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Joe Freddie Fleming v. James A. Collins, Director, Texas Department of Criminal Justice, Institutional Division
954 F.2d 1109
5th Cir.
1992
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*1 H09 FLEMING, Petitioner- Freddie Joe

Appellant, Director, COLLINS, Texas De A.

James Justice, Institu partment of Criminal Division, Respondent-Appellee.

tional 88-1334.

No. Fleming, pro se. Freddie Joe Appeals, Bozarth, Gen., Atty. States Court Jim United Asst. S. Michael Gen., Austin, Tex., Circuit. Mattox, Fifth for re- Atty. spondent-appellee. 6, 1992. March BROWN, CLARK, Judge,1

Before Chief WILLIAMS, GARWOOD, POLITZ, KING, HIGGINBOTHAM, DAVIS, JOLLY, SMITH, DUHÉ, WIENER, JONES, GARZA, EMILIO M. BARKSDALE and Judges.2 Circuit JONES, Judge: EDITH H. Circuit corpus case this habeas We voted state public explore the reach en banc to prophylac- safety exception to Miranda’s3 rights. amendment protecting fifth tic rules 104 York v. New (1984). Dis- 550 81 L.Ed.2d S.Ct. apply majority, we agreeing panel with case and safety exception denial of Flem- court’s affirm the district corpus.4 of habeas ing’s petition for writ I. FACTS men, 20, 1979, includ- three February On State the Buckner ing Fleming, entered appar- Dallas, pistols, armed Bank attempt it. Their intending to ently rob security efforts foiled the heroic who, being pistol after Hider guard Hubert head, managed to knock whipped about the of the felons of one gun out of the hand Arizona, S.Ct. U.S. 86 Judge Miranda v. Chief 3. opinion This was concurred 1. (1966). 16 L.Ed.2d resignation from the Court on prior Clark to his January 1992. alleged grounds for Fleming raised two appeal. original brief on in his habeas relief DeMoss, 2.Judge Jr. was sworn R. Harold The en issues. panel those did not consider argued the En Banc Court after this case those non-en remands court herewith banc bancworthy participate en banc in this not to resolu- and elected for final issues Fleming’s case. decision. tion of *2 Q: location was that? And what weapon. were his own Shots and retrieve the assailants fled Hider. As fired at Bank at 3600 The Buckner State A: bank, Fleming, con- but Hider Buckner. North a used car dealer- running toward tinued partner you, or Q: you have a Did away. ship a block squad you your car? were alone working at the dealer- Adams was Don partner. A: I had a of his Fleming crossed the front ship when you got to the Buckner State Q: When gunshot, that it heard a saw Adams lot. call, your you did no- Bank to answer Fleming, and saw the hit seemed to have going anything unusual on there? tice guards in a commotion. security bank A: I never made the bank. stop Adams’s at Fleming refused Q: something stop you be- Did unusual going into the medi- kept on command and you got to the Buckner State fore retreat, road, looking for a safe Bank? jumped into his He Adams followed. Yes, ma’am. A: truck, pistol was a loaded wrecker where Q: that have been? What would nearby in a stored, Fleming off and cut Adams, standing beside the wrecker field. Buckner, In of North A: the 3500 block pinned Fleming brandishing pistol, his field, men in a and one there were two ground. kneeling on the hand, pistol in of them had a one was over on the the other bent frieze riveted the attention This dramatic ground on his knees. Montgomery police officers Jan of Dallas partner driving Q: Okay. you your Did and Valerie Dentherio in the field? approach to its silent the two men the bank toward alarm, triggered a few minutes earlier. Yes, ma’am, we did. A: the bank and did not They never reached time, Q: you any have con- At that did gone off whether the alarm then know with either of the men? versation in error. A: both of the men. With described What followed can best be Q: Okay. you your pistol have Did testimony at Montgomery’s Officer drawn? hearing.5 suppression Yes, ma’am, did. A: we you man Q: Okay, and did order the EXAMINATION DIRECT standing there with a who was BY MS. LUDWICK: ground to pointed at the one on the name, Q: please. your State drop gun? Montgomery. A: Jan Yes, A: we did. Q: Montgomery, I notice that Ms. Q: you Did later determine that you’re wearing a uniform of the Dallas not a robber? a witness and bank long have Department. Police How Yes, did. we you with the Dallas Police De- been the bank Q: later determine partment? the one who was on robber years August.

