Strong, J.
The defendants stand indicted for the alleged murder of William Poole, in the city and county of New York. The indictment contains as many counts as there are defendants, respectively charging each as primary, and the others as secondary principals. The first count charges the defendant Baker as the most prominent actor, and the others as being present at the scene of the murder, and aiding and abetting him. He elected to be tried separately. He was first tried at a Court of Oyer and Terminer, held before Judge Roosevelt, in the county of New York, (where the venue is laid and the indictment was found,) in December last. The trial lasted nearly a fortnight, and resulted in the disagreement of the jurors and their discharge. His trial was again commenced at a Court of Oyer and Terminer held before me, pursuant to an appointment by the Chief Judge of the Court of Appeals in the same county, on the 14th of April last. Five hundred jurors had been summoned to attend the trial. Of that number, five only were sworn, the others having failed to attend, or having been excused or rejected on challenges for cause, or on peremptory challenges in behalf of the defendant. Another panel of five hundred jurors was then ordered, and they were summoned to attend eventually on the 24th of April. On that and the next days seven of the last panel were procured, who, from their answers, appeared to be free from any legal exceptions. One of them was excused from serving, as he was conscientiously opposed to attending to any secular business on the Jewish Sabbath, and it was conceded that the trial would extend beyond one such day. The other six were sworn, when that panel was exhausted. Another of two hundred and fifty was then ordered for the 29th of April. On the last mentioned day the 12th juror was obtained, there remaining in the box, when his name was drawn, about twenty undrawn ballots. The empanneling of the jury occupied nearly four days. About four hundred persons appeared; of those two hundred and twenty-two were set aside on challenge for having formed and expressed an opinion as to the guilt or innocence of the *46accused on trial, three were- peremptorily challenged by him, twelve were sworn as before stated, and the remaining jurors were excused or eventually discharged.
The trial proceeded a short time, during which two witnesses were examined on the 29th of April. On the next day one of the jurors sworn failed to attend, and it appeared, on an examination of a messenger from him, that he was confined to his bed, and probably would remain so for a considerable period, by indisposition. The counsel for Baker thereupon proposed that the trial should proceed before the eleven jurors who were then present, or that the Jew who had been excused should sit on the trial, and thus complete the number, and that those who remained of the last panel should be re-summoned, and that the person whose name should be first drawn should be sworn and act as the twelfth juror. These propositions were declined by the counsel for the people, and the eleven jurors were thereupon discharged. The court was then adjourned to the first Tuesday in June, and a panel of one thousand jurors was ordered. Subsequently to the last mentioned adjournment, a certiorari was issued by the District Attorney, and allowed by Judge Roosevelt, removing the action into the Supreme Court.
On the 24th of May two motions were made at a special term held before me in New York, pursuant to an appointment made by the Chief Judge of the Court of Appeals, and also at the request of the Justices of the First Judicial District, who were otherwise engaged,—one by the counsel for the prisoners, that the certiorari should be quashed as having been improvidently issued, and the other by the counsel for the People, that the place of trial should be changed to some other county, on the ground that a fair and impartial trial of the action could not be had in the city and county of New York.
1. The prisoner’s counsel contend in support of their motion, that a certiora/ri to remove an indictment from the Oyer and Terminer to the Supreme Court cannot lawfully issue at the instance of the counsel for the prosecution.
