delivered the opinion of the Court.
The court below refused to enforce certain portions of an order of the National Labor Relations Board, entered in proceedings
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under § 10 of the Act (49 Stat. 449), requiring an employer to cease and desist from dominating or interfering with a labor organization and to withdraw recognition from it as a collective bargaining representative of employees; and directing the employer to reinstate or to make whole certain.employees
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against' whom the Board fuund the employer had discriminated because of their union membership and activities. Enforcement of those portions of the order was refused because, in the view of the court below, they were not
Disestablishment of Independent.
Independent Union of Craftsmen was organized within a few days after the decision by • this Court,. on April 12, 1937, -of
National Labor Relations Board
v.
Jones & Laughlin Steel Corp.,
An “inside” union, as well as an “outside” union, may be the product of the right of the employees to self-organization and to collective bargaining “through representatives of their own choosing,” guaranteed by § 7 of the Act. The question here is whether the Board w.as justified in concluding that Independent was not the result of the employees’ free choice because the employer had intruded to impair their freedom.
Respondents point to numerous earmarks of independí ence which Independent evidences. They emphasizé that after it was recognized it held many bargaihing conferences and as a result obtained w;age increases* changes in seniority policy, bonus payments for nigfit workers, a better vacation policy, better lighting and idr conditions, and improved safety measures — in fact, áll of its major objectives except a closed shop;. They stress the facts that it is not financéd by the employer, that its meetings are held off company property, that its leadérship is substantially different from the employee representation in the old company union, and that its genesis was a suggestion 'made not by the employer but by1 a group of employees.
In the latter connection they urge that the employees chose Independent because that was the type of labor organization which they honestly preferred; or as stated by one of the employees who led the membership drive, “It was so.big a feature that they (the employees) were all anxious to get on the band wagon and do something.
It would indeed be a rare case where the finders of fact could probe the precise factors of motivation which underlay each employee’s choice. Normally, the conclusion that their choice was restrained by the employer’s interference must of necessity be based on the existence of conditions or circumstances which the employer created or for which he was fairly responsible and as a result of which it may reasonably be inferred that the employees did not have that complete and unfettered freedom of choices which the Act contemplates.
Here no one fact is conclusive. But the whole congeries of facts before the Board supports its findings!
The employer’s attitude towards unions is relevant. As we, have indicated, it maintained a company union both before and after the Act. And the court below sustained the Board’s finding as to the employer’s longstanding industrial espionage, through the National Metal Trades Association, which continued at least until an investigation was made late in 1936 by the La Follette Committee of the Senate.
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Further, the employer evidenced hostility towards an “outside” union. In 1936, plant manager Berry told the board of the company union that “in the event outside people came into our .plant and told us how to run the plant, then I had enough of industry.” At the hearing he testified that he meant “that the' Link Belt Company was able and had
Amalgamated, as well as Independent, solicited on company time. But a review of the record indicates that the instances of solicitation by Amalgamated on company time were scattered over a period of months and were apparently more sporadic than those of Independent. At least they do not appear to have had the magnitude and intensity of the acts of solicitation on company time by Independent. There is considerable testimony by members of the supervisory staff that they were instructed not to take sides in the union competition and not to allow solicitation on company time. Plant manager Berry testified on direct examination that'” those instructions were giyen after April 12, 1937; and on cross-examination he admitted that they were given only after April 19,1937, at which time Independent had acquired a membership of 760 men. It is argued here that the employer warned solicitors for Independent and threatened them with dismissal for engaging in union activities on the company’s time. And Froling, chairman of the company union and active solicitor for Inde
“He took the sheets in my hand — the first sheet I had already filled, with the heading on it, and I had nothing but blank sheets left, and he went around the machines, the molders right off the side floor.there, and he told them to sign up for the Inside union here, and he signed up I believe ten, and about five of them he signed up in his own handwriting. The majority of them in the foundry don’t know how to write. Q. And did you see him sign up these other men? A. I seen him sign up actually about seven or eight, I am sure, in his own handwriting. He went as far as one crane man who was working right abové him, and he was going up to him and he was going to explain what it was all about, and he says, ‘Oh, heck, he don’t know how to write,’ so he wrote down his name, too. I don’t remember his name, I know it was John, the crane man in his department. • I •just don’t know his last name. Q. And then did Mr: Shaskinskis (sic) give you back the paper? A. Yes, he returned them back to me after he had the names on them.”
This episode* was confirmed at least in part by Johnson, an employee*
Another employee, Balcauski, testified as follows respecting Siskauskis-solicitation:
“He walked to mé and he said, ‘Stanley, why don’t you join in the C. I. 0.’ — I mean this here, the independent craftsmen’s union. I said, ‘I am already with the C-. I. 0.’ He says, ‘The hell with the C. I. 0.’ He says, ‘Join in with the craftsmen’s union.’ He says, We are going to have our union.’ Then I repeated, I says,‘Do you know under the Wagner Law that is not allowed for the foreman to go and organize the workingmen on the company time or on his own time?’ He told me this, he said, ‘To hell with that.’ So I says, ‘If you want to sign up independent, go ahead, I ain’t going to waste my time.’ And I walked away.”
