [a codefendant was being tried jointly with appellant] are concerned, they are submitted for disposition to the time of the hearing on probation, and the hearing on probation will be April 7th as to each
*536
defendant. The defendants are remanded.” The continuance as to the prior conviction, it may be inferred, was to enable the judge, after he had received the information in the probation report, to consider whether he should find the charge to be true or not true, or whether he might properly strike or dismiss the allegation of the prior conviction (see
People
v.
Burke
(1956), supra,
For the reasons above stated, the order appealed from is affirmed.
Gibson, C. J., Shenk, J., Spence, J., McComb, J., and Peters, J., concurred.
Notes
The punishment for one who, like defendant, is convicted of possessing a narcotic with such a finding of a former conviction is confinement in state prison for not less than two years nor more than 20 years. (Health & Saf. Code, § 11712.)
The Eeid and Shorts cases, and some of the other eases hereinafter cited, are usually indexed, in digests and texts, under
“coram nobis”
rather than under "motion to vacate.” In this state the writ of error
coram nobis,
when sought in the trial court, is a court-made remedy adapted from the common law; it is in effect a motion to vacate the judgment and can appropriately be so designated.
(People
v.
Vernon
(1935),
The Legislature drastically changed the nature of coram nobis and motion to vacate the judgment by its 1949 amendment of Penal Code, section 1265, to provide that when a judgment of conviction has been *528 affirmed on appeal the writ cannot be sought or the motion made in the trial court but application for the writ can be made to the affirming court. But the cases as to coram nobis and motion to vacate are still pertinent to our present inquiry, which concerns attack on a judgment which became final (insofar as a criminal judgment can ever become final)'without appeal.
In a California criminal case, judgment is rendered when sentence is orally announced. (See Pen. Code, $ 1202;
People
v.
Terrill
(1901),
The jail sentence here was valid. (See
People
v.
Burke
(1956),
Literal application of the McAllister rule would forbid mitigation of punishment in circumstances where mitigation is otherwise proper.
(United States
v.
Bens
(1931),
In the morning of March 2, 1936, McAllister was sentenced to pay a fine in installments commencing June 1. In the afternoon of March 2, before this sentence had been entered in the minutes, it was changed to provide for the alternative of imprisonment in the event the fine was not paid. It is apparent that at the time of the alteration McAllister had not begun execution of and had not been restrained under the original sentence.
(Cf. In re Garrity
(1929),
In the Sullivan case it is implicit from, although not expressly-noted in, the opinion that the sentencing court attempted to change a judgment which had been entered in the minutes, for on the day the original judgment was pronounced a commitment in regular form under seal of the court issued; that commitment, presumably, was the “certified copy of the entry thereof upon the minutes” required by Penal Code, section 1213, as it then read. Furthermore, in Sullivan’s case there was a substantial double punishment problem. His original sentence was to pay a $700 fine, with an invalid, severable provision that if the fine was not paid it should be satisfied by imprisonment in the state prison at the rate of $2.00 per day. After Sullivan had been restrained for five days of “dead time” by the sheriff, who was holding him for delivery to state prison, the court attempted to change the sentence by providing for satisfaction of the fine by imprisonment in the county jail at the rate of $2.00 per day. Manifestly, Sullivan suffered five days’ restraint which should have been but were not credited toward satisfaction of his fine.
At the time of the questioned change of sentence as to one of the several counts on which Garrity had been convicted, an application for probation was pending and he had not been committed to the service of any term of imprisonment in execution of judgment on any count. Judgment originally was pronounced on October 31, 1928, and as to the questioned count was for fine only. Concerning the subsequent (or resumed) proceeding on December 6, 1928, the minutes stated, “by *534 stipulation, matter of probation and sentence is reopened, ’ ’ and the court ordered that if the fine was not paid by December 20 defendant should be remanded to jail to satisfy the fine at a stated rate. From the December 6 minute order recording a stipulation that the matter of sentence be "reopened,” the District Court of Appeal perhaps inferred, notwithstanding the pendency of the probation hearing, that the matter as to the one count had been "closed”; and the McAllister case (p. 524 of 15 Cal.2d) says, "It can hardly be assumed that during ... a period of over five weeks, the first sentence had not been entered by the clerk in the minutes. ’ ’
It may be noted that the Garrity decision was reached notwithstanding the fact that the pendency of the probation proceeding was recognized. The appellate court stated (p. 373 of 97 Cal.App.) : "Although the
record herein does not disclose the fact, it is conceded by respective counsel that at the time of the conviction of the defendant of the said crime of conspiracy he was also convicted of the commission by him of certain other offenses, as to which, under certain specified conditions, the execution of the judgment was suspended; that after judgment had been pronounced by the trial court, and pending an investigation relative to a decision by the trial court as to whether ‘ probation ’ (or suspension of the judgment) should be granted to the defendant as to his conviction of the charge of conspiracy [to violate the Corporate Securities Act], a stipulation was entered into between counsel respectively representing the defendant and the prosecution to the effect that a delay by the trial court beyond the statutory period in reaching a conclusion as to the matter of 'probation’ for the defendant, would in nowise affect the power of the court in the premises.”
In the Beimringer case the trial court’s originally entered judgment provided, “Sentences on counts 2, 3 and 4 to run consecutively to sentence on count 1; the sentence on count 5 to run concurrently with count 1.” More than a month later, outside the presence of defendants and after they had begun to serve time, the court entered an amended judgment which specified “that the second count was to be served after the first, the third after the second, the fourth after the third all consecutively, the fifth concurrently with the first.” (P. 342 of 116 Cal.App.2d.) Whether the trial court had intended by the language it used on the first occasion to impose the same sequence of terms which it delineated in the later pronouncement does not appear, but the construction which the District Court of Appeal placed on the trial court’s judgment, together with the ground for the appellate court’s holding, are clearly stated in its opinion. The District Court (p. 343 [19] of 116 Cal.App.2d) says, “Appellants contend that the first formulation makes counts 2, 3 and 4 run concurrently
(In re Sweet,
“We hold that the court had power to make the modification in the manner it did.”
(Cf. In re Pedrini
(1949),
