People v. SandersPeople v. Sanders
delivered the opinion of the court:
The principal issue raised by this appeal is the construction and application to be given to the Illinois statute
A murder conviction of the defendant, Robert Sanders, in a jury trial in the circuit court of Cook County based in part upon the testimony of his wife was reversed by the appellate court (
During pretrial discovery the defense filed a motion in limine to prevent the defendant’s wife, Beverly Sanders, from testifying about conversations she had with her husband, the defendant. Shortly after it was filed, the public defender’s office, which had been representing the defendant, was replaced by other appointed counsel, who represented the defendant at trial. Defendant’s new attorney did not seek a ruling on the motion in limine, and that motion was never ruled upon. Neither did defendant’s attorney object at trial to the wife’s testimony.
She testified to three conversations with her husband
The State argues that communications between spouses are privileged only when intended to be confidential. In this case the State сontends the confidentiality of the first and third conversations was destroyed by the presence of their children. It contends that the second conversation was not confidential because the defendant must have expected that his wife would display the watch and ring he gave her by wearing them in public, and that he did not therefore intend his act to be confidential. The defendant argues that the record does not clearly show that their children were in the immediate presence of his wife and himself in a position to hear their first and third conversations, and that during the second communication he acted in reliance upon the expectation that what transpired would be confidential.
The starting point for our decision is the interpretation given in People v. Palumbo (1955),
We agree with the appellate court’s conclusiоn that the evidence establishes that the third conversation took place in the presence of her sons, Robert who was 13, and two others who were 10 and 8 at the time. On cross-examination the wife repeated her direct testimony, which is quoted at length in the appellate court opinion, that the three children were present during thе third conversation when the following exchange took place:
“Q. Did you know anything about Curtiss Lovelace?
A. Only what my husband had told me.
Q. You say he was bragging when he told you this?
A. Yes.
Q. He wasn’t nervous, was he?
A. Not until he found out the man was dead.
Q. When he first told you was he nervous or bragging?
A. Not nervous.
Q. Pacing around the room?
A. No, he wasn’t.
Q. Excited?
A. No.
Q. Who was present when this conversation occurred?
A. Robert, Albert and Pee Wee.
Q. They were all there?
A. Yes.”
Following this exchange there was another reference during her cross-examination to the presence of the wife’s oldest son:
“Q. And that day of the events that you have testified to, October the 14th, that day you had just finished a fight with your husband, right?
A. Yes.
Q. Did he threaten your son, Robert, in any way at that time?
A. No.
Q. But during all of these conversations, Robert, your son, was present, right?
A. Yes, he was.”
The question presented in this case is whether the communications fell outside the ambit of the statute’s protection because of the presence of the children. We have found no Illinois case holding that the confidentiality of a conversation between a husbаnd and wife is preserved when it takes place in the presence of children. The appellate court appears to have exhaustively researched the subject and concluded, as we do, that the great weight of authority is that the presence of children of the spouses destroys confidentiality unless they are toо young to understand
The defendant argues that this court should recognize a privilege, which he concedes does not presently exist in Illinois, between parents and children which would include conversations between spouses at which thеir children are present. Courts in a few other jurisdictions have cloaked communications between parent and child with a privilege. (In re Agosto (D. Nev. 1983),
Moreover, we are constrained not only by the legislature’s lack of interest in extending an interspousal communications privilege to communications between parent and child, but also by the fact that evidentiary privileges of this sort exclude relevant evidence and thus work against the truthseeking funсtion of legal proceedings. In this they are distinct from evidentiary rules, such as the prohibition against hearsay testimony, which promote this function by insuring the quality of the evidence which is presented. The privilege at issue here results not from a policy of safeguarding the quality of evidence at trial but from a policy of promoting family harmony indeрendent of what might occur in a trial at some future date. The Supreme Court in Trammel v. United States (1980),
“Testimonial exclusionary rules and privileges contravene the fundamental principle that ‘ “the public ... has a right to every man’s evidence.” ’ United States v. Bryan [(1950),339 U.S. 323 , 331,94 L. Ed. 884 , 891,70 S. Ct. 724 , 730.] As such, they must be.strictly construed and accepted ‘only to the very limited extent that permitting a refusal to testify or excluding relevant evidence has a public good transcending the normally predominant principle of utilizing all rational means for ascertaining truth.’ Elkins v. United States [(1960),364 U.S. 206 , 234,4 L. Ed. 2d 1669 , 1695,80 S. Ct. 1437 , 1454] (Frankfurter, J., dissenting).”
See also 8 J. Wigmore, Evidence sec. 2285, at 527-28 (1961).
The defendаnt argues, however, that inasmuch as the Federal courts have recognized the right of privacy to be of constitutional dimension in the context of certain func-' tions which are intimately associated with the family, we should hold that communications of a confidential nature between a parent and his child enjoy an evidentiary privilege undеr the Constitution which did not exist under the common law. The defendant points out that in In re Agosto (D. Nev. 1983),
We need not decide here, and we do not decide, whether the decisions in In re Agosto or People v. Fitzgerald were sound, for the question in both of those cases was whether a parent or a child could be compelled against his will to testify against the other. (See also In re A and M (1978), 61 App. Div. 2d 426,
Although they were the subject of the motion in limine which was never ruled upon, no objection was advanced at trial when the wife testified about the first and second conversations. Under Palumbo the Illinois statute preventing testimony by either spouse concerning confidential communications between them creates only a privilege, and a privilege may be waived by the holder of it, in this case the husband. (See Comment, Marital Privileges, 46 Chi.-Kent L. Rev. 71, 82-83 (1969).) Therefore, in order to affirm the appellate court’s reversal of the conviction, we would have to conclude that the court properly applied the plain error doctrine (87 Ill. 2d R. 615) in holding that testimony regarding the first two conversations was improperly admitted.
The plain error doctrine is properly applied only when the question of guilt is close and the evidence in question might have significantly affected the outcome of the case (People v. Jackson (1981),
Nor do we regard any errors that might have been made concerning the admissibility of the first and second conversations as depriving the accused of the substantial means of enjoying a fair and impartial trial (People v. Roberts (1979),
The defendant has raised a number of other issues, none of which were considered by the appеllate court because of its erroneous reversal of the conviction on the ground of improper use of privileged communications. The judgment of the appellate court is reversed and the cause is remanded to that court for disposition of the issues raised by the defendant but not reached by its original decision. See People v. Simpson (1977),
Reversed and remanded, with directions.