OPINION OF THE COURT
In these consolidated appeals we are called upon to decide whether the district court erred when it entered orders denying a petition to quash a grand jury subpoena duces tecum and a petition for access to certain grand jury records. Since the two orders in question are not final for purposes of appeal, we conclude that we laсk jurisdiction, and accordingly the appeals will be dismissed.
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A federal grand jury investigating possible antitrust violations in the highway construction industry issued a subpoena duces tecum to a corporation engaged in such construction, commanding the corporation to testify and to bring documents.
1
The subpoena was served on an individual who had recently been president and principal owner of the corporation. Although the individual claims to have had no interest in the corporation named in the subpoena at the time the subpoena was served, he appears to have acknowledged that he had custody of documents referred to in the subpoena. Shortly before the return date of the subpoena, the corporation petitioned in the district court for access to grand jury ministerial records and for disclosure of matters occurring before the grand jury (“the petition for access”).
2
The information was requested because counsel for the corporation and the individual had doubts regarding the propriety of the grand jury proceedings, but lacked facts sufficient to support a petition to quash the subpoеna. The petition for access had not been acted upon by the return date of the subpoena. For that reason, the corporation and the individual, on the return date, filed a petition to quash the subpoena, citing the Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination. The district court denied the petition for access, explaining that the presumption of regularity which accompanies grand jury proceedings had not been rebutted, and that no particularized need for the information covered by the petition had been shown. The court also concluded— based on an affidavit filed by the government — that at a conference with the government, counsel for the corporation had been provided with sufficient information to advise his cliеnts whether to comply with the subpoena. Shortly after denying the petition for access, the court also denied the petition to quash. It held that a corporation has no Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination, and that the individual’s privilege would not be violated by the production of the corporate records. The court denied requests for reconsideration of its refusal to allow access or to quash the subpoena. The present appeals followed, but the subpoenaed material was nevertheless turned over, thus avoiding the possibility of a contempt citation. In No. 82-1503, the corporation and the individual attempt to appeal from the denial of the petition for access. No. 82-1518, brought by the individual, challenges the district court’s order declining to quash the subpoena. Appellate jurisdiction is asserted under 28 U.S.C. § 1291 and under the collateral order doctrine of
Cohen v. Beneficial Industrial Loan Corp.,
II.
The rule governing the appealability of a denial of a motion or petition to quash a grand jury subpoena is clear:
[O]ne to whom a subpoena is directed may not appeal the denial of a motion to quash that subpoena but must еither obey its commands or refuse to do so and contest the validity of the subpoena if he is subsequently cited for contempt on account of his failure to obey.
United States v. Ryan,
The individual appellant relies on a well-established exception to the
Alexander-Cobbledick-Ryan
precept. This exception, which has developed in a long line of decisions beginning with
Perlman v. United States,
in contrast with the Alexander-Cobble-dick-Ryan rule on finality, it has been recognized that when a party, other than the one to whom a subpoena has been addressed, moves to quash the subpoena, the denial of his motion disposes of his claim fully and finally. Perlman v. United States,247 U.S. 7 ,38 S.Ct. 417 ,62 L.Ed. 950 (1918). See also Gravel v. United States,408 U.S. 606 , 608 n. 1,92 S.Ct. 2614 , 2618,33 L.Ed.2d 583 (1972); United States v. Nixon, 418 U.S. [683] at 691, 94 S.Ct. [3090] at 3099 [41 L.Ed.2d 1039 ]. In this court we have had several occasions to recognize the distinction between the Perlman and the Alexander-CobbledickRyan rule.
Schmidt, supra,
In Schmidt, six employees of C. Schmidt & Sons, Inc. had been served with subpoenas to testify before a grand jury. The employees, and Schmidt as an intervenor, moved to quash the subpoenas. When the motion was denied, the employees and Schmidt took appeals. On the authority of the Alexander-Cobbledick-Ryan line, we dismissed the appeal of the employees, since they had not been cited for contempt. In contrast, we reasoned that Schmidt’s appeal was on a different footing, for Schmidt
was not subpoenaed, and is in the case as an intervenor. The optiоn of resisting compliance and standing in contempt is not available to it, and it is unlikely that a third party, even an employee, would risk a contempt citation in order to provide [Schmidt] with immediate review.
