OPINION
STATEMENT OF THE CASE
Virgil C. Cоrll, et al., (the "Investors") bring this interlocutory appeal from the trial court's orders granting two motions to compel discovery. 1 Edward D. Jones & Compa *723 ny ("Jones") moved to compel disclosure of the content of certain meetings the Investors had with attorneys prior to filing suit, and the Investors sought a protective order on the basis of attorney-client privilege. The trial court deniеd the Investors' request for a protective order. 2
We reverse.
ISSUE
The sole issue presented on appeal is whether the trial court abused its discretion when it granted Jones' motions to compel discovery of the content of any communications which occurred during group meetings between the Investors and counsel.
FACTS
The Investors filed a class action against Jones and alleged that the national brokerage firm, through its Marion, Indiana, employee Richard Seaman, misrepresented the risks involved in certain mutual funds, seeurities, and other investments purchased by the Investors. 3 During the course of depositions, several Investors testified that they had attended a series of group meetings held prior to the commencеment of this lawsuit which were also attended by attorneys who subsequently became the Investors' counsel in the lawsuit. At those depositions, in response to inquiry by Jones, the Investors were instructed by their counsel not to answer any questions regarding the substance of any conversations that took place at those meetings on the basis that the information was protеcted by the attorney-client privilege.
Jones filed a motion to compel discovery of both the identities of those persons who attended the meetings and also what had occurred at the meetings. The trial court summarily granted the motion. Thereafter, the Investors moved for a protective order. Following a change of venue from the cоunty, the court denied the Investors' motion and ordered the Investors to respond to discovery aimed at identifying the "content or attendance" at the preliminary meetings between counsel and prospective plaintiffs. Record at 389. In compliance with the order, and in response to an interrogatory question, the Investors provided a supplеmental list of persons who had attended the meetings.
However, at a subsequent deposition, counsel for the Investors again instructed one of the plaintiffs not to answer any questions regarding conversations which had occurred during the group meetings. The Investors asserted that the court's order which compelled disclosure of the "content" of the meеtings was narrow in scope and that it included only the general subject-matter of the meetings, and that any actual communications were protected by the attorney-client privilege. Jones filed a second motion to compel discovery and also moved for sane-tions against the Investors. On January 25, 1994, the trial court granted Jones' second motion to compel and the request for sanctions.
Then, following a change of venue from the judge, the Investors requested that the court reconsider the prior discovery orders or, in the alternative, to certify the orders for interlocutory appeal. In deference to the prior orders, the court denied the Investors' motion to reconsider but certified the orders for interlocutory appeal.
DISCUSSION AND DECISION
Standard of Review
The trial court is vested with broad discretion in ruling on discovery matters, and we will reverse only upon a showing of an abuse of discretion. State v. Hogan (1992), Ind.App.,
*724 Attorney-Client Privilege
The Investors contend the trial court abused its discretion when it denied their motion for a protective order. They assert that any communications that occurred during the group meetings between counsel and the Investors are protected by the attorney-client privilege and, thus, are not disсoverable. We agree.
The scope of discovery is governed generally by Trial Rule 26(B), which provides that parties "may obtain discovery regarding any matter, not privileged, which is relevant to the subject matter of the pending action." Under Indiana law, communications between an attorney and a client are privileged and not discoverable. The attorney-client privilege provides that attorneys shall not be competent witnesses "as to confidential communications made to them in the course of their professional business, and as to advice given in such cases." IND.CODE § 34-1-14-5. This principle of confidentiality in the context of the attorney-client relationship not only plays a role in our lаw of evidence but is also fundamental to our rules of professional conduct which forbid attorneys from revealing "information relating to representation of a client unless the client consents after consultation." - See Ind.Professional Conduct Rule 1.6.
Accordingly, our supreme court has recognized that the attorney-client privilege "protects against judicially compelled disclosure of confidential information regardless of whether the information is to be disclosed by way of testimony or by court-ordered compliance with a discovery request which a party has attempted to resist." Canfield v. Sandock (1990), Ind.,
The rule is that "when an attorney is consulted on business within the scope of his profession, the communication on the subject between him and his client should be treated as strictly confidential." Colman v. Heidenreich (1978),
It is clear that the party asserting the privilege has the burden to establish that he is entitled to its protection. See id. The parties in this case dispute what that burden includes and whether the Investors have satisfied their burden. Specifically, Jones asserts that the Investors have failed to make any showing that a "confidential communication" was involved as required to establish the attorney-client privilege. The Investors respond that they have made a prima facie showing оf confidentiality. We agree with the Investors.
Our courts have never specifically addressed what the party invoking the privilege is required to show to establish that a communication is confidential. In Colman, our supreme court articulated the burden on the party asserting the privilege as the burden to show the "consultation was a professional one." Id.
The record in this case reveals that on at least three occasions, several prospective plaintiffs attended meetings at the Grant Cоunty Courthouse Annex at which one or more attorneys were present. While some of the Investors were not aware what would transpire at the preliminary meetings, the purpose of those meetings was to gather those Jones investors who had dealt with Richard Seaman to meet with attorneys to discuss their losses.