There can be no doubt but that it has always been competent for the counsel for the crown in England, and since our *47revolution, for the counsel for the People in this State, (unless the power has been abrogated by the statutory provisions which I shall presently consider,) to remove criminal actions from the Oyer and Terminer to a higher tribunal by certiorari. Mr. Chitty, in his valuable work on criminal law, (1 'Chiti. Cr. Law, 377,) after citing several acts of Parliament restricting or regulating the practice upon certiorari in criminal cases, says :—“ But these acts apply only to writs of certiorari on the part of the defendants, and therefore the crown and a private prosecutor may still obtain them, without affidavit or recognizance, unless expressly prohibited by particular statute;” (and he cites 5 Durnf. & E., 626; 6 lb., 194; 3 Dos. <6 P., 354; 2 Str., 900 ; 1029; Coiop. 18 ; 1 Bast., 305; 15 lb., 327; Bacon's Abr., tit. Certiorari C.) And again the same author remarks (p. 378), “ the writ of certiorari is demandable of absolute right only by the king himself, and to him the court is bound to grant it.” The English reports are full of cases where cerüoraris to remove criminal actions from the Oyer and Terminer to the Court of King’s Bench (which, as to its jurisdiction in criminal cases, corresponds with the Supreme Court in this State), have been issued on the application of the officers of the crown. The case (3 Bos. & P., 354), cited by Mr. Chitty, was before the House of Lords, and it was decided by that tribunal that the certiorari could be issued by the officers of the crown, notwithstanding general restrictive words in an act of Parliament in reference to the class of cases to which the decision referred.
The right of the prosecution to issue this process is impliedly recognized in this State in the provision of the Bevised Statutes (2 Rev. Stats., 733), that “ all issues of fact joined upon any indictment shall be tried by a jury in the county where such indictment was found, unless for special causes the Supreme Court shall order an indictment removed into that court to be tried in some other county.” This speaks of the removal of criminal causes as an existing common law practice, and makes no attempt to restrict it.
There are several cases in our courts which sustain the right to obtain this process in behalf of the people. In the case of The People v. Vermilyea, (7 Cow. 141), where one of the in*48dietments had been removed to the Supreme Court by certiorari, the District attorney inquired whether he should give the other indictments the same direction by issuing writs of cerUorari for their removal to that court. To which Chief Justice Savage answered, “ You must take your own course on that subject. You have a right to remove the other causes or to try them where you are, as you shall think advisable. In the case of the People v. Webb, (1 Hill, 179), where the defendant had been indicted for a libel on J. Fenimore Cooper, in the county .of Otsego, the indictment was removed by cerUorari, on the application of the District Attorney, from the Oyer and Terminer to the Supreme Court, and the place- of trial was changed to the county of Montgomery. In that case the cerUorari to the Oyer and Terminer had been obtained after that Court had ordered that the trial should proceed, or that a nolle prosequi should be entered. It is true, as was said by the counsel for Baker on his argument, that the right to issue the writ in behalf of the prosecution was not disputed in that case; but the motion to change the place of trial which followed it, was warmly contested, and if it had been supposed that the process had been irregularly obtained, the objection, which would have been fatal to the motion, would have been urged. The silence of the counsel and of the court was, under the circumstances, significant against the objection.
The counsel for the defendants contended that if the right to issue the certiorari in criminal cases, by the District Attorney, had existed at common law, it would have been abrogated by sections 1 and 2 of chapter 65 of the acts of 1829, and section 1 of chapter 12 of the act of 1847. The act of 1829 provides (§ 1) that no cerUorari to remove into the Supreme Court any indictment pending in a Court of Oyer and Terminer, before trial thereon, shall be effectual unless allowed by a Justice of the Supreme Court, or (then) circuit Judge; and (§ 2) that before allowing any such writ, the officer to whom application should be made, should take from the defendant a recognizance with sureties, conditioned that the defendant prosecuting such writ will appear at the return day thereof in the Supreme Court, and abide the orders and rules of such court; and section 1 of the act of 1847, merely exempts the defendants who may *49be indicted for treason, murder or arson in the first degree, and who may be in custody, from the necessity of entering into any recognizance for their appearance in the Supreme Court. If section 1 of the act of 1829 had stood alone—as that merely regulated the practice, and did not purport to take away any right—it might have been construed to include certioraris issued on behalf of the people. But the second section —although it specifies the process in general terms—evidently refers to such as might be allowed in behalf of the defendants. The prosecution could not be required to give a recognizance for the conduct of the defendants as a condition for obtaining the writ. There is no statutory provision involving such an absurdity, except in section 