This case arises out of genuinely tragic events. During the early morning hours of September 25, 1995, Sergeant Fred Goch of the Marathon County, Wisconsin Sheriffs Department unintentionally shot and killed Kathy Nieslowski during a standoff between police and Nieslowski’s husband, John. Kathy Nieslowski’s parents 1 brought this suit pursuant to 42 U.S.C. § 1983, alleging that Goch and Marathon County violated their daughter’s rights under the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution. The district court granted summary judgment in favor of the defendants, and this Court affirms.
I. BACKGROUND
At about 9:15 p.m. on September 24, 1995, the Marathon County Sheriffs Department received a call stating that a man named John Nieslowski had threatened patrons of a local bar with a shotgun. Nieslowski was reportedly dressed in military fatigues and speaking in an erratic, irrational manner, including making threats to shoot any Everest Metro Police Department officers he might see. Members of the Sheriffs Department’s Special Response Team (“SRT”) responded to the call, as did officers of the Everest Metro Police Department (which serves three municipalities in Marathon County) and officers from the Town of Rothschild.
The responding officers soon learned that Nieslowski’s parents lived at an address not far from the bar. The officеrs moved to establish a protective perimeter around the Nieslowski home. In the meantime, SRT officers learned from Everest Metro officers who had dealt with Nieslowski on previous occasions that he tended to be violent and unpredictable. A member of the SRT who observed the Nieslowski home from another house across the street saw movement within the home but was not able to detеrmine the number of people who were there. Twice between 10:30 and 11:00 p.m., this SRT member saw a man he believed to be John Nies-lowski step out of the home, look around, and then step back inside.
Officers sought a “no-knock” warrant to enter the Nieslowski home; the warrant was granted at approximately 1:00 a.m. on September 25. The SRT’s commander met with Everest Metro officers and learned that Jоhn Nieslowski was known to them to be a “fighter” and that police had been required to resort to physical measures to subdue him in the past. The officers also told the SRT commander that Nieslowski was a military man who had previously been a suspect in a murder investigation, and that he was physically very strong.
Based on this information and on Nieslow-ski’s conduct in threatening patrons at the bar earlier that evening, the commanders on the scene decided to attempt a “silent entry” through the rear door of the house in order to negotiate with Nieslowski from a position inside. The plan did not succeed, however. When a team of officers commanded by Sergeant Goch entered after battering open the back door, Nieslowski fired at them with a shotgun, striking the ballistics shield that the lead officer cаrried to protect the group. The SRT officers then retreated outside the house.
After the aborted entry, the SRT officers involved joined their companions in positions around the house. As some of the officers were still seeking suitable vantage points, Kathy Nieslowski walked out the front door of the house onto the porch. Several SRT deputies shouted to her to “get down on the ground” and identified themselves by yelling “Sheriffs Department.” . Kathy went back inside the house for a moment and then quickly came back outside, at which time the officers again ordered her to “get on the ground.” Kathy responded to the deputies’ commands and got down on her hands and knees at the top of the porch steps.
*795 Immediately after Kathy dropped to all fours, John Nieslowski stepped out the front door сarrying a long gun in one hand, cradled beneath his arm. John took hold of Kathy by either the hair or the shoulder with his free hand and began pulling her back toward the door, as she struggled against him. John apparently succeeded in pulling Kathy to her feet, so that he stood either behind or slightly to one side of her (from the vantage point of Sergeant Goch and two deputies who were located near Goсh to the south of the porch), with his arm around her neck or shoulder. The officers’ stories are not fully consistent as to whether John’s gun was pointing to the west the entire time or swung at some point to the south, toward Sergeant Goch. 2 Their statements also differ somewhat as to whether John was standing behind Kathy or whether they moved at some point-so that they stood' side-by-side, separated by at least a few inches.
What is clear, however, is that the officers shouted at John, “Sheriffs Department, let me see your hands” and “Put down your gun,” and that John released his hold on Kathy. Immediately after, Sergeant Goch fired two shots at John from his MP5 subma-chine gun, and Deputies McCarthy and Bean also fired at John with their handguns at 2’oughly the same moment. One bullet from either McCarthy’s or Bean’s gun struck John, and he died soon after. One of Goeh’s two bullets struck Kathy in the back of the head; she died some hours later from the wound.