A: Nine ground? Q: duty on around 1:15 in the Were ma’am, Yes, we did. February the 20th of afternoon you to Q: long did it take About how 1979? figure that out? ma’am, Yes, was. minutes. to three A: About two time, did receive a About that go to a silent alarm location? figured call out you finally And when the man on Yes, ma’am, the bank robber was I did. testimony. Montgomery’s quoted panel opinion excerpts trial testimony, is consistent with the above- which

HH object leading, Your under MR. BERG: you place him ground, Honor. arrest? Ludwick) Q: (By say any- Did he Ms. did. we anybody thing about whether or not the man was on time that At the *3 shot or shots had been fired been drop, to so you and ground at the bank? guy in front of speak, on said, him,” robber, “I A: Yes. He did not shoot as well as bank

wrecker any- referring guard. to the ground say on the the man did thing? within, say, Q: Okay. Did all this occur you of the time that Yes, three minutes he did. A: placed him arrived on the scene and say? he Q: did What arrest? under said, I’m shot.” “I’m shot. A: He A: In minutes from the time we three any- you Did tell him to do Q: Okay. thirty got the call. We were seconds thing? up from the call when we came on the up put him to his hands I told A: Yes. men in the field. he I tell whether in the air. couldn’t Q: happened incredibly it all fast? So I know who he was. armed. didn’t was A: Yes. up, put him his hands And so I told said, I’m Q: you talking “I can’t. I’m shot. At the time that were he shot, you if he the man didn’t know shot.” or the robber was a bank robber bank out a you check that Q: Okay. Did guy or what? was the with little further? if were con- A: I didn’t even know finally raised or ma’am. He A: robbery. nected to the bank and I left arm attempted to raise his he weapons Q: him for he told search down Until did guard he did have a hole—I at the bank? shot determined just jacket hole in his could see the Right. He had shot. his elbow. been above cross-examination, Montgom- Officer On Q: put him to his After instructed give not ery acknowledged that she did else to up, you say anything hands warnings until after she Fleming Miranda him? he was connected determined that him, you?” be- I “Who shot asked explained again her robbery. She bank if it the man I didn’t know was cause Fleming: questioning for reason gun. I didn't know who he holding the him, you?” be- “Who was with I asked said, “The man anything and he was or more if there was cause we didn’t know at the bank.” and I didn’t want people involved the bank said that the man at He back, to a were close in the and we him? had shot buildings a half a block about row of Yes. bank, if there and I didn’t know from running loose around anything else? more of them you ask him was him, what, I “Who was and asked or questions. I asked him several said, alone,” and “I was and he you?” said, you?” And he “Who was with him his name. I asked then said, alone,” “I and I asked me, “Johnny Ray name and he told

his not acknowledged that She gave us. the name he Powers” was time she arrived from the free to leave Q: Okay. if he know “I didn’t the scene because I don’t or what and [Fleming] was a victim gun?” I asked “Where figure out away until anybody get said, he let dropped “I it.” And and he an of a crime or they are a victim get any money,” and whether “I didn’t foregoing testi- on the in it.” Based minutes actor couple the first of