8 of the Act for the Prevention of Intemperance, Pauperism and Crime (Laws of 1855, 346-7), which provides that an appeal and the service of a notice thereof shall be of no effect in behalf of the defendant or complainant, unless he shall deliver to the magistrate an undertaking to the people in the sum of $500, with one or more sureties, conditioned, among other things, that the defendant shall not, during the pendency of the appeal, violate any of the provisions of the act; thus requiring the complainant where the appeal is by him, to become responsible for the good behavior of his opponent. But the prohibitory act furnishes no very reliable rule for the construction of other statutes. In reference to the act of 1829, it may raise a slight inference that the Legislature by which it was passed supposed that the certiora/)'i could be issued only at the instance of the defendant. But that could not have the effect to abrogate a pre-existing right of the people, and one too, which might be so very essential to the due administration of justice under circumstances of frequent occurrence. In England it has been clearly settled that the rights of the crown are not taken away by any general statutory provision, unless the intention to do so is clearly and directly manifested. Thus, in the case of the King v. Davis, (5 S. R. 626), Judge Butler remarked that “ the general rule is, that when the certiorari (in criminal cases) is taken away by act of Parliament, the crown is not included in the restriction, unless there be some words in the act to show that the Legislature intended itand Judge Grose said: “ We cannot *50break in upon the general rule which has been so long established, that the crown is not bound by the general words of a statute taking away the certiorari, unless it appear upon the face of the act of Parliament that the legislature “ intended, that the crown should be bound.” The same principle was sustained and applied to a certioreuri in a criminal case obtained by the crown officers in the case of the King v. the Inhabitants of the County of Cumberland, by the Court of King’s Bench and by the House of Lords (2 Bos. & P., 354). There are many other cases in the English reports to the same effect, and the rule is well settled in the country from which we inherit the common law. In this State, where the people have acquired the rights originally appertaining to the crown of England in criminal cases except where they are inconsistent with our form of government, or have been expressly abrogated (and neither is the case here) it is safe to conclude that the well settled rights of the public have not been taken away by a remote inference. The continuance of the right in question was recognized by the Supreme Court in the case of The People v. Webb (which I have before cited), long after the passage of the act of 1829. I am satisfied that it still exists, and the motion to quash the certiorari in this case is therefore denied. The indictment may, nevertheless, be hereafter remanded to the Court of Oyer and Terminer for trial, should the ends of justice require that procedure (2 Rev. Stats., 742, § 28).
2. The most material, and by far the most difficult, question presented for my consideration is, whether the place of trial should be changed on the ground that a fair and impartial trial cannot be had in the city and county of New York.
There are many palpable reasons why trials in criminal cases should ordinarily be had in the counties where the transactions which gave rise to them occurred, and a change should not be made except for forcible and clearly established causes. Our statutes require that issues of fact joined upon any indictment shall be tried by a jury in the county where such indictment was found, unless for special causes the Supreme Court shall order an indictment removed into that court, to be tried in some other county (2 Rev. Stats., 733, § 1). Mr. Chitty *51says (1 Chitt. Cr. L., 495), that—“ Not very strong evidence of partiality will be required, in order to induce the court to listen to the application for the removal” (to another place of trial). To that I cannot assent, nor is the position supported by the authorities to which the learned author refers. In one of the cases cited by him (Rex v. Harris, 3 Burr... 1333), Lord Mansfield said—“ There must be a clear and solid foundation for the suggestion” (of partiality). The question as to the unfairness or partiality of a drawn juror does not refer exclusively to his feelings, but extends to any opinion which he may have formed and expressed in reference to any material question involved in the controversy, and which may at all influence his decision. Thus, one who acted as a Grand Juror when the indictment was found, or who (in a case involving the life of the accused) cannot from conscientious scruples render a verdict which would lead to the punishment of death, is disqualified, although he has no hostile or favorable feeling towards the defendant. Some of the English authorities seem to indicate that some feeling of the juror, either hostile or friendly, must be involved in the objection to render it effectual; but it has been otherwise adjudicated in this State. In the case of the People v. Vermilyea, (1 Cow., 108,) the English and American authorities were elaborately reviewed by Judge Woodworth; and he expresses an opinion, in which the other judges concurred; that a challenge, because the juror had expressed an opinion, is for principal cause, and need not be accompanied by personal ill-will to render it valid.
