STURGIS, J.

Suit for personal injuries to a boy eleven years- of age, occasioned by bis falling under tbe wheels of a stock car while same was being moved by hand in connection with loading some stock belonging to plaintiff’s father at the station of Clarkton, in Dunklin County. Plaintiff had assisted his father in bringing the hogs to town and on arriving there they found another car loaded with stock standing at the chute of the stock pen. Two other cars were standing east of this one on the side track, one of which plaintiff’s- father was to use in loading his stock. The local freight train had placed, or “spotted,” the. one car at the stock chute, and then went on to Malden, whence it would return to Clarkton in about an hour. Malden was not on the main line and *346the train went to that town on a branch line and then back to Clarkton and the evidence shows that when more than one car had to be placed at the cattle chute at Clarkton the train crew usually spotted one and then went on to Malden. When plaintiff’s father found that the train had just gone and he would have to wait an hour or more in order to have the loaded car moved and his car placed in position to be loaded, the station agent suggested that they move these cars by hand so as to save time both in loading the stock and in getting the car out. To this plaintiff’s father readily assented, and he, with his two boys, one being plaintiff, and his hired man, together with defendant’s station agent, Elkins, proceeded to move these cars. They moved the loaded car away from the chute westward without any mishap, but in moving the first empty car in the same direction the plaintiff, while on the north side of the same near the front end, slipped and fell under the wheels, resulting in his arm being crushed and broken. For this injury the jury awarded him $1000 in damages.

The allegations of negligence in the petition and in plaintiff’s instruction authorizing a finding for plaintiff are as follows: “The negligence of the agent or agents of the defendants in requesting or directing plaintiff to assist in moving a box car, (2) and in requesting or permitting plaintiff to go upon the north side of said box car out of the view of the station agent of defendants and the other there assisting in moving said box car for the purpose of assisting in moving said car, when the defendant knew the youth and inexperience of plaintiff, (3) the negligence and carelessness of the defendants in directing or permitting plaintiff to assist in moving a box car over and along a track, the ties of which extended above the ground, (4) and the failure of the defendants to spot or place the Dunscomb car with the engine before making trip to Malden.”

We will note more at length the facts in evidence in connection with each ground of negligence specified, *347though not following the same order as the pleader. First, as to the negligence of defendant’s agent in directing or requesting plaintiff to assist in moving the .box cars. The plaintiff was with his father and hired man for the purpose of helping to drive and load these hogs just as any eleven year old farm boy would do. There is little difference in the evidence as to what the agent did and said when plaintiff’s father came to the depot and learned that the train had just gone and that these, cars would have to be moved before the hogs could be loaded. Plaintiff’s father testified that he was about to go up town when the agent said: “Could we spot that car and load that stuff?” Plaintiff’s father at once assented and they all proceeded to move the cars by hand. It was shown to be a common thing for stock-men to move or assist in moving cars in this way and plaintiff’s father had so helped at other times.' It was near eleven o’clock and the reason for not wanting to wait until the train returned was to save time and get the hogs loaded before dinner and ready to go out as soon as the train returned. While plaintiff’s father was under no obligation to move or help move the ear in place to be loaded, it was an advantage to him and he readily agreed. Nothing was said to plaintiff and what he did was to merely follow along with his father ready to help as best he could. Certainly without more it was not negligence of the agent to permit this boy to accompany his father and to render such assistance as such a boy might under the immediate eye and care of hip father. To so hold is to convict the father of even greater wrong.

II.

The loaded cár being hard to move, defendant’s agent procured two crow bars commonly used to pull spikes and these were used as pinch bars under the hind wheels to move the car along. One was used by the hired man and plaintiff’s father and the agent took turns in using the other. It appears that in doing this the pinch bars would slip on the rails and this boy, *348plaintiff, commenced helping by placing a stick of wood at the heel of the pinch bars, or “scotching” as it was called. Some stress is laid on the fact that the agent, Elkins, picked np a block of wood and gave it to the boy to nse for this purpose, telling him to be careful not to mash his fingers. This agent says that when he did this the boy was already using a stick for this purpose which had become somewhat mashed, and he merely gave him and told him to use the other. We find no contradiction of this. The boy was helping both his father and the agent in this way.

The plaintiff insists that this boy sustained the relation to the father of helper and that defendant owed him the same duty as it did the father and his hired man — that of a licensee with interest, which we will note later. Since the boy owed the father the duty of service and obedience, both law and morals imposed. on the father the duty to care for his son’s safety. Why, then, should defendant’s agent be called upon to stop the boy from doing work which the facts show met the approval of his father ? Moreover the plaintiff was not injured in this - particular work or in any way, connected with it. Its only force is that it gave the agent knowledge that the boy was assisting in the work generally and bears on the question of its being negligence per se in the agent to permit the boy to. do so. We rule this point against plaintiff.

