OPINION
In this medical malpractice ease, Nancy Mathis, M.D. and Gary Mathis (“plaintiffs”) appeal from a summary judgment granted in favor of appellees, James R. Bocell, M.D. and Thomas Cain, M.D. In their sole point of error, Nancy and Gary Mathis complain that (1) the summary judgment evidence did not establish the absence of material fact issues and (2) the affidavits of Drs. Bocell and Cain were legally insufficient to support a summary judgment. We reverse and remand.
BACKGROUND
On September 14, 1992, Dr. David Lintner performed an arthroscopy of the lateral meniscus of Nancy Mathis’ right knee. According to Lintner’s operative report, which was attached to plaintiffs’ response to Cain’s motion for summary judgment, Lintner placed three ethibond sutures over Mathis’ meniscal tear. Four days later, Mathis went to Methodist Hospital because of the painful swelling in her knee. At the request of the physician who was on call for Lintner, Bocell examined Mathis. After examining Mathis and aspirating her knee, Bocell noted that Mathis’ temperature was over 102 degrees and her white blood cell count was elevated. At that point, Mathis underwent an arthroscopy with irrigation and debridement. Cultures taken at that time were positive for staph aureus. Mathis was treated with antibiotics.
On October 1, 1992, Mathis returned to Bocell’s office, where he removed her sutures. Bocell noted normal post-operative swelling. Mathis went to Bocell’s office several more times during the remainder of 1992. By February 1998, Mathis had discontinued taking parenteral antibiotics and had begun taking oral antibiotics. On February 9,1993, Bocell aspirated her knee. A culture taken at that time revealed no organisms. One week later, Mathis returned to BocelPs office and told him that her knee remained swollen to a certain degree in spite of the antibiotics. Mathis’ laboratory results did not reveal any cultures.
On March 5, 1993, Bocell performed an arthroscopic examination with joint debridement and explored the lateral incision on Mathis’ knee. Bocell did not “visualize” any sutures while exploring the incision. Bocell examined the inside of her knee for any foreign material as a possible nidus for infection. According to Bocell, the tissues were in good condition, and there were no signs of sutures. Over the next several months, Mathis took antibiotics and paid Bocell several visits.
On July 26, 1993, Cain examined Mathis, who complained of recurrent “flare-ups” of her knee whenever she decreased the usage of antibiotics. Cain noted that following Mathis’ initial surgery, she had “apparently developed an infection.” After examining Mathis, Cain had the impression that Mathis was suffering from “chronic synovitis of the right knee, possibly secondary to chronic sepsis.” Cain advised her that she might need an arthroscopy so that he could assess the intra-articular status of her surfaces and remove any ethibond sutures in her knee. On August 6, 1993, Cain performed the ar-throscopy. In his operative report, Cain noted that he removed two retained ethibond sutures from the repair site and sent them for biopsy and culture. In his affidavit, Cain noted that a section removed from Mathis’ *55 lateral meniscus showed an old suture with large areas of dense fibrous tissue but without any inflammation. This suture was submitted to the pathology lab. The pathology report indicated focal areas with slightly increased numbers of chronic inflammatory cells, but no acute inflammation. In addition, no organisms were found in the specimens. After this procedure, Mathis took parenteral antibiotics by central line.
In November 1993, Dr. Richard Buch performed an arthroscopy during which he removed two sutures from the area of Nancy Mathis’ posterior meniscus.
PROCEDURAL HISTORY
In their original petition, Nancy and Gary Mathis sued Bocell alleging that Bocell failed to (1) properly diagnose, manage, and treat Nancy’s post-operative infection and knee, (2) timely perform a subsequent irrigation and debridement of her knee in face of her recurring infection, and (3) use reasonable skill, care, and diligence to correctly perform a thorough irrigation and debridement of her knee in March 1993. Bocell moved for summary judgment arguing that nothing he did fell below the standard of care so as to cause or contribute to the damages of which plaintiffs complained. In support of his motion for summary judgment, Bocell attached his own affidavit.
