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John Rigas, Timothy Rigas, James Ri-gas, and Michael Rigas (the “Rigases”) appeal, pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 158(a)(1), from the Bankruptcy Court’s order,
In re Adelphia Communications Corp.,
I. BACKGROUND
A majority of the background facts is set forth in
In re Adelphia Communications Corp.,
The appellees include Adelphia Communications Corporation (“ACC”) and Adelp-hia Business Solutions, Inc (“ABIZ”), collectively (“Adelphia”), both of which are in chapter 11 reorganization. ACC was the parent company of ABIZ before it spun off ABIZ. Before the chapter 11 petitions, ACC had purchased a Directors’ and Officers’ insurance policy from Associated Electric
&
Gas Insurance Services, Ltd. (“AEGIS”) that provided $25 million of insurance coverage. ACC also acquired excess D
&
0 policies from Federal Insurance Company and Greenwich Insurance Company
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for $15 million and $10 million, respectively. The D
&
O policies provide coverage for Adelphia and directors and officers for losses that the entity or the officers and directors may become obligated to pay on account of claims made for “wrong acts.”
Adelphia,
The Rigases are now charged with multiple counts of corporate fraud in the management of Adelphia, and are defendants in numerous civil and criminal proceedings. The Rigases seek reimbursement of legal defense fees from the insurers for litigation arising out of their alleged fraudulent activities, but have been unable to seek such reimbursement because of the automatic bankruptcy stay. On September 13, 2002, the Rigases filed a motion with the Bankruptcy Court seeking relief from the automatic stay and to allow payment and/or advancement of defense costs under the D & O policies.
Adelphia,
1. Finding that the $300,000 claimed by each of the Rigases under the D & O policy constitutes property of Adelp-hia Communications Corporation (“Adelphia”) and Adelphia Business Solutions, Inc. (“ABIZ”) (collectively the “debtors”) estates;
2. Staying all litigation relating to the D & O insurance policies, 4 pursuant to the automatic stay provision under 11 U.S.C. § 362(a)(3), including the litigation by the Rigases against the insurance companies to recover money under the D & O policies;
3. Refusing to lift the automatic stay under 11 U.S.C. § 362(d); and
4.Making certain statements in its Order that should have no binding effect on the parties to the D & O insurance policy.
II. DISCUSSION
A. Standards of Review
This Court reviews the Bankruptcy Court’s findings of fact for clear error, and generally speaking, findings that involve questions of law or mixed questions of fact and law are reviewed
de novo. In re United States Lines, Inc.,
B. Appeal from Stay of Litigation 5
It is well settled that insurance
policies
are covered by the automatic stay provi
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sion of the Bankruptcy Code,
see MacArthur Co. v. Johns-Manville Corp.,
The Rigases first prong of attack on the Bankruptcy Court’s order centers on whether the Bankruptcy Court correctly categorized the $300,000 of proceeds, that the Bankruptcy Court permitted them to claim under the policy, is an asset of the debtor, which remains subject to an automatic stay under 11 U.S.C. § 362(a)(3). Section 362(a)(3) automatically enjoins “all entities” from “any act to obtain possession of property of the estate or of property from the estate or to exercise control over property of the estate.” Section 541 of the Bankruptcy Code defines “property” of a debtor’s estate as “all legal and equitable interests of the debtor.” While some courts have held that the proceeds of a D & O policy are property of the debtor’s estate and subject to the automatic stay,
see, e.g., In re Vitek,
Here, as far as I can tell, Adelphia does not have a property interest in the proceeds of the insurance policies yet. Although the D & O policies reimburses each estate to the extent that the estate advances funds because of the indemnification obligations in the charter or by-laws,
see Adelphia,
The fact that the stay under 11 U.S.C. § 362(a)(3) may not apply automatically does not render the Bankruptcy Court’s decision to stay litigation between the Rigases and the insurers necessarily subject to reversal. Section 105 of the Bankruptcy Code provides bankruptcy courts with broad discretion to “issue any order, process, or judgment that is necessary or appropriate to carry out the provisions of this title.” 11 U.S.C. § 105. It is well settled that bankruptcy courts, under this provision, may extend the automatic stay to “enjoin suits by third parties against third parties if they threaten to thwart or frustrate the debtor’s reorganization efforts.”
In re Granite Partners, L.P.,
Although § 362(a) stays generally apply only to bar proceedings against the debtor,
Teachers Ins.,
The problem here, however, is that the Bankruptcy Court assumed that the proceeds from the policies were assets of Adelphia’s estate and automatically subject
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to the stay under § 362(a)(3). As discussed above, that is not the case. The Bankruptcy Court, largely on the grounds of judicial efficiency and relative lack of harm to the Rigases, decided against lifting the stay.
Adelphia,
C. Dicta in Bankruptcy Court’s Opinion and Order
The Rigases assert that statements made by the Bankruptcy Court in the November 2002 order were without any basis of fact and are now being relied upon by the insurers to support their refusals to provide funds under the D & O policies. In particular, the Rigases point to language where the Bankruptcy Court stated,
The corollary of this, of course, is that the Insurers may not be criticized for failing to make payments on the D & O policies here after they have attempted, in good faith, to litigate their duty to do so, and the Court has placed impediments in their way. This Court believes that they cannot be faulted for first wishing their day in court.
Adelphia,
The Rigases seek to have this Court deem these and other statements dicta and not legally binding. “Whether the court’s discussion ... is dicta is better suited to be addressed in any subsequent litigation where the issue [discussed] arises.”
RJE Corp. v. Northville Industries Corp.,
III. CONCLUSION
For the foregoing reasons, the Bankruptcy Court’s order to stay litigation by the Rigases to collect under the D & O policies is vacated and remanded for further findings to determine whether the stay under § 362 should be extended pursuant to its power under § 105(a). Further, the Rigases’ motion for a judicial declaration that statements made by the Bankruptcy Court constitutes dicta is denied.
SO ORDERED.
Notes
. Gabe Miller, an intern in my Chambers during the summer of 2003 and a second-year law student at Columbia Law School, provided assistance in the research and drafting of this opinion.
. For convenience, the insurance companies will be referred to collectively as the "insurers.”
. The insurers seek to rescind the insurance policies on the grounds that the Rigases and/or Adelphia made fraudulent representations that vitiate the policies.
. The policies contain various exclusions to the reimbursement of defense costs. Most notably, there are restrictions on a director or officer recovering where the claims at issue (i) are attributable to his own self-dealing; (ii) are based on his or her own criminal or dishonest conduct; (iii) are brought about by or on behalf of Adelphia itself; or (iv) arise out of facts and circumstances about which the officer had knowledge at the inception of the policy period but failed to disclose to the insurer. The insurers contend that one or more of restrictions in the policies are clearly applicable to the conduct of the Rigases and that the policies should be rescinded. Thus, they filed a rescission action on September 26, 2002.
.The insurers argue as a threshold matter that appeal of the stay on the Rigases’ claims for payment under the D & O policies is not
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ripe because the Rigases never raised the issue below. I disagree. The Rigases had sought the specific relief now requested, see Rigases’ Motion for Relief ¶21, which the Bankruptcy Court rejected. See
Adelphia,
