Ritz, Judge :
This suit is prosecuted for the purpose of cancelling and annulling certain deeds which it is claimed constitute clouds upon the plaintiff’s title to the coal in a certain tract of land *154situate in Wetzel county. In the month of October, 1901, Martha Curry, Silas H. Curry, William C. Curry and E. E. Curry, all infants under the age of fourteen years, being the owners of a small tract of land in Wetzel county, by their . guardian Levi K. Iioge, filed a petition in the circuit court of that county praying for authority to make a sale of the coal underlying said land, in accordance with the provisions of § 12 of ch. 88 of the Code. On the 8th day of October, 1901, .an order was entered by the circuit court ascertaining that notice had been given as required by law in the following language: “And the said petitioner also produced and filed a notice given by him to said defendants that on this day he would file said petition and ask that the same be heard; and it appearing to the court that the said notice has been duly served on all said defendants, on motion of said petitioner, it is adjudged, ordered and decreed that the said petition be and the same is now here filed, and said notice filed, and this proceeding docketed.” The court thereupon appointed a guardian ad litem for the infant defendants, and proceeded to a hearing upon the petition. After hearing the evidence introduced in support of the petition in the presence of the guardian ad litem, the court adjudged that it was to the interest of the infant defendants to make sale of the coal in said land, and authorized the guardian to make such sale. The sale was accordingly made by the guardian, reported to the court, and by it confirmed. After the infants became of age they sold and conveyed their interest in the land to the plaintiff, and he prosecutes this suit to set aside the deed made by the guardian of the infants conveying the coal, as well as certain deeds made thereunder, as constituting clouds, upon the title acquired by him. The question certified to this Court is the sufficiency of the bill on demurrer.
The bill proceeds upon the theory that the deed made by the guardian, and all deeds made subsequently thereto, having that deed for their basis, are absolutely void upon the alleged ground that no notice was given to the infants of the filing of the petition to sell their land, which fact is sought to be made to appear from a copy of the order of the county court appointing the petitioner guardian of the infants ea-*155tered- upon tbe .same day, upon which tbe petition to sell tbe lands was filed in tbe circuit court. Can the finding of tbe circuit court, as shown by its decree as above recited, be questioned in this way ? This is not a bill to review tbe proceeding had for tbe sale of this interest, nor is it a direct attack upon said proceeding, but it proceeds entirely upon tbe theory that tbe circuit court obtained no jurisdiction to sell tbe infants’ land, and that all proceedings bad by it were coram non judice. The attempt is made to show this lack of jurisdiction not by anything contained in tbe record of tbe proceeding in tbe circuit court, but by a record from tbe county court showing tbe appointment of the guardian on the very day upon which tbe proceeding was instituted' in the circuit court, and from this it is argued that the recital of the finding of the court in its decree that notice had been duly served is false. It is a general rule that the orders and decrees of a court touching a subject matter over which it has general jurisdiction are not open to collateral attack, except for want of jurisdiction. Of course, if it appears that such court did not have jurisdiction in the particular case, either because of the situation of the subject matter, or because of failure to acquire jurisdiction over the parties to be affected, any judgment rendered would be invalid and void. But how must this lack of jurisdiction appear? Gan a recital in a decree or judgment that the court found a certain fact to be true be contradicted by evidence aliunde? There are many cases which hold that while a judgment or decree rendered in a cause of which the court has general jurisdiction is not subject to attack collaterally, except for want of jurisdiction, this want of jurisdiction may be shown by the record of the proceeding itself. If it appears from the record of the case in which the judgment or decree was entered that the court entering it never acquired jurisdiction of the subject matter, or of the person, it may be that its judgment or decree is void and of none effect, but the attempt here is not to impeach the judgment or decree by anything appearing in the record of the proceeding in which it was rendered, but by evidence outside of that record. The policy of our law is to give to the judgments of