III.

We also rule that there is no negligence in defendant’s failure to have the train crew spot or place the Dunscomb car at the stock chute before proceeding to Malden. Another car was placed there, though the evidence does not show when it was loaded with reference to the train’s departure. It is not shown that plaintiff’s father’s hogs were to arrive or be loaded at any particular hour and when the train crew were ready to depart, these hogs had not yet arrived and the agent and train crew could not know just when they would arrive. The train would be back in an hour and plaintiff’s *349father could have declined to assist in moving the cars hy hand and it would then have been up to the railroad to do this for him. There was no negligence in this respect and, if there was, it was so remote that it would he difficult to hold that such negligence was the proximate cause of plaintiff’s injury.

IV.

Another .ground of negligence is that defendant’s agent directed or permitted plaintiff to assist in moving cars along a track where the ends of the ties extended above the ground.. The place of the accident was on the loading switch some two hundred feet from the depot in a small town: It was shown that outside the immediate depot grounds the defendant’s tracks generally were not so ballasted as to cover the entire ties hut left the ends more or less exposed.- It was shown that other railroads were so constructed, and we think it is common knowledge that most western railroads are constructed that way. We again, therefore, return to the question of its being negligence, without more, for the agent to permit (for that is all he did) this boy to accompany his father and assist in moving these cars on a track constructed in the usual way. The father evidently did not apprehend any danger and such as there was was as open and obvious to him as to the agent. It is casting more than ordinary care on defendant’s agent if we hold that'the agent is required to forbid the hoy . to accompany his father and assist under such conditions of defendant’s tracks, because of the mere possibility that the hoy might get so close to the side of the car as to stumble on the end of a tie and fall under the wheels.

This brings us to the last alleged ground of negligence in that defendant’s agent required or permitted plaintiff to go to the north, side of the box car out of the agent’s view in moving the empty car when the agent knew the plaintiff’s age and inexperience. The very statement of this ground of negligence strikes us as *350placing on the agent the duty of watching over and keeping this boy within his sight and that, too, when the boy’s father is there and tne boy is there because of being his father’s helper. What is there to call for this high degree of care on the part of the agent? The loaded car having been moved without mishap, the empty one was starred by using the pinch bars in the way described. It was then found that this car could be kept moving by all hands pushing, including a couple of men who then happened along and volunteered a friendly push, and the pinch bars were discarded. The boy joined in the pushing but there was hardly room for ail at the rear or east end of the car. The plaintiff testified that the agent ‘ ‘ then told me to step up a little to the front of the car and I went up and got hold of the ladder on the north side at the west end and was pushing.” lie then slipped and fell under the wheels. We think it is evident irom plaintiff’s further evidence that his including his going to the front end of the car in what the agent said is a mere inference of his from the fact that plaintiff was virtually deprived of a place to push at the rear end. In his cross-examination he testified: “We put that block under the pinch bar to get it started and we lilted it up and it was going, and most of the men were on the back and that crowded me over, and he told me to step up and 1 went to the front of the car. I went on the same side 1 was already on and went to push. lie never told you to push- the car, did he? A. 1 don’t hardly remember whether he told me to do that or not. I remember he told me to put a block under the pinch bars, and 1 did that; 1 did that on the empty car until we got it started. After we got it started I don’t remember his telling me anything more about pushing. We were already on the north side, and he told me to move up. I was already pushing and was doing this because he told me to. He never told me to quit. Q. Why did you go on the north side of the car? A. To kind of push. Q. Who told you to go? Well, nobody never told me to go on there, but he said to move up. Q. He didn’t say what particu*351lar place to go, but he just told you to move up, is that right? A. Yes, sir. Q. And you obeyed him? A. Yes, sir. Q. You mean Mr..Elkins, he is the one that told you to do this? A. Yes, sir. Q. You state that Mr. Elkins just said ‘move up’? A. Yes, sir. Q. And didn’t tell you to push? A. No, sir, he didn’t tell me to do nothing, but I was already pushing.” Plaintiff’s father, who stood by the agent’s side and could readily have heard what was said, testified: “Q. "Was any orders given him as to what he should do? A. I never heard any, I was busy.” And on cross-examination he said:' “He was on the west end of the north side of the car and I was behind the car, the agent was on the outside of the rail, and he and I were standing side by side. Q. "Who told the boy to go up there at the side? A. They crowded him over from the east end and I didn’t see him any more. Q. Did the agent see him? A. I don’t know. Q. Did the agent say anything to him then? A. Well, I don’t remember. After we pushed him over to one side he says ‘get over that way a little.’ Q. What did he say at that time? A. He just told him to get over that way — get over south — that was when he was on the east end. I said nothing to the. boy that I remember. We were all working there together:” Plaintiff’s other witness, the hired man, testified: “The agent directed all of us when and where to push and he said ‘push’ and we of course pushed. Prom the way we were pushing the car the boy was on the right hand side of the car when he was hurt, that would be the north side. I and the boy and the others were at the east end of the car when we first went to pushing. When the boy went around the car the agent was there pushing with the rest. Q. Did you hear the agent tell the boy to go on the north side and push on the car after he had quit scotching? A. He told the boy to move and give him some room to push, and the boy moved over and this is what he said: ‘Move over and give me some room in here to push..’ . ... Dunscomb’s boy was first pushing in the middle and Elkins came over and said let him in there. . Q. The agent *352had nothing to do about sending the hoy around. the car, did he? A. I don’t know. Q. Well, as a matter of fact, you don’t know if he had anything to do with the hoy going around the car or not, do you? A. I don’t know. . . . That was the only order that Mr. Elkins gave the hoy, he told him to keep up with the pinch bars at that time, until he told him to move over and let him push. Nobody else said anything to the boy but the agent. I remember what the agent said, hut don’t remember what anybody else said.” The defendant’s agent denied giving the hoy any orders or directions in regard to his work except to give him a block to scotch with when they were using the pinch bars on the first car moved and to warn him not to mash his fingers; said that he knew nothing as to the boy’s movements while they were pushing the second car until the boy halloed and he was discovered just after the wheel passed over him; .that his father was right there and made no objection to what the boy was doing; that he never asked the hoy to help hut since he went along to help his father he did not tell him to quit. The other evidence corroborates the agent’s version of the matter.