Balcauski further testified respecting Siskauskis’ solicitation of employees: “He told them, ‘If you don’t sign, up’ — I heard it with my own ears — he said, ‘you ate going to get out of here.’ ”
Still another employee, Thomas, testified:
“Q. Did anybody ask you to join the Independent Union? A. Everybody, Splitz (Siskauskis) comes to me with piece of paper, sign your name. I say I can’t sign hay name. He says, ‘All right, I sign it myself.’ And he signed it himself, my name. Q. Did he say anything more to you about it? A. That is all that day. The. second day he come around again. He say, ‘Joe, sign name.’ I say, ‘I sign yesterday.’ He-say, ‘All right, it is no good, I threw it away.’ Q. It is no good, he threw it away? A. Sure. I didn’t sign no place. ‘Joe,’ he say, ‘Sign him up anyhow, or maybe lose job.’ Q. Splitz says to sign up or maybe you lose job? A. Yes. I says, T sign him up if you want to.’ He come in Thursday about this piece of paper again and- he say, ‘Joe, sign name) I say, ‘What is the matter, I sign him up twice, I sign him up before yesterday and I sign him again.’ He say, ‘Something wrong, no good.’ I say, T quit, I don’t want sign at all.’ Q. You didn’t want to sign? A,No. Q. You didn't sign either day? A. I don’t sign. At noontime he come to me and he say — I was by him over there and he say, ‘Come on, Joe, come in office sometime, we want to see you.’ Q. Did you go in the' office? A. Yes. ... Q. Some man with a mustache' was sitting there? A. Yes, sir. He says, ‘What you want?’ I say, ‘Splitz sent me in office, you want something?’ He said he didn’t want nothing from me. Splitz come in then and grabbed my hand, and he say, ‘Give him piece of paper.’ He say, ‘sign his name.’ I can’t sign name, I say I will not sign. I said two times I sign, I don’t like it. He say, ‘Sign anyhow.’ Q. Who said that? A. Splitz, ‘Go ahead, sign again.’ I say, *1' am going out, go to work.’ Q. You did not sign? A. No. A couple of times he come to me and say, ‘Sign them up.’ I don’t sign no place; A lot of people don’t sign, I no sign.”
Bozurich, an employee, testified as follows with respect to the attitude of Siskauskis towards Amalgamated:
“. . . then he went on with remarks that it would be very bad if C. I. 0-would come into the shop. And I said, ‘What would be bad about it?’ I said, ‘If the workers want it who can stop them?’ ‘Well,’ he said, ‘if C. I. O. comes in the company will close the plant.’ He said, ‘You see during the depression it was hard to be without a job.’ . I said, ‘Company can’t lock — close the shop because of the union.’ I says, ‘That would be considered as a lock-out.’ And he said, ‘Who can stop them?’ ■ ‘Well,’ I said, ‘the government.’ He said, ‘The company runs the plant and not the government.’ I said, ‘There is such a thing as government Labor Board here who takés care of those members,’ and I believe I referred him to — well, to be exact, I read in the paper about a certain company somewhere in New York or New Jersey that due to C. I. 0. activities closed their plant andmoved the machinery out, things like that, to get away from the union. So I call his attention to that, to the best of my recollection from the newspaper, that the Labor Board takes action; they got company to put machinery back. At least that is the way I understood it so the illustration to him is that we are not afraid' of that kind. Then he twisted his lips and said ‘Oh,’ he says, ‘you better keep away from. something like that,’ he sáid, ‘and if you want anything it is best to go to boss yourself.’ ”
There is also testimony that Siskauskis signed for illiterate employees, though, with one possible exception, apparently not against their will. Siskauskis denied that he made any such statements or that he ever solicited for Independent. The Board refused to believe that all the opposing testimony was fabricated, and found his denials unconvincing.
Lackhouse, an employee, testified that he obtained permission from Nyberg, his foreman, to solicit for Independent, Nyberg saying, “Well, if you have to, you have to, Frank, so you might as well go ahead on it.” Lack-house was delayed about half an hour in getting started when Olson, an assistant superintendent, took him aside in a separate room and, according to Lackhouse, “compared the differences between the outside union and the inside union; and he told me about it up there, how much better off we would be if we organized amongst us fellows, among our fellow workmen ourselves and kept the outside union out, that you will never get anywhere with them, just striking all the time, and give me the differences, and I listened to him about it.” Lackhouse testified that thereupon he solicited in the plant during working hours: “I was absent from my job from one' o’clock until quitting time walking through the whole foundry.”. On direct examination Olson denied this
There was considerable testimony, not denied, that Belov, a night boss, also solicited for Independent. According to one employee, Kalamarie, Belov did so on written instructions left by foreman McKinney which Kalamarie read. Kalamarie testified as follows respecting this conversation with Belov about those instructions:
“Q. So when he (Belov) got this note to solicit for the Independent Union he was a little bit puzzled by it and he asked your advice about it? A. He did. Q. You advised him that inasmuch as his superior officer, Mr.. McKinney, had ordered him to do it, he had better go ahead and do it? A. That is right, if he wanted to keep his job, I imagine he should.”
