Harvinder Singh and Manjit Kaur Purba petition us to review the decision of the Board of Immigration Appeals (“BIA”) finding them deportable from the United States. The Purbas present a question of first impression in this circuit about the manner in which a deportation hearing must be conducted. Rather than having the proceedings conducted physically before the immigration judge (“IJ”), the hearing was conducted over the telephone. The Purbas contend that this telephonic hearing violated section 242(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, 8 U.S.C. § 1252(b) (1982), which requires a proceeding before an immigration judge to determine deportability. Because we agree with the Purbas that “before” in section 242(b) means in the physical presence of the IJ, we reverse the BIA and remand for rehearing.
I.
The Purbas, a married couple, are natives of Kenya and citizens of the United Kingdom who were found to be deportable at a telephonic deportation hearing on October 29, 1984. The IJ presided in the immigration courtroom in the federal building in San Diego, California, while the Pur-bas and their attorney were present in the INS office in Honolulu, Hawaii. The IJ conducted the hearing over the telephone, despite the Purbas’ vigorous objections to the absence of a face-to-face meeting. He found the Purbas deportable. The INS appears to have used such telephone hearings for deportation only in Honolulu and Agana, Guam.
On appeal to the BIA, the Purbas raised their objection to the telephonic hearing, among other issues. The BIA found no error in relation to the hearing and dismissed the appeal. It granted the Purbas voluntary departure. The Purbas filed a petition for review in this court within the time specified by statute. 8 U.S.C. § 1105a(a)(l) (1982). We take jurisdiction under 8 U.S.C. § 1105a(a).
*517 II.
The dispute in this ease centers around the meaning of section 242(b), the Code provision which sets out the procedures for deportation hearings. The section provides in relevant part:
Determination of deportability in any case shall be made only upon a record made in a proceeding before a special inquiry officer, at which the alien shall have reasonable opportunity to be present, unless by reason of the alien’s mental incompetency it is impractical for him to be present, in which case the Attorney General shall prescribe necessary and proper safeguards for the rights and privileges of such alien.
8 U.S.C. § 1252(b). “Special inquiry officer” is synonomous with immigration judge. 8 C.F.R. § 1.1(1) (1988). The INS contends that “before” in the statute’s context does not mean “in the physical presence of” the IJ, and that in this case the credibility of witnesses was not at issue and, thus, a telephonic deportation hearing was suitable. Guided by well-established canons of statutory interpretation, we conclude that section 242(b) requires that the hearing be conducted with the hearing participants in the physical presence of the IJ.
We review
de novo
an agency’s interpretation of a statute.
Ramirez-Ramos v. INS,
When interpreting a statute, our objective is to ascertain and enforce the intent of Congress.
Bresgal v. Brock,
We find no evidence of congressional intent to depart from the ordinary meaning of the word “before.” Absent a clear expression of a contrary intention, we must regard section 242(b)’s plain meaning as conclusive.
Escondido Mut. Water Co. v. La Jolla Band of Mission Indians,
The INS asks us to depart from the plain meaning of the statute in cases where credibility of witnesses is not in issue. This *518 would invite a case-by-case determination of whether credibility was an issue in each case where a telephonic hearing was held. We believe this to be unwise, leading to unnecessary appellate issues. We consider a bright line rule to be far preferable. Moreover, the significant point is that a judicial reworking of the statute would invade the province of Congress. Until Congress chooses to change the wording of the statute, telephonic hearings by an IJ, absent consent of the parties, simply are not authorized by statute.
CONCLUSION
We reverse the BIA’s dismissal of the Purbas’ appeal. We remand the case for rehearing in the physical presence of an immigration judge.
REVERSED and REMANDED.
