Lead Opinion
Opinion by JUDGE PREGERSON; Concurrence by JUDGE GRABER.
Marc Antoine Joseph petitions for review of the Board of Immigration Appeals’ (“BIA”) decision affirming an immigration judge’s (“IJ”) denial of his applications for asylum, withholding of removal, and relief under the Convention Against Torture (“CAT”). We have jurisdiction under 8 U.S.C. § 1252. The IJ found that Joseph was not credible. The main issue here is whether an IJ, who presides over the same petitioner’s bond hearing and removal hearing, may use her notes from the unrecorded bond hearing in reaching her decision in the removal hearing. We conclude that she may not. Because the other bases of the IJ’s and BIA’s adverse credibility finding were also erroneous, we grant the petition for review and remand to the BIA for it to determine whether, accepting Joseph’s testimony as true, he is eligible for relief.
L FACTS AND PROCEDURAL HISTORY
A. Joseph’s Testimony at his Removal Hearing
We summarize the testimony Joseph gave at his removal hearing on January 25, 2005. Joseph, a 29-year-old Haitian musician, started his own band in his hometown of Petite Riviere de l’Artibonite (“Artibonite”). In 2000, President Aristide visited Artibonite. After hearing Joseph sing, Aristide asked Joseph to create a musical group to support the Aristide movement in the Artibonite region. Joseph wrote music for the group,
After this initial encounter with Aristide, Joseph became involved with Aristide’s political party, “Lavalas.” Joseph organized meetings and protests for Lavalas in the Artibonite region and attended around 20 to 25 Lavalas meetings himself. Joseph testified that he supported Aristide “simply” because he thought that “Aristide
On April 22, 2004, Joseph held a Lavalas meeting at his house. Joseph testified that a man named “Dario,” who was a member and director of “Ramikos,” a group opposing Lavalas, came to Joseph’s house to disrupt the meeting. Dario pressured Joseph to join Ramikos and threatened to kill Joseph if he refused to join. When Joseph asked Dario to leave, Dario threw stones at Joseph, hitting him on the head. Dario then punched Joseph in the face. Joseph believes that if the other people present at the Lavalas meeting had not separated them, Dario would have killed Joseph because Dario was “known as a very dangerous man.” Later that night, between midnight and one in the morning, Dario returned, broke down the front gate of Joseph’s house, and started shooting. Joseph believed that Dario had returned to kill him. Joseph’s mother told Joseph to leave the house and “go very far away.”
Joseph fled from Artibonite to Lincour, where his friend Vladimir lived. Vladimir later returned to Joseph’s house and found that Ramikos members had severely beaten Joseph’s mother and raped Joseph’s sister. On June 1, 2004, Vladimir and his friends were playing dominoes in front of the house when they saw Dario and around 20 other Ramikos members approaching. Joseph, believing that Dario had come to kill him, fled from Lincour to Port-au-Prince. When Joseph arrived in PorNau-Prince he stayed with Vladimir’s friend, Herold, for 23 days before leaving Haiti.
After Joseph left Haiti, on July 29, 2004, Joseph’s cousin, Dumarsais Riker, visited Joseph’s mother in Artibonite. Joseph and his cousin were similar in appearance and wore the same clothes. Joseph believes that Ramikos shot and killed Dumarsais, burned Dumarsais’s car, and destroyed Joseph’s mother’s house because they mistook Dumarsais for Joseph. Joseph submitted into evidence photographs of Dumarsais’s body, his car, and the destroyed house. According to Joseph, his mother and sister moved to avoid further harassment by Ramikos. Joseph’s girlfriend ended their relationship because of harassment from Dario and Ramikos.
Joseph left Haiti because “members of the group of Ramikos and Dario were looking for [him] to kill” him. Joseph explained that Ramikos had become even more powerful and is now associated with a group named “184.” Joseph testified that Ramikos and 184 can do whatever they want in Haiti and would kill Joseph if he returned. Joseph believes that the groups opposed to Lavalas, including 184, would “know [his] name and would eventually kill[him]” anywhere in Haiti.