Kathy’s parents filed this suit on June 6, 1997, then amended their complaint on September 9, 1997. Their amended complaint included claims under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 against the City of Schofield, 3 Marathon County, and Sergeant Goch in his individual capacity. The complaint alleged that the defendants violated Kathy Nieslowski’s rights under the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments to the United Stаtes Constitution, and also that they violated Kathy’s parents’ Fourteenth Amendment right to Kathy’s continued society and companionship. The claim against Marathon County alleged that the County failed to train its SRT officers properly in handling situations such as the one that led to Kathy’s death.
On December 2, 1997, Judge John C. Sha-baz granted summary judgment in favor of Sergeant Goch and Marathon County on all of the Schaefers’ claims. The 'court entered its judgment the next day, and the plaintiffs filed a timely notice of appeal.
II. DISCUSSION
A. Standard of Review
This Court reviews the district court’s grant of summary judgment
de novo. Cornfield by Lewis v. Consolidated High School Dist. No. 230,
B. Fourth Amendment
An initial task for a court faced with a suit under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 claiming that government agents have used excessive force is to “identify[ ] the specific constitutional right allegedly infringed by the challenged application of force.”
Graham v. Connor,
It is true that the Supreme Court has held that “all claims that law enforсement officers have used excessive force ... in the course of an arrest, investigatory stop, or other ‘seizure’ of a free citizen should be analyzed under the Fourth Amendment and its ‘reasonableness’ standard, rather than under a ‘substantive due process’ approach.”
Graham,
In
Lewis,
the Court held that no seizure took place when a police officer pursued a suspect and his passenger at high speeds and then struck and killed the passenger after the suspect’s motorcycle tipped оver.
Id.
at -,
In language pertinent to the present case, the Court stated that “a police pursuit in attempting to seize a person does not amount to a ‘seizure.’”
Id.;
see also
California v. Hodari D.,
In the case at hand, the plaintiffs argue that Kathy Nieslowski was seized under the sеcond of these two definitions when she complied with commands from the SRT officers to “get down” on the porch after she exited the house. This sequence of events, they claim, meets the requirement that a seizure involve “a governmental termination of freedom of movement through means intentionally applied.”
Brower,
But the fact that Kathy was temporarily immobile does not necessarily mean that her freedom of movement was terminated. The officers were in no position to stop her from reentering the house had she chosen to do so (at least short of intentionally shooting her). Even more importantly, given what actually
*797
occurred, the officers were not in a position to stop Kathy’s husband from taking physical control of her himself. The Supreme Court posed an analogous example in
Hodari D.
“If ... [the officer] had laid his' hands upon Hodari to arrest him, but Hodari had broken away and had then cast away the cocaine, it would hardly be realistic to say that that disclosure had been made during the course of аn arrest.”
Hodari D.,
C. Fourteenth Amendment
To say that the Fourth Amendment does not provide the standard for this ease is not, of course, necessarily to say that plaintiffs cannot prevail. It simply means that if they are to have any recovery at all, it must come by way of the Fourteenth Amendment’s protection of substantive due process. See
Lewis,
— U.S. at - - -,
The guarantee of due procesé serves to protect “the individual against arbitrary action of government.”
Id.
at -,
In many instances, the due process standard under which courts must evaluate the conduct of government officials is referred to as “delibérate indifference.” See,
e.g., Soto v. Johansen,
The Supreme Court’s , decision in
County of Sacramento v. Lewis,
however, clarifies that not all substantive due process claims are to be assessed through the lens of. deliberate indifference. Deliberate indifference, in fact, is merely the manifestation in certain situations of a more general inquiry, which is whether thе government conduct at issue “shocks the conscience.” — U.S. at - - -,
*798
This Court has already had occasion to apply the teachings of the
Lewis
case, in
Armstrong v. Squadrito,
The facts in the present case, however, are much more similar to those in
Lewis
than they are to those in
Armstrong,
and in precisely the sense that the
Lewis
Court found pertinent. The SRT officers were faced with a dangerous, fluid situation, in which they were forced to make decisions “in haste, under pressure, and ... without the luxury of a second chance.”