Plaintiffs filed a response arguing that genuine issues of fact exist as to whether Bocell was negligent and whether that negligence caused Nancy Mathis’ injury. Plaintiffs attached the affidavit of their expert, Dr. Julio V. Westerband, to controvert the facts stated in Bocell’s affidavit. In his reply to plaintiffs’ response, Bocell argued that Wes-terband’s affidavit was fatally defective because plaintiffs did not attach the medical records upon which Westerband relied in forming his opinion. In response, plaintiffs filed a motion for leave to supplement Wes-terband’s affidavit with those medical records. The record does not indicate whether the trial court ruled on this motion. The trial court granted Bocell’s motion for summary judgment but did not rule on Bocell’s objection to Westerband’s affidavit.
While Bocell’s motion for summary judgment was pending, plaintiffs amended their petition, adding Cain as a defendant. Plaintiffs’ amended petition alleged — among other things — that (1) Cain failed to use reasonable skill, care, and diligence to correctly perform a thorough irrigation and debridement of Nancy Mathis’ knee in August 1993 by failing to remove the non absorbable sutures in her knee; (2) Bocell and Cain failed to determine the type and number of sutures used in the original surgery; and (3) Bocell and Cain failed to associate the presence of non-ab-sorbable sutures used in the meniscal repair as a nidus of Nancy Mathis’ continuing post-' operative infection.
Cain moved for summary judgment arguing that he did not breach the relevant standard of care. In support of his motion for summary judgment, Cain attached his own affidavit. In their response to that motion for summary judgment, plaintiffs argued that (1) Cain’s affidavit did not detail the standards of reasonably prudent orthopedic care and treatment for patients like Nancy Mathis; (2) Cain’s affidavit did not detail how he met the standards of reasonably prudent orthopedic care; (3) Cain’s affidavit was based on medical records not attached as summary judgment proof; (4) Cain’s affidavit was con-clusory; (5) genuine issues of material fact existed on negligence and causation because of inconsistencies between Cain’s affidavit and the medical records; and (6) Wester-band’s affidavit, which was attached to the response along with the medical records he relied upon in forming his opinion, created genuine fact issues regarding whether Cain breached the standard of care and whether that breach caused her injuries. In his reply, Cain argued that Westerband’s affidavit lacked credibility and did not raise a fact issue because Westerband never reviewed Cain’s records.
The trial court granted Cain’s motion for summary judgment, overruled plaintiffs’ procedural and evidentiary objections to Cain’s motion for summary judgment, and granted Cain’s objections to the eonclusory nature of Westerband’s affidavit.
*56 STANDARD OF REVIEW
In reviewing a summary judgment, we must take all evidence favorable to the non-movant as true and grant every reasonable inference in favor of the nonmoving party.
Nixon v. Mr. Property Management Co.,
The elements of a medical negligence claim are: (1) a duty to conform to a certain standard of care; (2) a failure to conform to the required standard; (3) actual injury; and (4) a reasonably close causal connection between the conduct and the injury.
Armbruster,
SUMMARY JUDGMENT FOR THE APPELLEES
The threshold question in a medical malpractice case is the standard of care, which must be established so the fact finder can determine if the defendant deviated from it.
Armbruster,
Dr. Bocell
In addition to setting out his credentials and qualifications in orthopedic surgery, Bo-cell’s affidavit stated, in relevant part:
Nancy B. Mathis was first seen by me on September 18, 1992, at the Methodist Hospital Emergency Room. Prior to my first encounter with Dr. Mathis she had undergone arthroscopic lateral meniscus repair by my colleague, Dr. David Lintner, and she had subsequently developed a painful swelling with a mild temperature elevation. Ms. Mathis was seen by me at the request of the physician on call for Dr. Lintner. After examination and aspiration was performed, the aspiration revealed multiple white cells without any bacteria, however, her fever had reached over 102 degrees. It was also determined that her white count was elevated to 11,000. At that point I recommended that she undergo surgical irrigation and debridement. This procedure was performed arthroscopically on the day of admission. Cultures taken at that time were positive for staph aureus. She was placed on antibiotics under the direction of the Infectious Disease Service.
She returned on October 29,1992, and was doing well at that time showing only very mild effusion with a healed wound, and an excellent range of motion. At that time she was continuing on a course of antibiotics under the direction of the Infectious Disease Service.
*57 She was seen again on January 6, 1993, and was doing well again at that time with little swelling and had no fever. It was noted on that occasion that she had two more weeks of parenteral antibiotics, and after that time was to be placed on oral antibiotics.
