Thе defendants, father and son, appeal from a judgment convicting them of arson. The charge is that they set fire to a stock of men’s clothing which was owned by а corporation controlled by them. The fire was in a store in Jamaica, Long Island, leased by the corporation and due to open the following day as one of the corporation’s chain of similar shops. Substantially all the proof on which the conviction rests came from the prosecution witnеsses Tunick and Leibson who were employees of the corporation at the time of the fire but were later discharged from that employment. Neither testified that he saw the fire started but each described activities and conversations of the defendants earlier on the day of the fire, which the jury might well have hеld were part of deliberate preparations by the defendants to burn some worthless or unsalable merchandise in order to collect the insurancе on it. After the fire, say both these witnesses, the defendants made *163 damaging admissions ■ to them, urged them to keep secret their knowledge of the cause of the firе and promised rewards to them for holding their tongues. Vigorous efforts were made by the defendants to discredit these witnesses and their narratives, but their testimony was accepted by the jury. There is serious question, however, as to whether the defendants were not deprived of a substantial right by the denial of their requests to be allоwed to examine during the trial certain testimony given by these same witnesses in an investigation made by the public authorities before the trial.
Early in the trial, and beforе either Tunick or Leibsoh had testified, defense counsel established by cross-examination of a Deputy Fire Marshal, who had been called as a witness by the рrosecution, that Tunick and Leibson had both given testimony in an investigation of this fire conducted by the New York City Fire Marshal, that each of them had appearеd at least twice before this official and that each had first denied any knowledge of the fire and then on a later appearance, acсused these defendants of setting it. This Deputy Fire Marshal had the stenographic minutes of these investigations with him in court and was, apparently, consulting them while he testified. Defense counsel asked the court to be allowed to examine these minutes. The District Attorney objected and the court denied the request, on the mistаken ground that such an examination was forbidden by section 779 of the former New York City Charter (Laws of 1901, ch. 466, as amd.) which section was in effect when some of this former tеstimony was given but had been repealed, before the trial, by the new Charter which went into effect on January 1, 1938. In any case section 779 did not make these examinations before the Fire Marshal generally privileged and confidential, but only forbade their use against the person who gave the testimony. (See
People
v.
Ales,
Defense counsel asked again for the stenographic minutes of this testimony, while he was cross-examining the witness Leibson. At that point in the trial both Tunick and Leibson had admitted giving cоntradictory statements to the Fire Marshal, testifying that they had first told the Marshal that they knew nothing about the cause of the fire but later had told him the same incriminating story thеy told at the trial. Again the court denied defense counsel’s request to see this former testimony, on the supposed authority of the New York City Charter and of
People
v.
Ales (supra).
Neither that statute nor that case supports the ruling. The majority of the Appellate Division, however, consider that the ruling was right, but for a different reason. The earliеr statements made to the Fire Marshal by these witnesses were, says the Appellate Division, not contradictory of the trial testimony of Tunick and Leibson, becаuse these witnesses had admitted at the trial that they had previously made such statements to the Marshal. This argument, as we understand it, runs thus: opposing counsel may attаck the credibility of a witness by showing that he has told a different story elsewhere, but if the witness admit his inconsistencies, then the inquiry is at an end and the earlier and different statеment of the witness need not be shown to opposing counsel. We do not think such a qualification of the rule of
People
v.
Walsh
(
Although the testimony of Tunick and Leibson is not in the record, we have, in order to determine whether this error could be disregarded by the Appellate Division under the provisions of section 542 of the Code of Criminal Pro- j cedure, procured and examined it. We find that Tunick, ' on two appearances at the Marshal’s office and Lеibson, on one such appearance, stoutly maintained that they had neither knowledge nor opinion as to the cause of the fire. 1 Besides this, Tunick, at lеast, in his sworn testimony to the Marshal, put an entirely innocent construction on certain occurrences before and after the fire which, on the trial, he so described as to make them appear to be proofs of guilt.
The jury, we think, did not have here a satisfactory opportunity to measure and weigh credibility by the use of both sets of testimony. We adopt the view that the right to scrutinize prior inconsistent statements cannot be cut off by the mere admission by the witness that he has been guilty of inconsistency. (3 Wigmore on Evidence [3d ed.], § 1037; 3 Wharton’s Criminal Evidence [11th ed.], § 1309.) This we consider a just and logical application of the rule of
People
v.
Walsh,
at least in situations where the conviction stands or falls on the truthfulness of prosecution witnesses. Judge Crouch in his opinion in
People
v.
Walsh (supra),
quoted some of the language of Judge Cooley’s famous opinion in
People
v.
Davis
(
The judgments should be reversed, and a new trial ordered.
Lehman, Ch. J., Loughran, Finch, Rippey, Lewis and Conway, JJ., concur.
Judgments reversed, etc.