VI.

. We concede that plaintiff occupied much the same position with reference to his father as did the hired man and that plaintiff owed to the father the same duty of obedience and service as an employee, which duty the father could enforce, though not by the same penalty as with the hired servant. The recollections of our boyhood days do not fail us in this respect. This makes the relation of plaintiff to defendant that of the servant of one master who aids the servant of another master in work for the mutual benefit Of both, or which both have an interest in having performed." Such servant is a licensee with an interest and when injured by the negligence of the servant whom he assists, the master of the servant must respond. The law is stated in Ryan v. Boiler Works, 68 Mo. App. 148, 151, as follows: “But it *353is settled that one who in furtherance of his own interest or those of his master, assists the servants of another in the performance of their work, is neither a fellow servant of such servants nor a mere volunteer, hut occupies a third position, namely, that of a licensee with an interest. He is not a trespasser, because he is lawfully in his place;' he is not a fellow servant of the other servant, because he is not directly or indirectly retained or employed by the master of such servant; neither is he a bare volunteer, because he does the work to further his own interests or those of his master. When a person thus situated is injured through the negligence of the servant whom he assists, the doctrine of respond-eat superior applies, and the master of the negligent servant is responsible for the injury.” In the case of Ward v. Railroad (Tenn.), 38 S. W. 727, where a shipper’s servant was engaged in loading a car on a side track, and at the invitation of a brakeman undertook to assist in moving the car to a point where it would be more easy of access, because the shipper’s interest and his own would thus be served by expediting the loading, and while so assisting was injured by the railroad company’s negligence, it was held that the defendant was liable, though it did not need the servant’s assistance. [See, also, Tinkle v. Railroad, 212 Mo. 445, 469, 110 S. W. 1086; Railroad v. Marsh (Ohio), 52 L. R. A. 142.]

The difficulty with plaintiff’s case is that the defendant or its agent is not shown to have been guilty of any negligence which would impose liability under the same rule of law which would prevail in case Dunscomb’s hired man had been injured instead of his son. The defendant’s agent did not fail to perform any duty toward plaintiff which the law inposed on him.

VII.

Plaintiff’s principal instruction sought to aid the weakness of his ease by requiring the jury not only to find that defendant was guilty of the alleged acts of negligence but that “said alleged acts on the part of *354defendant were, in fact, in violation of some duty that defendant owed to plaintiff.” This was submitted to the jury a question of law, since it is the province of the jury to find hypothetical facts and the question of whether such acts are violative of some duty owed by defendant to plaintiff was for the court, and not the jury. [Goodwin v. Railroad, 75 Mo. 73; Yarnall v. Railroad, 75 Mo. 575, 583; Joy v. Railroad (Ill.), 105 N. E. 330.] This additional finding, therefore, was improper and adds nothing to plaintiff’s case.

It follows that the judgment is reversed.

Farrington, J., concurs. Robertson, P. J., concurs except as to paragraphs. VI and VII, holding as to paragraph VI that the injured boy was a mere volunteer and his father should have kept him out of danger.