that was Flem- admitted trial court mony, the state conversation— II. DISCUSSION part as incriminating statements ing’s gestae. the res designed pro- warnings were Miranda rights fifth amendment tect an individual’s two trial, Adams testified that Don At interrogation by law en- during custodial him and approached police officers female suspect They advise a officers. forcement drawn, told him to guns quarry with to have rights to remain silent and of his Fleming. He frisked drop incriminating any attorney and that continued: against him. That may used statement be away from far How custody” “in here and that at Fleming was officer, from and the Montgomery’s ques- least some Officer officer? lady police interrogation tions could be described *4 are not contested.6 him Well, I wasn’t far from at first ground, him the but I had when recognized, has how- Supreme they up they up, drove drove when ever, narrow, exigent certain situa- separated kind of pretty fast and exception an to the otherwise tions demand off us and I kind of backed require- the two of rigorously enforced Miranda drop exigency she told me to dubbed the a little bit and then ments.7 The ap- my “public safety exception” and was I and held hands my gun and did Quarles, supra. v. proved New York her that I was not with up and I told rationale, analogous jus- to the The Court’s up me anyway, she made back but exigent ex- tification for an circumstances again. ception fourth amendment warrant lady police officer? The dark-headed 3, Quarles, 654 n. requirement, far from here— Right. I was as 3, simple compel- 104 2630 n. is and S.Ct. foot, twenty guess. I ling: your identification show her the need for answers We conclude that identify yourself posing to her? in a situation a questions or outweighs public safety the the threat to myself. I I I didn’t touch did. protecting prophylactic rule need for just told her who was. against privilege the Fifth Amendment’s Q: Okay. get didn’t arrested out You place We decline to self-incrimination. there, you? in the un- such as Officer Kraft officers going consider, I was afraid was having to position tenable seconds, whether it killed. in a matter of often society for them to ask best serves long you Do recall about how questions the Mi- necessary without out there the field before warnings and render whatever randa go left to somewhere else with two they uncover inadmis- probative evidence Fleming? lady police officers and sible, give warnings or them to for Goodness, I don’t know. There was admissibility of evi- preserve order to at a many people so around—time was possibly they might uncover but dence loss. ability to obtain damage destroy their or and neutralize the volatile that evidence Montgomery later confirmed that Officer confronting them. situation In her Fleming’s gun was never found. Quarles exemplify its hold- testimony, trial she said that situation The facts of had by a that she confusing. ing. Informed woman very 526, ration,” Thieret, colloquy v. 903 F.2d 531- be- Andersen 6. cases have dissected the Some cases). (7th Cir.1990) argu (citing No such concluding 32 suspect police, tween a us. ments were made before "interroga- questions identification-type are not Miranda, Edwards, v. tion" under United States — U.S. —, See, (7th Cir.1989), e.g., Mississippi, nor are F.2d 384-86 Minnick (1990). "clarify” "puzzling 112 L.Ed.2d 489 questions decla- 111 S.Ct. intended to a