A juror should have the ability, and one who is conscientious would feel the inclination, to decide all questions of fact submitted to him solely from a fair and impartial view of the evidence, without being at all influenced by ulterior considerations ; but that would be difficult, if not impossible, where he had previously formed and expressed a strong opinion upon the matter, especially if it corresponded with the public sentiment. Let him exert himself as he may, he cannot wholly avoid the difficulty. He will, in a case where the testimony is contradictory, yield a more ready credence, and give greater weight to that which sustains than that which opposes his pre■conception—such is the infirmity of the human mind, and we *52must take it as we find it. When the opinions extend so far as to become the general sentiment in the community where a trial of an exciting case is had, it forms a serious obstacle to-the due administration of justice, and the evil should be arrested when that is possible.
In the case under consideration there were many circumstances calculated to attract attention, and to induce the formation and expression of opinion, especially in a community proverbially excitable. 'Of these some of the more prominent were the public character of the deceased, and some of those who were present at the time when he received his death wound, and who have been charged with a participation in the tragedy : the singular prolongation of the life of the wounded man with a ball in his heart; the immense funeral procession which accompanied and followed the body to the grave ; the flight of one of the persons charged with the homicide across the ocean; the pursuit and capture of the fugitive under circumstances which induced the strong condemnation of his eloquent counsel on the argument before me; his subsequent protracted trial, and the publication in the newspapers of the city, of the testimony, which was taken with great minuteness, of the eloquent speeches of the counsel, and of the elaborate and able charge of the presiding judge. It is not at all remarkable that these circumstances should have led to the formation and expression of opinions by the citizens of Blew York, especially those who witnessed any of the exciting-scenes, or who read the newspapers. That there is a strong; and all but universal sentiment in the city as to the truth or-falsity of the charge as it respects the defendant Baker, was apparent, from the statements of the jurors who appeared-before me. Of the two hundred and thirty-eight who were examined, all but sixteen had both formed and expressed opinions as to the alleged guilt of the prisoner, and still retained them. The number of those who passed the ordeal of a strict examination was so inconsiderable that they could not be deemed a fair representation of the intelligence and reliability of the class which comprises the jurors of the county. The jurors who were admitted may all have been respectable men. I had no personal acquaintance with either *53of them, and heard nothing against any of them, except some insinuations by the District Attorney on the argument, which, .as they were not supported by any evidence, cannot be regarded in the decision of the motion which is now under consideration. If, however, they were all reliable men, such .a consummation was, under the circumstances, so remarkable, that a similar result on any future attempt could not be reasonably anticipated. Where so few out of so large a number of jurors are at all admissible, the right to challenge twenty peremptorily, which our laws benignly secure to persons tried for capital offences, gives to the defendants almost the entire control in the selection of the jury. In cases where all, or the greater portion, of those summoned, are unexceptionable, the full exercise of this privilege cannot operate prejudicially, but it is quite apparent that where but an inconsiderable number is admissible, it may create a very great embarrassment and seriously obstruct the course of justice. In this case, when the trial was before me, but three jurors were challenged peremptorily. Ordinarily, that might raise an inference that the admitted jurors were peculiarly acceptable to the defendant. How it was in this instance I am unable to say. Baker swears 'that he was unacquainted with any of the jurors, and had no influence over them. However, I am bound to consider the possible and (generally) probable effect of the existence and exertion of the privilege. If the trial, of this action should proceed in Hew York, it would probably be necessary, as it was before, to summon more than one panel. Where so