Id.
at 1720 (quoting
Whitley v. Albers,
Since the “shocks the conscience” standard’s first appearance, it has been criticized as overly vague. See
Rochin,
In our case, of course, the officers who fired their weapons did intend to harm the suspect, John Nieslowski, but it is not Jоhn on whose behalf this suit was brought. (Of course, we do not mean to imply that a suit on his behalf would be more likely than the present claim to succeed.) Nobody has suggested that the officers intended to harm Kathy Nieslowski, and so the straightforward application of the Lewis analysis yields a verdict in favor of defendants.
On the other hand, firing a gun when an innocent party who has just attempted to surrender is standing, by most accounts, only inches from the intended target seems even more dangerous a course than pursuing a suspect at high speeds through city or suburban streets. Under the analysis employed in
Lewis,
however, the officers’ decision to fire does not “inch close enough to harmful purpose” to shock the conscience, even assuming that John never swung his weapon in the direction of the officers. Given the high-pressure, life-and-death nature of the standoff, thе officers were not required to wait until John actually pointed his shotgun at them. The man they saw before them had already fired upon officers once, he was known to be a “fighter,” and he had threatened a number of other persons with the same type of weapon he carried with him onto the porch. The situation was fluid, uncertain, and above all dangerous, and the officers’ decision to shoot, regrettable though its results turned out to be, does not shock the conscience. For this reason the inconsistencies among the officers’ statements concerning whether John ever pointed the gun in their direction, even assuming they give rise to a genuine issue of fact, do not bear upon a
material
fact, that is, one that could alter the outcome of the case. See
Anderson
*799
v. Liberty Lobby, Inc., 477
U.S. 242, 248,
Because we have concluded that Sergeant Goch did not violate Kathy Nieslowski's rights under the Constitution, her parents’ claims based on the loss of her society and companionship necessarily fail as well. Likewise, the claim against Marathon County for failure to train its officers cannot stand once the underlying claim against Sergeant Goch has fallen.
Estate of Phillips v. City of Milwaukee,
CONCLUSION
Kathy Nieslowski was not seized at the time that Sergeant Goch shot and killed her, and therefore Fourth Amendment standards do not govern this case. Under the substantive due process component of the Fourteenth Amendment, the proper inquiry in a case such as this one is whether the officer’s conduct was enough to shock the conscience. This Court holds that Sergeant Goch’s decision to fire, while certainly regrettable in hindsight, did not evince the purpose tо harm that the Supreme Court has said is necessary for liability. Neither the Schaefers’ claim for loss of companionship nor the failure to train claim against Marathon County can survive the failure of the underlying claim. The district court was therefore correct in granting summary judgment in favor of the defendants on all counts.
AFFIRMED.
Notes
. Kathy’s mother, Lyla Schaefer, is also the Special Administrator of Kathy’s estate.
. In statements given shortly after the incident, only Sergeant Goch reported having seen Nies-lowski’s gun swing southward toward the officers. The other SRT members reported either that the gun was pointed to the west or that it was pointed at Kathy. In subsequent interviews conducted some two weeks after the shooting, the other officers reported that Nieslowski did in fact begin to swing his gun toward the officers before Goch and the others fired their weapons. The defendants' explanation for the discrepancy—that the officers merely failed to "include every detail in their initial written reports" (Appellants' Brief at 25)—is not convincing; it hard- . ly seems an insignificant detail that the shots were allegedly fired as a result of Nieslowski's turning his weapon on the officers. For this reason, we will analyze the case on the assumption that Nieslоwski’s gun was not pointed toward the officers.
. The claim against the City of Schofield was dismissed on October 31, 1997. That dismissal is not at issue in this appeal.
. As the Supreme Court has subsequently noted, the violation in
Rochin
would today be analyzed using Fourth Amendment standards; at the time the case was decided, Fourth Amendment protections had not yet been held to restrict the actions of the states. See
Lewis,
- U.S. at - n. 9,