1H3 assailant, carrying raped fully and her had been just been subdued and handcuffed supermarket, before the officer asked gun, nearby had entered a where he Moreover, gun. thrown his gave pursuit. just Inside the officers Quarles rested on the store, necessity for the them saw who one of officers to determine where a gun loaded description. matched victim’s discarded, prevent in order to its ran, Quarles the officer chased him toward falling wrong hands, into the so Officer pistol of the store with drawn. the back Montgomery right had the inquire Quarles stop put The officer ordered whether, so, where, and if Fleming had head, his hands over his frisked and hand- dropped gun. See United States v. De and, holster, finding empty cuffed Santis, (9th Cir.1989); 870 F.2d 538-39 Quarles put gun. where asked Edwards, United States v. 885 F.2d Quarles place nodded toward the he had (7th Cir.1989); Brady, United States v. “the hidden a loaded (9th Cir.1987). 819 F.2d 887-89 Supreme over there.” As result decision, this statement was al- Court’s majority’s hindsight parsing Quarles’ lowed in evidence at trial. testimony concerning spanned events that less squared than five minutes cannot be that a The Court did not believe Quarles. First, with the intent of a cold safety exception to would inter- Miranda *5 trial convey record cannot the anxiety in significantly clarity the of that fere herent in this armed confrontation. Shots Indeed, prophylactic majority the decision. already had been fired and a man wounded. exception recog- stated “that the which we Guns were drawn. For all the officers today necessity nize lessens the of that on- knew, guns might than Adams’s be balancing process.” the-scene The Court pointing proper at them. It is require to added: police not to use excessive force amid such exception The will not be difficult for tension, for to do so saves life and limb. police apply officers to in because each See, Garner, e.g., Tennessee v. 471 U.S. by case it will be circumscribed the exi- 9-10, 1694, 1700, 105 S.Ct. 85 L.Ed.2d 1 gency justifies police which it. We think (1985). reason, prop For the same it is not distinguish officers can and will almost er under attempt such circumstances to to instinctively questions between neces- require the adherence to strictures of Mi sary safety to secure their own or the warnings. warnings randa The could have safety public questions and de- delay caused a fatal in the officers’ under signed solely to elicit testimonial evi- standing only of the confrontation. Under suspect. dence from a facts, slightly different the utterance of Quarles, id. warnings Miranda could have deterred are, anything, The facts in this case if Fleming answering questions from that compelling more in even than those necessary protect to the officers or Quarles Montgomery itself. Officer con- bystanders. importing The cost of Mi ques- fronted still-volatile situation as she situation, into this as the randa Court said Fleming. tioned did not She know whether Quarles, something in “would have been he, or the man who drawn merely more than the failure to evi obtain perpetrator was the victim or of an convicting useful in dence [the defendant]. Fleming offense. When said he had been ques Officer needed an answer to his [The] bank,” by Montgom- shot “the man at the simply tion not to make his case ... but to ery still had reason to fear for her and her danger public insure that further companion’s safety. still did not She know not result from the concealment of the exactly in who had been involved the dis- public in a area.” 467 U.S. at 104 bank, turbance at the and “she didn’t want S.Ct. at 2632. See also United States v. Padilla, (10th to the back.” As she it 819 F.2d 960-61 Cir. Adams, confusing 1987) (“The was a situation. realiz- needed a to detective this, ing thought police questions, the officers were not to obtain evidence contrast, Padilla, going Quarles, prevent kill further By against to him. Mr. but to in New York Supreme Court United States or to the the house inside anyone injury to Quarles, 104 S.Ct. outside.”) officers (1984). L.Ed.2d 550 held, public safe- Quarles the Second, as excep- safety intuitively public virtually clear that the It is exception should be ty stages of the earlier police applicable officers. to tion was comprehensible ques- has and in a confrontation confrontation policewoman’s inherent danger the exception. opinion for for the Fleming. has basis tioning so of passed, the officer Thus, after testimo- extensively from quotes administered gun, he testimony the loaded hearing, retrieved suppression ny at the case, in this Offi- warnings. So trial course, at the which, Miranda not heard of warn- gave the Miranda Montgomery the de- testimony cer That by jury. disin- although ings after opin- the circumstances scription of said— he acted alone. genuously well, demonstrate the Court ion for —that requiring minute approach, majority’s safety public dramatically, the somewhat dur- questioning the details attention her policewoman and concerns when confrontation, confusing ing an armed upon came policewoman, another partner, courts but to the to law officers only not some distance in a vacant field analy- majority’s try apply the must that testimony, But this what from the bank. sensibly, compels the Quarles, quite sis. Court, are the to show fails not admitted opposite conclusion.8 answers questions and precise specific violation the constitutional Quarles led entitled hold that We justify. safety not public could interests dangerous confrontation to neutralize district hold. The took Miranda before itself. testimony speak for Let the trial safety applied the properly court questioning line of specific This is *6 extent judgment is to this exception. Its prosecutor which by the policewoman AFFIRMED. jury heard. and which the was at trial him, approached Q: you first WILLIAMS, Judge Circuit S. JERRE you did? thing first that what was BROWN, R. Circuit JOHN with whom to up hands him to A: I told dissenting: Judge joins, know up didn’t hands because put his shot man who been An unarmed in his hand. a he had whether A ground on his knees. on the twice was It was going on. what was know didn’t a pointing standing over policewoman confusing. very by a elicited from him gun at him loaded you when anything to Q: say heDid admission, tantamount question specific said, up”? your hands you “Get confession, nearby participation in a to a objects; counsel overruled] [Defense relied robbery. prosecution bank Yes, he did. A: gaining in a upon admission heavily you say response in he Q: did What a con- violation blatant conviction. This up”? your hands saying “Get right against self-incrimination stitutional counsel; objection [Running defense requires my dissent. accepted] recognized upon a ex- relies The Court I’m I’m shot. “I can’t. A: He privilege against self-incrimi- ception to the shot.” questioning which which authorizes nation you him who Q: Okay. Did ask with- or confessions may lead admissions him? warnings in where prior Miranda cases out Yes, A: I did. immediately implicated. is public safety question? Q: he answer that Did exception limited safety public Yes, he did. A: recognized by the exception to Miranda holding here. circuit no federal has revealed 8. Our research majority’s harmony court case

