OPINION BY
¶ 1 Joseph Abraham appeals from the order denying his petition for relief filed pursuant to the Post Conviction Relief Act (PCRA), 42 Pa.C.S. § 9541 et seq. In his petition, Abraham claimed his trial counsel was ineffective for failing to inform him a guilty plea to indecent assault would result in the loss of his vested pensiоn rights, see 43 P.S. § 1311 et seq., 1 thereby rendering his guilty plea unknowing and involuntary. The PCRA Court dismissed his petition without a hearing pursuant to Pa. R.Crim.P. 907. After a thorough review of the official record, submissions by the parties, and relevant law, we reverse and remand for a hearing.
¶ 2 On December 8, 2008, Joseph Abraham pled guilty to one count of corruption of minors and one count of indecent assault. Abraham had been a teacher at Allderdice High School. He offered $300 to a student to have sex with him and also touched her buttocks. He gave her one of his business cards and wrote his private cell phone number on it. A couple of months after the incident, the student told a friend what had happened. The friend told a teacher who then told the principal. The victim eventually related what happened and turned over the business card to the school pоlice. Abraham, 67 years old at the time, was allowed to retire with his pension.
¶ 3 Abraham was charged with corruption of a minor, 18 Pa.C.S. § 6301; indecent assault of a person less than 16 years of age, 18 Pa.C.S. § 3126; endangering the welfare of a child, 18 Pa.C.S. § 4304; and criminal solicitation, 18 Pa.C.S. § 5902. Indecеnt assault is the charge that triggered the application of PEPFA. See 43 P.S. § 1312. Endangering the welfare of a child and solicitation were dropped at the time of the plea agreement. Abraham was sentenced to three years’ probation. No direct appeal was taken, but Abraham did file a nunc pro tunc motion to withdraw his plea, alleging among other things he was not informed of his right to withdraw his plea or told of the possible sentences *1092 he was facing. This motion was denied without opinion.
¶ 4 Abraham then filed this timely PCRA petition in which his sole claim is counsel was ineffective for failing to inform him he would forfeit his pension upon pleading guilty. The PCRA court denied the petition, following proper notice, without a hearing. In its Pa.R.A.P. 1925(a) opinion, the PCRA court stated the loss of pension was a collateral issue to the plea. The PCRA court stated pursuant to
Commonwealth v. Frometa,
¶ 5 In reviewing a claim of ineffective assistance of counsel, we are mindful of the following standards. “The right to counsel is the right to effective assistance of counsel.”
Strickland v. Washington,
¶ 6 As noted above, the PCRA court relied on
Frometa
to dismiss Abraham’s petition. The United States Supreme Court abrogated
Frometa
in
Padilla v. Kentucky,
- U.S. -,
¶ 7 In
Padilla,
the United States Supreme Court stated it had never applied the distinction between direct and collateral consequences to define the scope of constitutionally prоfessional assistance required under
Strickland. Padilla
at-,
¶ 8 Under Padilla, it is unclear if the direct/collateral anаlysis is still viable. That analysis might still be useful if the nature of the action is not as “intimately connected” to the criminal process as deportation.
¶ 9 Rather than apply a mechanical rule,
Padilla
harkens back to the original
Strickland
concept, adopted by our Supreme Court in
Pierce,
of examining the totality of the circumstances to determine what advice must be given to have a fully informed guilty plea. The United States Supreme Court looked at a number of factors to determine effective assistance of counsel required informing the defendant about deportation. Deportation is a virtual certainty for an alien convicted of drug charges, such as Padilla.
Padilla
at-,
¶ 10 Although Padilla is newly minted, the standards and approach used in that decision have been used in Pennsylvania for other matters involving due process.
¶ 11 Pennsylvania case law has developed through a succession of cases setting guideposts to determine whether a newly-enacted provision provides civil or penal consequences. These guideposts have been used predominantly to determine ex post facto consequences. Determination of ex post facto consequences and constitutiоnally effective counsel both address due process concerns, and as such, there is no reason why an analysis used in one situation cannot be used in the other. Specifically, a consequence that is punitive in nature implicates ex post facto applications and punitive consequence is also a determining factor under Padilla.
¶ 12 Pennsylvania uses a two-pronged test to determine if a consequence is punitive or civil.
See Lehman v. Pennsylvania State Police,
(1) whether the sanction involves an affirmative disability or restraint; (2) whether it has historically been regarded as punishment; (3) whether it comes into play only after a finding of scienter; (4) whether its operation will promote the traditional aims of punishment-retribution and deterrence; (5) whether the behavior to which it applies is already a crime; (6) whether the alternative purpose to which it may be rationally connected is assignable to it; and (7) whether it appears excessive in relation to the alternative purpose assigned.
Id.
¶ 13 Initially, there is no statement of purpose attached to PEPFA. The Act is found in Title 43, Labor, not in Title 18, the Criminal Code. Although PEPFA makes specific reference to the Criminal Code for triggering purposes, it appears the legislature intended it to be a civil sanction. This does not end the analysis. We must now examine the seven “useful guideposts.”