Joseph entered the U.S. from Mexico, without documents, on or around July 2, 2004. On July 4, 2004, U.S. Border Patrol Officers apprehended Joseph and issued a Notice to Appear charging Joseph with entering the U.S. without inspection. On August 5, 2004, Joseph appeared without counsel at his master calendar hearing be
B. The IJ Considered Her Bond Hearing Notes During Joseph’s Removal Hearing
According to the IJ’s bond hearing notes and contrary to the testimony Joseph gave during his removal hearing, Joseph “testified that he left Haiti because a group of President Aristide’s wants to kill him.” The bond hearing notes indicate that Joseph also testified that he was a member of a band that played every Easter. According to the IJ’s bond hearing notes, Joseph testified that Dario was a member of a pro-Aristide group, rather than an anti-Aristide group as Joseph later testified during his removal hearing. Further, the IJ’s bond hearing notes reflect that Dario argued with Joseph and threw rocks at him because Dario wanted to break up Joseph’s band, not because, as Joseph later testified at his removal hearing, Dario wanted Joseph to join Ramikos, the antiAristide group.
On January 25, 2005, the same IJ presided over Joseph’s removal hearing. At this hearing the IJ sought to supplement the record with her notes from Joseph’s bond hearing. Joseph’s counsel challenged the propriety of including the bond hearing notes in the record of Joseph’s removal hearing because there was no transcript of the bond hearing. Nonetheless, the IJ’s bond hearing notes were typed into a bond memorandum and included in the record of Joseph’s removal hearing.
C. The IJ and BIA decisions
On January 25, 2005, the IJ denied Joseph’s claim for asylum, withholding of removal, and relief under CAT because she had “very real concerns regarding the credibility of [Joseph’s] claim.” The IJ found that Joseph submitted a detailed declaration and detailed testimony at his removal hearing. Because of that detail, the IJ stated that she “would have expected ... a more thorough explanation, during the bond hearing, with respect to [Joseph’s] fear, his past persecution.” Specifically, the IJ “would have expected to have been told of persecution and assaults on [Joseph’s] family” when she asked Joseph at his bond hearing why he had left Haiti.
The BIA affirmed the IJ’s decision and specifically stated that it found that the record supported the IJ’s adverse credibility finding. The BIA found “no error on the part of the [IJ] in noting the inconsistencies between the claim presented by [Joseph] during his bond hearing and that presented subsequently during his merits hearing.” The BIA also denied Joseph’s motion to remand, which Joseph had filed alongside his appeal.
II. STANDARD AND SCOPE OF REVIEW
Where the BIA cites Matter of Burbano, 20 I. & N. Dec. 872 (B.I.A.1994), and does not express disagreement with any part of the IJ’s decision, the BIA adopts the IJ’s decision in its entirety. See, e.g., Abebe v. Gonzales,
Here, the BIA cited Matter of Burbano and emphasized that it found the IJ’s adverse credibility finding “supported by the record.” After the BIA explained why it agreed with the IJ’s adverse credibility
Credibility determinations are reviewed under the substantial evidence standard. Soto-Olarte v. Holder,
III. DISCUSSION
A. The IJ Erred by Considering Her Bond Hearing Notes During the Removal Hearing
We must decide whether the IJ erred in considering her unrecorded notes from Joseph’s bond hearing during his later removal hearing. The BIA found that the IJ had not erred in “noting the inconsistencies between the claim presented by [Joseph] during his bond hearing, and that presented subsequently during his merits hearing.” Joseph argues that the IJ’s consideration of her notes from Joseph’s unrecorded bond hearing was an error. In support of his claim, Joseph cites 8 C.F.R. § 1003.19(d). This regulation, which pertains to bond hearings, states that “[consideration by the[IJ] of an application or request of a respondent regarding custody or bond under this section shall be separate and apart from, and shall form no part of, any deportation or removal hearing or proceedings.” 8 C.F.R. § 1003.19 (emphasis added).
In response, the government cites 8 C.F.R. § 1240.7(a), pertaining to removal hearings, which states that the IJ “may receive in evidence any oral or written statement that is material and relevant to any issue in the case previously made by the respondent or any other person during any investigation, examination, hearing, or trial.” The government argues that this regulation renders the IJ’s bond hearing
1. 8 C.F.R. § 1240.7(a) Does Not Apply Here
At first blush, 8 C.F.R. § 1003.19(d) and 8 C.F.R. § 1240.7(a) seem to be in conflict. We need not, however, resolve that conflict here or attempt to harmonize the regulations because § 1240.7(a) does not apply to Joseph’s case. Section 1240.7(a) allows the receipt in evidence of an “oral or written statement” made by the asylum seeker, or another person, during “any investigation, examination, hearing, or trial.” Here, the evidence was not of such a “statement”; rather, the evidence in question was the IJ’s own notes, not part of the record, taken by the IJ during Joseph’s unrecorded, uncounseled bond hearing. No transcript exists for Joseph’s bond hearing.
