The issues presented concern what expenses may properly be deducted from a lessee’s profits to determine if there is production in paying quantities under the habendum clause of an oil and gas leаse. The questions posed are: 1) whether overriding royalties paid by the lessee to a third party may be deducted from profits as a cost of production or a lifting expense; 2) whether administrative expenses qualify as lifting or production costs; and 3) whether the existence of a Joint Operating Agreement has any effect on expenses categorized as lifting costs. We find that overriding royalties are not lifting costs for рurposes of determining whether a well is producing in paying quantities; that administrative expenses are not properly deductible as costs of production in determining whether a well is producing in paying quantities; and thаt the existence or nonexistence of a joint operating agreement has no effect on what expenses are deducted as costs of production.
This appeal arises out of a disputе between mineral owners/lessors (appellants) and working interest owners/lessees (ap-pellees) in three oil and gas leases covering various tracts comprising Section 7, Township 21 North, Range 21 W.I.M. in Woodward County, Oklahoma. It is conceded by both the lessors and the lessees that the term “production” in the habendum clause of a lease means production in paying quantities. 1 The dispute here concerns *139 only what items are to be deducted as lifting expenses from profits to determine production in paying quantities. The mineral owners (lessors) originally brought suit in October, 1983, seeking a determination that one lease had expired for lack of production, and subsеquently amending their petition in November, 1983, to include the two other leases. All three leases have habendum clause provisions providing for extension of the lease so long as there is production.
The working intеrest owners (lessees) filed a motion for summary judgment on May 30, 1984, alleging the Hiniger 7A well was producing in paying quantities and that there was, therefore, no basis for can-celling the lease. On the same date, the trial court hеard the mineral owners’ oral application for summary judgment. Their motion was based on the premise that overriding royalties and administrative expenses constitute a portion of lifting costs and that when these itеms were deducted, the well was not producing in paying quantities. The trial court granted the working interest owners’ motion and denied the mineral owners’ motion. In granting summary judgment to the working interest owners, the trial court found that the well was producing, and was capable of continuing to produce, in paying quantities. In reaching this conclusion, the trial court deducted neither the overriding royalties nor the administrative expenses as costs оf production; but it indicated that had administrative expenses been deducted, the Hiniger 7 A would still be producing in paying quantities. 2
The Court of Appeals, in an unpublished opinion, reversed the trial court, holding that overriding royalty payments should be deducted as lifting costs. It reversed and remanded the cause for an itemization of the administrative costs to determine whether certain expenses “lumped together” were too remоte to be included as lifting expenses, and to determine the effect of the Joint Operating Agreement between the working interest owners. The working interest owners petitioned for certiorari, which has been grantеd.
I
OVERRIDING ROYALTIES ARE NOT “LIFTING EXPENSES” FOR PURPOSES OF DETERMINING WHETHER A WELL IS PRODUCING IN PAYING QUANTITIES
The principal issue before us is whether the Hiniger No. 7A well has stopped producing in paying quantities subjecting the working interest owners’ leases to termination. It is, therefore, necessary to decide whether overriding royalties like “royalties payable to the lessor” 3 are expenses directly related to lifting or production operations requiring offset against production proceeds to determine whether а well is producing in paying quantities. Although we have not previously addressed this precise issue, 4 prior case law dealing with what expenses do constitute lifting costs, and the nature of the interest involved, lead us to the conclusion that overriding royalties are not deductible as lifting or production costs.
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Perhaps some definitions are in order. The term “lifting costs” relates to a portion of the cost of producing oil and gas
5
exclusive of drilling and equipping costs
6
— thе term defies a more precise definition. On the other hand, the meaning of the phrase, “production in paying quantities”, is well-settled in Oklahoma law and uncontested here. Such production in the extension provision of an oil and gas lease’s habendum clause means production of quantities of oil and gas sufficient to yield a profit to the lessee over operating expenses, even though the drilling costs or equipping costs are never recovered, and even if the undertaking as a whole may result in a loss to the lessee.
7
An “overriding royalty” generally arises through contracts between the lessee and a third person. It is a fractional interest in the gross production of oil and gas under a lease in addition to the royalty reserved to the land owner or lessor.
8
Overriding royalties are not charged with the cost of development or production.
9
Overriding royalties are not royalties payable to the lessor under
Mason v. Ladd Petroleum Corporation,
The determination that overriding royalties are not part of lifting or production costs js consistent with extant case law of sister states who have faced this issue. 10 In addition, recognized authorities in the field of oil and gas law are in accord with this charaсterization. 11 The explanation in 2 E. Kuntz, “Law of Oil & Gas”, p. 273, § 26.7(1) (1964) 12 of how overriding royalties are to be considered in determining production in paying quantities is helpful:
“(I)ncome attributable to the working interest as originally created is taken into account, and only thе lessor’s royalty or other share of production is excluded. Thus, the share of production attributable to any outstanding royalty interest will not be excluded but will be taken into account in determining income." (Emphasis supplied)
We find this treatmеnt of overriding royalties to be persuasive when the practical ramifications of granting an overriding royalty are considered. If an overriding royalty is carved out of the lessee’s estate, it is done in return for a benefit conferred. Overriding royalties, like costs of drilling, are part of the capital investment instead of part of the lifting costs.
