TOWNSEND, J.
— Appellant was indicted for arson. §2260 Burns 1914, Acts 1905 p. 584, §371. He was tried by the court and found guilty, fined $1,000, and sentenced.
The substance of the indictment necessary to be considered in this opinion is that appellant on December 10, 1916, did set fire to and burn a certain building used for residence, manufacturing and commerce, known as 122 E. Ohio Street, in the city of Indianapolis; that the building was of the value of $50,000, and was the property of Samuel E. Rauh; that the damage done to the building by the burning was $500.
The questions arise on motion for a new trial: (1) Error in permitting evidence .of insurance and proof of loss concerning certain personal property which appellant had in the building. (2) That the evidence does not show in dollars and cents what damage was done to the building, and therefore did not authorize a fine of $1,000. (3) That the ownership and value of the building, on December 10, 1916, is not shown by the evidence.
*4791. *478The evidence shows that in certain rooms of this building appellant had an engraving establishment; that *479on December 10, 1916, a fire occurred, which de~ stroyed the personal property belonging to appellant. It is not clear from the evidence that there was any burning of the building; but if this were the only question presented as to the sufficiency of the evidence, it would be difficult to hold that there was not some evidence from which the court could infer that there was some burning of a part of the building in question. The state should show clearly, under the indictment here, that there was a burning of the building: a burning of that which was a part of the structure that belonged ■to the real estate, and not appellant’s personal property or his trade fixtures in the building, which he had a right to remove.
But appellant presents a further question that is very clear from the record. At the outset of the evidence there was a stipulation as follows:
“It is hereby stipulated and agreed by the parties herein that a certain building situated in Marion county and used for the purpose of residence, manufacturer and commerce, commonly known as 122 E. . Ohio street in the city of Indianapolis, Marion county, Indiana, was of the value of Fifty Thousand Dollars and was the property of one Samuel E. Rauh.”
2. This is the only evidence of the ownership and value of the building. It will be observed that this stipulation does not fix any time of ownership. For aught that appears from the evidence, appellant himself may have been the owner of the building on December 10, 1916. He is charged here with burning the building of another. Therefore the lack of evidence as to the ownership and value of the building at the time in question is fatal, and for this reason the judgment must be reversed.
*4803. Another question presented by appellant is that the court erred in permitting evidence concerning insurance which appellant had on his personal property in his engraving business, because appellant says that the arson statute provides that it shall be a crime to burn one’s own property to defraud an insurance company, and, that not being the charge here, this evidence proved a different and distinct crime. This evidence was competent to show motive.
Appellant’s other contention is that, there being no evidence of the damage to the building, the court was not authorized to inflict a fine of $1,000. Appellant bases his contention upon decisions of this court. The first one being the case of Ritchey v. State (1844), 7 Blackf. 168; the second being Kenningham v. State (1889), 120 Ind. 322, 22 N. E. 313. The case in the 7th Blackford, supra, was decided under §25, chapter 53, R. S. 1843, and the penalty then was imprisonment and fine “not exceeding double the value of the property destroyed.” The 120th Indiana, supra, turned on the proposition of an attempt to burn, and was under the acts of 1881 (§1927 R. S. 1881). The proposition was that the statute as then worded did not provide for an attempt to burn. At the next session of the legislature after that decision, the act was amended (Acts 1891 p. 402). This act, with a few enlargements and changing of the wording as to the things burned or attempted to be burned, is our present act. §2260 Burns 1914, supra. The act now is: “Whoever wilfully and maliciously burns or attempts to burn any dwelling house. * * * the property so burned or attempted to be burned, being of the value of twenty dollars or upwards, and being the property of another, or being insured against loss or damage by fire, and the burning or attempt to bum being with intent to prejudice or defraud the insurer, is guilty of arson, and, on *481conviction, shall be imprisoned in the state prison not less than two years nor more than twenty-one years, and fined not exceeding double the value of the property burned or attempted to be burned; and' should the life of any person be lost thereby, such offender shall be deemed guilty of murder in the first degree, and shall suffer death or be imprisoned in the state prison during life.”