1H5 Q: say? What did he name and its answer proper under the public safety exception to Miranda. A: He said the man at the bank. Q: you your Did ask “Where is justification Some might doubt of be gun?” raised question about as to where Yes, A: I did. Fleming’s gun was and his Q: question? Did he answer that he had long thrown it down. But as as a Yes, A: he did. possibly reach, could be within his Q: say? he What did there danger public was immediate safe- said, “I ty. record, A: He threw it down.” Elsewhere in the the evidence Fleming shows that also Q: subject- Did ask him name what his was? patdown ed to a weapon by search for a I did. policewoman question, before the Q: say he What did his name was? your gun?” “Where is Johnny Ray Powers. ask him whether or not he The clear constitutional invasion of Flem- robbery been involved ing’s rights occurred with the next critical Buckner Bank? State question asking him whether he had been Yes, I did. robbery involved and the testimony say— replied Did he that he that he had. It is conceded parties all at that time objections leading question; [Defense under constraint. He was not free to overruled] leave. The clearly record also reveals that Q: Tell us whether or not the man who by this time there was no threat to Johnny Ray identified himself as Powers safety. ground, The man was on the told he had been involved wounded, and unarmed. This occurred in a robbery at the Buckner State Bank? vacant field per- and there were no other counsel; [Objection by defense over- except sons around the man who had ruled] chased him policewomen. down and the two Yes, he did. warnings, Without Miranda offi- your After conversation with Flem- gun pointed cer with a loaded at ing, you place him under arrest? participated asked him if he had in a bank I did. *7 robbery and elicited the that he you place What did him under arrest had. for? robbery By admitting testimony against A: For the of the Buckner this proper objection, State Bank. the court moved far be- Quarles yond exception. the narrow The questioning Prior to this by of clearly recognized, exception is but it is so policewoman, the already she had ascer- applied restricted that it has in never been standing tained that the man him over rarely this Circuit before and has even pursued a was a citizen who had any prosecu- in been considered case. The explained from the bank. That citizen had tor should never have been allowed to ask dropped gun upon his situation and had court, question in the and the court should policewoman. question- order of the That it never have allowed and its answer to be ing questions and the first asked privilege admitted. The essence of the obviously justified were under the against prohibition self-incrimination is the safety exception. police the Until knew of the use in court of confessions and ad- every what the situation was there was missions in this manner. How right explore exactly obtained what the circum- many persons of in thousands unfortunate stances were that led to the tableau that policewomen the totalitarian countries have confessed at the upon. two had come Fleming objected testimony While to all the end of the loaded barrel of a held a above, officer, police set out it is or not clear that the line of whether questioning road, through question guilty? the as to start that We must not down Quarles any opinion other deci- harmless error. The for the Court nothing in or says rely upon a harmless error claim Supreme Court we must. does not

sion the properly so. The district court erred in holding urge upon that I this Court holding This otherwise. record shows be- holding as a that must not be mistaken any prosecution yond question that the re- police.” of the The criti- “ties the hands heavily upon this admission in the trial lied not lie as much with cism in this case does implicating of this case. Other evidence prosecutor and the police as with the strong guilt fully per- was far from questioning police trial court. The state suasive. expected precise to hue constitu- cannot be questioning suspects in cir- tional lines summary, In the admission was obtained example, such as these. For cumstances gunpoint by police at a officer while questions police often ask which call for ground lying unarmed accused was on the hearsay and for that reason the answers suffering he a vacant field and because There are other rea- are not admissible. had been shot twice a few minutes before. why police questioning sons as it occurs public safety Any threat had been re- immediacy may of the arrest transcend given The accused had been no solved. the critical boundaries. is crucial is What warning any rights. kind as to his prosecutor and the court must reversed, This case should be and the testimony from the at trial those eliminate corpus granted. deeply writ of habeas questions and asked answers which were regret upheld this Court has rights. transcend constitutional which grievous reaching and far constitutional vi- Supreme shortly itself after right olation of the of a fair trial untainted Quarles opinion its inter- stated own by self-incrimination. Quarles pretation public safety of the ex- ception effectively which summarizes and only fully supports compels not

which but verity my dissenting in this view McCarty, Berkemer v. In

case. 491 n. 104 S.Ct. 3145 n. (1984),

L.Ed.2d 317 less than month after Supreme Court stated that KENNEDY, Plaintiff-Appellee, H. Willie Quarles implication decision is: suspect arrest under presenting circumstances an imminent PLAN, ELECTRICIANS PENSION danger public safety, they may al., et IBEW # Defendants- informing without him of his constitu- Appellants. essential rights questions tional ask No. 91-3158. *8 necessary elicit information to neutralize in- public. Once such the threat to the Appeals, United States Court of obtained, has been the sus- Fifth Circuit. formation pect given must be the standard warn- March added). ings (emphasis public clearly The threat

neutralized the time the admission was gunpoint. Supreme

elicited at succinctly

statement and with unusual clar-

ity articulates the law which this Court case,

erroneously apply refuses to to this Quarles.

and it is the law only possible remaining issue can be

disposed briefly. The use of this admis-

sion or confession cannot be considered

Case Details

Case Name: Joe Freddie Fleming v. James A. Collins, Director, Texas Department of Criminal Justice, Institutional Division
Court Name: Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit
Date Published: Mar 6, 1992
Citation: 954 F.2d 1109
Docket Number: 88-1334
Court Abbreviation: 5th Cir.
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