Opinion by
Appellant’s petition under the Post Conviction Hearing Act was dismissed by the hearing court and the denial of relief was affirmed per curiam by the Superior Court. We granted leave to file a petition for allocatur to examine appellant’s claimed denial of his right to counsel.
Petitioner was one of three inmates in the State Correctional Institution at Roekview, Centre County, who escaped on October 29, 1958. All three were apprehended the next day in Harrisburg and on November 18, 1958 all three appeared in court. Petitioner and Kenneth John Wagner were without counsel; Paul Custalow had retained Attorney Thomas Gill to represent him. At the outset of the hearing the following colloquy took place: “The Court : Q. Do either of you gentlemen desire counsel? A. By Mr. Wagner: No, sir. By Mr. Ritchey: No, sir. Q. You understand that you are entitled to Counsel if you would like to have it? A. By Mr. Wagner: No. By Mr. Ritchey: No. The Court : Let the record show that Mr. Gill, Attorney for *271 Mr. Custalow, explained to all three of the defendants their Constitutional rights and right of Counsel. Would you please do that, Mr. Gill? (Mr. Gill consults with all three defendants and then states to the court that the defendants, Mr. Wagner and Mr. Ritchey, have indicated that they do not desire counsel.)” The indictments were then handed to the defendants and written pleas of guilty were entered thereon by each defendant. Appellant did not prosecute an appeal from the entry of the guilty plea.
Appellant filed a habeas corpus petition in late 1964, alleging among other things that he had been represented by ineffective counsel, that he had been denied his requests for counsel at the preliminary stages of the proceedings, that he had no counsel and that the “appointment” of counsel had been merely for the purpose of lending legality to the proceedings. This petition for a writ of habeas corpus was dismissed. That determination was affirmed by the Superior Court. Relief subsequently was denied by this Court and the United States District Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania.
In December 1966 appellant filed the present petition under the Post Conviction Hearing Act. This petition differs from the earlier one in that petitioner contends at this juncture that he was never informed of his right to free counsel if he was indigent. 1
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The Sixth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which is applicable to criminal proceedings in state courts, requires that the accused be given the assistance of counsel at every critical stage of a criminal prosecution.
White v. Maryland,
Of course, it is impossible to “force” counsel on an indigent defendant,
Moore v. Michigan,
Therefore, it would seem that appellant raises a valid argument when he asserts: “Nowhere has any proof been offered, nor has it ever been contended by the Commonwealth, that appellant was ever informed nor made aware that counsel would be appointed to appellant free of cost.” Merely telling a defendant that he is “entitled” to counsel will be a meaningless gesture if he is not made aware that
free
counsel will be supplied if necessary.
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We reaffirm our earlier holding
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that as a matter of law there cannot be a finding of a knowing and intelligent waiver of the right to counsel unless the accused shall have been explicitly informed that he is entitled to
free
counsel if he is indigent.
Commonwealth v. Wilson,
Since the guilty plea record is silent as to whether this defendant was told that counsel would be supplied without cost to him, the burden of proof is upon the Commonwealth to demonstrate he was so informed in order to establish a knowing and intelligent waiver.
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Commonwealth v. Wilson,
Accordingly, the petition for allocatur is granted, the order of the Superior Court is reversed, the order of the Court of Quarter Sessions of Centre County is vacated and the record remanded for a new trial.
Notes
It could bo argued that petitioner’s failure to raise this issue at the first habeas corpus proceeding works a waiver of any further opportunity to litigate the issue. The relevant part of the Post Conviction Hearing Act, Act of January 25, 1966, P. L. (1965) 1580, §4, 19 P.S. §1180-4 (Supp. 1967) states: “(b) For the purpose of this act, an issue is waived if: (1) The petitioner knowingly and understandingly failed to raise it and it could have been raised before the trial, at the trial, on appeal, in a habeas corpus proceeding or any other proceeding actually conducted .. . .” (Emphasis added.)
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In view of the fact that petitioner was represented by counsel at his first habeas corpus hearing this argument would be persuasive.
Commonwealth v. Satchell,
This absence from the Record of any discussion should re-alert trial courts and counsel on both sides to the importance this Court has placed on any discussions related to the entry of a guilty plea being included on the record. We said in
Commonwealth
ex
rel. West v. Rundle,
Ritchey’s testimony at the hearing exemplifies the problems involved: [By the District Attorney] : “Q. Now, didn’t you talk to Mr. Gill before you entered your plea of guilty? A. No, Sir, I did not. Q. You never talked to him? A. No. He was supposed to tell us about our right to counsel, but the only thing I recall was giving him a power of attorney to make a statement. .. . . Q. I thought you said you didn’t talk to him? A. He talked to all three of us. We had a conversation — the conversation was between three people, but I didn’t say anything to him. Q. Did you ever talk to Mr. Gill about this before you entered your plea? A. The only thing I told Mr. Gill I didn’t want counsel. Q. You didn’t want counsel? A. No, Sir. Q. And he told you you had a right to counsel if you wanted it? A. He said if I wanted an attorney, I eould have one. Q. You told him you didn’t want one? A. Yes, Sir. Q. And, therefore, you are now saying that you didn’t have a counsel *275 at all? A. Because I wasn’t advised I could have one free of cost. I wasn’t aware that I could have an attorney at any time. Q. Did you ask Mr. Gill whether or not you had to pay for an attorney? A. No, Sir. Q, And other than that, that’s the only reason you said you didn’t want an attorney? A. Yes, Sir. Q. And if you had known that you could have had one appointed for you, you would have asked for one? A. Yes, Sir. Q. And if you would have had counsel, in what way do you think that would have changed the outcome of the ease? A. I wouldn’t know. I have no idea. Q. Would you have told him facts that were not before the court before; was there anything that wasn’t told to the court at the time you plead guilty? A. I couldn’t say. It’s a possibility. I might have and I might not have.”
This holding is not unlike our determination in
Commonwealth v. Wilson,
This accords with our disposition in
Commonwealth v. Ezell,