many are to be selected and summoned, a considerable number of days must necessarily intervene. During that time the jurors already sworn must (at least under our practice) be permitted to separate and to mingle with their fellow citizens without any restriction. The injunction to hold no conversation with others on the subject of the trial may be obeyed by conscientious men; but it sometimes happens that one is sworn as a juror who is not a conscientious man, and as to such there can be no security. Besides, there is no responsibility upon the outsiders, and the inconsiderate will express their opinions, .and argue to support them, in the hearing of the sworn jurors. The danger of improper influences from such causes is very *54considerable. I am aware that some similar difficulty may occur if jurors are permitted to separate during the trial; and it was for this reason that when I proposed to introduce the practice on trials for murder in the city of New York, several years ago, I was warned by the judges of that district that it would be a dangerous precedent. But it seemed to me'then, and I still think, that scarcely any state.of circumstances will justify the seclusion and confinement of the jurors, and particularly of the infirm, and of those extensively engaged in business, during a protracted trial, from the time when they are sworn until they render their verdict. The practice of thus, confining them would operate very injuriously to the administration of justice, as the more reliable men would refuse to sit at all on trials for murder. The separation during the trial is-so evidently just that the danger resulting from it is a matter approaching very near to a necessity ; but a state of circumstances which would increase the risk should, if possible, be avoided. In this case if a judgment is to be formed from the past, and it must be, it will be difficult to procure any jury, and still more so to obtain one by which a fair, impartial and effectual trial can be had in the county of New York. Although a sufficient number of qualified jurors might possibly be friends of those who might not have formed or expressed any opinion as to the guilt or innocence of the accused, yet the strong existing public sentiment must be known to them, and it will have its influence. The jurors may be charged to disregard it, but they cannot do that with all their efforts. During an experience of many years, I do not remember a verdict in a criminal case in opposition to a strong public sentiment previously entertained and generally known. If that has been erroneous—and it sometimes is—it will probably lead to an unjust verdict. If there should be a divided sentiment, it would result in a disagreement, and the trial thus prove' abortive. Whether the inability of the jury first empanneled in this action to agree upon a verdict resulted from the effect of public opinion upon the minds of some of the number, cam-not be certainly known. Perhaps it may be, under the circumstances, the inferrable cause ; but I do not place any reliance upon that. There is sufficient without it to warrant the *55conclusion which I have adopted, that a fair, impartial and! effectual trial of this action cannot be had in Hew York, and that, therefore, it should take place in some other county.
The counsel for the defendant McLaughlin contended that the action should not be sent into another county for trial, as, if it should take that direction as to one it must as to all, and nothing appeared to prove that his client could not have a fair trial in the county of Hew York.
It is undoubtedly true that as to the question whether McLaughlin participated in the transaction at all, or in any manner which would make him responsible, there is no evidence that any opinions have been formed or expressed. But then when one is charged as an active participator, an opinion as to the guilt or innocence of one of the actors, and especially when all were together, must have an important bearing as to all, and would disqualify a proposed juror who had entertained and expressed it on the trial of either of the defendants. Sergeant Hawkins says, (Hawk. Pl. Cr. ch. 43, § 27), that “ the exception to an indictor is good upon the trial of another indictment or action wherein the same matter is either in question or happens to be material, though not directly in issue.” The principle that an opinion as to the guilt of an associate would exclude a juror was sustained by the Superior Court, in the case of “The People v. Vermilyea.” There would, therefore, be a difficulty in obtaining a fair and unprejudiced jury in Hew York to try either of the defendants.