McKinney denied that he had left any such instructions, though it 'apparently was his custom to leave written instructions for the night bosses on things he wanted done. Belov was not called. Because of that and because . of the contradictory character of McKinney’s testimony on certain matters, the Board believed Kalamarie.
Tomas, an employee, testified that his boss, Big Louie, “a kind of assistant foreman,” solicited for Independent getting about ten signatures; that Big Louie told him that “they were trying to get the C. I. Q. out of there.”
. The court below was unable to find any evidence from which it could be inferred that the employees did not, with complete independence and freedom from domination, interference or support of the employer, form their own union. But we are of the opinion that
The Board had the right to believe that the maintenance of the company union down to the date when Independent’s membership drive was completed was not a mere coincidence. The circumstantial evidence makes credible the finding that complete freedom of choice on the part of the employees was effectively forestalled by maintenance of the company union by the employer until its abandonment would coincide with the recognition of Independent. The declared hostility towards an.
Respondents suggest that an order of disestablishment would make Independent an innocent victim of the employer’s inaction or of its unwelcome action. It is urged that the subsequent conduct of Independent demonstrates its independence and that an order directing the employer to cease and desist all interference with the employees and with Independent is wholly adequate for the evil at hand. The Board, however, was not forced to conclude that the subsequent activities of Independent erased the effects of the employer’s earlier discrimination, any more than it was compelled to believe that the employer’s later show of impartiality obliterated the consequences of its prior interference with the employees’ freedom of choice. We cannot assume that the employees will be free from improper restraints and will have the complete freedom of choice which the Act contemplates where the effect of the unfair labor practice is not completely dissipated. The Board not the courts determines tinder this statutory scheme how the effect of unfair labor practices may be expunged.
National Labor Relations Board
v.
Pennsylvania Greyhound Lines, supra; National Labor Relations Board
v.
Bradford Dyeing Assn.,
The order of disestablishment must be enforced.
Discharges of Employees. The court below rejected the finding of the Board that Salmons had -been discharged in violation of § 8 (1) and (3) of the Act. For. the reasons already stated, we think that the court erred and that the Board was right. 7
Karbol and Cumorich were discharged May 19, 1937. In April, 1937, Belov, according to their testimony, had asked them to join Independent. They refused. In the latter part of April, 1937, they joined Amalgamated.
The court below also refused to enforce the Board’s order reinstating and making whole Kalamarie who was discharged according to the Board because of his union activities. He, like Karbol and Cumorich,. did not accede to the solicitation of Belov on behalf of Independent. He had joined Amalgamated in March, 1937, was an active solicitor for it, and served on its grievance committee. As a member of that committee, he called on plant manager Berry to protest the lay-off of a union man. Shortly thereafter, Belov, Kalamarie’s night boss, received instructions from the day foreman to lay Kala-marie off for a. week if his- work did not improve. November 30, 1937, he was permanently laid off for an alleged lack of work as a welder and in connection with a general reduction of employees. Until his promotion as a welder a few months earlier Kalamarie for some time had been an acetylene burner.. He testified that when
The judgment is reversed and the cause is remanded to the Circuit Court of Appeals with directions to enforce the Board’s order in full.
Reversed.
Notes
These proceedings were instituted on charges filed in 1937 and 1938 by Lodge 16Q4 of Amalgamated Association of Iron, Steel and. Tin Workers of North America, affiliated with the Steel Workers, Organizing Committee, and through it with the Committee for Industrial Organization. The complaint, as amended, charged that the employer, respondent in No. 235, had engaged in unfair labor practices within the meaning of § 8 (1), (2), and (3) of the Act; 29 U. S. C. § 158 (1), (2), and (3). Independent Union of Craftsmen, respondent in No. 236, was allowed to intervene, was represented by counsel and participated throughout the proceedings. . '
The Board did not sustain the charges that certain other employees had been discharged because of their union .activities.
Subcommittee of the Committee on- Education and Labor, United States Senate, of which Senator Robert M. La Follette, Jr.,, was Chairman. This Subcommittee acted pursuant to S. Res. 266, 74th Cong’? ,Sess., .and. held extensive hearings beginning in 1936.
See note 1, supra. Amalgamated apparently bad about. 400 members before’ Independent started its membership drive in April-, 1937.
Salmons was rehired on December 21, 1936, after mediation by the Board on the understanding that he would not engage in union activities on company time.
Novak was reinstated in January, 1937, with the understanding that he would not engage in union activities on company time. According to him, the condition extended to union activities at all times. According to the company, it covered only union activities on company time. The Board did hot resolve the conflict but noted that No-vak as a result of his understanding, did not join Amalgamated until after the Act had been upheld in April, 1937. Novak delayed accepting the proposal of reinstatement because of the possible implication that thereby he would tacitly admit that he had earlier engaged in union activities.
The Board ordered no affirmative relief with respect to Salmons ' as he had been reinstated under an agreement with the company that he would not receive back pay.
No affirmative relief was ordered as respects Pete Solinko, who was laid off in January, 1938.