On February 17, 1993, she returned to the office and stated that as long as she kept her Cloxacillin dose high, her knee did not swell, though it always remained swollen to a certain degree. On examination, there was moderate swelling with no redness. Her laboratory studies at that time revealed only a 4,800 white cell count with no growth on any of her cultures. My recommendation at that time was an operative arthroscopy with exploration of the lateral incision and removal of any sutures which might be visualized. This course was also discussed with the infectious disease service.
On March 5, 1993, Dr. Mathis underwent reexamination arthroscopically with joint debridement and exploration of the lateral incision. No sutures were visualized while re-exploring the incision surgically. The knee was observed on the inside to evaluate the possibility any foreign material as a possible nidus for the infection. My examination arthroscopically revealed that the tissues were in good condition, there were no signs of sutures and it would have been an inappropriate course of action to have removed the good tissue visualized.
Throughout my treatment of Ms. Mathis, following irrigation and the debridement procedure in September, 1992, diagnostic testing conducted by me revealed no infection of the soft tissue. Her infection was purely confined to the intraarticular area, and during the two arthroscopic procedures, which I performed, no suture material was visible. Under those circumstances, it would not have been within the standard of care for a surgeon to remove normal meniscus in order to get down to underlying sutures with no signs of infection, redness or irritation in the tissue. The cultures and gram stains at the time that the second arthros-copy performed by me were the same as those in the office when her swollen knee was aspirated (that is that the gram stain was negative and that the cultures indicated that there was no growth). Based upon the results of both prior to and at the time of the second arthroscopic procedure, it is apparent that there was no active infective process present in the knee.
As a board certified orthopedic surgeon, I am familiar with the standard of care involved in arthropedie surgery, pre-opera-tive assessment of patients, and the technical aspects of orthopedic surgeiy, postoperative care, recognition, and treatment of complications.
I am familiar with the community standards of care involved at the performance involved with the orthopedic surgeiy, specifically arthropedie surgery, and the standard of care involved in performing arthroscopic surgery in utilization to determine the existence of any infectious process. There is no evidence as demonstrated by the arthroscopic procedures and the repeated culture and gram stains that there was any infectious process in Dr. Mathis’ knee relating to the presence of sutures during the time of my treatment of Dr. Mathis.
I am familiar with the community standards of care involved in orthopedic surgery and arthroscopic surgery, and it is my opinion that those minimum standards were not only met, but were exceeded in the care given to Dr. Mathis by me. Based upon reasonable medical probability, it is my opinion that no negligent acts of omission or commission produced the complaints allegedly experienced by Dr. Mathis or the damages which she alleges. The standard of medical doctors in my field of practice requires patients such as Nancy Mathis to be evaluated, diagnosed, and for treatment recommendations to be made to the patient and treatment rendered as required in accordance with the patient and the manor [sic] in which the patient is presented. The evaluation, diagnosis, and treatment which have been described above meet *58 or exceeded the standard of care in Houston, Harris County, Texas.
(Emphasis added.)
Plaintiffs contend that Bocell’s affidavit did not specifically establish the orthopedic standard of care and, therefore, is insufficient to sustain the summary judgment. We disagree. An interested expert’s affidavit is sufficient to establish compliance with the standard of care if the affiant (1) states that he is familiar with the applicable standard of care, (2) states with specificity each examination and treatment performed, (3) states that the acts of the physician were consistent with the appropriate standard of care, and (4) states that there was no causal connection between the physician’s acts and the plaintiff’s injury.
Griffin v. Methodist Hosp.,
In this case, Boeell’s affidavit met the requirements set out in Griffin. First, Bocell’s affidavit described with specificity each examination and treatment he performed on Nancy Mathis from September 1992, through September 1993. Second, Bocell’s affidavit stated he was familiar with the standard of care involved in orthopedic surgery, pre-op-erative assessment of patients, the technical aspect of orthopedic surgery, post-operative care, and the recognition and treatment of complications. Third, Bocell’s affidavit stated that the standard of medical doctors in his field of practice requires patients such as Nancy Mathis to be “evaluated, diagnosed, and for treatment recommendations to be made to the patient and treatment rendered as required in accordance with the patient and the manor [sic] in which the patient is presented.” Fourth, Bocell’s affidavit stated that the evaluation, diagnosis, and treatment of Nancy Mathis, which he described in the affidavit, met or exceeded the standard of care in Houston. Finally, Bocell’s affidavit states there was no causal connection between the infectious process in Nancy Mathis’ knee and the presence of sutures during his treatment of her. We conclude that Bo-cell’s affidavit was sufficient to establish compliance with the standard of care.