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ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES ARE NOT PROPERLY DEDUCTIBLE AS COSTS OF PRODUCTION IN DETERMINING WHETHER THERE IS PRODUCTION IN PAYING QUANTITIES
In determining whether a well is being produced in paying quantities, only those expenses which are directly related to lifting or producing operations can be offset against production proceeds to determine whether a well is a producer. 13 The lessors argue that for the 15-month periоd, July, 1982 through September, 1983, joint interest billings directly attributable to the Hiniger 7A well amounted to $5,081.20, and that this sum represented administrative expenses for supervision and accounting to working interest owners. If the lessors’ argument is accepted, and these administrative expenses are deducted as costs of production, simple mathematics demonstrate that there has not been production in paying quantities. 14 However, this Court has previously held such administrative expenses should be excluded in determining whether a well is a producer. 15
The lessors argue that the present case is distinguishable on its facts from
Mason v. Ladd Petroleum Corp.,
This holding should not be construеd as indicating that administrative expenses are not beyond judicial scrutiny because they may be designated as lifting expenses. It merely means that the heading “administrative expense” should not be used as a tool usеd by producers to avoid lifting expenses rightly attributable to determining production in paying quantities by merely dumping such expenses in the accounting column. However, the lessors do not allege the lessees have аttempted to do so in the present case.
Ill
THE EXISTENCE/NONEXISTENCE OF A JOINT OPERATING AGREEMENT HAS NO EFFECT ON WHAT EXPENSES ARE DEDUCTED AS COSTS OF PRODUCTION
The issue of whether a Joint Operating Agreement has any effect on expenses categorized as lifting costs is not a novel question for this Court. In
Mason v. Ladd Petroleum Corp.,
CERTIORARI GRANTED, OPINION OP THE COURT OF APPEALS VACAT *142 ED: JUDGMENT OF THE TRIAL COURT AFFIRMED.
Notes
.
Mason v. Ladd Petroleum Corporation,
.Net return from the well for the relevant period, exclusive of administrative expense and overriding royalty is $2,214.96. Administrative expense is in the amount of $5,081.20 and overriding royalty equals $363.76. Simple mathematics, if administrative expensе and overriding royalty are deducted as lifting costs, would necessarily result in a determination that the well has not produced hydro-carbons in paying quantities. In addition, if administrative expenses are deducted as presently constituted, that will result in the same determination.
.
Mason v. Ladd Petroleum Corp.,
note 1, supra;
Gallaspy v. Warner,
. We have held that lifting expenses may include: costs of operating the pumps, pumper’s salaries, costs of supervision, gross production taxes, royalties рayable to the lessor, electricity, telephone repairs, depreciation, and other incidental lifting expenses.
See Mason v. Ladd Petroleum Corp.,
note 1, supra;
Gallaspy v. Warner,
note 3, supra;
Gypsy Oil Co. v. Marsh,
.
Laguna Royalty Co. v. C.I.R.,
. Because costs of drilling and equipment costs are not items to be included in the cost of producing oil and gas for determining when a well produces in paying quantities and "lifting costs” constitute the expenses to be used for such purposes, drilling and equipping costs must necessarily be excluded.
See Mason v. Ladd Petroleum Corp.,
note 1, supra at 1286;
Stewart v. Amerada Hess Corp.,
. Mason v. Ladd Petroleum Corp., note 1, supra at 1286; Stewart v. Amerada Hess Corp., note 6, supra; Kerr v. Hillenberg, note 1, supra; Henry v. Clay, note 1, supra; Walden v. Potts, see note 6, supra; Woodruff v, Brady, see note 6, supra; Gypsy Oil Co. v. Marsh, note 4, supra; Parks v. Sinai Oil & Gas Co., see note 6, supra; Ardizonne v. Archer, see note 6, supra.
.
Thornburgh v. Cole,
.
Thornburgh v. Cole, id. See also, O’Neill v. American Quasar Petroleum Co.,
.
See Reese Enterprises, Inc. v. Lawson,
. 2 E. Kuntz, “Law of Oil and Gas", p. 273, § 26.7(1) (1964); See also, R. Hemingway, "Oil and Gas”, p. 282, § 6.4 (2nd ed. 1983); 13 Williams and Meyers, “Oil & Gas Law", p. 88.7, S§ 604.6(f) (1986).
. 2 E. Kuntz, "Law of Oil and Gas", see note 13, supra.
. Mason v. Ladd Petroleum Corp., note 1, supra at 1284; Stewart v. Amerada Hess Corp., note 6, supra.
. See compilation of expenses, note 2, supra. 738 P.2d — 5
.Mason v. Ladd Petroleum Corp., note 1, supra at 1286.