¶ 14 The forfeiture of a pension is an affirmative disability. It dеprives a person of monetary benefits he or she earned and would otherwise be entitled to. Not only is the person deprived of pension benefits, but any beneficiary designated by the person is also denied benefits. 43 P.S. § 1313. In this matter, both Abraham and his wife will be directly affected by the loss of pension benefits.
¶ 15 There does not appear to be a historical use of the forfeiture of pension benefits as applied to criminal behavior. *1094 It cannot be said the measure is historically either civil or punitive. There is no independent finding of scienter needed to trigger forfeiture. There is an element of scienter, but that is found in the underlying criminal act. This ties into factor five, and the behavior to which forfeiture applies is solely criminal.
¶ 16 The operation of this measure promotes the traditional aims of punishment, acting as both retribution and deterrence. Justice Zappala, cоmmenting on PEPFA in his dissent in
Mazzo v. Board of Pensions and Retirement of the City of Philadelphia,
¶ 17 We note the United States Supreme Court has taken a different view of forfeiture, stating it is primarily designed to confiscate property used in violation of the law and to require disgorgement of the fruits of illegal conduct.
U.S. v. Ursery,
We have distinguished civil penalties such as fines from civil forfeiture proceеdings that are in rem. While a “civil action to recover ... penaltie[s], is punitive in character,” and much like a criminal prosecution in that “[i]t is the wrongdoer in person who is proceeded against ... and punished,” in an in rem proceeding, “it is the property which is proceeded against, and by resort to a legal fiction, held guilty and condemned.”
Id.
at 283,
¶ 18 The Forfeiture Act is not directed against the property. There is no separate proceeding to determine whether the pension is “guilty.” It is the wrongdoer who is proceeded against. Viewed in this light, the pension forfeiture is akin to a fine and is punitive in nature.
¶ 19 We can discern no alternative purpose for the forfeiture. Unlike costs or restitution which serve to make a victim whole or reimburse the government for the cost of prosecution, the forfeiture of a pension is not directed to any purpose other than retribution and deterrence. Therefore, factor seven is also inapplicable. 4
¶ 20 Looking at the guideposts, it is apparent the loss of pension is punitive in nature. Lehman. Viewed in the light of Padilla, the loss of the pension is automat *1095 ic and inevitable, the stakes are high and the consequences are succinct, clear, and distinct. Because of the automatic nature of forfeiture, the punitive nature of the consequence, and the fact that only criminal behavior triggers forfeiture, the application of PEPFA is, like deportation, intimately connected to the criminal process. Therefore, counsel was obliged to warn his client of the loss of pension as a consequence to pleading guilty.
¶ 21 Even if we were to apply the direct/collateral analysis the result would be the same.
Commonwealth v. Wall,
¶ 22 The foregoing discussion shows Abraham has met the first two prongs of his ineffective assistance of counsel claim.
See Pierce.
The third prong requires Abraham to demonstrate prejudice. In terms of a guilty plea, this means he must show that it was reasonably probable that, but for the errors of counsel, he would not have pled guilty and would have gone to trial.
Commonwealth v. Hickman,
¶ 23 Abraham submitted a signed and notarized declaratiоn with his memorandum of law in support of his PCRA petition, that if counsel had informed him of the pension forfeiture, he would have either sought to plead guilty to any other charge but indecent assault, which was the only charge that triggered forfeiture, or if he could not fashion a plea agreement, he would have gone to trial. See Declaration, 3/28/09, at ¶¶ 17-19.
¶ 24 Because the petition was dismissed without a hearing, there is no record on this issue. While we see nothing inherently improbable in the claim, we are not a fact-finding court and so we cannot rule in the first instance on the reasonаble probability of Abraham going to trial but for counsel’s error. Therefore, we are compelled to remand this matter for hearing to determine what prejudice Abraham suffered.
¶ 25 Order reversed. This matter is remanded for hearing in accordance with this decision. The heаring shall take place within 60 days of the return of the official record. Jurisdiction relinquished.
¶ 26 Judge BOWES concurs in the result.
Notes
. Public Employee Pension Forfeiture Act (PEPFA), Act of July 8, 1978, P.L. 752, No. 140, § 3.
. The
Smith v. Doe
test replaced the
Art-way/Verniero
test mentioned by appellant.
Artway v. Attorney General,
. Whether the act represented a collateral or direct consequence was not at issue in Mazzo. Justice Zappala's comment is not binding, but is instructive and we believe his view is accurate.
. Factor seven examines whether the measure is excessive in relation to the alternative purpose assigned. Because there is no alternative purpose assigned, whether the measure is excessive is not directly applicable. However, we note in this instance the record suggests Abraham lost approximately $1,500 per month for the rest of his life. See Declaration, 3/18/09, at ¶ 13. The criminal behavior triggering the pension forfeiture is classified as a second degree misdemeanor punishable by no more than 2 years’ incarceration and a $5,000 fine. 18 Pa.C.S. §§ 1104(2), 1101(5), respectively. In this case, the loss of four months' pension exceeds the maximum fine. While other pension losses in other cases may not be anywhere near this amount, we note in
Commonwealth
v.
Wall,