4. We understand appellant’s point to be that, unless there is destruction of the building to the extent of $20 worth, the crime of burning is not made out. We ' hold that the crime of burning is made out if any part of the building is burned, and that it is only necessary that the value of the thing be in excess of $20, not the damage by the burning. We also hold that it is necessary to show some burning of the structure. A burning, however slight, would be sufficient. The amount in dollars and cents of the damage done is immaterial.
5. As the law now stands, the fine may be double the value of the structure, subject always, however, to §16 of the Bill of Rights (Art. 1, §16, Constitution of Indiana), against excessive fines. Therefore, the allegation in the pleading that $500 worth of damage was done is surplusage under the present statute. It would be sufficient to show that some burning was done. As we said before, it is difficult to tell from the evidence that there was any burning of anything other than appellant’s personal property and trade fixtures. But, however this may be, there is a total failure of proof of the ownership and value of the building at the time of the fire.
The finding is therefore not sustained by sufficient evidence, and the judgment is reversed, with instructions to grant a new trial.
*482On Petition for Rehearing.
Townsend, J.
— Counsel for the state failed in their original brief to argue or cite authority to the proposition on which the case was reversed. They now claim that their failure to argue or cite authorities on this . point was because appellant’s original brief did not strongly urge this point; that they were therefore surprised at the decision of the court. We might invoke the rules of the court, but state’s counsel present a contention that we think should be settled.
The state says that the admission as to ownership and Value of the property should be interpreted to mean on the date charged in the indictment. Numerous civil cases are cited, and one criminal case (People v. Nolan [1917], 33 Cal. App. 493, 165 Pac. 715), to sustain this contention.
The California case is based on rules laid down as to stipulations and agreements in civil cases. It contents itself with citing the text of encyclopedias of law. That text, when examined, is sustained by decisions in civil cases only. This California case is squarely in point. The defendant in that case was charged with selling alcoholic liquor in no-license territory. During the trial of the case, the state’s attorney proposed to the defendant’s attorney that the territory charged in the indict- • ment be admitted to be no-license territory. Defendant’s attorney said, “Yes.” On appeal the point was raised that this admission did not fix the date charged in the indictment, and the court said: “We must assume that the district attorney knew that it was necessary to establish the truth of the material averments of the indictment, and that one of such averments was the existence of the no-license ordinance at the time of the alleged offense.”
*4832. *482We are not impressed with this authority. We think *483it a dangerous rule to undertake to infer what is meant in stipulations and agreements of this kind, or what the thought of either the state or the defendant’s attorney was with reference to them. It is the business of this court to fix rules of law that are definite, as near as may be, and in a criminal case the rule should be that, when the state asks for an admission from the defendant, its request should be as certain and accurate as the proof is required to be. If, in the instant case, we are to construe this stipulation and admission to mean the date charged in the indictment, then suppose that we had this: “It is agreed that Samuel E. Rauh was the owner of the building and it was of the value of $50,000.” Then we should be asked to infer that this means both the date alleged in the indictment and the description of the building. Then suppose the admission is as follows: “It is admitted and agreed by the parties that the building was the property of another and was of the value of $50,000.” Then we should be asked to infer the date, the name of the owner and the description of the building, and this would all be done on the same reasoning and by force of the same authorities that the state is now invoking. If we should do this, we would soon find ourselves adrift without compass or rudder — nothing but sail. It is of less consequence that the guilty should escape, or that the state have the expense and trouble of retrial, than .that a rule should be laid down, the limits of which would become hazy and indefinite. When the people of the State of Indiana ask for an admission fropa a defendant in a criminal case, it seems to us that it is better to require them to know and state accurately what it is that they want the defendant to admit.
Had the state, in the instant case, placed Samuel E. Rauh on the witness stand and proven by him that he was the owner of the building at 122 E. Ohio street and *484that it was of the value of $50,000, and stopped at that, we think no one would seriously contend that this proof would be sufficient. We think the same rule should apply to the stipulation.
Petition for rehearing denied.
Note. — Reported in 123 N. E. 241. Arson: ownership of property as affecting- crime, 1 Ann. Gas. 621, Ann. Cas. 1912A 1126; commission of, with intent to defraud insurer of property, Ann. Cas. 191SC 1164, 32 L. R. A. 648. See under (1) 5 C. J. 547, 550; (2) 5 C. J. 569;-(3) 5 C. J. 574; (4, 5) 5 C. J. 552.