Thus, there is no question that the purpose of еach preliminary meeting was to discuss a potential lawsuit. The Investors are seeking to protect from disclosure any statements made by the Investors during the *725 meetings and any legal advice provided by the attorneys to those in attendance. Where, as here, a group of individuals meet with attorneys concerning potential litigation, and the purpose of that consultation is to provide legal advice regarding rights and liabilities, we conclude that any communications made in furtherance of that purpose are "confidential communications" between attorney and client and carry with them an expectation of confidentiality 4 Thus, the Investors have made a prima facie showing they are entitled to the protection of the attorney-client privilege. 5
Of course, not every communication between an attorney and a client is a "confidential communication" and entitled to a reasonable expectation of confidentiality. For example, as a general rule information regarding a client's attorney's fees is not protected by the attorney-client privilege because the payment of fees is not considered a confidential communication between attorney and client. See id. at 585. A client's identity is not usually considered privileged information. Id; but see Colman,
The fact that the Investors met as a large group and were essentially strangers to one another does not alter our conclusion that they had a reasonable expectation of confidentiality in the meetings. When two or more persons, with a common interest in some legal problem, jointly consult an attorney, "their confidential communications with the attorney, though known to each other, will of course be privileged in a controversy of either or both the clients with the outside world." McCormick on Evidence § 91 (dth ed. 1992). We see no reason to fashion a different rule of privilege for a group of prospective clients than for the single prospective cliеnt who seeks the advice of counsel to determine his legal rights and obligations.
Further, while some of the prospective plaintiffs may have eventually decided not to join in this lawsuit, their absence from the litigation does not preclude the Investors from asserting the privilege. All of the prospective plaintiffs met to discuss a matter of joint concern аnd were present to further a common interest in consultations with the attorneys. Thus, the presence of other interested parties does not destroy the confidentiality of any communications. See 81 Am. Jur.2d Witnesses § 383, § 4835 (1992).
Jones argues that the Investors' own testimony demonstrates the communications at issue were not confidential. It directs us to the deposition testimony of several Investors who were asked whether they had conveyed any confidential information to the attorneys present at the meetings. These Investors answered that they had not. However, the attorney-client privilege protects confidential communications between attorney and client, which includes information conveyed by the attorney to the client in the form of legal advice. See IND.CODE § 84-1-14-5(2). The evidence in this case is that the meetings concerned potential litigation and, thus, even if the Investors had provided no information, legal advice conveyed by the *726 attorneys would still be privileged. Further, whether a communication is confidential cannot be determined conclusively by the lay сlient's subjective opinion as to what is confidential, but rather by an objective determination whether under the facts and cireum-stances the communication was made within the seope of the attorney-client relationship.
Finally, Jones contends the evidence before the trial court showed that Ruth Cartwright, a newspaper reporter who was nоt a prospective plaintiff, was present for at least one of the meetings and, thus, that any communications which occurred were not in fact "confidential." Jones similarly argues that "there is nothing in the record to show that other disinterested strangers were not present." Brief of Appellee at 16.
We agree with Jones that communications made within thе presence or hearing of a disinterested third person are not protected by the attorney-client privilege. See Lewis v. State (1983), Ind.,
Here, in support of their motion for a protective order, the Investors submitted the affidavit of Ruth Cartwright. Cartwright averred that, although she helped call one of the meetings to ordеr, she left that meeting before legal matters were discussed and did not return. Cartwright stated that she was not present during any substantive portion of any meeting between prospective plaintiffs and attorneys. In opposition to Cartwright's affidavit, Jones again directs us to the deposition testimony of three Investors who recalled that Cartwright attended at least a portion of the initial meeting but who could not recall when she left or whether she was present during all or even part of any other meeting. This testimony was at best inconclusive, and there was no evidence before the trial court which actually rebutted Cartwright's own statement that she was not present during the substantive portion of any meeting. Based on this evidence, Jones has failed to establish that the attorney-client privilege did not attach to the preliminary consultations between the Investors and their counsel.
Public Policy
The attorney-client privilege is an important provision in our law for the protection of persons in need of professional legal help. Colman,
In recent years, class actions and multiple plaintiff litigation have become more prevalent. Individuals who have sufferеd a common harm often share an attorney's time and the court's time with those similarly situated. When, as in the present case, a class action is in its organizational phase, adequate discussion and full disclosure of legal matters with counsel is vital to allow prospective class members to be advised of their potential rights and liabilities regardless of whether they join an eventual class. In many instances group consultations may be the only manageable way for attorneys to meet with and advise prospective class members. The ability of prospective plaintiffs to obtain the necessary advice to make an informed decision would be hampered if disclosure of communications that оccur during these consultations can be compelled through the discovery process.
With these concerns in mind, we conclude on these facts that the Investors have established that any communications which occurred during the group meetings between *727 the Investors and their attorneys are protected from disclosure by the attorney-client privilege. We further conclude that Jones has failed to provide evidence sufficient as a matter of law to overcome the privilege. Thus, we hold that the trial court abused its discretion when it granted Jones’ motions to compel discovery and denied the Investors’ motion for a protective order. The discovery orders at issue here are reversed.
Reversed.
Notes
. We accepted jurisdiction of this appeal pursuant to Indiana Appellate Rule 4(B)(6).
. We heard oral argument on January 31, 1995.
. In an unrelated interlocutory appeal, this court affirmed the trial court's class certification, yet reversed and remanded with instructions to modify the class definition. Edward D. Jones v. Cole (1994), Ind.App.,
. Whether or not any one investor had retained any of the attоrneys prior to a specific meeting is of no consequence. We agree with the investors that the preliminary nature of the meetings does not remove the meetings from the scope of the attorney-client privilege. What is essential to the existence of the attorney-client privilege is the confidential relation of client and attorney, and not the pendency of litigation or payment of a fee. Colman,
. Prior to the hearing on the motion to reconsider the Investors submitted four additional affidavits in support of their attorney-client privilege claim. However, in our decision we do not rely on those affidavits.