Opinion by
On February 6, 3925, an application was filed by Robert G. Hickox before the Corporation Commission of Oklahoma for permission to operate a bus line for transportation of passengers for hire between Chickasha and Waurika in the state of Oklahoma, passing through and stopping at certain stations along the route and designating the time of departures and arrivals at the termini, and the charge per mile therefor. Protest was duly filed by the *191 Ohichgo, Ilock Island & Pacific Hailway Company, showing that it operated its trains upon regular schedules between and through said termini and intervening stations, in all respects sufficient for the transportation of passengers, and that its facilities are adequate fioi' such purpose. On May 20, 1925, there was filed with the Commission articles of agreement in which it is shown that E. A. Sharpe is a partner of petitioner in the operation of the proposed bus line, and he was made a party to the proceeding. A hearing was had on March 3. 1925, and. among other things, the Commission found:
“That public convenience and necessity are shown by the evidence in suppcrt of the application herein to justify and require the issuance of a certificate of public convenience and necessity to the said Robert G. Hickox and E. A. Sharpe * * *”
—and ordered that a certificate of public convenience and necessity issue to applicants, from which protestant has appealed; and it assigns as error that the order is not supported by sufficient or competent evidence; is contrary to the evidence; is unjust, unreasonable, and arbitrary; is contrary to law and violative of the rights of protestant un-tier the state and federal Constitutions.
The only witnesses were petitioner, Hic-kox. and a Mr. Stewart, passenger agent for protestant. The former introduced the time of departures and arrivals of the bus at the termini, but none for its intermediate points along the proposed route. He testified that the proposed route was parallel with -and served by the protestant with railway trains —four each way, every day; that he had operated, during the months of January and February. 1925, a bus line between Comanche and Waurika. hauling 476 passengers during the former, and 555 during the latter month; that his loss on such operation was $250 per month, and that this application is foí-an extension of the line, north to Chickasha; that about 40 per cent, of his present business is from towns to towns; and further testified:
“Q . You think this business would be self-supporting if permit were given it? A. Yes, sir. * *" *
“Q. You still think it is e. necessity to ‘have other transportation in there? A. Yes, sir; I believe I will wipe out the loss with it.*’
Protestant introduced its time card showing the schedule of four passenger trains each day, each way, serving the towns and territory affected by the proposed bus line, and that all trains stop at all the towns, except south-bound No. 17 and north-bound Nos. 18 and 32 do not top at Ninnekali unless to “pick up or let off passengers destined to and from distant' points, ” and the time of these trains at such point is 1:47 a. m., for No. 17; 2:12 a.' m., for No. 18; and 2 :12 p. m., and 5:41 p. m., for No. 32. The table shows this town is served, south-bound at 7:50 a. m„ and 8:44 a. m., north-bound at 1:00 p. m., and 2:12 p. m. All trains stop at Addington except No. 32 north-bound, arriving at 4:02 p. m., which stops as indicated above for Nos. 17, 18, and 32, but is served at 12:29 p. m., 6:35 a. m., and 12:3? a. m. The proposed operation of the bus shows that Addington could not be served by it except a few minutes after 7:30 a. m., and 1:00 p. m., and, being operated in daytime only, could not serve Ninnekah at 1:47 a. m., or 2:12 a. m., to be of convenience and necessity to the traveling public.
This proceeding was had under chapter 113. Session Laws 1923, the material part of which is:
“It is hereby declared unlawful for any motor carrier to operate or furnish service within this .state without first having obtained from the Corporation Commission a certificate declaring that public convenience and necessity require such operation. The Corporation Commission shall have power, and it shall be their duty, after public hearing, to issue said certificate as prayed for, or to refuse to issue the same. * * *”
The orders of the Corporation Commission must be reasonable arid lawful, based upon .findings of fact supported by competent evidence, such findings being conclusive on this court unless manifestly against the evidence, and the question whether they meet the requirements is subject to review on appeal. Ex parte Tindall;
“Public” is the opposite of “private,” and pertains to the people of a nation, state, or community at large, the general body, indefinitely, or as a whole or entirety. In determining whether public convenience and necessity require the operation of a motor carrier, we must consider the question in the light of the demands of the people of the community at large, or, as a whole or entirety, in the territory affected by the proposed carrier.