2. Bond and Removal Hearings are Distinct and Evidence from a Bond Hearing Should Not be Considered in a Removal Hearing
The case law, although sparse, supports Joseph’s argument that § 1003.19(d) precludes the IJ from considering evidence from a bond hearing, in this case the IJ’s notes, in determining a petitioner’s credibility at a removal hearing. The BIA has noted that “bond and removal are distinctly separate proceedings.” In re R-S-H-, 23 I. & N. Dec. 629, 630 n. 7 (B.I.A.2003) (citing 8 C.F.R. § 1003.19(d)); see also Bobb v. Attorney Gen. of U.S.,
Although the Ninth Circuit has not interpreted 8 C.F.R. § 1003.19(d), the Seventh Circuit discussed 8 C.F.R. § 1003.19(d) in Flores-Leon v. INS,
The BIA has not specifically interpreted this aspect of 8 C.F.R. § 1003.19(d) in a published opinion. The case most closely on point is In re Adeniji, in which the BIA held that evidence presented in an alien’s removal hearing, which was conducted before the bond hearing, could not be considered during the separate bond hearing unless it was made part of the bond record. 22 I. & N. Dec. 1102, 1115 (B.I.A.1999) (en banc). Although In re Adeniji indicates that evidence from a removal hearing, if made part of the record, can be considered in a bond hearing, it gives us strong reason to believe that the converse is not true. That is, In re Adeniji suggests that evidence from a bond hearing should not be considered during a removal hearing. In particular, in her concurrence and dissent, BIA Member Lory Rosenberg explains that the “underlying purpose of the regulation [§ 1003.19(d) ] is not to limit the information an [IJ] may consider in redetermining bond, but to [ensure] that evidence presented in the far more informal bond hearing does not taint the ultimate adjudication of the charges of removability.” Id. at 1126. Thus, the BIA’s decision that evidence from a removal hearing may be considered in redetermining bond is “notwithstanding the rule that evidence presented at a bond hearing cannot be used to establish removability.” Id. We find this explanation highly persuasive in support of our conclusion that § 1003.19(d) precluded the IJ in Joseph’s case from relying on her notes from the bond hearing.
The Immigration Court Practice Manual also suggests that Joseph’s interpretation of the regulation is correct. Section 9.3(a) cites 8 C.F.R. § 1003.19(d) and states that “[b]ond proceedings are separate from removal proceedings.” Further, § 9.3(e)(iv) of the Immigration Court Practice Manual states that, in a bond hearing, the IJ “creates a record, which is kept separate from the Records of Proceedings for other Immigration Court proceedings involving the alien.” There would be little utility in keeping separate records of the proceedings if the IJ could freely commingle these records.
The Immigration Court Practice Manual also shows that the purpose of a bond hearing departs significantly from the purpose of an asylum hearing. According to the Practice Manual, the purpose of a bond hearing is for the detained immigrant to “make an oral statement ... addressing whether the alien’s release would pose a danger to property or persons, whether the alien is likely to appear for future immigration proceedings, and whether the alien poses a danger to national security.” Practice Manual § 9.3(e)(vi). Thus, the purpose of a bond hearing, to determine whether an alien in custody should be released, markedly differs from the purpose of a removal hearing, which is to determine whether the petitioner is removable and whether he or she is eligible for relief from removal.
Therefore, the IJ in Joseph’s case strayed from the purpose of a bond hearing when she apparently asked him why he left Haiti. Further, the IJ had no reason
3. Statements from Less Formal Proceedings Do Not Undermine an Applicant’s Credibility During the Applicant’s Removal Hearing
Our precedent gives us reason to preclude the IJ from relying in removal proceedings on notes from a bond hearing. We have rejected adverse credibility findings that relied on differences between statements a petitioner made during removal proceedings and those made during less formal, routinely unrecorded proceedings. Two examples of these less formal proceedings are airport interviews and affirmative asylum interviews.
In Singh v. INS, we recognized that “[requiring evidentiary detail from an airport interview not only ignores the reality of the interview process, but would, in effect, create an unprecedented preasylum process.”