Plaintiffs also contend that fact issues exist as to whether Bocell was negligent in failing to remove the ethibond sutures and whether such failure to remove these sutures proximately caused Nancy Mathis’ injuries. They assert that although Bocell denied that he was negligent and that he proximately caused Nancy Mathis’ injuries, Westerband’s controversion of Bocell’s testimony raised genuine issues of material fact. Before we examine whether the Westerband affidavit raised a fact issue, we must decide whether the Westerband affidavit is proper summary judgment evidence.
Rule 166a requires that certified or sworn copies of all records or papers referred to in a supporting or opposing affidavit be attached to the affidavit. Tex.R. Civ. P. 166a(f). The last sentence of rule 166a(f) provides: “Defects in the form of affidavits or attachments will not be grounds for reversal unless specifically pointed out by objection by an opposing party with opportunity, but refusal, to amend.” Plaintiffs argue that Bocell waived his objections to the defective nature of Westerband’s affidavit because Bo-cell did not get a written ruling on his objection to plaintiffs’ failure to attach medical records to Westerband’s affidavit. A party must also obtain a ruling on an objection as to defects of form of an affidavit, or the objection is waived.
McConnell v. Southside Indep. Sch. Dist.,
*59 There is conflicting authority concerning the difference between a defect of substance and a defect of form in summary judgment evidence. Among the courts of appeals, there is contradiction, if not confusion, distinguishing the two. Rule 166a(f) refers only to “defect of form”: there is no mention of its counterpart, defect of substance. The application of one or the other is crucial because formal defects must be objected to and ruled upon by the trial court, while substantive defects may be raised for the first time on appeal.
The concept of defect in form in summary judgment proof first appeared in
Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Penn,
The
first mention of “substantive defect” appeared in
Landscape Design and Construction, Inc. v. Warren,
In interpreting rule 166a(f), several courts have held that the failure to attach copies of the documents relied upon in forming an expert opinion is a defect in substance, and therefore, can be raised for the first time on appeal.
See, e.g., Gorrell v. Texas Utils. Elec. Co.,
*60
Other courts have held that the failure to attach copies of the documents relied upon in forming an expert opinion is a waivable defect in form.
See, e.g., Martin v. Durden,
How can this conflict be resolved? We believe that the best way to analyze these defects is on the basis of admissibility versus competency of evidence. A defect is substantive if the evidence is incompetent, and it is formal if the evidence is competent but inadmissible.
See
Address by Justice Sarah B. Duncan,
No-Evidence Motions for Summary Judgment: Harmonizing Rule 166a(i) and its Comment,
21st Annual Page Keeton Products Liability and Personal Injury Law Conference (November 20-21, 1997) 25-26. Formal defects may be waived by failure to object, and if waived, the evidence is considered. Substantive defects are never waived because the evidence is incompetent and cannot be considered under any circumstances.
See
Address by Justice Sarah B. Duncan at 26 (“If evidence is incompetent, it necessarily has no probative value because it either does not relate to a controlling fact, or, if material, does not tend to make the existence of that fact more or less probable; therefore, there is no need to object to the erroneous introduction of incompetent evidence either to preserve the error in its admission or to ensure it is not treated as ‘some evidence.’ ”) (citing
Aetna Ins. v. Klein,
Following this reasoning, we conclude that the failure of Westerband to attach the medical records on which he relied is a defect of form. Clearly, the affidavit is competent: it recites Mathis’ medical history; it establishes the affiant as an expert in the field in which he is testifying; and it presents his expert opinion. The lack of underlying documents on which he relied makes the evidence inadmissible, not incompetent. Therefore, Bocell waived his objection when he failed to obtain a ruling by the trial court.
Having determined that Bocell waived his objection to the failure to attach the medical records to Westerband’s affidavit, we will now examine whether Wester-band’s affidavit raises fact issues regarding whether Bocell was negligent and whether such negligence proximately caused Mathis’ injury. Specifically, plaintiffs argue material fact questions exist as to whether Bocell was negligent in failing to (1) determine the type and number of sutures that were used in the original surgery performed by Lintner, (2) perform a thorough irrigation and debridement of Nancy Mathis’ knee and remove the non absorbable sutures in her knee, and (3) associate the presence of the non absorbable sutures used in the meniscal repair as a nidus of Nancy Mathis’ continuing post-operative infection. Plaintiffs also argue material fact questions exist as to whether Nancy Mathis had an infection in her knee and whether the failure to remove all the retained ethibond sutures caused and prolonged her infection.