The individual appellant had the option of obtaining immediate appellate review of his claims by disobeying the subpoena and being cited for contempt. Thus this case falls within the Alexander-CobbledickRyan line. The individual appellant argues that, as custodian of the corporate records, he had no grounds for resisting compliance with the subpoena. His position appears to be that as an individual he had the right to assert his Fifth Amendment privilege, but as a custodian of corporate records — in which capacity he was subpoenaed — he had no legal basis on which to refuse to obey. Thus, he seems to argue that his ability to assert his individual rights is dependent on his willingness to disobey a subpoena which in his capacity as custodian he had no legal grounds for disobeying. We understand this to be the ground on which he seeks to take shelter under the Perlman exception. This argument, however, is not persuasive. If the individual appellant had a good faith basis for resisting the subpoena, and desired immediate appellate review of his position, he could have permitted himself to be cited for contempt, and then appealed. If, on the оther hand, he concluded that the law required compliance with the subpoena, then he had the opportunity to obey. The choice was his whether to accept the commands of the subpoena, and lose the right to immediate appellate review, or to resist the subpoena, accept a contempt citation, and then to obtain review. His situatiоn cannot be analogized to those of the appellants in the Perlman line of cases, who, because the subpoenas had not been addressed to them, *59 lacked the opportunity to have themselves placed in contempt.
We suggested in
In re Grand Jury Empanelled August 14, 1979 (TRW Credit Data),
III.
The appealability of the denial of the petition for access to grand jury records is controlled by
In re Grand Jury Proceedings (Johanson),
We explained at some length that the “collateral order doctrine” could not be invoked on Johanson’s behalf:
Appeals before a' final judgment terminating the criminal proceedings in the district court are strongly disfavored. For an order to be appealable before a finаl judgment, it must meet the requirements of the collateral order doctrine. These requirements, originally formulated in Cohen v. Beneficial Loan Corp.,337 U.S. 541 , 545-47,69 S.Ct. 1221 , 1225-1226,93 L.Ed.2d 1528 (1949), have recently been restated by the Supreme Court in Coopers & Lybrand v. Livesay,437 U.S. 463 , 468,98 S.Ct. 2454 , 2457,57 L.Ed.2d 351 (1978): the order must conclusively determine the disputed question, resolve an important issue completely separate from the merits of the action, and be effectively unreviewable on appeal from a final judgment.
Id.
at 1038-39 (footnotes omitted). The Court discussed the fact that the order did not meet two of the
Cohen
criteria. First, the issue effectively would be reviewable after final judgment in that any flaws in the grand jury which resulted from the denial of the hearing could be “effectively reviewed by this court and remedied after a conviction has been entered and all criminal proceedings have been terminated in the district court.”
Id.
at 1039. Second, the order enterеd by the district court denying the hearing to obtain access did not conclusively determine the issue being appealed because Johanson could and did raise the same claim in his petition to quash his subsequent indictment. The Supreme Court has recently stated that an order which remains inconclusive “only in the technical sense that every order short of a final decree is subject to reopening at the discretion of the district judge” passes the
Cohen
“conclusiveness” test.
Moses H. Cone Memorial Hospital v. Mercury Construction
Corp.,-U.S.-,-,
Johanson’s application of the Cohen doctrine is equally appropriate to the facts of the present appeal from the denial of access. The appellants here sought access to information in order to challenge the propriety of the grand jury proceedings. They claim that their rights to due process of law and effective assistance of counsel demand that they be given the material they seek. But as we noted in Johanson, flaws in grand jury proceedings are reviewable after conviction. As Johanson also suggests, the petition for access could be raised again after an indictment has been issued and so the order appealed from does not conclusively determine the issue. Thus the denial of thе petition for access is not now reviewable by this Court. 5
This result is consistent with the reasoning underlying the Alexander-CobbledickRyan rule. In Cobbledick, for example, the Supreme Court stressed the need for safeguarding the orderly progress of the grand jury:
The Constitution itself makes the grand jury a part of the judicial process. It must initiate prosecution for the most important federal crimes. It does so under general instructions from the court to which it is attached and to which, from time to time, it reports its findings. The proceeding before a grand jury constitutes “a judicial inquiry,” Hale v. Henkel,201 U.S. 43 , 66 [26 S.Ct. 370 , 375,50 L.Ed. 652 ], of the most ancient lineage. See Wilson v. United States,221 U.S. 361 [31 S.Ct. 538 ,55 L.Ed. 771 ]. The duration of its life, frequently short, is limited by statute. It is no less important to safeguard against undue interruption the inquiry instituted by a grand jury than to protect from delay the progress of the trial after an indictment has been found. Opportunity for obstructing the “orderly progress” of investigation should no more be encouraged in оne case than in the other.