In another case, Singh v. Gonzales, we found that “[cjertain features of an asylum interview make it a potentially unreliable point of comparison to a petitioner’s testimony for purposes of a credibility determination.”
Bond hearings, like airport interviews and affirmative asylum interviews, are far less formal than removal hearings.
4. The IJ Erred in Finding Joseph Not Credible Based on His Omission of Detail at His Bond Hearing
As discussed above, the IJ erred in considering her notes from Joseph’s bond hearing in reaching a decision in his removal hearing. Because of this error, any omission of detail regarding Joseph’s fear of persecution at his bond hearing cannot undermine his credibility for the purposes of the claims Joseph asserted during his removal hearing.
In this case, the IJ found Joseph not credible in part because she claimed he did not discuss the harm suffered by his mother and sister in Haiti during his bond hearing. The IJ also stated that, “in light of [Joseph’s] detailed declaration and testimony,” the court would have expected “a more thorough explanation, during the bond hearing, with respect to [Joseph’s] fear, his past persecution.” The government, citing Alvarez-Santos v. INS,
As discussed above, however, the IJ should never have considered her notes from Joseph’s unrecorded bond hearing. If the IJ had not improperly considered those notes during Joseph’s removal hearing, there would have been no issue as to omission of detail.
B. Substantial Evidence Does Not Support the IJ’s Adverse Credibility Finding
The next issue is whether the IJ’s other findings support her adverse credibility finding. The BIA and IJ erred in basing their adverse credibility finding on several findings: 1) Joseph’s failure to provide Dario’s last name; 2) Joseph’s lack of understanding of the complex political situation in Haiti; 3) Joseph’s failure to depart Haiti sooner; and 4) Joseph’s failure to submit sufficient corroborating evidence.
1. The BIA Erred in Finding Joseph Not Credible Because Joseph Did Not Provide Dario’s Last Name
The BIA commented that Joseph had never given Dario’s last name. At the removal hearing, this issue was never raised. The BIA thus did not provide Joseph with an opportunity to offer an explanation for his failure to give Dario’s last name. See Campos-Sanchez v. INS,
2. The IJ Erred in Basing her Adverse Credibility Finding on Joseph’s Lack of Understanding of Haiti’s Complex Political Situation
The IJ claimed that Joseph “makes the argument that he was a high ranking member of Lavalas, and an easily identified public figure.” The IJ found that, “[d]espite this claim, [Joseph] has a very simple and rudimentary understanding of the complexity of the political strife in Haiti.” The IJ stated in her decision that she was “not willing to conclude that [Joseph’s] understanding of the actual political problems in [Haiti] is limited to his belief that President Aristide would end poverty and improve the economy in Haiti.” The IJ found Joseph’s “understanding” to be
somewhat alarming in light of the fact that he was in Haiti during the period of time when there was great violence being committed by pro-Aristide vigilantes, chimeres. The country condition report, which the Court has reviewed, clearly established that prior to the departure of President Aristide from Haiti in February 2004, that although there were anti-Government demonstrations and rallies, President Aristide had given the civil population authority to act outside the law. The fact that [Joseph] is unaware of this situation is of concern to this Court.
The IJ later found that Joseph testified that Aristide “did not have armed militias, and were not involved in violence,” but the IJ determined that Joseph’s testimony contradicted “the objective evidence.”
Under Shah v. INS, “[speculation and conjecture cannot form the basis of an adverse credibility finding, which must instead be based on substantial evidence.”
3. The IJ and BIA Erred in Basing Their Adverse Credibility Finding on Joseph’s Failure to Leave Haiti Sooner
The IJ also erred when she improperly speculated that Joseph never intended to travel to Mexico to study computer science. The IJ found that his testimony regarding his flight from Haiti was not credible. The IJ concluded that the “record establishes that [Joseph] left Haiti not in response to persecution, but when he had the non-immigrant visa, and made the decision to depart.” The BIA affirmed the IJ’s opinion on this issue, finding that Joseph “failed to adequately explain why he did not depart his country until June 24, 2004, although the alleged attacks occurred in April 2004, and he was then in possession of a valid visa which did not expire until May 2004.”