In the statute requiring the issuance of a certificate of public convenience and necessity as a. prerequisite to the operation of a motor carrier, the word “necessity” is not used -in the sense of being essential or absolutely indispensable, but in the sense that the motor vehicle service would be such an improvement of the existing mode of trans
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portation as to justify or warrant tile expense of making the improvement. It should be' made to appear that the inconvenience of the public occasioned by the lack of motor carrier transportation is so great as to •amount to a necessity. Wabash, C. & W. Ry. Co. v. Commerce Commission (Ill.)
To warrant the licensing of additional public utility for transportation purposes, it must appear that the present serving facilities are inadequate and inconvenient to the traveling public, and that the proposed facilities will eliminate such inadequacy and inconvenience. West Sub. T. Co. v. C. & W. T. Ry. Co. (Ill.)
It is held in Choate et al. v. Ill. Commerce Commission (Ill.)
“That a proposed bus line serving the same territory as an established interurban line may accommodate a few. individuals does not justify a certificate permitting it to operate; the convenience and the necessity which the law requires being the convenience and necessity of the public, as distinguished from that of an individual, or any number of individuals.”
In West Suburban Transp. Co. v. Chicago & W. T. Ry. Co. (Ill.)
“To authorize the Commerce Commission to grant appellant a certificate of conven-ienc'e and necessity, and authority to operate its lines to serve the same public already serv'ed by an existing utility, it was required that it be shown the existing utility was not rendering adequate and convenient service, and that the .operation of the bus line would eliminate such inadequacy and inconvenience. In determining that question the primary consideration is the convenience and necessity of the public. Pub. Utilities Co. v. Cleveland, Cincinnati, Chicago & St. Louis Railway Co.,288 Ill. 502 ,123 N. E. 547 . Whether the public convenience and necessity require the establishment of a new transportation. facility is not determined by the number of individuals who may ask for it. The public must be concerned, as distinguished from any number of individuals. Pub. Utilities Co. v. Toledo, St. Louis & Western Railroad Co.,286 Ill. 582 ,122 N. E. 158 .”
Petitioner and protestant cit'e the case of Ex parte Tindall,
“The Corporation Commission is not permitted to exercise any of the powers vested in it by the act, unless, as a fact, the public convenience and necessities require the exercise of such power. The question of the public convenience and necessities thereby become th'e decisive question of fact, to he determined from the evidence, and if the Corporation Commission be unreasonable in its finding at to such fact, * * * -then the party aggrieved * * * has a right of airp'eal to this court for a judicial inquiry and review as to the sufficiency of the evidenefe and the reasonableness of the order. * * *
“The public has a voice in the enforcement of this act and the right to speak whenever its interests are not subserved. * * * and has a voice as to whether its necessities and convenience require that on'e, two. or three shall be licensed to render the required service, or that none is required. *193 * * * It is not that the petitioner or any other private concern has a vested right, * * * but that the public, from the standpoint of its convenience and necessities * * * and a voice as to how much of such service it needs,” etc.,
The public has not spoken on the question of its convenience and necessity in this case, neither has applicant shown that the public demands the installation of this additional service from station to station, already served by protestan!, nor has he shown that the service of protestant is inadequate and inconvenient, or that the proposed service by his bus line would eliminate public inadequacy and inconvenience, if such existed; there is no competent evidence to support the order directing the issuance of a certificate of public convenience and necessity.
The order of the Corporation Commission is reversed, and the cause remanded, with directions to disallow applicant's petition.
By the Court: It is so ordered.