It seems from the affidavit of Baker that he has a large number of witnesses who are poor, and unable to bear the expenses of a journey to another and perhaps distant county, and that he is also destitute of property, and his counsel made a feeling appeal to me against changing the place of trial, and thereby in effect depriving him of the ability to establish his defence. This objection, if well founded, would be entitled to great consideration. The defendants should not be deprived of any legitimate means of defence, nor will I consent to do that. They must, at all events, have a fair trial. I shall therefore, from a sense of justice evidently as to Baker, and probably as to the other defendants, require that the District Attorney shall make a satisfactory arrangement for the pay*56ment by the county of Hew York of the necessary expenses of the indigent witnesses subpoenaed by or on behalf of the defendants, , or either of them, and attending at any court where the trial shall not be postponed at their instance. Under such an arrangement, it seems to me that a change of the place of trial cannot be productive of injustice. It is undoubtedly true that it is often advantageous to the innocent accused that the trial should be where they and the witnesses are known, and where the circumstances can be appreciated from local knowledge, but it is still more important that their fate should be decided by jurors selected from an unbiassed community.
It can scarcely be necessary for me to say that I do not intend to impeach, in the slightest degree, the general character of Hew York jurors. Their respectability and their disposition to do right are not doubted, but they, like those selected from the rural districts, may be influenced in weighing the evidence and adopting their conclusions, by the public sentiment when that has been strongly formed and become generally known.
Ordinarily where the place of trial is changed, an adjoining county should be selected, and so ■ the authorities declare. However, there is no express limitation, and if the necessity which may require any change should call for a more remote county, that should be selected. In this case it is probable that the constant intercourse between the inhabitants of Hew York and the adjoining counties, and the free circulation of the newspapers of the city in its vicinity, have effected an extensive coincidence of sentiment, and the embarrassment in obtaining a fair and impartial trial in any adjoining county would be very great; I must therefore direct that the trial shall be had in a more remote county. The notice of motion designates the county of Suffolk, and as no particular objection was raised to that locality, I shall direct that the trial be had there, unless the counsel for the prosecution and for the defendants shall sign a mutual consent designating some other county.
An order must be entered,, reciting that it satisfactorily appears from the disagreement of the jury first empaneled to *57try the defendant Baker, the prevalence of formed and expressed opinions among the many jurors who had been summoned and had attended upon the inchoate second trial of the same defendant, and the indications which were thereby evinced that a strong sentiment as to the guilt or innocence of the defendant existed very generally among the citizens of New York, that a fair and impartial trial of the accused cannot be had in the county of New York, where the venue is laid; and that, therefore, the trial must be had in the county of Suffolk, (or any other county which may be designated by counsel), upon the completion of the arrangements which I have designated for the payment of the expenses of the defendant’s witnesses.
The following was the notice of motion.
Title of the Cause.
Please to take notice, that the indictment against the above-named parties, for the-murder of William Poole, by a writ of certiorari, allowed by the Hon. James J Roosevelt, May 6, 1856, under and by virtue of the provisions of the statute in such-case made and provided, has been removed from the Court of Oyer and Terminer into the Supreme Court, sitting in the first judicial district, and said writ and indictment returned to and filed with the Clerk of the said Supreme Court, at his oifice, May 7, 1856.
Please further to take notice, that upon the said indictment so removed and filed, and upon the original affidavits of the copies hereto annexed, I shall on behalf of the people of the State of New York, prosecuting their pleas in the County of New York, move on the 24th day of May inst., A. D. 1856, before Hon. Selah B. Strong, one of the Justices of the Supreme Court, at the Chambers of the said Court, in the City of New York, at 11 o’clock on the morning of that day, that the trial of said' indictment against the several parties above named, be changed from the County of New York, and the said indictment thereupon be carried down for trial at the-next Circuit Court of the County of Suffolk, or for such action in regard to the premises and indictment aforesaid, as the said Justice of the Supreme Court may take. Yours, &e. A. CAREY HALL.
District Attorney for County of New York.
To Lewis Baker, James Turner, Patrick McLaughlin, Charles Van Pelt, CorneliusLinn, John Hyler, and each of them.
And to James T. Brady, Horace F. Clarke, Daniel E. Sickles, and A. D. Russell, Esqs., of Counsel.