Joseph first experienced a problem with Dario and Ramikos on April 22, 2004, and departed Haiti two months and two days later. In April 22, 2004, Joseph fled from Artibonite to Lincour. He remained there
The IJ and BIA engaged in speculation when they assumed that Joseph’s failure to leave Haiti sooner undermined his credibility. See Paramasamy v. Ashcroft,
4. The IJ and BIA Erred in Basing Their Adverse Credibility Finding on Joseph’s Failure to Provide Corroborative Evidence
The IJ required corroborative evidence because she found that Joseph’s credibility was undermined by his inconsistent accounts of his reasons for leaving Haiti according to the notes the IJ took during Joseph’s bond hearing and Joseph’s testimony during his removal hearing. As discussed above, the IJ erred in relying on her notes from the bond hearing and the other findings the BIA and IJ made in reaching the adverse credibility determination were also erroneous. Substantial evidence does not support the adverse credibility finding. Thus, Joseph is deemed credible and, under the law pertaining to his case,
We remand to the BIA to determine Joseph’s eligibility for relief from removal. In the facts and circumstances of this case, we hold that the BIA must accept Joseph’s testimony as true. See Soto-Olarte,
D. Motion to Remand
Because we grant Joseph’s petition for review, vacate the BIA’s adverse credibility finding, and remand pursuant to INS v. Orlando Ventura,
IV. CONCLUSION
We hold that an IJ may not consider her notes from a petitioner’s bond hearing in that petitioner’s removal hearing. Bond hearings and removal hearings are separate proceedings and serve separate purposes. Further, bond hearings lack procedural safeguards to ensure reliability, including the requirement of an oath and a transcript of the proceedings. Thus, testimony given in bond hearings, as stated under 8 C.F.R. § 1003.19(d) shall be “separate and apart from, and shall form no part of, any deportation or removal hearing or proceedings.”
Because the IJ erred in considering her bond hearing notes in Joseph’s removal hearing, to the extent that her adverse credibility relies on those notes, it is not supported by substantial evidence. Apart from the IJ’s error in considering her bond hearing notes, the remaining grounds upon which the IJ and BIA based their adverse credibility finding are not supported by substantial evidence because the IJ failed to give Joseph an opportunity to explain the discrepancy, relied on speculation and conjecture, and imposed an erroneous requirement of corroborative evidence. Therefore we deem Joseph credible.
Joseph argues that he has established past persecution and a well-founded fear of future persecution. Because the IJ’s adverse credibility finding was not supported by substantial evidence, this court should grant Joseph’s petition and remand to the BIA for further proceedings to determine whether, accepting Joseph’s testimony as credible, he is eligible for relief. See, e.g., Singh v. Gonzales,
The government shall bear the costs for this petition for review.
The petition for review is GRANTED and REMANDED.
Notes
. The lyrics from the songs that Joseph composed for Aristide were admitted into evidence in immigration court. In court, Joseph sang one of the songs, which roughly translated as: "The rich, the people above, we are the bottom, you know, we are misery, we are misery. The people up there, they’re rich, they’re pushing us down, we're still in misery, we're still in misery.”
. Joseph had applied for and secured a Mexican visa in December 2003, which expired on May 11, 2004, because he wanted to go to Mexico to study computer engineering. Joseph had previously studied computers in Haiti for 5 months. Joseph decided not to leave Haiti as planned in January 2004 because he was "very busy in preparation of independence day in Haiti," organizing events on behalf of Lavalas. After the incidents with Ramikos in April and June 2004, Joseph secured a second Mexican visa and traveled through Mexico to tire United States.
. We apply pre-REAL ID Act standards because Joseph filed his application for relief on December 3, 2004, which was before May 11, 2005, the effective date of the REAL ID Act. See Sinha v. Holder,
. Title 8 C.F.R. § 1003.19(d) refers to the contents of the bond hearing as a whole, rather than just an "application or request" for bond, because no such application or formal request is required. Section 1003.19(b) states that an application for bond "may be made orally, in writing, or, at the discretion of the [IJ] by telephone." The Immigration Court Practice Manual, first published in February 2008 at the direction of the Attorney General, states that a "request for bond hearing may be made in writing. In addition ... a request for bond hearing may be made orally in court or, at the discretion of the Immigration Judge, by telephone.” The Office of the Chief Immigration Judge, Immigration Court Practice Manual, § 9.3(c), available at http://www.justice.gov/eoir/vll/ OJICPracManual/Chap9. pdf (last visited Apr. 2, 2010). Section 9.3(e)(v) states that the documents for an IJ to consider are "filed in open court or, if the request for a bond hearing was made in writing, together with the request." The detained immigrant "should make an oral statement ... addressing whether the alien’s release would pose a danger to property or persons, whether the alien is likely to appear for future immigration proceedings, and whether the alien poses a danger to national security.” Id. Thus, because there is no written "application” or "request" regarding bond, 8 C.F.R. § 1003.19(d) refers to the entire bond hearing, and not only the written application or request for bond.