This prescription on occasion can lead to harsh consequences, yet without it the criminal process would be subject to continual interruptions. As we stated in
TRW, supra,
[I]f an ongoing grand jury proceeding could be interruptеd each time that a potential witness or holder of relevant records wished to contest an appearance or disclosure, the ability of grand juries promptly to perform their task would be seriously compromised. See Cobbledick, supra,309 U.S. at 327-29 ,60 S.Ct. at 542-43 .
We are aware that our holding that the denial of the motion for access is unappeal
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able may be difficult to reconcile with the Ninth Circuit’s decision in
In re Special Grand Jury (For Anchorage, Alaska),
In support of its holding on appealability, the
Anchorage
court cited
Douglas Oil Co. of California v. Petrol Stops Northwest,
The facts in Sarbaugh are similar to those of Douglas Oil. There, the plaintiff in a civil antitrust action filed in the Southern District of Illinois was denied permission by the District Court for the Eastern District of Illinois to inspect and copy transcripts of an Eastern District grand jury. According to Sarbaugh, the petition in the Eastern District
was filed there as an independent proceeding after the discharge of the grand jury and the termination of the criminal action initiated by the indictment. This subsequent independent proceeding was terminated by the District Court’s order denying the petition, which “disposes of the contentions of all the parties, leaving nothing else to be decided,” “ends the controversy before” the District Court, and is therefore appealable under 28 U.S.C. § 1291.
Douglas Oil and Sarbaugh both involved a procedural setting substantially different from that presented in this appeal from the order denying access. The corporation here has not commenced an independent proceeding to gain access to information about a completed grand jury investigation. On the contrary, it sought the material in order to challenge the very grand jury investigation to which it was then being subjected. The denial of the petition for access was one step in an ongoing grand jury proceeding, not the termination of an independent civil proceeding.
The court in
Anchorage
noted that the “movants were not seeking to challenge the grand jury, but to inspect ministerial сourt records. Their standing, if they had standing, did not derive from any alleged right to challenge the grand jury, but from their
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alleged common-law right of access to court records.”
IV.
Since neither of the orders at issue here is appealable, the appeals will be dismissed for lack of jurisdiction. 8
Notes
. In accordance with an order of the district court, this case has been placed under seal. Our recitation of the facts therefore cannot be as complete as it ordinarily would be.
. The petition sought: the аpplication for the grand jury summons; the date of the grand jury’s empanelment; the roll sheets reflecting the grand jury’s composition, by juror number, and dates of attendance; the dates when the grand jury authorized the investigation and subpoena at issue; the description of the subject of the grand jury investigation given to the grand jury; and the charge given the grand jury respecting the subject matter of its investigаtion and the issuance of its subpoenas.
. The government argues that because the individual appellant fully complied with the subpoena, the appeal is moot. Mootness precludes appellate review when a case has “lost'its character as a present, live controversy of the kind that must exist if we are to avoid advisory opinions on abstract prоpositions of law.”
Hall v. Beals,
.
See United States v. Litman,
Johanson
is but one example of what in
Akerly
v.
Red Barn Systems, Inc.,
. The appellants in the present proceeding argue that quite apart from Cohen the orders in this case denying access are final and therefore аppealable. This argument is foreclosed by the holding in Johanson that the order in that matter denying access was not appealable.
.
But cf. Helstoski v. Meanor,
.
See also In re Grand Jury Proceedings (United States of America, Appellant),
. “[B]ecause we have no jurisdiction we are powerless to comment upon the merits.”
TRW, supra,
