People v. DyePeople v. Dye
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- Before:
- Appleton, Pope, Steigmann
Presiding Justice Pope and Justice Steigmann concurred in the judgment and opinion.
OPINION
¶ 1 In a bench trial, the trial court found defendant, Stanley A. Dye, guilty of threatening a public official (
I. BACKGROUND
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¶ 3 On February 7, 2013, defendant had an appointment with his attorney, Jacqueline Lacy, the Vermilion County public defender. The appointment was in her office, on the third floor of the courthouse. In their meeting, Lacy told him she had some bad news: because he had been less than forthright with her, she had subpoenaed some documents, and as a result, she had inadvertently uncovered evidence that was harmful to his case. The State would receive a copy of the subpoenaed documents. Evidently, the documents pertained to the chemical testing of a crack pipe.
¶ 4 Defendant became irate and demanded that Lacy have the crack pipe retested. She declined to do so. He raised his voice. She raised her voice. He threatened to complain about her to Judge DeArmond and request a different attorney. She said to go ahead, but she predicted that Judge DeArmond would decline to appoint him a different attorney. He accused her of selling him out and working for the State. She told him he “needed to” leave her office. He did so.
¶ 5 As he was exiting through the waiting room, defendant told Lacy, two or three times, ” ‘I‘m gonna get you.’ ” He pointed at her or at the floor as he said those words. Lacy asked him, ” ‘Are you fucking threatening me?’ ” According to defendant‘s testimony, he replied, ” ‘No, no. I ain‘t threatening you.’ ” A paralegal who worked in the public defender‘s office, Andrew Bower, had stepped between defendant and Lacy because of “the way [defendant] was standing, his mannerisms, how aggressive he was with his speech, his posture.” Bower put his hand on defendant‘s shoulder, to guide him out the door and into the hall. Defendant ignored him and left.
¶ 6 Lacy, who was scared, trembling, and on the verge of tears, called the police.
II. ANALYSIS
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¶ 8 Various statutes, including section 12-9 of the Criminal Code of 2012 (
¶ 9 In Black, the Supreme Court described a “true threat” as follows:
” ‘True threats’ encompass those statements where the speaker means to communicate a serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence to a particular individual or group of individuals. [Citations.] The speaker need not actually intend to carry out the threat. Rather, a prohibition on true threats protect[s] individuals from the fear of violence and from the disruption that fear engenders, in addition to protecting people from the possibility that the threatened violence will occur. [Citation.] Intimidation in the constitutionally proscribable sense of the word is a type of true threat, where a speaker directs a threat to a person or group of persons with the intent of placing the victim in fear of bodily harm or death.” (Emphases added and internal quotation marks omitted.) Black, 538 U.S. at 359-60.
¶ 11 Obviously, no witness had direct sensory access to defendant‘s mind and intent. Therefore, the trier of fact could determine what he intended only by drawing inferences from his conduct, including what he said. See People v. Ybarra, 156 Ill. App. 3d 996, 1002 (1987). Looking at the evidence in the light most favorable to the prosecution, would it be possible for any rational trier of fact to find, beyond a reasonable doubt, that defendant intended to physically threaten Lacy? See People v. Cunningham, 212 Ill. 2d 274, 278 (2004). He told her repeatedly, ” ‘I‘m gonna get you.’ ” He did not thereby say he necessarily was going to harm her physically. To “get” someone means to “[p]unish, injure, or kill” someone, “especially as retribution.” The
¶ 12 “Get” is just as apt a word for nonviolent punishment as violent punishment, and some additional facts, beyond the mere utterance, would be necessary to infer, beyond a reasonable doubt, that “I‘m going to get you” was intended as a threat of violence. Did defendant intend to be understood as making a physical threat? See Black, 538 U.S. at 360 (“Intimidation in the constitutionally proscribable sense of the word is a type of true threat, where a speaker directs a threat to a person or group of persons with the intent of placing the victim in fear of bodily harm or death.“). Answering that question would be like flipping a coin. We should draw only reasonable inferences in favor of the prosecution; we should not make random speculations in favor of the prosecution. Cunningham, 212 Ill. 2d at 280. When reviewing the record, we see no evidence justifying a reasonable inference that when defendant told Lacy, ” ‘I‘m gonna get you,’ ” he intended to convey the idea of violent retribution as opposed to nonviolent retribution. Granted, defendant was shouting, as was Lacy, and Bower described defendant‘s “speech” and “posture” as “aggressive.” When people are angry, however, they tend to become loud and tense and to make vigorous gestures—even when threatening to do something nonviolent. Defendant had just got done warning Lacy he was going to complain about her to Judge DeArmond. That cannot be a pleasant prospect for a public defender. Another way to “get back” at a reputedly
III. CONCLUSION
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¶ 14 For the foregoing reasons, we reverse the trial court‘s judgment.
¶ 15 Reversed.