. This is in keeping with the general practice for bond hearings. Section 9.3(e) of the Immigration Court Practice Manual states: "Bond hearings are less formal than immigration court proceedings.” § 9.3(e); see also Matter of Chirinos, 16 I. & N. Dec. 276 (B.I.A. 1977). The BIA Practice Manual states that "[b]ond hearings are seldom recorded and are not routinely transcribed.” BIA Practice Manual at § 7.3(b)(ii), available at http:// www.justice.gov/eoir/vll/qapracmanual/ pracmanual/chap7.pdf (last visited Apr. 2, 2010); see also Immigration Court Practice Manual § 9.3(e)(iii) ("Bond hearings are generally not recorded.”); § 9.3(vi) ("At the [IJ’s] discretion, witnesses may be placed under oath and testimony taken. However, parties should be mindful that bond hearings are generally briefer and less formal than hearings in removal proceedings.”). Although only one published federal decision has cited the Immigration Court Practice Manual, we find it lo be a useful resource to determine the procedure before the IJ. See Vongsa Sengkeo v. Horgan,
. See discussion supra note 5.
. The American Bar Association's Commission on Immigration has documented the low levels of representation for detained immigrants. In a 2004 report, the ABA reports that "only ten percent of people detained by ICE secure legal representation in their cases.” ABA Commission on Immigration, Immigration Detainee Guide, 1 (ABA 2004), available at http://www. abanet.org/publicserv/immigration/probonoguidefinal.pdf (last visited Apr. 2, 2010). In a 2010 report, the ABA reports that 84% of detained immigrants do not have representation. ABA Commission on Immigration, Executive Summary on Reforming the Immigration System: Proposals to Promote Independence, Fairness, Efficiency, and Professionalism in the Adjudication of Removal Proceedings, ES-7, ES-39 (ABA 2010), available at http://new.abanet. org/Immigr ation/Documents/ReforminglheImmigrationSystem ExecutiveSummary.pdf (last visited Apr. 2, 2010).
. Because Joseph filed his claim for asylum before May 11, 2005, we apply the Pre-REAL ID Act standard for corroborating evidence. Under the pre-REAL ID Act case law, corroborating evidence cannot be required from an applicant who testifies credibly. See Ladha v. INS,
. The IJ also erred by not giving Joseph an opportunity to explain his failure to provide additional corroborating evidence. See Sidhu v. INS, 220 F.3d 1085, 1091 (9th Cir.2000); Arulampalam,
Concurrence Opinion
specially concurring:
I agree that the petition in this case must be granted. But I write separately to express my view that, in situations other than the particular one presented here, statements made at a bond hearing may be admissible and may support an adverse credibility determination.
I reach this conclusion largely because of the nature of the alleged conflicts between the IJ’s notes and Petitioner’s testimony. The IJ relied on a perceived lack of detail, but that reliance is insufficient. Singh,
In other situations, however, statements made at a bond hearing might be admissible and might support an adverse credibility determination. For instance, if a transcript of the proceeding were available, neither the regulations nor common sense would prohibit the use of statements made by the petitioner or by other witnesses. In that situation, the regulations permit consideration of any witness’ prior statements. 8 C.F.R. § 1240.7(a).
In my view, 8 C.F.R. § 1003.19(d) is not to the contrary. That regulation states, in relevant part, that “[cjonsideration by the Immigration Judge of an application or request of a respondent regarding custody or bond under this section shall be separate and apart from, and shall form no part of, any deportation or removal hearing or proceeding.” That is, at a later removal hearing, the IJ may not consider the fact that an alien has applied for or requested bond, but the regulation does not prohibit the IJ from considering relevant statements made at a bond hearing.
. I agree with the majority opinion that the IJ’s other reasons for the adverse credibility determination are not supported by substantial evidence.