the courts full faith and credit, unless it ap*156pears from the record of the proceeding in which the judgment was rendered that such court did not have jurisdiction to render it. Starcher v. Oil Co., 81 W. Va. 587, 95 S. E. 28; Town of Point Pleasant v. Greenlee, 63 W. Va. 207; White v. White, 66 W. Va. 79; Plant v. Humphries, 66 W. Va. 88. This conclusion is fully supported by the authorities. In Freeman on Judgments, § 131, that author says: “We have hitherto assumed that the question of the jurisdiction of a court of record over the parties to any domestic judgment must, in all collateral proceedings, be determined by the record; and that the answer to this question is not, except in some direct proceeding instituted against the judgment, to be sought from any extraneous proof. ’ ’ In Black on Judgments, § 273, the author says: “It commonly happens that the record itself will furnish evidence on the question of the jurisdiction of the court. And notwithstanding some vigorous dissent, the great majority of the decisions hold (in the case of a domestic as distinguished from a foreign judgment) that if the record shows the facts necessary to confer jurisdiction, 'or recites that jurisdiction did in fact attach, its averments are final and conclusive in every collateral proceeding, and cannot be contradicted by any extraneous evidence. This is in consequence of the great sanctity attached to judicial records by the common law and their ‘uncontrollable verity.’ It is said: ‘If upon inspection of the record it appears that no notice has been given, the judgment or decree is void. On the other hand, if it be a judgment or decree of a domestic court of general jurisdiction, and the record declares that notice has been given, such declaration cannot be contradicted by extrinsic proof. In such cases the judgment or decree is sustained, not because a judgment rendered without notice is good, but because the law does not permit the introduction of evidence to overthrow that which for reasons of public policy it treats as absolute verity. The record is conclusively presumed to speak the truth, and 'can be tried only by inspection.’ ” ' See also Works on Courts and their Jurisdiction, p. 127 etc. So in 15 R. C. L. at p. 893 the doctrine fully supported by the authorities is laid down as follows: “Accord^ ing to the common law rule, adhered to at the present time *157in most of the states,- the presumption in, favor of the jurisdiction of a court of general jurisdiction is conclusive and its judgment cannot be collaterally attacked where no wgnt of jurisdiction is apparent of record. "Whenever the record of such a court is merely silent upon any particular matter, it will be presumed, notwithstanding such silence, that whatever ought to have been done was not only done but that it was rightly done. So where the judgment contains recitals as to the jurisdictional facts these are deemed to import absolute verity unless contradicted by other portions of the record. Consequently such a judgment cannot be colláterally attacked in courts of the same state by showing facts aliunde the record, although such facts might be sufficient to impeach the judgment in a direct proceeding against it. The validity of a judgment when collaterally attacked must be tried by an inspection of the judgment roll alone, and no other or further evidence on the subject is admissible, not even evidence that no notice had been given.” See also 23 Cyc. 1086 and authorities there cited.
In this case the court rendering the decree, which it is now claimed was void and may be disregarded, found as matter of fact that process had been served as provided by law." This is not a direct proceeding to review that decree and to set the same aside. It is a collateral attack thereon. It would proceed regardless of the decree and simply say that because of lack of jurisdiction in the court its decree may be ignored. We are of the opinion that this cannot be done. We think that in a collateral proceeding like this the recitals of finding of fact upon which jurisdiction depends are conclusive and cannot be controverted by any evidence outside of the record of the proceeding in which the decree or judgment was entered. Of course,,if the record of that proceeding itself disclosed a lack of jurisdiction the case would be quite different, but so long as such lack of jurisdiction does not appear from such record the jurisdiction of the court to enter the decree cannot be questioned in a collateral proceeding.
It follows that the decree of the circuit court of Wetzel county overruling the demurrer mil be reversed, the demurrer sustained, and the cause remanded to the circuit court of *158Wetzel county with leave to the plaintiff' to amend-his bill, if he be so advised; and if not, with directions to dismiss'the same. " ' '
Reversed, and remanded.-