Lintner’s operative report indicated that he placed three ethibond sutures over Nancy Mathis’ meniscal tear. Bocell placed Nancy Mathis on antibiotics after he performed an arthroscopic irrigation and debridement of her knee. After months of treating Nancy *61 Mathis, who complained of painful swelling whenever she discontinued the “parental antibiotics,” Bocell reexamined Nancy Mathis arthroscopically. Bocell did not “visualize” any sutures at that time. Westerband’s affidavit points out that Bocell reported that “ ‘[i]t was felt that the 2-0 Vicryl that had been used for the patient’s previous meniscus repair had been completely resorbed [sic].’ ” According to Westerband, had Bocell been aware that he should have been looking for ethibond sutures, which are nonabsorbable, he might have meticulously scrutinized the knee to find the presence of such sutures. Nevertheless, Bocell opined that it “would have been an inappropriate course of action to have removed the good tissue visualized ... in order to get down to the underlying sutures with no signs of infection, redness or irritation in the tissue.”
Contrary to Bocell’s assertion that there was no evidence of any infectious process relating to the presence of sutures during his treatment of Nancy Mathis, Westerband opined that Nancy Mathis suffered a chronic infection as a result of the retained ethibond sutures. Given these two contradicting statements as well as the inconsistencies regarding whether Bocell should have scrutinized the tissue more closely for the presence of ethibond sutures, we conclude that material fact issues exist. Thus, the trial court erred in granting summary judgment in favor of Bocell.
Dr. Cain
In response to Cain’s motion for summary judgment, plaintiffs again relied on the affidavit of Westerband. Attached to Westerband’s affidavit were the medical records upon which Westerband relied in forming his opinion. Plaintiffs argue that material fact issues exist as to whether Cain was negligent in failing to (1) determine the number of sutures that were used in the original surgery performed by Lintner, (2) perform a thorough irrigation and debridement of Nancy Mathis’ knee and remove the non absorba-ble sutures remaining in her knee, and (3) associate the presence of non absorbable sutures used in the meniscal repair as nidus of Nancy Mathis’ continuing postoperative infection. Plaintiffs also argue material fact questions exist as to whether (1) Nancy Mathis had an infection in her knee and (2) the failure to remove all the retained ethi-bond sutures caused and prolonged her infection. We agree.
Lintner’s operative report indicated that he placed three ethibond sutures over Nancy Mathis’ meniscal tear. Although Cain’s operative report indicated he removed two ethi-bond sutures from the repair site and sent them for biopsy and culture, the pathology report indicates that only one was submitted. Later, Buch removed two sutures from the area of Nancy Mathis’ posterior meniscus, but his operative report does not indicate whether they were ethibond sutures.
Cain noted in his affidavit that after the initial surgery, Nancy Mathis “apparently developed an infection.” The pathology report following Cain’s performance of an arthrosco-py on her knee indicated the presence of an increased number of chronic inflammatory cells. On the basis of this report, it became apparent to Cain that “there was no active infective process present in the knee at that time [time of the arthroscopy].” Mathis continued to take antibiotics after this arthrosco-py. Nevertheless, Cain stated in his affidavit that throughout his treatment of Nancy Mathis, his diagnostic testing did not indicate any infection of the soft tissue. Finally, Cain stated, “There is no evidence as demonstrated by the arthroscopic procedure and the culture and gram stains that there was any infectious process in Dr. Mathis’ knee relating to the presence of sutures or removal of sutures during the time of [his] treatment of Dr. Mathis.”
Contrary to Cain’s assertion that the infection, if any, in Nancy Mathis’ knee did not relate to the presence of sutures in her knee, Westerband opined that the failure to remove the retained ethibond sutures caused and prolonged Nancy Mathis’ infection. Given these two contradicting statements as well as the inconsistencies in the number or type of sutures removed, we conclude that material fact issues exist. Thus, the trial court erred in granting summary judgment in favor of Cain.
*62 CONCLUSION
We sustain point of error one. We reverse the summary judgments granted in favor of Bocel] and Cain and remand the cause for further proceedings.
