The Jicarilla Apache Tribe (the Tribe) has petitioned this court to review two orders of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC). The initial order and the order denying rehearing were issued on October 4 and December 3, 1976, respectively, in response to the Tribe’s application for a “small producer” certificate to authorize sales of natural gas to pipeline companies. The denomination as a small producer 1 exempts an independent producer from many of the filing requirements under the Natural Gas Act, 15 U.S.C. §§ 717-717w, and normally allows the producer to charge a higher rate for its gas than that allowed to large gas producers. 18 C.F.R. § 157.40.
The Tribe applied for the certificate because it wished to sell for resale in interstate commerce royalty gas produced from wells on its reservation in New Mexico. The wells are located on land leased to El Paso Natural Gas Co. and Northwest Pipeline Corp. The leases 2 contain royalty provisions allowing the Tribe to take cash in payment or, on 30 days notice, to take payment in kind. It was the Tribe’s election to take its royalty in kind which was the genesis of this appeal. The Tribe intended initially (for about 18 months) to sell all of its royalty gas to El Paso and Northwest for resale in interstate commerce. Ultimately, however, the Tribe intended to use most of the gas for its own industrial needs on the reservation, selling only the amount unused to El Paso and Northwest on a day-to-day basis. The Tribe’s application for a certificate to authorize the sale of their gas was required under provisions of the Natural Gas Act. 15 U.S.C. §§ 717a(6), 717f(c).
In the orders under review the FERC granted the Tribe a small producer certificate but restricted the price which could be *291 charged for the royalty gas to the lower rate applicable to large producers. The FERC further held that the Tribe would have to obtain abandonment authorization pursuant to 15 U.S.C. § 717f(b) before it could remove the royalty gas from the interstate market and apply it to their own industrial needs. The Tribe objects to both of these requirements 6n appeal.
I. Abandonment Authorization [1,2] Under 15 U.S.C. § 717f(b), no natural gas company may abandon all or any portion of any source rendered by means of facilities subject to the jurisdiction of the FERC without Commission approval. This provision has been most recently construed by the Supreme Court in
California v. Southland Royalty
Co., —— U.S. —— ,
We believe the Supreme Court’s opinion in
Southland Royalty, supra,
requires rejection of the Tribe’s arguments. The respondents in
Southland
made the identical claim as is made by the Tribe in this case, that is, “ ‘no man can dedicate what he does not own.’ ”
II. Price Ceiling
Under applicable FERC regulations, a small producer is allowed to charge a higher price for its gas than the price ceiling set by the Commission for large producers. 18 C.F.R. § 157.40(c). The higher rates are in recognition of the generally higher risks, higher costs, and lower production of the small company.
See generally FPC v. Texaco Inc.,
*292 The provisions of the lease involved in this case are not disputed. The Tribe was to be paid a royalty of l/6th of the value or amount of all gas produced on the leased property. Section 4 of the lease provided:
The lessor expressly reserves:
(c) Royalty in kind — The right to elect on 30 days’ written notice to take lessor’s royalty in kind.
We believe this express reservation of the unqualified right to take royalty in kind precludes a conclusion that the Tribe has in any way “purchased” this gas. We do not agree with the PERC’s characterization of the election as an exchange of cash for gas. There is no exchange involved here at all, much less an exchange which could reasonably be deemed a purchase as that term is commonly understood. The Tribe was simply exercising its right to choose one means of payment over another.
Although we need not, and do not, base our decision on state law concepts of property interests created by oil and gas leases, we do find persuasive support from a number of cases discussing such interests.
See Waggoner Estate
v.
Wichita County,
In its brief, the FERC argues that its ruling is supported by
Mobil Oil Corp. v. FPC,
In sum, we find the FERC’s application of its regulation so as to disqualify the Tribe from small producer rates because it “purchased” its royalty gas from a large producer to be without legal foundation. We recognize the longstanding rule, cited by the FERC, that an agency’s interpretation of its own regulation is entitled to great deference on appeal.
See, e. g., United States v. Larionoff,
The orders are affirmed in part and reversed in part. The cáse is remanded to the FERC for further proceedings not inconsistent with this opinion.
Notes
. A small producer is defined generally as an independent producer of natural gas whose sales in interstate commerce did not exceed 10,000,000 mcf (thousand cubic feet) at 14.65 p.s.i.a. during any calendar year.
. The leases involved are on standard government form 5-157 (7/64) distributed by the Bureau of Indian Affairs for oil and gas leases covering tribal lands.
. We do note one difference between South-land Royalty and the case before us. The lessors in Southland did not reserve the right to take their royalty in kind. Id. at 1962, n.5 (Stevens, J., dissenting). This point does not support a different result. The fact remains that all of the gas covered by the lease here was initially dedicated to the interstate market. For the reasons stated above, any subsequent withdrawal by the Tribe, even by exercise of their reserved option, requires abandonment authorization.
. The FERC cites, in support of this conclusion, dictum in
J.M. Huber Corp. v. Denman, 5
Cir.,
